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McCain gets more than he bargained for

Posted: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 2:55 PM by Mark Murray

From NBC/NJ's Adam Aigner-Treworgy


ROCHESTER, NH -- During a return trip to the state that he won in the 2000 primaries and that launched him on the road to this year's GOP nomination, McCain got more than he bargained for from the independent-minded voters he is so complimentary of on the campaign trail. Before opening up to questions from the audience of several hundred that crowded into the Opera House downtown here, McCain picked up on his campaign's message of the day: Obama and Iraq.

"I had the courage and the judgment to say that I would rather lose a political campaign than lose a war," McCain said, referencing a tag line he used to defend his support for the troop surge in Iraq. "It seems to me that Sen. Obama would rather lose a war in order to win a political campaign."

But McCain had to deal with at least one audience member today who is sympathetic to Obama's view of the situation in Iraq. An older woman engaged McCain on the issue, voicing vehement opposition to the US involvement there and saying that "we are in Iraq against international law," and all of the deaths that have occurred in that country verge on "criminal."

"Now the idea that we might someday have a stable democratic government there is not ours to impose on that country," the questioner said. "We should not be there in my opinion. We need to leave the country. The people of that country are asking us to leave. The prime minister of that country is asking us to leave."

McCain allowed the woman to speak and follow up several times, but each time he was unmoved by her impassioned plea against the war, reiterating that the US has "succeeded" and even arguing that Iraqis are now living normal lives.

"The fact is that everybody recognizes, including Prime Minister Maliki, that we have to have conditions-based withdrawal, and we all -- we are gonna withdraw," McCain said. "We will withdraw. The fact is, is whether we withdraw in victory or whether we withdraw in defeat. And again, you and I have different versions. We have succeeded. The Sadr City is safe. Mosul is safe. Basra is safe. The people of Iraq, and I've been there, are now leading normal lives."

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I do not understand what McCain means by withdraw in victory. Victory against who? Against al-qaeda that was busy strengthening themselves in Afganistan while we got stuck in Iraq? When will this victory come? Please can someone tell me? Mccain keep saying if we listen to Obama we would have left in Jan. the fact is that if listened to Obama we would not have gone into someone else's country on the premise of absolute lie.
I hope McCain and the rest of the repukes don't define victory in Iraq as a fully, 100% democratic country where everyone gets along, can come and go anywhere without any fear of getting hurt, and all essential services are alway there 100% of the time...because it won't ever happen there, heck, that's not even an accurate description of the US!
didn't he say that last itme he was there?  You can walk to the market.  (as he was surrounded by 100 armed guards, wearing a flack jacket, with two blackhawk helicopters overhead!)
And Petraus drive around Baghdad in an unarmoured vehicle!

Those were LIES too!
If it is so safe....tell him to take his family over there on vacation ad do a little sightseeing then!  He could proudly show his CHILDREN what HIS VOTE FOR WAR DID to the people of IRAQ!!
WE HAVE SUCCEEDED AT WHAT?
WE, the American people have PAID the PRICE FOR THIS WAR...in more WAYS THAN just FOOTING THE BILL!
He is an Blabbering IDIOT!
A sovereign nation expressed its desire to have us remove our troops.  To stay now would be an occupation.  America is better than this, or at least we used to be better than this.


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