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McCain: A gaffe machine?

Posted: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 9:19 AM by Domenico Montanaro

Politico writes: “Senator John McCain (R-Ariz.) said ‘Iraq’ when he apparently meant ‘Afghanistan’ on Monday, adding to a string of mixed-up word choices that is giving ammunition to the opposition. Just in the past three weeks, McCain has also mistaken ‘Somalia’ for ‘Sudan,’ and even football’s Green Bay Packers for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Ironically, the errors have been concentrated in what should be his area of expertise -- foreign affairs.”

VIDEO: Is John McCain too old to be president? Guest host David Shuster gets the latest reaction from GOP strategist Kevin Madden, Democratic analyst Tonya Acker and MSNBC analyst Carl Crawford.

”McCain will turn 72 the day after Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) accepts his party’s nomination for president, calling new attention to the sensitive issue of McCain’s advanced age, three days before the start of his own convention. The McCain campaign says Obama has had plenty of flubs of his own, including a reference to "57 states" and a string of misstated place names during the primaries that Republicans gleefully sent around as YouTubes. But McCain's mistakes raise a serious, if uncomfortable question: Are the gaffes the result of his age? And what could that mean in the Oval Office?” 

The New York Times fact-checks latest TV ad, which blames Obama for high gas prices. “[E]ven before the recent spike, oil prices had been rising for a decade, the result of a variety of political and economic factors in places as far afield as China, India, Venezuela and Nigeria. So it is difficult to understand how Mr. Obama, a first-term senator, can be held responsible for that phenomenon. Aside from correctly stating current gasoline prices, [the ad] is misleading on nearly every substantive point. But it is shrewdly conceived and may prove to be effective with undecided voters upset about having to pay as much as $100 to fill their gas tanks, yet uncertain as to the causes of the squeeze on their budgets.” 

The Washington Post also runs a fact-check. McCain “may try in this ad to blame rising gas prices on Barack Obama, but after 7 1/2 years of the Bush administration, that's a stretch.” More: “It's a bit audacious for McCain to charge that "some in Washington" still oppose offshore oil drilling, since that was his position, most notably in his 2000 presidential campaign, until he reversed himself last month.” 

“The New York Times yesterday defended its decision not to publish an op-ed article as submitted by Republican John McCain about the Iraq war on grounds it customarily reviews such pieces with the author… In an e-mail to the campaign Friday, David Shipley, an op-ed editor at the newspaper, said he could not accept the piece in its current form, but would look at another version… ‘It is standard procedure on our op-ed page, and that of other newspapers, to go back and forth with an author on his or her submission. We look forward to publishing Senator McCain's views in our paper just as we have in the past." McCain spokesman Tucker Bounds said the campaign will not submit a revised op-ed.”

The New York Post runs the column. 
 
“Conservative Christian leader James Dobson said in a radio broadcast yesterday that he could reverse his position and endorse John McCain despite serious misgivings. ‘There's nothing dishonorable in a person rethinking his or her positions, especially in a constantly changing political context,’ Dobson said in a statement. Barack Obama's ‘radical positions on life, marriage, and national security force me to reevaluate the candidacy of our only other choice, John McCain.’

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>> Name one thing Obama has ever done to lower gas prices. Name one thing that Obama has said he'll do to lower gas prices. Some nerve indeed. <<

Ok, I'll toss you a response.  Name one thing McCain has done while Obama has been a Senator to try to lower gas prices...other than flop around like a dying fish, thrashing to and fro on his policies and in response to constituents pissing and moaning.

Face it folks:  McCain is a man that is going to continue to send your children off to some hellhole to fight an enemy that is never going to quit.  He'll keep calling and calling for people, and when the well finally runs dry (as we've seen that it is starting to), his crazy old self will not bat an eye to reinstate the draft to keep them coming.  

Sure, a gas tax holiday will lower prices, but add another burden onto an already bloated deficit and tax money away from programs that keep guide dogs for the blind fed and underprivileged children able to get hot meals and a bus ride to school.  Also, since when has offshore drilling been something that is going to lower prices in the long-term?  Those of you who find it compelling should really think long and hard about having rigs off of the shore where you take your kids to the beach, and think about how, while you may then be able to pay a whopping $2.50 a gallon, if it will even last until you pass from this Earth, or if the reservoirs of oil will run dry.  Then what?  You'll be back to complaining about how gas prices are insane, and how now we need to bulldoze neighborhoods to prospect for oil where they decided to build houses.

I'll admit, Obama has made some pretty gaffy comments, and that he hasn't always been a 100% intelligible person throughout his campaign...but at least he has a clear message about wanting to help people get out of the rut that they're in and get to a place where they can help themselves, thereby helping others.  Better than a senile old man who will blame everyone for everything, and not take a moment to try and fix it for the people that he will be representing.

Food for thought.
First of all, almost all news publications, even college newspapers, review and revise op-eds before going to print. Woe unto any editor who lets something really problematic slip past! Also, on the question of presidential terms - if a VP is serving when a President becomes unable to complete his duties, and is elevated to the job of President, that person could serve as POTUS for up two years, and then run for two elected terms. The term limits as defined in Amendment 22, Article 1: "1. No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once." So, Obama is correct to state 8-10 years as the potential term of office for President.
Oh! My! Gosh! MCGAFFE is gonna kill me!!!
Somebody get this guy out of my sight! Out of my sight!
Are “Gaffe” Prices Too High?

Politicians, even the most skillful of them, will make ‘gaffes’.  These are minor errors in factual, grammatical or elocutionary expression.  Fair or not, some have changed history.  When Ford took away half of Europe in one single gaffe, it just might have doomed his close comeback to failure.  Admiral Stockdale’s debate musings (“Who am I?  Why am I here?”), left Perot without a place in the race.  (In Stockdale’s case, it was particularly unfair.  He is one of the great heroes in our history and actually was making a point but was cut off and never allowed to finish.  His reputation will never recover from that one gaffe for which he bears absolutely no responsibility.)  Who can hear the name Dan Quayle and not remember the word ‘potato’ (did I spell that right)?  And we all remember Al Gore not being able to identify a bust of Washington.  (You don’t remember that?  Oh, that’s right, that gaffe wasn’t repeated over and over for two months!)

Yes, one small error can change history.  That’s why all campaigns are always searching for such gaffes, hoping they might be the ‘silver bullet’ that wins it all.  This campaign is no different.  Lately, the Obama talking points have included a couple of gaffes by McCain:  he’s called Slovakia and the Czech Republic by its old united name a couple of times (“Czechoslovakia”) and he mixed up Shi’ite and Sunni a couple of months ago.  All right, tell you what.  I’ll take those two gaffes in exchange for the Sixty United States and some dead people in the audience at Arlington and we’ll call it even, OK?

On second thought, I don’t think there’s an even exchange rate between Obama gaffes and McCain gaffes.  Why do I say that?  Think about it.  For decades, McCain has had a virtual open-door policy in a way that’s unprecedented.  He’s done hundreds upon hundreds of unscripted town halls and opened himself to hours of free questioning by reporters on his bus.  Over and over, he has let reporters ask questions until they can’t think of anymore or their voices are raw.  What about Obama?  All the press corps agrees:  his has been one of the most closed campaigns in terms of access in history.  (It’s ironic that the two most polar opposites should be running in the same year.)  “C'mon, guys, I just answered, like, eight questions.”  “Can’t I just eat my waffles?”  This present trip to Iraq has been far more scripted than a Broadway play.

As a matter of percentages, even if the number of gaffes were totally even, McCain wins this comparison.  It would be like saying, ‘Babe Ruth’s lifetime batting average is .342; this rookie is 35 for 100 this year; therefore, this rookie is better than Babe Ruth:  reductio ad absurdum.  All that being said, I think Obama would win the most gaffes crown handily on quantity alone this cycle.  But is anybody going to waste the time sitting down and counting?  Even if you did, how does one evaluate the severity of each gaffe and what they mean as an aggregate?  It seems like a pretty petty procedure.

However, when you put Obama’s gaffes together with the evidence for a lack of core principles (being on both sides of issues, never admitting a substantive mistake, never saying “I am sorry” or “I was wrong”, claiming total continuity at all times, etc.), the gaffes seem to be part of a pattern.  One gaffe we remember was when he said his uncle helped liberate Auschwitz in Germany, when it turned out that Auschwitz was in Poland controlled by the Soviets, that his uncle was really a great-uncle, that he was in the Navy not the Army.  (He must have sailed through Soviet lines to do this.)  This kind of gaffe is not a simple ‘mistake’.  It reveals a pattern of stretching the truth.  McCain’s gaffes that I’ve seen seem to be simply ‘mistakes’.  We all do that, but we don’t all have a pattern exaggerating like Obama’s gaffe illustrates.  I think Obama’s supporters have to cry UNCLE on this point; or is it GREAT-UNCLE?

So, gaffes in themselves are usually not much in themselves but they, tragically, unfairly at times, can cost some people everything.  That notwithstanding, the kind of character revealed by Obama’s gaffes within the general pattern of his presentation shows us that he is a political product we just shouldn’t buy.  In terms of gaffes, the price is too high….
Which of the 57 states did McCain make this gaffe?
On his bus yesterday McCain was blasting a do-nothing congress for most of our current problems.The reporter should have reminded him that he is part of this do-nothing congress!
The gaffe in question was just an honest mistake, and a fortunate one for McCain.

It kept the media from focusing on the more odd thing he said a couple lines earlier. He said he couldn't explain his thoughts on the Afghan security situation because he didn't have the vocabulary.

Hmmm. He's a Navy guy riding his military experience in this campaign. What did he mean he didn't have the vocabulary?

We'll never know, because the media fixated on the shiny, surface gaffe.
Mark.....a political ad should hold at least some modicom of truth.  This ad is absolutely baseless, disengenious and panders to the lowest common denominator.  The ad is a complete insult to the intelligence of the American people.  Lastly, if you're sad to be a Democrat then you're not really a Democrat.
At least McCain can blame it on a senior moment..what does Obama say when he claims he has campaigned in all 57 states? Stupidity?
John McCain is reverting to the tactics that he used
against Bush in the 2000 primaries. His Handlers are trying everything they can to prop him up, but he still screws everything up. When the New York times didn't accept his op-ed piece the way he handed it to them, it's because you can't hand in an essay that you didn't write. He doesn't have a clue what's going on except that he was a prisoner of war and now we owe it to him to make him President.
McCain has dementia and is a liar. What a great combo!
Obama said he expects to be dealing with the world leaders like those he is currently talking to (before becoming president and that ex-presidents still routinly deal with), for the next 8-10 years and some moron claims he does not know a two-term president lasts 8 years.

Which is the fool?

Also, a slip of tongue is not the same as a gaffe. A gafee is typically repeated more than one time - meaning the gaffer did not kow better. Slips can happen when you are tired or old. The czekoslovakia thing was repeated three different times.
Barack Obama decided early on NOT to make John McCain's age an issue in this race.

Smart decision: John doesn't need any help - he can do it himself!
I really see this election as being a bid by the older generation to hold to power or to keep a younger generation from attaining it. I respect right of the McCain supporters to express their opinions but just as an Obama supporter who has  some reservations about his experience which I am prepared to admit, so should McCain's Supporters have concerns about their candidate’s age. I think it comes down to ego, and it is obvious that senator Obama has enough control of his ego to surround himself with those with more experience in many areas, foreign policy not withstanding, and who possess the courage to object to his line of thinking. Conservatives have not shown the slightest predilection of tolerance of an opinion that might be outside their ideology, and when has any relationship of such nature ever been healthy to either party involved?
these gaffs are really funny, icant see why everyone gets all excited about a gaff when we have dozens of real issues to deal with. the candidates have real differences on issues. this is where we need to go. no name calling, disrespectful of all involved. we
should think about john's surge.  there would still be blood being shed dailey in iraq if we werent paying
the sunni not to fight us.  if al sadar hadnt taken his malitia off the streets.  the surge is really moot. now we should get our troops out of iraq as they
want us to.  and take our 12 billion dollars a month with us.  they have about 700 billion in the bank right now.  dont worry about iraq,  look how well india has done after thier civil war. they will have a civil war ( none of our business). kudos to obama for his common sense and good judgment. i am so tired of knowing more than the president of the united states.  i remember sitting on the couch hollering at those jerks talking about invading iraq, especially when we had not found bin laden or done anything to make our country safer. mccain is a dangerous man and
will hopefully be rejected by the citizens of this great country.    female, white, 62 years old and very
hopeful for the future of this country.  this will take place without help from the msm.  i have never seen such disregard for the truth.
marty

obama/biden
Clyde Moseberry said: "At least McCain knows there are 50 states, that a two-term president serves 8 years, that the Surge in Iraq worked, and we need to drill to find more fuel. Obama thinks there are 57 states, two term presidents serve 8-10 years, he wouldn't know a surge from a purge, or a drill from any of the pills he's taken."

Wow, I am blown away by the insight!  In any college freshman debate class, one of the first things taught to students is the classic switch and bait.  If you have a disagreement with your opponent, try to change the subject and attack on specious grounds.  Because Sen. McSame has difficulty remembering which country is which is not mentioned in the above.  Instead, the writer attempts to show how strong McSame's memory is on several "key" (read "talking points") issues, hoping the reader does not look closely at the text of the article and then uses distraction and half-truths to persuade.  McSame's contention that the surge worked is only partly correct.  The Sunni awakening, the Sadr ceasefire, and other events contributed to the success in decreasing violence, but those are not mentioned here.  Neither is the fact that further drilling in sensitive environments will not decrease the price of gas.  McSame has supported selling the oil on the world markets, not keeping it at home and has supported deregulation of speculation, as evidenced by his former campaign manager, Phil Gramm's support of the Enron loophole.  When Sen. Obama mentioned 8-10 years he was speaking about his involvement with foreign governments, including this remaining year and the end of his term.  The writer goes on to spout right wing radio talking points to slam Sen. Obama.  The problem with these arguments?  They are transparent and convince no one.
Name one thing Obama has ever done to lower gas prices. Name one thing that Obama has said he'll do to lower gas prices. Some nerve indeed.
Charlie Henderson (Sent Tuesday, July 22, 2008 9:55 AM)
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- Get rid of the Enron loop hole and speculators. Based on increased demand along (China, India), the price of oil is still greater than it should be. This will have an effect NOW! See demand and economic charts here: http://kenny.netvios.com/Proposal_Towards_US_Energy_Independence.htm


- Pursue alternatives that will eliminate our demand for oil and improve teh environment.

- Do not support proposals that give away revenues that support our highways to the oil company in the name of gas tax rebate for summer (~$30). Rather give the money directly to us in tax rebates

- Do not support proposals that expand the stock of oil companies by giving them offshore land (when they have over 800K acres already approved and undeveloped), gvigin them more land spikes their stocks but does nothing for oil supply because they will not get to it for four years and when they do actual production will be realized in about 7 years WHEN WE SHOULD HAVE ALREADY SLOWLY TRANSITIONED FROM OIL! The total potential supply in about 12 years is still less than 1% of current world demand).

BTW Proposing oil-company firendly solutions is worse than nothing. That's what got us here with an oil company headed administration for the past 8 years (both P and VP are oil men - what a coincidence!)
Even though John McCain was a POW 40 years ago and even though he's been in Washington in the Congress for the past 87 years doesn't mean he is some sort oof foreign policy guru.  I just don't understand how the Washington press corps just buys wholesale into his self-proclaimed status as a foreign policy genius - where's the evidence?
You can be president up to ten years.  See Amendment 22 of the Constitution.  Suppose you're Vice-President, there are 23 months (a little less than two years) left in the term, and the President dies.  You then become President, and serve as President for 23 months.

After serving 23 months as President, you can be elected President twice (8 more years of being President), because you have not served more than 2 years to a term to which you were not elected.
Clyde Moseberry: May I suggest that you stop listening to right-wing radio long enought to consider basing your voting decision on issues of substance, not on who said Czechoslovakia, or 57 states, etc, etc, etc? For decades, you republicans have fooled the American voter into believing that their party cares for average Americans, when nothing could be further from the truth. But your party's red-meat issues have little worth anymore, to the point where nobody really gives a damn who James Dobson will support for president. Your party has lied and misled, while bleeding the decency, integrity, and treasure of this country dry. I'd rather believe in someone who may misspeak than in someone who believes that the last 8 years, a disgrace by any thinking American's standards, deserve an encore.
Name one thing Obama has ever done to lower gas prices. Name one thing that Obama has said he'll do to lower gas prices. Some nerve indeed.
Charlie Henderson

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Well, using "The Google", I was able to find the cleverly hidden website BarackObama.com.  There I found the following:

Reduce Carbon Emissions 80 Percent by 2050
Invest in a Clean Energy Future
Support Next Generation Biofuels
Set America on Path to Oil Independence
Improve Energy Efficiency 50 Percent by 2030
Restore U.S. Leadership on Climate Change

 Each bulleet had plans for accomplishing them.  It did take me about two minutes, so I can see how you may have had a hard time.
Why don't we quit calling them gaffes and point out what it really is...ignorance, stupidity and incompetence. Just like his buddy bush.
Glad you report on these foregin policy gaffes.

McCain has been getting a free ride from the media on his foreign policy gaffes -- media are so busy instead reporting on voters' perceptions that he has better foreign policy bona fides rather than reporting the straight events/facts -- blunder after blunder.

Who really cares whether they are age-related or not?

A blunder is a blunder.

And a person who repeatedly errs, blunders, gaffes -- is a blunderer


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