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Russian troops move toward Gori

Posted: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 1:22 PM by Domenico Montanaro
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From NBC's Jim Miklaszewski
U.S. officials tell NBC News that between 8 a.m. and 10 a.m. ET today, there was a movement of Russian Forces from Ossetia toward the vicinity of Gori, but no indication of any engagement with Georgian military or civilians.

"We were trying to figure out what they [Russians] were up to, and still havent," one official said.

The officials could not immediately confirm reports the Russians had turned back north to Ossetia. At this hour, the officials see no evidence of any Russian offensive operations anywhere inside Georgia.

As of early this morning, U.S. military and intelligence officials reported that Russian forces had withdrawn back into Ossetia, there were no Russians in the vicinity of Gori and no Russian warplanes engaged in any bombing strikes.

"That was right early this morning," an official said, "but later that all changed." 

Humanitarian aid
A U.S. Air Force C-17 loaded with humanitarian aid is on its way, and, in fact, may already have landed at Tsblisi today. A second flight is already scheduled for tomorrow. The huge cargo plane from Landstuhl, Germany is carrying water, medical supplies, bedding, tents, etc. 

The U.S. will also send a military assessment team, comprised of about a dozen
military and possibly civilians aid workers to consult with Georgian and U.S. embassy officials in Tsblisi and assess for themselves the level of kind of
humanitarian that may be needed.

Pentagon officials say no apparent decisions have been made regarding any Naval forces that may be deployed to assist in the humanitarian effort. While the Navy hospital ship COMFORT comes immediately to mind, Navy officials say it is at least a month away from reaching Georgia.

The U.S. military did inform the Russians of the humanitarian flight in advance to avoid any misunderstandings and possible inflight confrontation.

U.S. Navy officials later said the only ship under consideration to send to Georgia to provide humanitarian relief is, in fact, the Navy's hospital ship USS COMFORT. Problem is, the COMFORT is currently in port at Baltimore, and it would take at least a month to get her underway and to Georgia.

The officials say no deployment orders have been issued yet, but that administration officials appear determined to send the COMFORT, regardless of the time lapse, "as a show of solidarity with Georgia."

There is no consideration of sending any other Navy ships to Georgia.  A treaty
prohibits "heavy warships" from entering the Black Sea, which would rule out
an aircraft carrier or amphibious helicopter carrier that would be the most useful in delivering and distributing humanitarian aid.

NBC's Libby Leist adds the details of U.S. Humanitarian Aid to Georgia -- provided by the State Department:
- USAID provided initial $250,000 for emergency relief supplies in the days immediate following start of conflict

- $1.2 million in disaster packages -- including basic medical supplies, tents, blankets, bedding, hygiene items, clothing, beds, and cots.

- A EUCOM C-17 plane carrying medical supplies will be arriving in Tbilisi this evening. Another C-17 will arrive in Tbilisi tomorrow with additional supplies, including 104,000 doses of antibiotics specifically requested by the Georgian Ministry of Health. The value of these two shipments is approximately $1.28 million.

- The State Department is also sending 104,000 doses of antibiotics via commercial air in response to request from the Georgian Minister of Health. This medicine (valued at $420,000) will arrive in Tbilisi by Saturday, August 16.

- The State Department is supporting the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) which is preparing to send a team of surgeons to Georgia to help treat victims of the conflict in South Ossetia. ICRC plans to fly in 15 tons of water treatment equipment and medical aid. The supplies will provide clean water for 20,000 people and medicine for about 400 wounded.

- State is also supporting the UN High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR), which is moving stocks from one of its emergency warehouses in Dubai; 21,000 blankets, 1,850 tents, and 8,000 jerry cans should arrive in Tbilisi today. UNHCR also purchased locally emergency supplies ($250,000).

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This is disturbing news . . .

John McCain may have to go on a hunger strike in support of "sweet lil' Georgia - the Christian Democracy" to get some attention.

Or maybe he could just lay in front of a Russian tank or something. That will show 'em.
"Russian Troops Move ...."

And this is George Bush's fault. And John McCain voted with Bush 95% of the time. And we need a leader the world respects. And my taxes are too low. And Barack Obama is the best. And if we knew how to use tire gauges life would be grand. And Global Warming is Bush's fault and John McCain voted 95% with Bush to make sure Global Warming happened.

There libs, is it all covered?
I'm actually impressed with initiatives Bush is taking in the Georgia/Russia conflict.  What he's attempting needs delicacy and pray God doesn't hit a glich, because the potential for a big problem's there, especially with the naval forces.  Coordination with Putin is going to be vital.  Oh yea Vote Obama!
McLame preparing to attack Russia.
Republicans and miltary men on John McCain
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdJUCU1UH2w&eurl

McDumb As Bush
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsiADdmoh3E&eurl

Republicans Praise for Obama
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFA3_vfctSg&eurl



All this is  all happening after the French brokered a peace plan? Trouble is, the only peace plan the French know how to achieve is by providing an unconditional surrender. And that's why the French like Barack Obama, he's so much like them.
3....2....1..... Left wing liberals start blameing George Bush and John McCain for this NOW....
You know what After The US invaded Iraq on the basis of a LIE. I dont see how we can talk about or tell anyone else that they should not invade another country. We cant pretend that we have this holy ground to stand on and point fingers at anyone else. So to hear McBush/Cheney talk all that junk about us all being Georgians and all the tuff talk from Bush I can only say this. In the words of Keith Olberman, after seeing President  Lil Bush holding the American Flag backwards for the world to see. That from his position everything looked ok with the picture.
 According to Sean Hannity of the "fair and balanced" Fox News Channel the majestic John Mccain should be allowed "a pass" on his extramarital affairs because of his mental instability caused by being shot down and imprisoned in Vietnam, maybe if the underachieving Mr. Mccain would have paid attention in the Naval Academy he would not have been picked off so easily by the enemy, and would not have finished dead last in his class. If it were not for the string pulling of his father and grandfather (both 3 star admirals in the Navy) he would not have been allowed to become a pilot because of his abysmal performance. So I guess that's why the media gives Mr. Mccain a free pass on his lying, flip flopping and general problems dealing with reality, because he's nut's, I must say with a tear in my eye how proud I am of the media for their compassionate treatment of the mentally challenged old dude, way to go guys.
WHAT?    You mean the Russians didn't listen to what Obama told them?  

2 planes in 2 days to country....No planes, ships, or aid for 4 days to the Gulf Coast...nice to see where the priorites lie.
“We were trying to figure out what they [Russians] were up to, and still havent," one official said.
Lol: they want to regain power to keep their oil and gas everyone knows that. PM Putin is not very happy with Bush/Cheney /duel personality McCain’s lobbyist urging Georgia to strike first.

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At least Obama’s ad  is not a hoax or lie.
BTW: Why didn’t the desperado (bandit trying the Whitehouse) oops, I mean the (possibly undiagnosed Alzheimer’s) maverick show up for the crucial vote on July 30th for the renewable energy bill? Did lobbying for Georgia ring a bell in his absent mind?


nobody but Obama
Dont worry Georgia.
McCain, Lieberman, Graham and Condi are on the way.

If we were not in 2 wars and havent wasted time we could actually had sen this coming.
Just one more reason why we need someone with a big brain in office who understands DIPLOMACY

OBAMA/BIDEN, CLARKE OR HAGEL
Obama Adviser: McCain May Have Made Georgia Situation Worse

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/13/obama-adviser-mccain-may_n_118640.html
Maybe the Russians are looking for WMD, or a link with Al Quaeda.  Seriously, though, it's a bad situation, and all we can do right now is send in humanitarian aid. Because Bush looked into Putin's eyes and saw no problem, he's been asleep at the wheel as far as Russia goes, though, for once, Cheney's been right to keep pointing out how untrustworthy and evil they are.  I guess it takes one to know one.
Think for a moment how the US would respond if Mexico crossed the border to protect ethnic Mexicans in south Texas.

Now think how the US would respond if its citizens on the Mexican side of the border were endangered by actions taken by the Mexican military.

I know we have strategic interests in Georgia, having to do with energy and promoting stability in a country which borders Iran.  But how far is the US willing to take this?

I agree with Obama's response to this issue -- that BOTH sides need to stand down and find an alternative means to solve their problems.  If we don't start advocating for that now, who knows where the next flare-up will be and how US forces will be dragged into the conflict?

http://ilfamilypolitics.blogspot.com
I wonder if people in Darfur could have used water treatment, antibiotics, cots, etc?

Don't get me wrong. I'm glad the people in Georgia and South Ossetia are getting this stuff. But a cynical side of me wonders if we would have bothered if Georgia 1) didn't have an oil pipeline or 2) a connection to politicians from the same party as the current commander in chief.

And to get really cynical, we could wonder if the response would be so rapid if that president's party wasn't running a candidate to succeed him who decided to exploit this violence for the opportunity to show off his toughness and experience (aka stupidity and Wikipedia skills).
FR -- How has Turkey responded to this?  It would be interesting to hear more about Georgia's neighbors and regional response to the conflict.  

That would be a good way to put the US strategy in better context.

http://midwestmoms.blogspot.com
just heard on the radio that Obama issued a statement that the way to solve this crisis is to publish the Russian soldier death numbers. Now, that's a big deterant, isn't it?  What a joke!
So if the Russins move towards Gori does this McCain will be sending our sons and daughters over there to take on the Russins. The man of big talk who has nothing to back up his big talk. Amazing how some voters buy into his macho BS. Talk tough and oh boy, we trust him more with our foreign policy issues. These people have no clue just hjow much more damage Mccain would add to the damage thatBush has already brought to this country's foreign policy stsus in the world. By the way, I see that it was the French President who was meeting with Putin to seek some kind of cease fire and peace accord with Georgia. Where was Bush - at the Olympics. Where is MCCain? Back in the U.S. blowing steam and threatening Russia. Where was Obama? Condemning the Russian agression while calling for cease fire / peace talks that his friend the French President has been performing and with some apparent success.

If McCain had been President we would have troops facing the Russians just 50 miles outside Gori now. Obama would be sitting next to Putin and getting his agreement to back off.
Well, George Bush- because of you and the GOP, we have no leadership standing in the world,

The United States of America is no longer the leading superpower.  

No other foreign country will adhere to our demands or suggestion - because as long as a Republican is our President and our military might is weakened by an unjust war...why should they.

Russia has no reason to fear U.S. and now they can dominate the region -so next to a nuclear war and the destruction of humanity– we can’t do crap about it.

Thank you and GOD BLESS AMERICA
Hey... no "FIRST READ" Thoughts on the President of Georgia calling on McCain to transform his words into deeds?!! Will McCain offer to send troops to Georgia? Someone please ask him!
Did they send any of that aid to the poor people of South Ossetia? They were the ones that were attacked by Georgia first! Amazing how fast they got to Europe but couldn't help the people of Katrina. Next time let the military handle the emergency situations and leave the Homeland Security guys at home!
Here is one of McShames money people

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3AEk0HqMtc
They are outfitting Condi with her own M-16 and a lot of smoke grenades, the gun is for show and the smoke is going up our ***.
WE ARE WATCHING AN ADMINISTRATION THAT FINALLY UNDERSTANDS WHAT OVEREXTENED REALLY MEANS.
Can we say " look to Vlads soul, we need a
re-evaluation stat, Condi apply pressure here, here and here, what do you mean 'you only have two hands',
I need a three handed person, I can't do this all by myself, where's Dick, somebody get Dick out of Platos cave, Help me Momma, Oh Daddy, what did I get myself into".
AND WE ASK OURSELVES WHY SO MANY REPUBS ARE NOT ATTENDING THE CONVENTION THIS YEAR!
Same old, same old for Mr. Obama. That's all Obama can do is point fingers and blame others. When you ask him for his plan though, he mumbles something about raising taxes, sending out rebate checks, and introducing courses on how to use a tire gauge.  What a pathetic piece of work Obama has become.
Whipper Snapper (Sent Wednesday, August 13, 2008 12:45 PM) (previous thread)

Oh, baby, how wrong you are.  Here, for example, is what Senator Obama’s energy and environment policy will REALLY do:  
• Provide short-term relief to American families facing pain at the pump
• Help create five million new jobs by strategically investing $150 billion over the next ten years to catalyze private efforts to build a clean energy future.
• Within 10 years save more oil than we currently import from the Middle East and Venezuela combined.
• Put 1 million Plug-In Hybrid cars -- cars that can get up to 150 miles per gallon -- on the road by 2015, cars that we will work to make sure are built here in America.
• Ensure 10 percent of our electricity comes from renewable sources by 2012, and 25 percent by 2025.
• Implement an economy-wide cap-and-trade program to reduce greenhouse gas emissions 80 percent by 2050.

Here, Whipper, why don't you read all about it:  

http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/newenergy

Or maybe you’re not old enough to read.  You sure act like you’re not.  

Obama/Biden 08/12
I thought President McCain had put an end to this. What happened?
Here it is guys. The chance to suit up and go fight for what is right instead if just being a computer bound cheeleader. Kenn? Jerry? Dave? Guys?
Putin Says

the leader of Georgia was
1. Sponsoring terrorism
2. Ethnically cleansing
3. Genocide
4. Provoked Russia by firing first
5. Could possibly be lookiing for yellow cake in Nigier (just kidding about this one)


Where have we heard all of this before. We have set a terrible precedent for international diplomacy, and now we are reaping the harvest
I remember a movie called "The Russians Are Coming. The Russians Are Coming" and a line from an early Dylan song "I was taught to hate the Russians all of my life." And so the story goes .....
Quick, Obama!  Better rush in and fix this!  All you need to do is talk to these people, right?  
MSNBC Why are you lagging behind Yahoo News. They have a story up on their front page fromt the AP about McCain's Lobbyist ties to Georgia. Do your work please....
Off the subject but is the new Barack Obama book called "Obama Nation" or "Abomination?"
Bush still has a few months to blow us all up.  And you thought that the Bush presidency could never get any worse!  He'll prove you wrong.
Think for a moment how the US would respond if Mexico crossed the border to protect ethnic Mexicans in south Texas.

Now think how the US would respond if its citizens on the Mexican side of the border were endangered by actions taken by the Mexican military.


DON'T MESS with TEXAS !  We will take them out ourselves ! We have had it with them already ! Any excuse will do !
3....2....1..... Left wing liberals start blameing George Bush and John McCain for this NOW....
                  What_you_Selling
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Instead of trying to be "cute", why don't you enlighten us as to what wonderful things George has done for our country the last 8 years and what we can expect from McCain for the next 4.......oh, that's right, more of the same. You Repubs are always quick to blame with NOTHING to back up your support. Here's your chance.
Quick, Obama!  Better rush in and fix this!  All you need to do is talk to these people, right?  
Joe Six-Pack (
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Quick, Joe Six-Pack!  Better rush in and think of your own witty quip instead of regurgetating the same tired line over and over.
I guess since obama can walk on water, make water into wine, send sworms of locusts, and cause the death of first borns, he can tell the Russians to stop being bad and they will.
Georgian president Mikheil Saakashvili is on to John McCain's games.

Despite the fact that Saakashvili has quite a bit on his mind this week, the leader of the former Soviet state that has been invaded by Russian forces was able to cut through the Republican presidential candidate's rhetoric and get to the heart of the matter: While McCain will say just about anything to get a headline, the Arizona senator is not exactly known for following through -- or even for remembering what he has said.

It is no secret in Washington that McCain has throughout his career in the House and Senate been willing to pontificate -- often at great length -- on topics with which he is entirely unfamiliar. Aides recount stories of times when the senator has agreed to do interviews without even asking what they were about.

McCain's accessibility and charm get him passes from reporters and fellow senators, who rarely hold him to account.

But Saakashvili is taking McCain's statements rather more seriously than Americans do.

McCain told a crowd in Pennsylvania Tuesday that he had spoken with the embattled Georgian, telling the president: "Today, we are all Georgians."

Saakashvili's response: "Yesterday, I heard Sen. McCain say, ‘We are all Georgians now.' Well, very nice, you know, very cheering for us to hear that, but OK, it's time to pass from this. From words to deeds."

The deed Saakashvili would prefer is a move by the United States to take the lead in installing an international peacekeeping force.

"We should realize what is at stake here for Americans," Saakashvili told CNN. "America is losing the whole region."

Of course, if McCain were to propose such a move, he would open a whole new debate about reopening the Cold War -- or perhaps something a bit hotter -- and it is unlikely that American voters, already wary about our foreign entanglements, would be very enthused about a perilous mission in The Caucasus.

So Saakashvili should probably be satisfied with the words he has gotten from John McCain.

That may by unsettling. But Saakashvili can comfort himself with the recognition that, of late, this is all McCain has been giving Americans.
Jeez, would you selfish tax-whiners quit trying to paint all liberals with the same broad strokes?  I consider myself a liberal (albeit a pragmatic one), and you're wrong about my ideas and opinions at least half the time you say something about "you liberals think this..."  You are revealing a basic ignorance when you do that.  There are a few radicals on the far left, just as there are a few radicals on the far right.  Gotta have 'em to keep the ideas alive and push the agendas.  Most "liberals" simply want more justice, compassion, and fairness than most "conservatives" do.  Humanity is slowly evolving toward such a world, but some people who call themselves "conservative" seem to pine for the good ol' middle ages. You are fighting an ultimately losing battle.
Libs are not people too (Sent Wednesday, August 13, 2008 1:46 PM)

Give it a break Libs:

Yes, part of this is Bush's fault for not building a decent relationship with Russia while playing the agressor in the middle east. It does not take much common sense to understand that with someone like Putin in charge who wants Russia to be a world power once again you don't give the guy excuses to invade other countries by doing so yourself because of a false report of WMDs. Where is Bush's integrity when calling for Putin and the Russins to back off after invading Iraq and seeing thousands of Iraqis killed. Putin himself made such a comment to partly express and justify his disgust with Bush. We invade and try to nation build in the middle east then criticize Russia for invading and nation building in another part of the world.

Not covered yet Lib. For now we have McCain sabre rattling and condemining the Russians while promoting a policy that keeps U.S. troops in Iraq for 200 years. Oh, but Mccain has backed off and now says we would withdraw earlier? So which comment/position do you think that Putin and Russia heard and uses to justify his and his county's movements. The 200 year comment by Mccain or the withdraw in 6 months possibility comment by Mccain? I'll give you a guess.

Because our troops are either dead or still being maintained in Iraq you asshole don't you think that raises the confidence level a bit for Putin and Russia to spread their wings a bit? Of course Bush has a hand in this latest agression by Russia. What do they have to fear? The likes of a jerk watching the Olympics while Georgians die at the hands of the Russians and another sabre rattler threatening Russia here at home (McCain) and who can't back up that macho talk because he wants our troops in Iraq for the next 200 years?  

Wake up Lib. Yes we can blame Bush partly for the Russian agression and we can most liklely even blame you for having voted for idiot Bush in the first place. Now you are ready and willing to vote for McCain no doubt so the sons and daughters of your neighbors and friends can be sent to the Russian front. Remeber, we have to fight them over there so we don't have to fight them here. The Russians are coming! The Russians are coming!
The probability that the Georgian government attacked South Ossetia without the at least tacit approval of the United States is fairly small.  The military strike, which apparently caused many casualties and much damage to property had all of the earmarks of the Bush/Cheney Administration in its utter stupidity.  The Georgian government now is as utterly discredited as Saddam Hussein was after his outster from Kuwait.
To the likes of Lawrence Keys, Boma and Joe Six Pack....more like a Joe 12 pack...

What a bunch of hacks. I suppose McCain has a good idea about how to handle this crisis? Not likely since he is having trouble pronouncing the name of Georgia's president. I'm sure the ole "straight talker" (straight liar) is already posturing for his "next war". The Republicans don't have a clue how to handle anything diplomatically anymore. All you know is WAR, and THREATS! Obama could fix this mess, but idiots like Bush and McCan't would just be out there bashing him for even trying.

Get used to the fact that Obama will be your next Potus! No matter what you say or do, he will be President. It's a simple as that, so GET USED TO IT!

Morons!
Julia Kelly, Illinois, Your analogy is incorrect.  Georgia did not invade Russia.  South Ossetia is part of Georgia.  

Anna Molly I too have read many works of fiction.  Just because it is on a web site does not mean it will happen.  

The - Democrat Soldier At what point could the west compete with Russia using conventional weapons?  All through the cold war the US forces in West Germany were a trip-wire.  The scenario was always an escalation to nuclear weapons.  That's what the deterrence was....Mutually Assured Destruction.
CA - (2:16 PM) You are naive to the max, man.
I wouldn't want to be flying those transport planes.  Given the bizarre and erratic statements coming from the Georgian leadership, I wouldn't put it past them to shoot one down and blame the Russians.

Joe Six-Pack, so when do you want to start bombing? Now remember this is not Iraq. The Russians have bomber, ICBMs and submarines.  Why dont you run down and enlist and volunteer to be the first to parachute in.
Everyone attacking Obama for wanting to talk:


Please realize that countries can negotiate in other ways than bombing and invading one another.


But really, please, go thump your chest and invade more. I don't want to do that, but if you do, go enlist. Take care of it yourself, jus' like a reaulh mahnn.
Joe Six-Pack (Sent Wednesday, August 13, 2008 2:41 PM)

Any suggestions Joe? How about we send those between the ages of 18 and 26 from your neihborhood to the Russian front. Think your neighbors would go for that? Hey, we could have McCain lead the way in his plane.
CA - (2:16 PM) You are naive to the max, man.
Full Moon (Sent Wednesday, August 13, 2008 3:16 PM)

Full Moon:

Thanks.

By the way Full Moon. Ever spend any time in combat?


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