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Obama Ohio ad: Is it fair?

Posted: Friday, August 08, 2008 2:08 PM by Domenico Montanaro
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From NBC's Domenico Montanaro
The closing of a DHL facility that would cost the town of Wilmington, Ohio, more than 8,000 jobs, has been a hot-button local issue that has crept into the presidential race. On Thursday, McCain met behind closed doors with a group of Wilmington residents at Wilmington College to discuss the situation at the DHL Air Park.

Now the Obama campaign is seizing on McCain's and Campaign Manager Rick Davis' role in helping foreign-owned DHL acquire the space in 2003 with a radio ad running in the crucial swing state of Ohio.

"It was McCain who used his influence in the Senate to help foreign-owned DHL buy a U.S. company and gain control over the jobs that are now on the chopping block in Ohio," an announcer says.

But is this a fair hit? It's true that, as the Cleveland Plain Dealer pointed out on Tuesday, "In 2003, Davis lobbied the Senate to accept the proposal by DHL to buy Airborne Express for $1.05 billion. Airborne Express at the time ran the airport and package-sorting facility in Wilmington."

But is that a smoking gun? Not exactly. The Plain Dealer also pointed out that the acquisition "resulted in expansion, not retraction" and "several Wilmington civic leaders said that what happened in 2003 created an economic gain for their community, lasting several years."

The president of the Ohio AFL-CIO, a union that has endorsed Obama, places the blame squarely on Mccain and Davis. "Those jobs are on the chopping block because Sen. McCain and his campaign were involved in a deal that resulted in control of those positions being shifted to a foreign corporation, and there's no getting around that," Joe Rugola told the Plain-Dealer.

But can McCain and Davis really be held responsible for job cuts five years later after the initial acquisition created growth for the town? And would an American company really have acted any differently if it found a way to cut cost to keep steady or increase profit?

Here's the script:
ANNCR:   July 9.  2008. Portsmouth, Ohio. Here's what John McCain said about DHL’s plans to eliminate 8,200 Ohio jobs.

JOHN MCCAIN (from Ohio town hall):  I gotta look you in the eye and give you straight talk. I don't know if I can stop it or not or if it will be stopped.

ANNCR:  But there’s something John McCain's not telling you: It was McCain who used his influence in the Senate to help foreign-owned DHL buy a U.S. company and gain control over the jobs that are now on the chopping block in Ohio. And that's not all: McCain's campaign manager was the top lobbyist for the DHL deal...helped push it through.  His firm was paid $185,000 to lobby McCain and other Senators. Now 8,200 Ohioans are facing layoffs, and foreign-owned DHL doesn't care.

JOHN MCCAIN (from Ohio town hall): I gotta look you in the eye and give you straight talk.

ANNCR:   John McCain. Same old politics.  Same failed policies.

BARACK OBAMA:  I'm Barack Obama, candidate for President, and I approved this message. Paid for by Obama for America.

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Actually, it is a fair ad.  There is nothing in the script that is untrue.  The AFL-CIO President is correct.

This happens a lot actually.  A foreign corporation steps in and buys (either outright or a controlling stake) in a US company.  Initially, things are great.  But if there is a downturn in business, or a need for cutbacks/consolidation - guess who inevitably pays the price?  You don't for one minute think it's the executives who made the deal do you?  No, it's the workers.  For the stockholders and the executives it's great.  But the little guy very often gets hurt in the end.

Doesn't it strike you as just a little phony for McCain to turn around and now be for the little guy?  

Too little too late Sen McCain.    

That's right Barack you tell 'em. Educate the low information voter's so they won't be duped by the  senile, possibly undiagnosed Alzheimer’s candidate, McCain. Barack is doing what needs to be done.


Nobody, but Obama

OK, Yes everything is fair in : love, hate, and POLITICS!!!!!!!!!!!!

So put that in your pipe and smoke on it McCain!

Ohio will be BLUE in November!
As I've said before..Obama is not running a clean campaign he just says he is then releases negative ads.  Guess he flip flopped on that one too....
The real issue is "JUDGMENT". McCain judgment in promoting the purchase of an American company by a foreign one again shows that he does not care about American workers. The most recent example of this is the Boeing / Airbus contract.

Obama 08
Of course it's fair.  Rick Davis did lobby for DHL.  Rick Davis used his access to John McCain to help the deal go through.  Yes, over 8000 people are out of work.  All of this is true.  McCain meanwhile can accuse Obama of treason, not caring about troops, and terminating live babies but you guys will play it nonstop without a counterpoint.  Then when Obama's team finally smacks it down then you accuse him of being humorless or too serious.  The bar is so low for McCain but sky high for Obama.  McCain is a liar but no one will call him on it.  Shame.
Hmm!!  How many negative ads have the McLiar camp put out that are full of lies? And how many of them did the media do their homework on ask if they were fair? Just wondering.

And by the way, this ad is fair and balanced.


It isn't 100% fair.  Given that there was an increase at some point, you can't totally blame McCain for the fall.  It is the way that somethings happen.  The question I guess the Obama campaign is asking is: would the jobs in question if DHL never took over Airborne Express in the first place; we think that they would still be there if Airborne Express was in charge.
After the countless misrepresentations and out right lies of of the John McCain ads (for example, Obama is to blame for high gas prices) about Obama, how could you put your fingers to the keyboard to type "Obama Ad:  Is it Fair?"  Ask yourselves this question:  Was it McCann who used his influence in the Senate to get this deal done?  If your answer is "yes," then the ad is fair?  He did not blame McCain for the downfall.  He merely pointed out that it was McCain who had a hand in getting the deal done.  When are you people in the media going to quit giving this man a pass?  Had it been Barack Obama who had done this, it would be plastered all over the media.  Over and over, McCain makes missteps and false accusations and the media slaps him on the hands.  On the other hand,  Obama is given a harsher punishment.  Wake up, Obama is being treated as the stepchild in a this Media Marriage.  
Obama: Have you flip-flopped on your different kind of politics? Seems so. —sent by sean
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Sean and others who are complaining about Barack hitting hard on McCain:

WHY IS THERE A DOUBLE STANDARD????  McCAIN has  turned an ugly campaign onto Barack and he has tried to be fair BUT enough is enough.


A reminder to you:all:

This just in!
Another memo leaked on McCain's general election strategy.

1. Call Obama an elitist
2. When he insists he grew up poor with a single mom in Hawaii, call him "exotic"
3. When he says exotic is a code word, say he is playing the race card.
4. When he moves to the center and tries to make non-partisan deals with us, call him a flip-flopper. When he doesn't, call him an extreme left-wing liberal.
5. When he draws a big crowd, call him a celebrity
6. When he gives a good speech, say he's too slick or something dated like "snake oil salesman".
7. When he ignores us and turns the other cheek, say he thinks he's Jesus!


A comment by another blogger and most welcome information
"At the time of the merger, no one anticipated an impact on jobs in Wilmington," McCain spokesman Brian Rogers said.

That may be be overstating their case. According to a report published at the time in Aviation Week & Space Technology, however, "The question of carrier and hub survivability [was at the time] haunting to the thousands of air-side employees of both carriers and the airports. Airborne operates 100 aircraft at Wilmington with a roster of 750 pilots represented by the Teamsters."

AP reported September 17, 2003 that in the immediate aftermath of the merger, 2870 workers lost jobs in other operations. "It's only natural that a shake-up as big as the Airborne-DHL deal is causing some people to worry about ABX's future in the region, Mayor David Raizk said at the time, "People are concerned ... There's a lot of concern about transferring jobs to Cincinnati."

Quoting from: theretrospectivist.blogspot.com/2008/08/mccains-job-plan-for-wilmington-oh.html
one of the things that i question is the often used statement from jm, that he has not asked for nor gotten "earmarks" or special projects for his state, constituents, and supporters (other than corporate). and yet, his constituents still vote for him.

as part of our representative government system (our republic) our representatives are there to "bring home the bacon" with federal resources to improve the district, region or state. other than that, what good is he or she.

one other thing i think needs to be brought up. john is disingenous with his so-called anti-earmark stance. although he has not brought home anything for his people, he has done a whole lot of favors for corporations around his state, the ones that contribute heavily to his campaignes.

but this is not being investigated nor talked about in the main media.
Of course it is fair..MCSame,Davis and the rest of the republicans would sell out their mother for a dollar--or lot's of dollars I should say.
For all his "Country First" talk, there seems to be a whole lot of American businesses falling into foreign hands with a McCain connection, including the family business, Budweiser beer.

And now we have the conflict between Georgia and Russia, and wouldn't you know it -

"McCain foreign policy director Randy Scheunemann represented the former Soviet republic of Georgia as a lobbyist between 2004 and 2006."

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/08/the-trouble-wit.html#comments

Is there anyone in the McCain campaign with clean hands?
Wow they ask if Obama's adds are fair. Yet they have to ask if McCains are even true. What is wrong with this picture? Gee which one would I want in the White House? How you campaign is a picture of how you will govern. Look back at the Bush campaigns if you do not believe this statement.
I am getting pretty fed up with MSNBC defending John McCain's lies. Every news show on the network opens with a question like this: ''The sun is shining today.
Will this hurt Obama?'' NBC is turning into a Fox clone. You guys need to ask the question: Why can't McCain catch up?''
anyone that argues that our current system of uncontrolled capitalism is not the worst thing that has ever happened to this country is nuts
one of the things that i question is the often used statement from jm, that he has not asked for nor gotten "earmarks" or special projects for his state, constituents, and supporters (other than corporate). and yet, his constituents still vote for him.

as part of our representative government system (our republic) our representatives are there to "bring home the bacon" with federal resources to improve the district, region or state. other than that, what good is he or she.

one other thing i think needs to be brought up. john is disingenous with his so-called anti-earmark stance. although he has not brought home anything for his people, he has done a whole lot of favors for corporations around his state, the ones that contribute heavily to his campaignes. this dhl situation is asactly what i am talking about.  

but unfortuately, john's corporate favors are not being investigated nor talked about in the main media.
Very fair. If Americans only new how, in the pocket, these politicians are with big business they would puke. Of course, 50% don't pay attention. Maybe Ohio will FOR ONCE not vote against their best interests. Get a clue. This man is no good for the midwest. OBAMA '08. They can try to smash him like they've been but there is NO DOUBT he is a different kind of politician. Look  how he's handling the Clinton Machine with grace and humility. I couldn't do it. They have been so nasty and unsupportive. And the media - MY GOD. Every single night. WHY IS OBAMA not doing well? Why? LOL MY GOD! He's up as much as 6 to 7% in some NATIONAL polls and ahead in just about every battleground state.  WHY IS MCCAIN NOT DOING WELL? Why is the man with 27 years "experience" barely breaking 40 - 45%? Why?  BECAUSE AMERICA HAS WOKEN AND ITS TIME TO RETAKE OUR GREAT NATION. DEMS 08.  Republicans will pay.
FirstRead bends over backward to be "fair" to McCain even though it sure looks like his lobbyist cronies are share some of the blames for the town's troubles.

But Firstread seems to think it's fair to let McCain get away with lying about Obama wanting to lose wars to win elections. To the corporate media, corporate media, fainess seems to be a one-way street that's going to lead to  McCain in the White House.
I don't happen to think this ad is unfair but when the McCain camp comes out with an ad laying the blame for high gas prices firmly on the shoulders of one man, Barack Obama, then I think it's more than OK for Obama to lay the blame for lost jobs today on something that McCain and Davis actually did do 5 years ago.
McCain's folks can make whatever they wnat up and throw it on the air, so if the qestion is fairness, then yes 100%

If the question is "is this right" then no, it's not right for either of these guys to pull this kind of stuff. There are substantive issues in play here, please stick to them.


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