Teasing the new NBC/WSJ poll

Posted: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:10 PM by Mark Murray
Filed Under: 2008, Polls

From NBC's Mark Murray
Here's one result from the new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll that will be released tonight at 6:30 pm ET on Nightly News and MSNBC.com... With the news that Iraq's prime minister wants the US to set a timetable for withdrawal, 60% of registered voters believe it's a good idea for the US to set such a timetable, while 30% say it's a bad idea.

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I agree with everyone. A funny thing happened on the way to the Middle East.

Senator Obama looks polished; he appears to be very intelligent as there is no one around whispering in his ear; he is being treated with a great deal of respect; he is treating them with a great deal of respect. But most importantly, leaders are agreeing with his opinions.

Just more examples of change.

And as you can see, his supporters are proud today. Very very proud. And not one bit surprised by the way Senator Obama has handled himself.

Pat, Boston, MA (Sent Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:16 PM)

Interesting . . . can't wait to see what else you found out . . . hope John McCain gets some good news . . . or he and Andrea Mitchell may implode!

lol

Nashville_fan (Sent Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:17 PM)

COME ON FR!!! Where is the Couric/CBS story of McCain's Gaffe regarding the Sunni Awakening!!!!!!! And CBS's attempt to cover it ( the Gaffe ) up!!!!!!! If BO had made such mistakes, the MSM would be riding him on it until November!!!!!!

I WOULD IMAGINE YOU WOULD BE ALL OVER THIS....IT IS YOUR COMPETITION DOING VERY WRONG THINGS!!!!!!

PLEASE do not let this everyday reader down!!!!!

Matthew, Bloomfield Hills Michigan (Sent Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:17 PM)

I wonder if a polling question was asked about how much people approved of McSame's Iraq policy of just attacking everything that Barack says.

Hey McCan't, a never ending war with no definition of victory is NOT a plan. Believe it.

Jesse, St. Louis Park, MN (Sent Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:18 PM)

The remaining 10% were shocked to learn that Iraq HAS a Prime Minister and demanded to know what was being done about the situation on the Iraqi/Pakistani border.

Gary Schear, bozeman Montana (Sent Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:19 PM)

Andrea,WTF. Whats going on with you? You are coming across as angry, and dare I say unprofessional. Shape up.

Leni,michigan (Sent Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:20 PM)

Is it surprising to anyone that the 30% closely mirrors the 28% that still approve of the disaster in the White House?

Just a thought (Sent Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:21 PM)

CBS news omitted McCain's massive gaffe from their video of his interview last night.

culturethreads.com has the uneditted video posted on their website for all to see.

ujj (Sent Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:21 PM)

Mark...

Why is it that most polls I see add up to 90%, or very close to it? Is there really 10% of the population that can't make up their mind on anything? No matter what the question?

BL, Cincinnati OH (Sent Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:21 PM)

I find it hard to beleive that 30% are that stupid

thats a fact jack (Sent Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:22 PM)

"60% of registered voters believe it's a good idea for the US to set such a timetable, while 30% say it's a bad idea."

wouldn't that be 60% of registered voters "polled"
best I remember no one asked me what my opinion was on the matter, polls are very misleading things and their numbers can be easily manipulated using many different tactics, buyer beware

MK,MO (Sent Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:22 PM)

Not surprised. American voters - as opposed to American politicians - are more than happy to end an occupation when the country we are occupying says, "we think it's time for you to go." Neo-cons and other political elites may yearn for empire but Americans have never been a fan of it.

Wonder what the numbers were pre-Maliki?

OGLiberal (Sent Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:23 PM)

I am really looking forward to this poll. But I need MORE! :)

Marihelen, TX (Sent Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:23 PM)

Mark you guys are wrong for this one. People come heare for a political fix and you give them a whiff of the stuff.

Must have more...

Lee-- Dallas, TX (Sent Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:24 PM)

60% of the people think carnage in Iraq is just peachy with them.

30% of the people think we should exit once we know the terrorists won't take over after we leave.

Stats Man (Sent Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:24 PM)

Growing concensus!

Obama '08...the only choice for me

Fee, Philadelphia (Sent Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:25 PM)

Mark,
How do you get this stuff before it's released? What is the purpose of a release date if you get it anyway?

craig startt, Atlanta, GA (Sent Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:26 PM)

Same group of 60% also believe UFOs are real, that Elvis is playing at the MGM tonight in Vegas, and a big old nuclear plant can be replaced with one windmill.

Hans Greenburg, Cole NE (Sent Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:26 PM)

They want us to go we should, carefully!

Anne/Ohio (Sent Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:26 PM)

Hey are any of you guys on daily kos or any other blogs out there? Captain smash, clara, nashville fan and the like?
I seem to have been blackballed by msnbc for trying to give fact-based and thorough answers to right-wing one-liners and fear mongering.
I'm more than a little tired of spending my time typing away at this place just to be ignored while others get to continually post things like Obama is a muslim and other tired and unintelligent smears.
I really do not want to be here anymore but I really enjoy alot of your posts. So please let me know if there are other places I kind find your posts and won't be censored as I try to put my two cents in.
Thanks!

Mark,Seattle (Sent Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:26 PM)

Just a quick note. I just heard Andrea Mitchell say, Obama said he would meet with Ahmadinejad. What Obama actually said is he would meet with the leader of Iran, not neccessarily Ahmadinejad. Most people believe Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is the true leader.

Michelle (Sent Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:26 PM)

Mark,Seattle (Sent Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:27 PM)

But were they questioned on a "Time Horizon"? :)

http://strategy08.wordpress.com

Dan, New York, NY (Sent Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:27 PM)

If the Iraqi's want us out, I'm not sure why it's a bad idea. Now, I do believe that Obama's statement of "being as careful getting out as we were careless getting in" still holds true. But, it's time to leave a country we should have not attacked.
Afghanistan is where we should've concentrated, and with the rcent uprising of the Taliban there, we need to reinforce what we're doing there.

Roofin Reality, Houston, Tx. (Sent Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:27 PM)

People also believe that the NYTimes revenue is down 80% year-over-year. Oh wait a minute, that one is true.

New York Daily News Pup (Sent Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:28 PM)

Where are all the obama slammers now??

Brenda (Sent Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:29 PM)

you have to be a big idiot not to get out of that country when the elected government asks you to do so, especially since the troops are desperately needed someplace else.

Raj K MI (Sent Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:29 PM)

May God bless our troops and bring them home from victory! may God bless our future president Obama, the man with the moral courage to bring our troops home after they did their duty for the GOP chicken hawks like Bush, Cheney and all the members of the Project for The New American Century.

Thomas Jefferson (Sent Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:30 PM)

Here we go. Just the beginning of these poll results that will show a big increase in support for Obama. I'll bet this poll shows Obama leading McCain by 10+ percentage points.

C A, Tuscaloosa, AL (Sent Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:30 PM)

Of course so many think it is a good idea, most of the voters in the country want out of this deplorable situation. It is only the unreasonable and intractable hard core who are not interested. If the "surge" or troop escalation is a success, then it has reached its objective. I wish someone would ask cCain, why he wants to stay there.

I have been just watching Ambassador Holbrook interviewed by Andrea Mitchell, once again she is pushing bias towards Obama. Why is she so determined to push her opinion regarding Sen. Obama, she is not there to push an agenda, only report the happenings, you know Andrea, kinda an eyewitness report. We can form our own opinions. By all accounts here and abroad Sen Obama is doing a remarkable job of introducing himself to the world and the world likes what it sees, I only hope enough voters will take note too. We need this man to help make the world better.

gmhussein, Jupiter, Fl (Sent Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:30 PM)

MC CAIN HAS GONE TO FAR ON THIS ONE!

HE WONDERS WHY NO ONE IS LISTENING!

HE HAS DEMENTIA OR SOMETHING MENTALLY WRONG WITH HIM!

HE DOENS'T NEED TO BE ANYWHERE NEAR THE "BUTTON"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/23/mccain-camp-attacks-obama_n_114486.html

MR (Sent Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:31 PM)

Gawd, it's 1pm, and I', bracing myself for----wait for it----Mika AND Andrea on MSNBC

I may need a beer................

laughaday

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Someone should call in and ask Mika if she can touch her elbows behind her back. It would fill 10 or 15 minutes of the show before she caught on.

Mika is Coll (Sent Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:34 PM)

Hopefully Americans will connect the dots, and Senator Obama's CIC polling numbers will begin to improve against Senator McCain.

Hopefully.

donna (Sent Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:34 PM)

Note to FirstNews:

This isn't related to this blog, so feel free not to post it. But PLEASE get something out there about McCain's statements about giving Bush credit for lowering the price of oil.

McCain is unwittingly admitting that the true problem is with the oil speculators. The price of oil cannot drop because of a speech unless it is the oil speculators who listened to the speech that caused the prices to drop.

In other words, if the oil market prices were driven by ACTUAL supply/demand forces, then it would be literally impossible for a speech to impact the price of oil. The oil would have to reach the market before the supply/demand ratio would change and spark a drop in oil prices. The only way Bush's speech could affect the market would be if oil speculators reacted by selling off their positions, and taking their profits.

The only change in supply/demand that happened was the demand for oil futures from oil speculators trying to make money off of the oil crisis (profiteering).

The fact that McCain doesn't even understand that his statements confirm that the oil speculators have artificially pushed up the prices of oil futures (and are now responsible for the prices dropping) is truly disturbing. How can he be so clueless about such an important economic issue?

Side note: There is an anti-profiteering bill going through Congress right now that would halt the oil speculators from running up oil futures just to make their own personal profit. Now if I were an oil speculator, I would be getting out of the oil market now while I could still take my profits, instead of waiting until this bill was made law. This would be a better explanation of why oil speculators are selling off their positions than a speech made by Bush that won't have any market effect until years from now. The bill's effects are much more immediate, thus much more likely to immediately spur a sell-off.

Nixon (Sent Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:36 PM)

Good to see oil is down again today. Who needs a tax holiday when you have a President that knows how to get all the speculation out of that market? Ie., threaten to drill for our own oil. Now it's up to Congress to act. McCain is for drilling. Obama is against drilling. Hmmm, who to vote for . . . ?

Oil Makes Me Happy (Sent Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:38 PM)

McCain is on the run. He has cancelled today's press event to avoid questions on the MAJOR Iraq gaffe he made on CBS (how many in 1 day?).

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/23/mccain-on-the-run-cancels_n_114539.html

New Wave (Sent Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:38 PM)

Just goes to show the wisdom of Obama. He is well connected with people of this country. McCain? More of the same and just like Bush, is out of touch with the masses.

Joe Reed (Sent Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:38 PM)

Anyone who refuses to listen to the top military commanders in a time of war, is just plain stuipd !

Independent Texan (Sent Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:41 PM)

100% of Senators from Arizona currently running for President oppose the timeline. Well, they don't oppose one so much as refuse to believe it could exist, as if it were Santa Claus.

Any chance you could throw out the crosstabs of that particular result, Mark? Dem/Rep/Ind? M/F?

Pander, Picayune MS (Sent Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:42 PM)

Didn’t Hitler occupy must of Europe for fascist expansion?

Didn’t USSR occupy Eastern European Countries for political reasons?

Didn’t Sadam occupy Kuwait for oil?

So my question is this to the McWar Camp and the GOP; are we the United States occupying Iraq? They do not want us there and the McWar and the GOP are not listening to the Iraqi people and there leaders. I never thought the US would take this approach for expansion of democracy, political gain and for oil. It will be a sad day in America if we continue to force our values and ideology on this country.

Capt. Smash, Salt Lake City, Utah (Sent Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:43 PM)

Time line, timetable, time horizon? It is past the time for our combat forces to return home.
A goal of sixteen months is not unreasonable and can be adjusted if circumstances warrant it. With a date in mind it pushes the Iraqi government to move on their issues and begin to stand on their own. Sure they will likely trip and fall, just as most fledgling governments do, but as others have done they will manage to pick themselves up and dust themselves off.
We have brought them just as far as we can (I am not sure they ever wanted to be brought any where) now it is their time to stand up for themselves. They have made it quite clear that they do not want an occupying force in their country for say, the next hundred years!

luther28 oakdale, ct (Sent Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:43 PM)

this guy called Obama is not yet elected, but it appears that he is already leading

David Anderson (Sent Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:44 PM)

My guess

McCain will flip-flop on a withdrawl timetable before the day is over.

His adviser has already said we may be out even before 16 months.

I smell desperation!

Tina, NC (Sent Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:44 PM)

So?

D. Cheney - Washington, DC (Sent Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:44 PM)

Those 30% are the percentage that want some return on this occupation. Give it a rest already. Obama was right all along from no need to going to war in Iraq to turning the attention to the Afghanistan/Pakistan region. The 30% need to get a grip and come back to reality.

Cloudosmoke (Sent Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:45 PM)

So 60% are for a timetable 30% say no and 10% is clueless. That might be close to the election results in November. Obama in a landslide.

Oh, Andrea, a better word than "cocky" is "confident".

Ron Indiana (Sent Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:45 PM)

McWar will not do what Americans want. Mc war is acting like Hitler wants to over the world.

Capt. Smash, Salt Lake City, Utah (Sent Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:45 PM)

That 60% of the people agree should tell McCain/Bush/Cheney Regime what honor is!
Isn't that what honor thy neighbor as thyself means?

Beverly in Chicago (Sent Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:45 PM)

I hate Teasing, just for that I'm not watching tonight. Report the news when it's news or not at all.

GP Chicago (Sent Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:46 PM)

Iraq is tired of being occupied!!! Their neighbors are getting tired of standing by and watching it!!!

Britain took a deliberate decision at the Uqair Conference in 1922 to draw up the borders of Iraq, Kuwait and Saudi Arabia in such a way as to deny Iraq a major outlet to the Persian Gulf, limit its influence in the region and make it dependent upon Britain.

In 1920 at the Conference of San Remo, the imperial powers dealt out the title deeds to the Middle East among themselves as though they were playing a game of cards. France got the mandates for Syria and Lebanon, while Britain got Iraq, Palestine and Transjordan. They issued new currencies linked to the franc and sterling areas that served to disrupt the trading relations within the newly fragmented region. Britain and France would hold the mandates for a limited duration, not as colonising powers, but as guardians to an underage ward with the League of Nations acting as the board of trustees. As a consolation prize for losing Mosul as had been agreed under the Sykes-Picot agreement, France got a 25 percent share in the TPC, the company set up to exploit Iraq’s oil deposits.

These people are tired of us and they have made it well known. Both Bush and McCain have stated publicly to the media that IF IRAQ ASKED US TO LEAVE, WE WOULD LEAVE. Well, what is the problem???

We should leave ASAP! Don't forget, we saved Sadaham Hussein from the death penalty, he became our "friend" we sold those deadly chemicals to him, we also trained Osama Bin Ladin, he was our ganster in Afganistan. We have in the past made some real mistakes and have selective memory when things don't turn out. We need to get out of their country as quickly as we can.

Kathy in Michigan (Sent Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:51 PM)

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