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First thoughts: The Georgia test

Posted: Monday, August 11, 2008 9:25 AM by Mark Murray
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 From Chuck Todd, Mark Murray, and Domenico Montanaro
*** The Georgia test: Russia’s assault on the sovereign nation of Georgia has become a 3:00 am moment of sorts in this presidential election. And so far, President Bush -- who was in Beijing watching the Olympics -- appears to be as frozen on how to respond as either McCain or Obama would be. This is Russia, not Iraq, and it's not like a military reaction (or a threat of one, i.e. symbolic movement of troops or ships) is the easiest answer. Indeed, instead of a 3:00 am moment, perhaps it’s better to describe this as a Cuban Missile Crisis moment, when we have to weigh long-term interests against a short-term problem. McCain tries to drive the issue today by making a statement at 9:00 am ET. Yet the Arizona senator is going to have a hard time making the case that Obama has a deer-in-the-headlights look when the Bush Administration appears to be acting more paralyzed than either candidate. Can McCain continue to be more hawkish on backseat driving Bush on this? Is it in McCain's best interests to have Bush and Obama being closer on this issue? Some key folks in Georgia appear to be disappointed in the US response so far, but will anything short of sending military assistance be acceptable to these folks? By the way, could Bush have looked any less comfortable having to answer questions about Russia-Georgia with NBC's Bob Costas? How disengaged is he from his job? OK, we know he's not disengaged, but he's certainly giving off that vibe. Finally, just asking: Did Joe Biden's stock just go through the roof with the Georgia crisis? Is Sam Nunn suddenly back on the short list?

*** McCain a celebrity, too? If you live in or near a battleground state, chances are you’ve heard the following McCain campaign line on your TV dozens of times: Barack Obama “is the biggest celebrity in the world.” Indeed, at a fundraiser last week, McCain even declared, “He is a celebrity and I am not.” But the truth is, up until this presidential contest, McCain has been one of America’s biggest celebrity-politicians. After all, he’s appeared on Saturday Night Live, had cameos in “24” and “Wedding Crashers,” and was the basis for the made-for-TV movie on McCain’s book, “Faith of My Fathers.” And now, the Obama campaign is counterpunching with a new TV ad (to begin running Tuesday on national cable) that highlights McCain’s own celebrity, including his appearances on SNL, Letterman, Leno, and The View. “For decades, he's been Washington's biggest celebrity. John McCain,” the ad says. Clearly, this celebrity stuff has gotten under Obama's skin, and that's why the campaign is fighting back a tad on this front. But how serious is this buy? It's cable-only for now so maybe it's designed solely for the cable chattering class.

*** Tone deaf? By the way, like good NBC-Universal employees, we spent much of the weekend watching the Olympics. And during the commercial breaks, we saw plenty of those Obama-is-the-biggest-celebrity-in-world TV ads hitting the presumptive Democratic nominee. But almost every other TV ad we saw -- whether it was from Audi, Coke, or the now foreign-owned Anheuser-Busch -- was positive and upbeat. Just asking: Are McCain’s ads tonally off for the Olympics? They stuck out because they were darker than every other ad. The good news: The ads stuck out. The bad news: The ads stuck out. It's a gamble. The message will get across, as all messages from constant negative TV ads do. But will McCain's own favorable ratings pay a price as well?

*** Lots of unanswered questions: The good news for Edwards is that many in the national press corps just don't have the resources to tackle this story at this time in the campaign. That said, there are a lot of inviting gaps in Edwards' story that will keep some journalists sniffing around this story for some time. For instance… Why did one day after Hunter's sister challenge Edwards to a paternity test did the woman suddenly decide she wouldn't let her baby be tested? Why the change of heart? Was there a quid pro quo? If Edwards told his wife about the affair when he said he did, why was Hunter still with the PAC and campaign? Why didn't Edwards apologize to Hunter in his interview? We could go on, but the Edwards response to everything these last 72 hours will probably be seen as the beginning of this story -- not the end. By the way, anyone trying to “war game” the Iowa caucuses without John Edwards and simply wonder if Obama would have still won need to remember there were a bunch of other candidates still in the race (Biden, Dodd, Richardson) and Clinton had some serious characteristic problems/challenges in the Hawkeye State. Remember, those Edwards voters were voting for change, something Clinton hadn’t figured out how to sell by January 3.

*** Veep watch: Former Pennsylvania Gov. (and Homeland Security head) Tom Ridge campaigns today with McCain in Ridge’s hometown of Erie, PA. Is Ridge a real possibility, despite his pro-choice views on abortion? Or is this a shiny metal object for us to ponder during this Olympics lull?

VIDEO: McCain and Obama must pick their running mates soon. NBC's Andrea Mitchell reports.

*** Downballot spotlight: With Obama in Hawaii and the Olympics going on, we’re going to spend this week looking at some of the more compelling downballot races this cycle. And today, we’ll start by noting all the Senate contests taking place in presidential battleground states. In Colorado, Mark Udall (D) faces off against Bob Schaffer (R); in New Mexico, it’s Tom Udall (D) against Steve Pearce (R); in New Hampshire, Jeanne Shaheen (D) gets her rematch against Sen. John Sununu (R); and in Virginia, Mark Warner (D) takes on Jim Gilmore (R). All of these states are toss-up states in the presidential race, and Democrats appear to have the edge in all four Senate contests -- especially Virginia, which is looking like a blowout win for Warner. How will these downballot races impact the presidential contests in these states? Also, don’t forget about the competitive gubernatorial race in Missouri between Jay Nixon (D) and Kenny Hulshof (R) or the potentially competitive GOV race in Indiana, a state that could end up in the toss-up battleground by October.
 
*** On the trail: McCain begins his day in Erie, PA, where he tours a GE plant with Tom Ridge and then holds an employee town hall there. Later, he heads to Harrisburg, PA. Obama remains on his vacation in Hawaii.

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of course McCain is a celebrity, hes been in more movies and Obama has been in none.Also I dont think goergia will be a campaign issue, I think they both win.

clinton campaign memos: paint obama as foreign, find out more
http://sensico.wordpress.com/2008/08/10/leaked-clinton-memos-portray-obama-as-foreign/
or
http://sensico2.blogspot.com/2008/07/my-blogs.html
John McCain is a celebrity, but he is NOT a "known quantity" the way the press keeps going on about.  In fact, I think more people on the streets know more details about Obama's life than McCain's.   And tell Democrats to stop repeating this lie to:

http://strategy08.wordpress.com/2008/08/11/bob-kerrey-needs-to-stfu/
Finally, the Obama campaign is hitting back on the ridiculous 'celebrity' charges.  Although, if I had my way -- both campaigns would be talking about more substantive issues.

It is nice to see Obama hit back though.

http://thepajamapundit.com/
No, John McCain is not a celebrity, no matter how much the media tries to tar and feather him with that nonsense. Barack Obama is the Paris Hilton of politics though. Fun to watch, but do you really expect anything important to come out of his mouth?
this is bizzarre, I got my first read text a full 23 minutes ago.  Expect delays, my friends.

PS.  I saw McCain's Celebrity ad that has been debunked by factcheck.org.  It really was a downer during some really great international goodwill with the sportsmanship being displayed.  He is just not a statesman who raises the discourse, at all.

John McCain is a War Monger no question about it. He keep saying " I hate wars, I know how to win wars". Folks that says it all

Republicans and miltary men on John McCain
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdJUCU1UH2w&eurl

McCain: Britney & Paris Ad Parody
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fvvNU7fBxk&feature=related

Bush on lobbyists and McCain - 2000
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZGanXje3UE&feature=related
McCain's Ad tells me he doesn't have any good thing to say about America. He is not a visionary but only running because he wants to be President.

The guiy is a fraud.
McCain's ad during the opening ceremony (ironically, right after the USA team marched into the stadium) was such a buzzkill.  I've talked to alot of people and they all feel the same - it just felt out of place during what should be an inspirational and uplifting event.  And the fact it keeps running over and over, I think viewers are just going to tune it out....or groan like I did when it aired AGAIN after last night's 400 m. mens relay.
First Read: With Obama in Hawaii and the Olympics going on, we’re going to spend this week looking at some of the more compelling downballot races this cycle.


Yeah, nothing going on with McCain. Just ignore him. Even though he's starting to lead in some polls.
Why is First Read so surprised that poor pathetic Shrub has no idea what to do with Russia?  He looked into Putins soul and decided that he was a heckuva good guy, and didn't seem to notice that Putin is a big giant Commie. Bush is probably stamping his feet in a major tantrum that the little fracas got in the way of his vacation. I can't believe that people voted for this idiot not once, but TWICE!!!
No one will answer.  Did McCain realy have an affair and leave his wife.  This is no way for a Family Values Candidate to behave.  Please somebody report the truth so we don't have to rely on unfounded accusations.  Edwards is no longer a candidate but McCain is.  Someone report the truth
Camie:

Please tell us, what movies has John Mccain been in?
I can thing of only one, "Mr. Magoo."
The Georgia test? If Obama took a position, the MSM would call him presumptous, arrogant and inexperienced, not matter what the position was. Instead, let the MSM darling--McCain--publish a position, if he has one. Obama is away all week, and old man McCain had been complaining about lack of MSM attention. Let's see if McCain has a proactive idea while he has his "base" all to himself rather than just reacting badly to whatever Obama does.

I'm glad to see Obama FINALLY hitting McCain back.
Thank God for the Olympics.  No repeating topics on MSNBC all day. No Joe (UGH) No David Gregory (He's awful) Chris at 7 is back (no Mike B yipee) and KO at 8.  Their shows are the only ones I like.
The signs are all there showing that McCain doesn't have much of a chance at all.  Russia's invasion of Georgia is indeed a crisis but it seems that the American people have already decided that George Bush is not important anymore.  People can't wait to turn the page on this disastrous Administration.  Sen. McCain would only be an angrier continuation of what we have now.  Bush is too busy on vacation in the Olympics taking pictures and laughing along with the very man whose nation is the aggressor in the conflict.  Instead people are more concerned to hear what Obama thinks.  People are even saying that Sen. Obama needs to get off of his vacation to DO SOMETHING.  Mr. Bush by his own sorry record has created a huge vacuum of leadership but when Obama acts "too presidential" the pundents(pundits) blast him for it.  The Pundents have it wrong again--the American people are crying out for a true leader.  Obama is looking like one while McCain is looking like a scorned child.  A very good read about McCain.  http://phoenixnewtimes.com/content/printVersion/848709  This account really goes along with the McCain I remember from my time in Phoenix during the 80s-early 90s.
Why cant Obama come up with some ads of his own.  He looks like a little kid trying to fight back but can't come up with anything of his own.

Surprising BHO "citizen of the world" didn't vacation at the Olympics. It would have such a great stage for his run for leader of the world.
First of all the real reasons about changing deeds between Russia and Georgia aren't known to American citizens and whatever the concerning emotions entail , politicans are going to transmit as little as possible , while their backs aren't up against a wall yet.
The McCain ad is totally out of place during the Olympics.  People want a positive experience watching the Olympics on TV and then here comes McBuzzkill with his negative ad.

Sorry, it's disgusting...of all times when you should have something positive to say for yourself, he becomes GOP (Grumpy Old Person).
McCain's answer to the Georgia test? Tough talk. That's all the guy knows.

He doesn't wait for details. He doesn't wait for confirmation of anything. He just views the situation in terms of good guys and bad guys, and talks tough.

Sound familiar?
John McCain talks serious issues with smaller gatherings.

Barack Obama is no different then the Rolling Stones. A lot of noise, a lot of jumping around, adoring crowds, no content, no ideas, no clues.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/08/shrum-on-clinto.html

SOUND FAMILIAR???

McCain had affairs... Not one
So I hear dimwit Bush had another one of his sit-and-stare-for-7-minutes moments again.
Free Tibet

Free Georgia

Free Iraq
Dazed and Confused. John McCain Says He Needs More Sleep.
From the left….Talking Points Memo has compiled a low-lites video of Sen. John McCain,
R-Ariz, appearing "dazed and confused" on the stump -- though it's what Brit Hume called a "senior moment," not cannabis, that Democrats suggest is at play. Watch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWX5u69hmzY&eurl

John McCain Says He Needs More Sleep
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8/9/18235/05966/990/565497
This is Bush's responsiblity to handle.  He is still the one in office.  This is a reflection on republicans, all republicans.  Even if we wanted to send assistance, how can we?  We are working on the 'surge' in Iraq!  WE do not have the man power to give assistance.  What a devastation to our military and a  mess Bush/Cheney have created.  
It will take a democratic president by the name of Barack Obama to get this mess fixed!
While the russians flex there muscles, some thing you call a 3 am call moment you have the bomber saying that if he dos'nt sleep until 8.00 am he dos'nt do very well.Here is a guy that wants to be prez but wants to pick what hours he will be available.This is the POTUS we are talking about, not your current job that you haven't seen in months Senator,this would be more like a real job.With real issues,and real tough choices are made,and being alert and ready 24 hours a day.This is no job for the eldery.
This is Bush's responsiblity to handle.  He is still the one in office.  This is a reflection on republicans, all republicans.  Even if we wanted to send assistance, how can we?  We are working on the 'surge' in Iraq!  WE do not have the man power to give assistance.  What a devastation to our military and a  mess Bush/Cheney have created.  
It will take a democratic president by the name of Barack Obama to get this mess fixed!
"And so far, President Bush -- who was in Beijing watching the Olympics -- appears to be as frozen on how to respond as either McCain or Obama would be."

Bush isn't frozen...he's just waiting to find out how much oil is in Georgia.

...either that or he's trying to find out how close the Russians are to Atlanta!
CUBAN MISSLE CRISIS???

Where do you guys get this stuff?  Out of the "Stupid Thoughts" vending machine?

The Cuban Missle Crisis involved the very real possibility of having nuclear missle from the USSR, our biggest enemy at the time, placed 90 miles off the coast of Florida.

What possible similarity is there between the current Russia/Georgia dust-up and the Cuban Missle Crisis?

PAY ATTENTION!  We may expect you to actually report some news one of these days!
No one will answer.  Did McCain realy have an affair and leave his wife.  This is no way for a Family Values Candidate to behave.  Please somebody report the truth so we don't have to rely on unfounded accusations.  Edwards is no longer a candidate but McCain is.  Someone report the truth
John Lemaster Houston TX (Sent Monday, August 11, 2008 9:40 AM)

Yes Mr. Mccain did have an affair while married to his first wife, but for some reason the powers that be in the media refuse to discuss the details, which to me seems somewhat suspect, Mr. Mccain receives a pass by the media on all too many things such as his sub par military record which is never discussed, Mr. Mccain’s moral standards are questionable at best by anybodies standards but don't expect to hear much about it from the press.

No one will answer.  Did McCain realy have an affair and leave his wife.  This is no way for a Family Values Candidate to behave.  Please somebody report the truth so we don't have to rely on unfounded accusations.  Edwards is no longer a candidate but McCain is.  Someone report the truth
John Lemaster Houston TX (Sent Monday, August 11, 2008 9:40 AM)

Yes Mr. Mccain did have an affair while married to his first wife, but for some reason the powers that be in the media refuse to discuss the details, which to me seems somewhat suspect, Mr. Mccain receives a pass by the media on all too many things such as his sub par military record which is never discussed, Mr. Mccain’s moral standards are questionable at best by anybodies standards but don't expect to hear much about it from the press.

why does Dick Cheney seem to be so much closer to John Mccain suddenly ...all the time.  someone need to look at how close Dick Cheney and mccain have been on issues for the last 8 years.

you suddenbly realize it is not Bush that McCain is close to ...but Dick Cheney.
The Media is scared to report on MCCAIN'S AFFAIR!  More people need to know he had an affair while married to wife 1 while she was recovering from car crash injuries, with wife 2, Cindy, because of her money.
-5% change by 2012 in after tax income of the top 0.1% of US earners under Baracks plan.   +12% change under mccains plan.  Its about the $ folks, do you want to keep yours or give to the ulra rich.
On the Georgia-Russia situation, I feel that it is very serious in that it demonstrates how much goodwill and political power has been bled out of the United States of America during the Bush Adminstration.

The way the wars in both Iraq and Afghanistan have been conducted have raised questions throughout the world about the power and competence of the American military. That will go down as the most devasting legacy of the Bush Administration - taking the American military from one of the most feared fighting forces on earth to one of the most overworked and misused fighting forces on earth.

Only time will tell how high the price we pay for the Iraq folly will go, but the actions by Russia this weekend are much bigger than politics.

Republicans and Democrats had better figure out a way to work together and unite America - our competitors in Russia and China are unifying and consolidating their power even now. American can no longer afford the luxury of being divided.
John Lemaster, I want to know also.  I think the press is afraid to report the TRUTH about mccain.
'...the Bush Administration appears to be acting more paralyzed than either candidate. Can McCain continue to be more hawkish on backseat driving Bush on this'...

Ther's a good reason for 'paralysis'....
There IS nothing for the US to do
GEORGIA ATTACKED !
The Georgians started this because they thought we'd back them up
Remember the Argentine junta and the Falklands ?

The Bush Admin is trying to push NATO into the Warsaw pact area and now into the 'ex-Soviet empire'

That's stupid. but typical Bush/Republican
The Bush Admin is trying to install anti-missile rockets in ex-Warsaw pact Czech Republic and Poland
These are extremely provocative moves

You can't do ANYTHING about Gerogia !!
Would NATO have been more secure had Gerogia already been part of it ?
We'd be obligated to support an unstable state in an unstable area

Foreign policy shouldn't be a test of the highest testerone levles

Maybe McCain is not qualified to be President

John McCain, Endless War
75% of all  income gains during bush administration that have gone to top 1 % of earners.
John Lemaster: "No one will answer. Did McCain really have an affair and leave his wife."

I'll answer. Yes, he did. Actually from what I understand, he admitted several if not more affairs.
75% of all  income gains during bush administration that have gone to top 1 % of earners.
Ever give a .357 to a 4 year old?  McCain is a careless old elitist that given enough power would be just that troubling.  I'm a vet and served as long as Sen. McCain who has had everything served up pretty nicely in his life except in one of those careless moments he became a POW...cudos for surviving.  I'm voting for solid judgement and understanding...Obama.  Check out McCains bio and record, including Annapolis.  He's a careless man.  Beware.
Jeezzzz, I saw the news over the weekend and Obama was being stalked by the paparazzi playing golf. Give it a rest! Can the man have some peace and quiet with his family?

You guys go around stalking his every move, then paint him as a celebrity! Give the man a break. I didn't see McSurge in the news with his "Sunday" off.

The media makes this mess then blames Obama for the end results. **pitiful**
"And during the commercial breaks, we saw plenty of those Obama-is-the-biggest-celebrity-in-world TV ads hitting the presumptive Democratic nominee. But almost every other TV ad we saw -- whether it was from Audi, Coke, or the now foreign-owned Anheuser-Busch -- was positive and upbeat. Just asking: Are McCain’s ads tonally off for the Olympics?"
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I had the exact same thought when one of John McCain's LIE FILLED ads came on during the Olympics - it felt like a slap in the face. But I guess some folks like that kind of thing, right?
I guess I'm way behind times here, but I just read an article about Carol McCain (McJerk's first wife) and his dispicable treatment of her after all she had been through and his womanizing. How dare they call this guy a hero - he's just self-centered, gold-digging scum. They should post portraits of Carol everywhere to remind people of what a low-class piece of trash this guy is.  
Yes, it is true that John McCain had affairs on his first wife I think that he admitted that in his autobiography.  Check out his biography on Wikopedia.  It doesn't come right out and say he had an affair but it gives you a time line of when his marriage ended and that just 1 1/2 months after his divorce was final he married the wealthy and much younger Cindy.  There is lots of information on the web about John McCain's early life.  Check it out and then make a decision if this is the man that you want to be our next president.  
MK,MO: No one will answer.  Did McCain realy have an affair and leave his wife.

I thought you libbies we're tired of talking about this stuff? Apparently not.

So do you still trust John Edwards? Would you still like him to be AG? Do you think he'll lie to you as easily as he lies to his cancer ridden wife?
Negative or positive - which direction do you want for the country?  

McCain -  negative campaign.  
Obama - positive campaign.
McCain - providing false information to America like the Bush Administration.  (Bush on Iraq.  McCain on Obama)
I had the exact same thought when one of John McCain's LIE FILLED ads came on during the Olympics - it felt like a slap in the face. But I guess some folks like that kind of thing, right?

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I don't know. Why don't you ask Edwards mistress.
This ad war is getting rediculous.  
Here I am trying to enjoy the olympics and all I see is McCain's stupid negative ads.  Obama's ad was positive and forward thinking.  

At this point Nov can't get here fast enough!
You are truly some of worst reporters I have ever encountered.  Any attempted link between the events in Georgia and the Cuban missle crisis shows a complete and utter failure to understand history.  Let's try to be a little more accurate and a little less sensational.  Russia is slapping down an unruly child who got out of line. W looked into Putin's eyes and saw a good man, he called Georgia a beakon on democracy.   More examples of why we need a change from this McSame regime.


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