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Health care group blasts industry

Posted: Monday, July 21, 2008 1:08 PM by Domenico Montanaro

From NBC’s Alex Wall
Members of Health Care for America Now criticized the health insurance industry’s impending launch of “Campaign for an American Solution” tomorrow in Columbus, Ohio, and contrasted it with their own campaign launch two weeks ago, in a conference call this morning.

The group’s President Richard Kirsch said in a conference call that America’s Health Insurance Plans is trying to fight healthcare reform by launching a “listening tour” in Columbus that identifies the “few customers that are satisfied with their health insurance.”

Kirsch called his group’s campaign a “coalition that represents literally millions of Americans who have come together for quality affordable health care for all”, and cited the groups’ 52 launch sites across the country to illustrate HCAN’s national scale.

On Ohio’s healthcare woes: Kirsch went on to illustrate the discrepancies between increases in wages and health care costs for Ohioans. According to Kirsch, family health insurance premiums for Ohio’s workers rose 8.4 times more quickly than workers’ paychecks between 2000 and 2006. He then argued that, “[we] can’t count on the health insurance companies to fix this mess”, citing that between 2003 and 2007, Community Health Insurance’s (the Ohio subsidiary of WellPoint) profits more than doubled.

Kirsch criticized the Ohio State Legislature for “not doing much to protect Ohioans’ healthcare.”  According to Kirsch, the health insurance industry is “free to reject who they want” and charges unfairly based on risk. “If you’re older you get charged more,” Kirsch said. “If you’re a woman you get charged more.”

Brian Rothenberg, the Executive Director of Progress Ohio, railed against the lack of progress in healthcare reform despite the fact that “it’s been 16 years since the healthcare debate first came on the national scene.” He said that many people are “one bad boss, one difficult decision at work away from being unemployed and having no health insurance.”

Rothenberg went on to criticize the health insurance industry for being hypocritical when it comes to government intervention in healthcare.

“Just like in the case of big oil, what [health insurance companies] are trying to do is only fix [the problem] in pieces,” Rothenberg said.  “They would take the greater costs and put them on the government, the same government that they want to stay out of [the industry].”

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This is not a problem that should be fixed piecemeal or on a state by state basis.  This country is in need of a universal healthcre system.  One set of rules for all.
Update for the Last Post:

Friday of last week, congressional REPUBLICANS killed a bill that would have allowed the oil companies to begin drilling the 68 million+ acres already leased to them.

John McCain is on record saying the energy crisis is 30 years in the making and that what's needed is a long-term solution.  Remember when he linked Obama to Carter? Yet he blames Obama.

McCain is currently proposing nearly $4 billion in tax breaks for the oil companies and Washington gimmicks that he admits will only provide ‘psychological relief’ to consumers.  Inspired solution.

Who is to blame for not wanting to drill off-shore?

More inconvenient truths missed by the McCain campaign.
McCain wouldn't even qualify for McCain's health care proposal.  It's a good thing that McCain has government sponsored health care or Cindy would have had to finance his cancer surgeries out of pocket.

The rest of us 'whiners' have to deal with fighting the Insurance companies in order to have our bills paid.  

Obama 08
Well, well, well . . .

I wonder why the health insurance industry is mobilizing now if they believe that John McCain is going to win?

Add another group to the long list of people anticipating an Obama presidency.

Senator Obama has already changed the debate in so many areas from "if" to "when" - it has truly been an amazing and historic campaign.
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Just a friendly nudge to the media to please elaborate on what the "surge" really means and what is the true source of its success - converting "insurgents" into our allies instead of enemies. Additional troops were part of the solution, but additional DIPLOMACY made the most difference.


http://vetsforobama.org/2008/07/14/marketing-a-myth-how-john-mccain-actually-got-the-surge-wrong/
Noting like a pack of Wolves holding a campaign to determine how they can improve the lives of Farmer Sam's chickens.
In Ohio if two people go to a hospital for the same illness heres what happens. One has the best health coverage from GM, the other has poor coverage he pays for himself. The first person may be admitted for surgery and a five day stay. The second person, with the same problem, gets out patient treatment and released hours later.
I have heard so many people with good healthcare from their employers say they are against a national healthcare plan, because it would be poor service. The very day they loose their job to overseas, they are all for national healthcare. What hypocrites and selfish people they are. It has to change!
THIS IS JUST RIDICULOUS BUT THEY HAVE BEEN GETTING AWAY WITH IT IN THE PAST VIA LOBBYISTS REPRESENTATION IN CONGRESS.

AMERICANS ARE NOT SATISFIED AND WILL STAND TALL AND SAY SO WHICH WILL UNREVEL THEIR STRATEGY.

WE WANT UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE FOR ALL AMERICANS AND THE INSURANCE INDUSTRY IS CERTAINLY NOT GOING TO GET BEHIND THIS STRATEGY UNLESS WE HAVE LEGISLATION TO SAY IT'S REQUIRED.

WITH SO MANY AMERICANS HURTING WITH HIGH PREMIUMS, LOSS OF LIFE DUE TO POLICY DECISIONS OR THE LACK THERE OF, LIMITED TO NO INSURANCE, GM CANCELLING HEALTH INSURANCE FOR THOSE OVER AGE 65,

THIS GROUP HAS NOT POSSIBILITY OF FOOLING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WITH THEIR RHETORIC.

GREAT ARTICLE FINALLY WE ADDRESS SOMETHING BESIDES POLITICS AND THE REAL NEEDS OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.  PLEASE DO MORE  ARTICLES ON WHAT THE ISSUES NOT FROM A CANDIDATES PROSPECTIVE.  THIS IS THE TYPE OF ISSUE THAT WE WOULD EXPECT FROM THE MEDIA AND THAT WILL ENGAGE US.
Please Please!  Something needs to change!  It's way past ridiculous!!  The health care industry has had ample time to fix everything, but they haven't.  It just keep getting worse and worse.  At this point I wouldn't believe ANYTHING that came out of their mouths.
I have to agree to a comment i once saw that reads  " republican economy = privatise profit and socialize the lost " how fitting that it applies to everything this administration has done economicaly  
Humerous (we need it)

Insurance Company Rules: The Cure For Everything But Healthcare

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/19/insurance-company-rules-t_n_113835.html
knock yourself out health care industry, change is just around the corner, and you will not have the influence that you had with the repukes in charge. Your change will be painful I am sure and deservedly so. Too bad you couldn't see this coming and changed your ways.
Healthcare for profit!! What do you expect??
I'll keep it simple for the poorly educated and easily conned on the right...the only ones who think that todays healthcare system is peachy keen are those who aren't paying for it but think they are...

If you are a 50-55 male with dependents decent insurance runs 1300-1500 a month...if you ain't paying this you aren't paying for your own insurance...you are a corporate or government welfare queen
Here's what national health care looks like:  in the United Kingdom, 750,000 people are on waiting lists for 'elective' surgery, (heart bypass).  The government has started a campaign to convince people with type two diabetes that they do not need to test their blood sugar daily-"it just causes anxiety"-because the government sees testing supplies as an unneccessary expense.  People are twelve times more likely to die of cancer, because the treatments we take for granted are not as readily available.  Is our treatment expensive? Yes!  If the government got out of the business of telling insurance companies what to cover, insurance would be more affordable in many states.  Here is NJ, health insurance is mandated to cover infertility treatments, birth control, viagra, etc.  If you don't need that coverage, too bad, you must pay for it.  As usual, when the government gets involved, we all pay, and get back less in return.  Keep the government out of healthcare.
knock yourself out health care industry, change is just around the corner
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justthinkinoutloud:  And, won't it be just peachy for you to pay for yours and everybody else's through increased taxes if Obama is elected and it becomes reality?  Now, somebody would respond here and say "but, Obama won't raise taxes on middle income."  BS. He's proposed $33 trillion in new spending. HOW WILL OBAMA MAKE US PAY FOR IT???????/
I come from the position that single-payer is the way to go and that it should be sold to companies as a way of competing abroad.

However, understand that affordable does not mean unlimited health care.  In the UK there are boards that decide which drugs the NHS can prescribe, with new drugs not being available until they cost less and have been proven.  There are waiting lists for non-emergency surgery (hips, knees) and for consults with specialists.  Doctors make life and death decisions in that they decide whether to treat patients based on quality of life factors.  This means the doctors decide whether to pull the plug not the family.  Mental heath is treated very poorly.  However, there are plentiful family planning clinics (although you are not seen by a doctor but usually a specialized nurse) which do offer free contraceptives for both men and women (Viagra is not offered).  Also, babies are usually delivered by a midwife, doctors are only present if there are difficulties.  Health care is not uniform across the country with waiting lists for procedures longer in some regions.  Dental is not covered except for extractions.

In other words you have to accept some form of rationing which has to be decided by someone (in the UK by the government and then by the physician).

If such a change is made then a plan covering the dislocation would have to be made as thousands of employees of insurance companies, office accountants in doctors offices and other clerical staff are let go.  Also in the UK doctor training is paid for by the government so they are obligated to work in the NHS, over here a method of paying off training costs would have to be created.

BTW Did BO ever say how he would enforce his health plan mandates?
Where are the groups' websites?  Will that be revealed tomorrow?  Was there anything is policy ideas or changes that this group mentioned?  What kind of changes do they advocate?  Are they endorsing a candidate?  McCain?  Obama?  Barr?  Nader?
I feel our health care system is in need of any/all the help it can get. We are a family of 4(2 children,2 adults)We own our own small business and must purchase our own healthcare. We pay $1,600.00 a month...wow! Let anyone tell me," how can families continue to purchase good health care coverage at $1,600.00 a month and still think the system does not need help?"
Anyone? In todays world struggle to keep our homes afloat, our vehicals on the road, groceries in the fridge and topping it all off, we pray we can pay our healthcare premium monthly, because if one of us gets hurt or inflicted with something we'd surely be done without it. Yes...
He's proposed $33 trillion in new spending.
NObama (Sent Monday, July 21, 2008 2:06 PM)
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Please break that out in new taxes proposed.

I've never ever seen a number like that associated with an Obama tax proposal.


Obama will give US the chance to join universal health care.

Thanks God Obama has true Christian values and thinks about helping people rather than living of them.

McCAIN and the republicans do not care for the people. They care only for themselves.
nobama in a compassionate republican response proclaims /  And, won't it be just peachy for you to pay for yours and everybody else's through increased taxes if Obama is elected and it becomes reality?  Now, somebody would respond here and say "but, Obama won't raise taxes on middle income."  BS. He's proposed $33 trillion in new spending. HOW WILL OBAMA MAKE US PAY FOR IT???????/

 it can be done if the tax loopholes are removed for the wealthy champ, there will even be a surplus if everyone (including the wealthy) pays their fair share, the "have not's" in this country subsidizing the "have's" needs to stop


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