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Obama's press conference in Jordan

Posted: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 2:00 PM by Mark Murray
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From NBC/NJ's Athena Jones and NBC's Abby Livingston
AMMAN, Jordan -- In his first appearance before the traveling press corps since embarking on his overseas trip, Obama said the message he had received in Iraq was that Iraqis were ready to begin to do more to stand up for themselves, and that there was a growing agreement that more troops and aid were needed for Afghanistan.

“I believe that the best way to support Iraqi sovereignty and to encourage the Iraqis to stand up is through the responsible redeployment of our combat brigades,” he said. “I welcome the growing consensus in the United States and Iraq for a timeline. My view, based on the advice of military experts, is that we can redeploy safely in 16 months so that our combat brigades are out of Iraq in 2010.”

The senator, who declined to criticize McCain or to give him points for his “judgment” with regard to supporting the surge, said he had a “terrific” conversation with Gen. David Petraeus and Ambassador Ryan Crocker and repeated his commitment to withdrawing troops from Iraq carefully.

He reiterated what he said in a prior interview that his role as a candidate for commander-in-chief was to take in all factors -- beyond Iraq -- when dealing with matters of national security. But he also said that he understood that Petraeus was not in favor of a timeline, in part because the general wants the highest level of flexibility to achieve his mission.

And he stressed that he had strong faith in his own foreign policy credentials. "I don't have doubts about my ability to apply sound judgment to the major national security problems that we face. These are difficult questions and, you know, I don't think that anybody believes they have the perfect formula for solving some of these very difficult foreign policy problems,” he said as a way of amending an earlier statement he had made to the effect that he had “never” had doubts about his foreign policy experience. “But I feel very confident in my world view and my ability to shape a discussion that takes all arguments and facts into consideration, and then come up with the best answer.”

The roughly 45-minute press conference was the senator's first public event on the first day of a five-country swing through the Middle East and Europe -- meant to help boost his standing on foreign policy matters in the eyes of American voters. 

Obama attributed the security gains in Iraq to the US military, “the increased capabilities of the Iraq security forces, the Sadr cease-fire, and the decision by Sunni tribes to take the fight to Al Qaeda.” He declined to call the surge an outright success, while hailing the work of US troops.

Doubts about political reconciliation
“I believe that the situation in Iraq is more secure than it was a year and a half ago. I think that the definition of success depends on how you look at it,” he said. “Originally, the Administration suggested that the key measure was whether it gave breathing room for a political reconciliation. So far, I think we have not seen the kind of political reconciliation that's going to bring about long-term stability in Iraq. But there's no doubt that security has improved and there's no doubt that the extraordinary sacrifice of American men and women in uniform have contributed to that success.”

The event, held near the Temple of Hercules, part of the Citadel complex on a hill overlooking the city, began with brief statements by Sens. Jack Reed (D-RI) and Chuck Hagel (R-NE), both of whom accompanied Obama on the congressional delegation and both of whom have been mentioned as possible Obama running mates.

Reed and Hagel gave statements in support of setting a timeline for withdrawing troops from Iraq. Hagel said it was important for Iraqis to “take advantage of the momentum” that had been produced over the last year to achieve both short- and long-term political reconciliation and said the goal in Iraq was not just “tactical security success” but “strategic political success.”

“I am more convinced than ever after being in Iraq the last two days on my sixth trip that the leadership of Iraq understand that,” Hagel said. "I think the people of Iraq understand it, and it is now time for the United States to start accepting the sovereignty of that country in ways that are real and that means for us to responsibly start unwinding our military presence.”

The Israel-Palestinian issue
During the press conference, Obama also used the opportunity to express his concerns about the truck attack that occurred just hours earlier in Jerusalem outside the hotel where he is set to spend the night tonight. "I want to make a comment about the events today in Jerusalem,” he said. “Today's bulldozer attack is a reminder of what Israelis have courageously lived with on a daily basis for far too long. I strongly condemn this attack and will always support Israel in confronting terrorism and pursuing lasting peace and security.”

Obama also took two questions on the Israeli-Palestinian issue, from people who appeared to be local reporters. Obama said it was his firm belief that it was in the interests of Israelis and Palestinians to arrive at a peaceful settlement but that it was a difficult process.

"I think it's unrealistic to expect that a US president alone can suddenly snap his fingers and bring about peace in this region,” he said. “What a US president can do is apply sustained energy and focus on the issues of the Israelis and the Palestinians. And I do believe that an ultimate resolution is going to involve two states standing side by side in peace and security, and that the Israelis and the Palestinians are going to both have to make compromises in order to arrive at that two-state solution.”

Obama will address the issue Israeli-Palestinian issue in more depth tomorrow, when he visits Israel and the Palestinian Authority and meets with a series of leaders there.

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Even Andrea Mitchell is getting fed up with the nonsense of the Obama Thrill Machine. Obama's on the road show is more a Las Vegas smoke and mirror show designed to entertain the ignorant then it is anything else.
FR: Reed and Hagel gave statements in support of setting a timeline for withdrawing troops from Iraq.


Surrender on a schedule. Nice. The terrorists can now plan ahead, get their budgets settled, figure out their staffing needs, make any capital improvments they may require, solicit their contributors. It's good to make them comfortable, wouldn't want them mad at us or anything.
Spongehead echo mouth has spoken. Now grab a glass of kool aid and cheer.
Wow.  There is absolutely NO SPIN in his statements!  Amazing!  I doubt I'd EVER hear that from the GOP lap dog McCain.  

And Andrea Mitchell:  Stop Downplaying Obama's strides over there.  People need the facts, plain and simple . . . especially now.  For once treat me like I can hunt and digest my own 'opinions'.  I don't need what I see to be 'pre-digested' by You, CNN or the MSM for my 'consumption'.  

I don't relish eating 'vomit' because I am no 'baby bird'!!
Didn’t Hitler occupy must of Europe for fascist expansion?

Didn’t USSR occupy Eastern European Countries for political reasons?

Didn’t Sadam occupy Kuwait for oil?

So my question is this to the McWar Camp and the GOP; are we the United States occupying Iraq?  They do not want us there and the McWar and the GOP are not listening to the Iraqi people and there leaders.  So what are the reasons for our occupation in Iraq’ according to McWar and the GOP?  I never thought the US would take this approach for expansion of democracy, political gain and for oil.  It will be a sad day in America if we continue to force our values and ideology on this country.
Folks, Barack does not speak or think in sounds bites. He is careful and measured in what he says, a quality that has been sorely lacking in the current President. Do you want a President to drink with or one the the intellect, temprament  AND political skills to help us to achieve "real change"?

The choice is ours...

Jessie,
I agree with part of your assessment as the RNC and McCain do seem to be inordinately focused on Senator Obama's trip. Perhaps the ignorant might learn something.
Andrea was just satisfied with how easy Bush's policy was.  Talking about more than one country at a time confuses her. What a pity party she is throwing
I'm confused by Andrea Mitchell's reporting. She seems dumbfounded that a US President would not call upon generals to set US policy. Is she advocating that we become a military junta? Does she understand that Commander in Chief is not a military rank?
This carefully choreographed caravan across the Middle East will be a failure if the traveling press core doesn't have an opportunity to ask tough questions. If what Andrea Mitchell reports is true then Obama is not change but more of the same...keep the press at bay and make sure the back drop is dramatic for re-broadcast on the night news.
"Jessie" and "Max" why do you insist on spilling more American Blood where it won't be appreciated?  

Why do you insist on spilling more of MY FAMILY's BLOOD over in a place that DID NOTHING TO US OR EVER HAD THE CAPABILITY TO??!!

I HAVE FAMILY SERVING OVER THERE!!!
Yes. we are going to declare victory and come home from Iraq. Should have been done years ago. chickenhawks will be moaning about this for years.
Yup, this administration blew it. Get over it.
Ed FW, Tx: Folks, Barack does not speak or think in sounds bites.


Hope and Change!
Hope and Change!
Hope and Change!
Hope and Change!

Nope. No soundbites there. Oh, you're right, those aren't soundbites, they're jingoisms.
The mind of a lawyer and the tact of a diplomat.  What I have noticed in the TV footage is that Obama and Petraeus work well together.  Obama's management style is to listen and Petraeus will say what is on his mind...without the fear of being bullied by someone like Bush or McCain.  The next two days will be huge for Obama..The Israeli/Palestinian Issue tomorrrow and the Tower speech in Germany on Thursday.  
Nice to see Obama coming around on some of this Iraq stuff.  I'm also sure that he is completely responsible for the positive trends there.

Good to see all the subtle backtracking, too.  "Responsible withdrawal" means no timetables and reflects the Bush administration position.  That is, we will remove our troops as the Iraquis assume more responsibility for themselves.  Makes sense to me.  I think he's very sincere and admirable in his acceptance of the idea that we need to to stay until the job is finished and the Iraquis stand on their own.

Or we can go back to the early 70's and "Vietnam" them.

Yup, this guy really is the black Bill Clinton.  Adopt, co-opt and triangulate.  And glide on the breeze wherever it takes you.  



I HAVE FAMILY SERVING OVER THERE!!!

matthew (Sent Tuesday, July 22, 2008 2:23 PM)

Matthew, first and foremost, my sympathy for you and your family. Hopefully this will all end soon. One question, when were your family members drafted?
The trip so far has been a big success for Obama. He has not made any serious mistakes. He has not misunderstood country boundaries and he had shown respect for his rival for the white house. He is a complete gentleman and has the international knowledge required to ocupy the white house.
Jesse Fielders "Even Andrea Mitchell is getting fed up with the nonsense of the Obama Thrill Machine."
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Oh, I don't think that Mrs. Alan Greenspan was EVER much of an Obama fan. But I'll bet she's crazy about Foreclosure Phil Gramm, the architect of the "Enron loophole," the subprime mortage Ponzi scheme, and, of coure, John McCain's economic policy.
What a difference a few days make. Andrea Mitchell, the lefts darling of the air-waves, crosses the loonie libs around here just once, and it's over the side with her. Kind of like Russia used to be actually. You're either with us, or against us I guess.
Max Banks, Glenville, Texas (Sent Tuesday, July 22, 2008 2:14 PM)

Surrender what to whom!
Why are we there!
What constitutes a win!
Come on! Be specific! Make an argument that doesn't start with a flag shove in peoples faces if you can!
I for one am sick of the straw man scheduled Surrender BS!

Are you suggesting we tell the "our brave Iraqi allies" to shove it, we are gonna be here until WE say we aren't?

Whats that make us?!
I'm so proud of Senators Hagel, and Obama.

Both of their statements are good to hear; tonics for the mind, and spirit. Hagel is knowledgeable, level headed, and fair. I really like him.

I'm glad that Obama is speaking with consideration for Palestinians, as well as Israelis.

Senators Clinton, and McCain are completely partisan in their rhetoric favoring Israel, as though other races, and creeds are less than human. That is not right.

We will get further, and perhaps all the way to peace in the Middle East, when we decide to engage recognizing the fact that we are all 'The Children Of Adam'; (so I believe).
What shocks me is Obama had the brass between his legs to go to Iraq after Mccain told him to.  Most people were like no no don't go but instead of it being a bad thing now it looks like everything Obama said on foreign policy has been correct.  This trip has been a wonderful thing for his campaign and will only make Mccain to look more like an old Bush drone fool.
I'll give credit for one thing. Barack is "workin' it," isn't he? And the press eats it up ... as expected.
Max Banks: "The terrorists can now plan ahead, get their budgets settled, figure out their staffing needs, make any capital improvements they may require, solicit their contributors."  

Max's geography is a little off.  He is describing what happened in Afghanistan due to the fact that Bush was madder at the guy who tried to assassinate his father than he was at the terrorists who committed 9/11.  
I’d for one like to thank Barack for what he’s doing overseas. I can’t remember the last time we had so many world leaders and citizens of other nations as anxious as they are now in hearing what one of our premier political figures has to say.

Not to mention when he speaks, he actually knows what he’s talking about and is able to construct constructive and articulate statements. I’ve grown accustomed over the past eight years of people domestically and abroad running from the presence and words of these ‘politicians’. Barack appears to be genuine in his ability to actually want to hear the concerns of these individuals.

It will be amazing or should I say less so, the criticism he will face for being liked by those other than left of center Americans or those disaffected by the last eight years. Who knew being liked around the world would be such a bad thing.
It's sad. I watched McGoo's town meeting. What a train wreck. Noun, verb,"my friends" and Iraq. He's like a dad trying to act cool in front of his kid's friends. It's just embarassing. He should just hand a sign "Obama's not so cool".
Barack is simply taking this whole presidential candidacy process to a higher level than most people can comprehend and it is frustrating them immensely. "Intelligent things are intelligently discerned" (to paraphrase another writing).  Barack's campaign is operating in a sphere that has left most of the media and his opponents wondering and frustrated because they just simply are not accustomed to and don't understand his extreme gift of extremely efficient and effective organizational skills--plus judgment.  It's so refreshing.      
WE ALL WATCHED, SIMPLY OUTSTANDING, SIMPLY OUTSTANDING SEN. OBAMA!
give credit for one thing. Barack is "workin' it," isn't he? And the press eats it up ... as expected.

Full Moon (Sent Tuesday, July 22, 2008 2:32 PM)

BHO belongs more on Dancing With the Stars.
Since McCain’s attacks have been so acidic, I’m so glad Barack didn’t give McCain talking points.  Frankly speaking, the tone is reminiscent of Hillary.

Obama is more electable and qualified that McCain.
Obama saying that it's unrealistic to expect that a US president alone can suddenly snap his fingers and bring about peace in this region is on point. If you contrast Obama’s statement with what Bush said in one press conference that he as The President doesn’t have a magic wand; well true Bush can wave Good-Bye to his stubborn stance to Iraq’s sovereignty.
gg fl [WE ALL WATCHED,]

I didn't watch. So you lied.
Question?  Would Hillary have gone to the middle east like Obama?  Probably not.  
Presidential class or more lies.

Pretty simple choice.
Let's hope his I/P policy finds its way to "evenhanded," despite the fact that, as Dean discovered, the Israel Firsters will blow you away if you dare to utter the verboten "e-word." I certainly dont expect him to utter it, knowing that it is perennially the silly season when it comes to our govts'/media's behavior around the I/P issue. The hypocrisy is off the charts.

He said both sides need to look in the mirror. Then he gave an example of what each might see. The Palestinians, he said, need to deal with their internal conflict (we know that means form the govt the US and Israel will allow, ie, democracy is window dressing, Hamas may not win, despite the votes) and then he went on to Israel. Thing is, I cant recall what he said they would see, only that whatever he said, it didnt sound like anything ... which is why I cant recall it, I guess.

Anyone recall what Israel ought to see in the mirror, according to Obama?
I have to say that I am very surprised at Andrea Mitchell's apparent bias on this Obama trip. It is in the tone of her voice and the words she chooses. Granted, she prefers the fact that McCain is more of a peer to her, however, that doesn't mean it is ok to dismiss McCain's tripping over nouns or geographical locations on a regular basis, such as the border between Iraq and Pakistan - which is non-existant. Your deference is showing.
  As for the Obama-rama - who created this? the Dept of Defense did all the planning and filming while in Afghanistan and Iraq - not the national media. So get over your little selves.
Matt Mikens I am aware that our army is all volunteer . . . but that does not give this president the right to 'spend' the lives of some of the brightest that the next generation has to offer . . . for Ideology, Profiteering and pseudo-christian fundamentalism!  

Maybe you should take the time to read the bio's of some of the fallen.

You understand the pain when a daughter who was double majoring in chemistry and physics with a 4.0 GPA and having earned a full scholarship to an ivy league school . . . sent back home within a month of going there!

You try dampening the rage when you can deduce for yourself that you government LIED to you and now your ONLY CHILD is gone!!

Try that on guys!  Try that hat on Mikens.  When you're done pass it to McCain!!  
Bravo, Senator Obama. Well Done!
Matt Mikens I am aware that our army is all volunteer . . . but that does not give this president the right to 'spend' the lives of some of the brightest that the next generation has to offer . . . for Ideology, Profiteering and pseudo-Christian fundamentalism!  

Maybe you should take the time to read the bio's of some of the fallen.

You understand the pain when a daughter who was double majoring in chemistry and physics with a 4.0 GPA and having earned a full scholarship to an ivy league school . . . sent back home within a month of going there!

You try dampening the rage when you can deduce for yourself that you government LIED to you and now your ONLY CHILD is gone!!

Try that on guys!  Try that hat on Mikens.  When you're done pass it to McCain!!  
Libby Lover, as a member of the Left I can tell you we have never, ever, considered Mrs. Alan Greenspan our darling of the airwaves.
I'm sorry, what in the world did Andrea Mitchell say?  And she's the "darling of the left?"  Are you kidding me?  She's vapid and has to apologize and redact her own statements on more than one occasion that I can remember.  And she was so far in the bag for Clinton it was embarassing.  
MSNBC,
You and the rest of the media are helping perpetrate the biggest fraud in history on the American people.
Those of us who can see through your veiled attempts at news can only hope that this Obama Overdose will show the public what the man truly is -- a weak junior senator who has only seen 2 of his sponsored bills passed: one for naming a post office after someone and another to benefit the people of the Congo.
NEWS FLASH: The moment W authorized paying the insurgency not to fight us, we effectively lost the war.  There's no honor in that.  It's part of the $10 billion we send over there in treasure.  Now I ask you: was the surge a "success" if we are spending unimagineable amounts of $ over there with no end in sight and our economy is suffering?  How does the insurgency feel about getting paid not to wreak violence on our troops?  Do they think they've won?

Of course they do.  Don't be stupid.

The point is, the "Surge" is a joke.  WE SHOULD BE THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.

FINALLY!........an American abroad that we can be proud of and not have to make excuses for. Obama not only listens, but seems to understand what he hears. As for Andrea Mitchell, she seems to be of the same school as David Gregory playing a game of "let's get the leader." Perhaps they would be both better suited as hatchett men for Fox News.


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