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Club for Growth goes after McCain

Posted: Monday, July 28, 2008 4:23 PM by Domenico Montanaro

From NBC's Domenico Montanaro
Fiscal conservative group The Club for Growth went after presumptive GOP nominee McCain on social security.

"We listened with concern yesterday to your interview with George Stephanopoulos on Social Security," the club's president Pat Toomey writes in a letter to McCain. "When asked if you would be open to raising the payroll tax, you refused to rule out a tax increase, saying 'There is nothing that’s off the table.' This statement was particularly shocking because you have been adamant in your opposition to raising taxes under any circumstances."

Then, the club pulls out one of McCain's own quotes from February of this year: “No new taxes . . . In fact, I could see an argument, if our economy continues to deteriorate, for lower interest rates, lower tax rates, and certainly decreasing corporate tax rates, which are the second highest in the world, giving people the ability to write off depreciation in a year, elimination of the AMT.”

"We strongly applaud the above statement and believe further tax cuts would play an important role in stimulating the country’s economy," Toomey continues. "But your comments yesterday send American taxpayers and businesses a mixed message about where you stand on this issue."

The close: "We hope you will clarify where you stand on this important issue and reaffirm your commitment to eschew all tax increases."

Full letter:

Dear Senator McCain:

We listened with concern yesterday to your interview with George Stephanopoulos on Social Security.  When asked if you would be open to raising the payroll tax, you refused to rule out a tax increase, saying “There is nothing that’s off the table.”

This statement was particularly shocking because you have been adamant in your opposition to raising taxes under any circumstances.  In a March 2007 interview with Ramesh Ponnuru of the National Review, you ruled out accepting tax increases as part of a compromise to entitlement reform.  And on February 17 of this year, you told George Stephanopoulos, “No new taxes . . . In fact, I could see an argument, if our economy continues to deteriorate, for lower interest rates, lower tax rates, and certainly decreasing corporate tax rates, which are the second highest in the world, giving people the ability to write off depreciation in a year, elimination of the AMT.” 

We strongly applaud the above statement and believe further tax cuts would play an important role in stimulating the country’s economy.  But your comments yesterday send American taxpayers and businesses a mixed message about where you stand on this issue.  Raising the payroll tax or the wage cap on Social Security taxes will increase the tax burden on many Americans and will only exacerbate the key problem with the current Social Security program—the low rate of return workers receive on their contributions into the system. You have long been a strong supporter of personal Social Security accounts, and we hope you will reaffirm you commitment to free-market-based reforms without tax increases so that we can truly empower and enrich workers in their retirement years.

We hope you will clarify where you stand on this important issue and reaffirm your commitment to eschew all tax increases.

Sincerely,
Pat Toomey
President, Club for Growth

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Sorry - Club for Growth goes after McCain on the same page as McCain had a growth (mole) removed?

Do these headlines strike anyone as funny?  
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"Sure. Next step for Obama is to get rid of capitalism. Not convinced? Nationized healthcare, nationalized banking system, nationalized energy, nationalized school system (oops, already have that).
A program for every person, and a chicken in every pot.
This Obama, he's so smart, he knows everything.
Thomas Melray, Miami FL (Sent Monday, July 28, 2008 2:55 PM)"

Thomas?  That "nationlized school system" that you disdain so?  That's also known as "No Child Left Behind", which, as I recall, was a Bush directive. Hmmm...
See? Even the fiscal conservatives think this guy's a joke! Didn't Bush run as a fiscal conservative? Isn't it great he's leaving our next President a $489 BILLION deficit when he had a surplus when be began? If that's Fiscally conservative, then bring on the liberals! Go Obama, '08.
Apropos of...

I know you guys hate paste jobs, but I also know you have a sense of humor(?).

If you can take a joke, post this from Atrios:

"Obama's Lead Might Not Be Good For McCain
by: Chris Bowers
Mon Jul 28, 2008 at 13:07

First Read has a serious question about current polling:

   But do consider this question: Which candidate has the bigger problem in the polls -- Obama (who seems to have hit a ceiling in the high 40s) or the better-known McCain (who's stuck in the low 40s in many national or state polls)?

Yes, do consider this question.

Is it better for a candidate to be polling in the high forties or in the low forties? Seriously, think about this one for a while, because the answer isn't as obvious as it seems.

If you are trying to win an election, is it better to be ahead, or behind, in the polls? This question has haunted philosophers since Kirkegaard.

Let me rephrase: is it better to have more public support or less public support? I guess the answer depends on whether or not you hate bands once they become popular. Someone could make a case that McCain isn't actually trying to win the election, and thus being stuck in the low-forties is actually good for him. Still, after lots of tortured inner reflection, I think First Read came on the right answer:

   It's a problem for both, but the fact that McCain can't get past 45% in so many polls could be the bigger problem.

Yes, I would have to agree that trailing in the polls is a bigger problem than not trailing in the polls. Good thinking, First Read.

That they even felt compelled to ask the question is demonstrative of a long-standing pundit reflex to argue that everything is good for Republicans."  
Let me guess - To be in this club for growth, you would have to make well over $250,000 per year?

Greed is what drives Wall Street.

Bee (Sent Monday, July 28, 2008 3:41 PM)


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What do you prefer to drive it?

See, this is where liberals get confused. They automatically think greed is a terrible thing. Is it greedy to work harder then anyone else to supply a need for people, like for example a new drug to treat AIDS? Sure the person that comes up with the drug may get rich, but look how many people they helped. Is that person greedy? Sure. They wanted to supply something to the market better, faster and/or cheaper then anyone else, and to better themselves in the process. That is greed.

And you liberals have a problem with that. I guess you're not happy unless no one is making any money.
Wait a minute...are you saying that McCain contradicted an earlier statement, and reveresed his position on a crucial issue? I don't believe!! But I thought McCain was a "straight talker"!  Okay, so maybe this is just enother "senior moment."  

Be afraid of this man becoming president for the next 4-8 years...
The effect Sen. McCain would have on the economy would be disaster for average Americans. His, like Bush's economic policy revolves one way...around the rich.  John McCain is an old man who's been on the gov't dole and had health care provided his entire life.  He has nothing in common with middle and less than middle class except his x-wife that he dumped to move up the ladder.  It's time to start asking more of the wealthiest.
Heck, why not eliminate all taxes, and do away with the entire Federal Gov't!  

Groups like this are full of idiots. One of the best ways to ensure Social Security continues, is to raise the payroll limit or eliminate it completely.  It's not going to hurt the average american.  It will only hurt the super rich.  Too bad.
A vote for McCain is a vote for the tax maybe being increased.

A vote for Obama is a vote for the tax absolutely being increased. That, and about two dozen other taxes.

Obama will clear up the complexities of the tax form though. It will simply state: 'How much do you make? Send it in.'
Pat Toomey,
You must have just stepped out of a cave. Asking John McCain to clarify himself on anything is something that is impossible for him to do.
Didn't you hear him say that "Social Security is a disgrace? Why are you waiting until now to ask him for a clarification?
Anybody who talks about raising taxes should never hold office.  Hopefully McCain did not slip, but with the problems the liberal media has said there are, why would anyone in their right mind ask for tax increases?

One way to stop runaway spending is to stop doing earmarks.  Charlie Rangel can raise the money himself if he wants the name on a building.  I forgot he is being investigated for that LOL.
Obama's 527?
"and certainly decreasing corporate tax rates, which are the second highest in the world"

This is complete nonsense and it's time the media starts calling people out on this.  All through the GOP primary the candidates were either repeating this, or that the US has the highest corporate tax rate.  Just off the top of my head, Japan, Germany and Canada all have higher corporate tax rates.  US companies funnel their profits back to the US so they can enjoy lower rates.
I have read more than one article that lauds Obama as the "pro-growth candidate", not McCain. Part of this is due to Obama's plans to REFORM taxation.  See this interesting article:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/01/AR2008060101917.html

We need progressive ideas, folks, not old ones!
McCain is being caught in way too many mis-speaks or gaffes or changes in his positions regarding several issues. When the heat is turned up either during the Presidential debates or by way of additional interviews by news media who will confront such positonal changes, McCain will not be able to handle the pressue. The result will be denial, side-stepping the question, an over-generalized response or loss of temper. The man is beginning to be hammered (only his fault) and in short order something is going to break.  


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