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McCain: We love these dueling headers

Posted: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 9:13 AM by Mark Murray

In the Washington Post, Brent Bozell writes under the header: "McCain's Problem Isn't the GOP." "Is McCain running a ‘limping, message free’ presidential campaign? On a couple of issues (most notably Iraq), that analysis is incorrect. But on too may fronts, it's an accurate assessment. As I argued in The Post in March, McCain cannot win in November unless he has his conservative base energetically working for his election."

And in the Wall Street Journal, William McGurn argues under the header: "McCain's Problem Isn't Bush." More: "Mr. McCain seems intent on reassuring skeptics that he's no George W. Bush. If he loses in November, he'll prove it."

(So what is McCain's problem? Neither candidate is arguing that McCain's problem is with the moderate middle... We're guessing others would ask that, too.)

McCain appeared at the 68th annual Sturgis Rally in Sturgis, SD last night for a short rally, NBC/NJ’s Adam Aigner-Treworgy reports. During his brief remarks, he joked about Obama's recent trip to Berlin, saying that he preferred the sound of Harleys to excited Berliners. And he once again called on Congress to reconvene and vote on offshore drilling. Cindy McCain also spoke briefly about being the mother of two active-duty military and called her husband the "only man that can keep us free."

The rally was held at the historic Buffalo Chip campground and concert venue, where thousands of bikers were gathered to drink and see Kid Rock perform later in the evening. This is the place where they don't cheer; they rev their engines instead. There is another stage that is also part of the festival, where KISS performed and where they were holding preliminaries for the Ms. Buffalo Chip beauty pageant -- an often-nude affair.

That information is relevant, Aigner-Treworgy adds, as McCain joked during his remarks that he had encouraged Cindy to participate, so she had a chance at being the only lady to serve as both first lady and Ms. Buffalo Chip.

The Los Angeles Times: “Rather than applause, McCain was greeted again and again by the full-throated roar of scores of gleaming Harley-Davidsons of every shape and color. The stench of burning gasoline and rowdy shouts filled the prairie night air. It was almost as if McCain, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, was a celebrity -- a dirty word in his lexicon since his campaign last week ran ads mocking rival Barack Obama for his celebrity status, comparing him to Britney Spears."

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How does his wife stand McCain disrespecting her the way that he does?  How sexist is that?  And why would ANY woman vote for him?
God bless John McCain. He is going to make a fine President.
McCain said the American people deserved a positive campaign for the presidency, and he'd rather lose the election than give the American people anything less.

Guess he wasn't being quite truthful there, huh?

But I see the media coming around and slowly, slowly starting to question their preconceived notions about McCain. Bottom line is he isn't the person we all thought he was.
If I was Barack Obama, I wouldn't go to that rally and tell those Harley people to check the air pressure in their tires LOL.

If McCain is so off message and so boring, why can't Obama close the deal?  Could be because he is just as boring himself, offers no solutions to problems and the solutions he does offer make good material for RNC and late night comics?
"How does his wife stand McCain disrespecting her the way that he does?"

Which one?
I like conservative writers and reporters better then liberal reporters. They manage to be both supportive and critical of their candidate. Liberal reporters just parrot the party line and the candidates rhetoric day after day.
The rally was held at the historic Buffalo Chip campground and concert venue...
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A fitting name for a McCain appearance venue -- since he shovels a lot of "buffalo chips" when he talks about issues and his rival.

http://thepajamapundit.com/
I think mccain is just bored and has nothing to do but obsess over obama. reminds me of sean hannity obsessing over Michelle Obama

New Ohio GOP Ad uses Hillary against Obama
http://sensico.wordpress.com/2008/08/04/new-ohio-gop-ad-uses-hillary-against-obama/
or
http://sensico2.blogspot.com/2008/07/my-blogs.html
"Is McCain running a ‘limping, message free’ presidential campaign?" - I love blind rhetoric early in the morning.  If you don't have a platform, pivot to attacking your opponent.  I believe that IS their message.

PS.  I know for a fact there were a group of Teamsters at the rally that ARE NOT Repubs and were not thrilled with dorky dorkington crashing their party.  Some of them are friends of mine!

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From yesterday:
“…If he feels the government has the right to grab a legitimate company's profits then what else does he think the government has the power to do…?”
Paul (Sent Monday, August 04, 2008 11:30 AM)  Paul, why are you so convinced that the profit is legitimate?  Speculating on Oil Futures is gambling.  Price fixing is illegal.  I would say many Dems are sick and tired of the profiteering of corporations by illegitimate means.  Passing laws to make things ‘technically’ legal; when the intent is still to defraud, doesn’t make it legitimate in my book or the book of many.
If Obama had asked Michelle to participate in a nude beauty contest, MSM would be all over it! You know, I'm sick and tired of McCain getting a past!!McCain has no respect for women, it's been revealed in the past so many times. Hillary supporters take that!! I hope Rachel Maddow mentions it today, she seems to be the only one that keeps up with the campaigns.
How much gas do you burn when you "rev" your engine?

How does his wife stand McCain disrespecting her the way that he does?  How sexist is that?  And why would ANY woman vote for him?
sotiredofignorance (Sent Tuesday, August 05, 2008 9:18 AM)

Why don't you lighten up?  Life is too short to be mad all the time. Finding something wrong in everything can't be good for your health!
Cindy McCain, I hope we be free from your husband. The man has no plan for this country except surge and more war (bomb, bomb, bomb Iran).
McCain will make a terrible president.

A senile, more war-mongering, dumber George Bush.
McCain will make a terrible president.

A senile, more war-mongering, dumber George Bush.
Yeah, McCain's quite the family man, isn't he? Offering up Cindy for a nude beauty contest.....yep, very presidential, isn't he? Geesh! Woman should be flocking to the Obama camp for this alone; if this doesn't convince you, check out his voting record(when he actually votes, that is) on woman's issues.
Glad I didn't go to Sturgis this year, that dumb old jerk would have ruined the atmosphere!
This is the place where they don't cheer; they rev their engines instead.

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Nice event, Old Man River...go to Sturgis where instead of cheering they rev their engines while they sit and idle and WASTE GASOLINE!!!!!!!
Noting like waste fuel by revving up gas-guzzling Harleys! Oh, I forgot . . . McCain will be drilling, drilling, drilling, and drilling more rather than telling the bikers to keep their bike's tires properly inflated so they can save gas!

And what the heck is McCain doing at a Biker Rally where many women willingly reveal their breasts?

I cannot imagine if Obama had suggested this for Michelle... Morning Joe would have had a racial meltdown.  MSM at hypocrisy's best.
If McCain wins in Nov, gas will soar so high that it will cost those harley riders twice the price to travel to the meeting next time around.
Can anyone explain to me why Cindy McCain when with her husband, follows him like a shadow?

When he addressed the Urban League last week in Orlanda, she walked out onto the stage with him.  I get the feeling she is there to monitor and mind him as do Liebermann and Graham.      Any thoughts on this?
Mccain has been absent for 60% of the votes in the Senate.Mccain has not cast a vote since April.Does Mccain think saving 815,000 barrels of foreign oil by inflating your ties is a joking matter?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXU6s7iSXzs&NR=1

Vote for the future...

Obama'08
{sigh}...

One thing McCain's not is a gearhead.  I'm sure Cindy felt SO at home at Pocono.  

They both may want to brush up on the fact that NASCAR also recommends inflating your tires for better gas mileage.
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"God bless John McCain. He is going to make a fine President.
Susan Roman (Sent Tuesday, August 05, 2008 9:19 AM)"

Why?  Because he called a bunch of bikers his "friends"?  Can the bar get any lower?
"If I was Barack Obama, I wouldn't go to that rally and tell those Harley people to check the air pressure in their tires."

Jerry - you do know McCain was lying about that, right? That's not part of Obama's energy plan. It is advice he gave, to one person who asked what she could do to improve her mileage.

Sorry, Jerry, but it seems as though you're a victim of McCain's lies. If I were you, I wouldn't vote for him.
"Cindy McCain...called her husband the "only man that can keep us free."

I guess she is referring to the Bible verse from John 8; doesn't it go something like, "whom McCain sets free is free indeed"?

So, actually it's Cindy McCain, not Michelle Obama, who is married to "the One."

Glad Cindy finally settled the Messiah issue for us!
McCain has sold out his core values to become a "true republican" for this election. I don't see how anyone ( incl his own Party ) could believe what he says.
SOME TIME AGO HILARY SAID SHE HAD SOMETHING ON OBAMA THAT WOULD CHANGE THE ELECTION AND THAT'S WHY SHE ONLY SUSPENDED HER QUEST FOR THE PRESIDENCY, WELL HER IT IS.







This came from a USNA alumnus.  It'll be interesting to see how the media handles this...    



Barack Obama is not a legal U.S. natural-born citizen according to the law on the books at the time of his birth, which falls between December 24, 1952, to November 13, 1986.  Federal Law requires that the office of President requires a natural-born citizen if the child was not born to two U.S. Citizen parents.  This is what exempts John McCain, though he was born in the US   Panama Canal Zone .

US Law very clearly states: ". . . If only one parent is a U.S. Citizen at the time of one's birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for minimum ten years, five of which must be after the age of 16."  Barack Obama's father was not a U.S. Citizen is a fact.


Obama's mother was only 18 when Obama was born. This means even though she had been a U.S. Citizen for 10 years,  (or citizen of Hawaii being a territory), his mother fails the test for at-least-5-years- prior-to Barack Obama's birth, but-after-age-16.  



In essence,  Mother alone is not old enough to qualify her son for automatic U.S. Citizenship.  At most, 2 years elapsed from his mother turning 16 to the time of Barack Obama's birth when she was 18.  His mother would have needed to have been 16 + 5 = 21 years old at the time of Barack Obama's birth for him to be a natural-born citizen.  Barack Obama was already 3 years old at the time his mother would have needed to be to allow him natural citizenship from his only U.S. Citizen parent.  Obama should have been naturalized as a citizen . . . but that would disqualify him from holding the office.

The Constitution clearly declares:  Naturalized citizens are ineligible to hold the office of President.   Though Barack Obama was sent back to Hawaii at age 10,  any other information does not matter because his mother is the one who must fulfill the requirement to be a U.S. Citzen for 10 years prior to his birth on August 4, 1961, with 5 of those years being after age 16.  

Further, Obama may have had to have remained in the USA for some time frame to protect any citizenship he might have had,  rather than living in Indonesia .   This is very clear cut and a glaring violation of U.S. Election law. I think the Governor Schwarzenegger of California should be very interested in discovering if Obama is allowed to be elected President without being a natural-born U.S. Citizen, since this would set a precedent. Stay tuned to your TV set s because I suspect some of this information will be leaking through over the next several days.
McLiar wants Congress to reconvene and vote when he hasn't been there since April?!?!

Inflating your tires is something working class people can relate to. Obviously McLiar doesn't understand working class people. There is no fast solution to this problem, so Obama is telling people what they can do to help in the meantime. Practical solutions!
 I see that John Sydney McCain III has taken the word "celebrity" off of his website. t used to be in his introduction. The "political celebrity" who wants to go back to 2000 when he was a maverick. Now, he's just a joke. What is wrong with John McCain? Where have his numbers in Florida gone? Wasn't he up by 27 points due in part because the Democrats didn't even campaign there? Todays polls have him up by 1.6 points on average and actually DOWN by 2 at Rasmussen. What is wrong with John McCain? Why can't he seal the deal in a state with his built-in demographics?
Is it just me, or does it seem out of touch to address bikers on an energy plan?  Many (most?) bikers are bikers for pleasure, not out of necessity.  It seems weird to talk about drilling for more oil to people who are pleasure seeking when their are people who are trying to put food on their tables can't because they can't afford to pay for gas to get them to a job... Seems kinda weird to me.  
Yes, "want real change", because sexism from McCain IS healthy, right....?
HAHAHA, you feminists are a riot! A naked woman!!!! NO RUN!!!!!!!!!! Disrespected her? He suggested she enter cause for her age she is Amazingly attractive, and has a knockout body! Wow, From now on when I tell my wife she is gorgeous or has a great body, I should feel ashamed! Shame on me for my silly disrespect! You see the posts boys! No more complimenting women! When she asks if she looks fat in that outfit tell her the truth! No the outfit is fine, it is probably her butt and gut that look fat! Hmmm wonder why Hillary lost! LOL!!!!!!! Knock it off people! IT WAS A JOKE!!!  (although I would watch it!)

(ok if ya didn't pick up on that sarcasm your just sad)
Guys, please don't dis Susan "God bless John McCain - He is going to make a fine President" Roman.  She was just being ironic.  You were, right, Susan?  Tell me you were!

Obama '08
FACTS show that correct air pressure will save more gas/oil that we can extract from offshore drilling. No republican ever let facts stand in the way of their BS simplistic arguments though. It's so much easier to exploit ignorant, low information voters. Please God save us from the uneducated, uninformed voters of this country.    
McCain is becoming irrelevant. The "mavrick" is long gone.  He has flip-flopped on most of his old positions and has become nothing more than an old pol who will say anything to garner votes and discredit his opponent.

His opponent, on the other hand, knows how to listen and to compromise to come up with solutions to the many problems left by George Bush.  
To Travis,
McCain"c campaign was just looking for a "crowd", ANY CROWD, as long as it didn't belong to Obama, to stick him in front of. It could have been a "no more toliet paper rally", he wouldn't care. He just wants a crowd for a campaign ad. A Biker Rally..unbelievable!! Nudity, knives, pot...great "conservative, family values ad. I'm sure this will really endear him to Hagee and the other evangilicals.
The Dems should use McCain's appearance at this club in an attack ad asking if McCain is really the candidate for women.

This is disgusting.
RE: Barack Obama is not a legal U.S. natural-born citizen according to the law....
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Barack was born in Hawaii.  That is a U.S. State.  His mother was a U.S. citizen.  Barack is a U.S. citizen, natural born.  All persons born in the United States, except those not subject to the jurisdiction of the U.S. government (such as children of foreign diplomats) are citizens under the Fourteenth Amendment.

If he wasn't a U.S. citizen, don't ya think it would have come out by now?  Why didn't Hillary use it when she was winning those primaries in May?  Stop trying to smear Obama and come up with reason to vote for McCain instead of blowing hot air.
What a corrosive sexist old man! Does this strike any of you reporters as sexist? She's standing there and he's wiping his shoes on her; telling her and all other women what their place is _ namely in the bikini contest! And even at her age she has to take that bull! This is atrocious! But I guess it's just a joke right? wink wink you guys in the press. Remind me, what year is it again?
It’s so easy to determine the difference between those supporting Obama and those supporting McCain.

Obama supporters are intelligent and analytical, but most of all, show a deep respect for others.  Obama supporters also demonstrate American morals that helped shape this country into a great nation.  Obama supporters have a higher level of integrity, and a deeper religious belief in God and live by the words of God.

McCain supporters generally present their opinions in a harsh, and threatening manner.  McCain supporters are hostile, quarrelsome and bitterly opposed to anyone that does not share their life style and convictions.  McCain supporters are morally and religiously void of integrity.  Intellectually, McCain supporter’s relish opportunities to associate with sleazy and untrustworthy individuals that can continue to feed their hatred, bigoted and small-minded thinking and actions.  McCain supporters prefer lies to truth, and are actually afraid of searching for truth only because it may dispense with the hatred that controls their lives.  

McCain supporters would prefer for our nation to continue down a path that could destroy it and it’s people.    
Obama is a US citizen because he was born in the STATE (not territory) of Hawaii 47 years ago (Happy Birthday Obama). Any person born in a US State is a citizen. Period.

All of the other nonsense in the email/post about "child of a single non-naturalized citizen in a territory at the age of blah blah blah" is pure and total buffalo chip. Check out Obama's website www.fightthesmears.com to see his birth certificate. Better yet, crack a freakin book once in a while and educate yourself about the Constitution before parroting lies.

There is a real constitutional issue as to whether or not MCCAIN qualifies as a citizen. Check out Snopes:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/mccain/citizen.asp

I think it shows the inherent racism and bias of the anti-Obama groups that people believe the lies about Obama so easily, essentially because he doesn't look like all those other presidents, while at the same time they dismiss the REAL CONSTITUTIONAL QUESTION of McCain's citizenship.

I think it also shows that Obama is running a class campaign where works hard for every vote and focuses on REAL ISSUES that deeply affect America rather than waste time with smear campaigns. When he hands out tire gauges, says he wants his wife to be "Ms. Buffalo Chip", and put up ads with Britney, McCain is acting like he's running for the title of Class Clown, not President of the United States.
J.Wonderlie, Ware, MA (Sent Tuesday, August 05, 2008 10:09 AM)
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You really believe this?  Sad....sad....sad.
J.Wonderlie, you have been misled. The section of the law you cite is correct, so far as I know, but is ONLY relevant for children born outside the US. Senator Obama was born in Hawaii after it became a state and is therefore a US citizen, and would therefore have been a citizen even if BOTH of his parents were foreign nationals.
Travis, it doesn't seem wierd to me that a Presidential candidate would speak to both groups.  A President is supposed to serve both groups equally, not just the poor.

McCain has been absent for votes because he is campaigning.  At least he has a voting history, Obama started in 2005, and doesn't even complete one term before he starts being absent.  His voting record in Illinois isn't all that spectacular either.  As one of his constituents, that voted for him, I am rather disapointed, especially since he basically told his constituents he had no interest in running for President when we voted for him in the Senate.

Talking about disrespect!  It is well ducumented that McCain lost his temper a while back and called Cindy the c--- word in front of several witnesses. Presidential material?
John McCain keeps challenging Obama's competence to lead using demeaning comparisons. So I think it is legitimate to challenge his.
Experience alone is only useful if the future is like the past. To meet new threats and opportunities one needs creativity, analytical skills, judgment and foresight and restraint.
John McCain was graduated from Annapols 4th from the bottom of a class of 898 cadets. This should give a voter pause. George Armstrong Custer is another famous American military officer who graduated at the bottom of his class at West Point. During the Civil War he became famous for the conspicuous gallantry he displayed leading cavalry charges. However neither bravery nor experience saved his men as be blundered on to Little Big Horn.
Custer lost a few hundred men at Little Big Horn. Custer in the White House today could end civilization as we know it.
Yes, yes, yes, you must pander to the gas guzzlers to justify warring in the Middle East, to justify occupying MidEast countries, to justify destroying the waterways, the coasts, and the wildlife refuges.

I have a question though.  Why didn't Hillary Clinton receive the same criticism when she pandered to the NASCAR crowds?  Doesn't NASCAR burn more fuel than the "annual" once-a-year Sturgis Rally?

We've killed millions of people to sustain the American way of life:  Motorcyle rallies, dirt bike races, boat races, and car races.  Do we really NEED more oil?  Can't we find less violent pastimes?
Its sad how McCain the Maverick has turned into a Bush clone in the last eight years. Not only is he using trivial issues to beat up Obama but his agenda is no different that Dick Cheney's.
 Those who plan to vote for McCain should really think hard about whether we can afford a war with Iran.


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