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Obama camp defends tax plan

Posted: Thursday, August 14, 2008 4:32 PM by Mark Murray
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From NBC/NJ's Athena Jones and NBC's Alex Wall
The Obama campaign held a conference call today to draw attention the Illinois senator’s tax plan and to “set the record straight” regarding what it called false, misleading, and inaccurate representations about his proposals by his rival.

Former Treasury Secretary Lawrence Summers, economic policy director Jason Furman, and senior economic adviser Austan Goolsbee (who sparked controversy last spring, when reports surfaced that he had downplayed Obama’s plans to renegotiate NAFTA), took part in the roughly half hour call, which revealed new details on capital gains and dividend tax rates for the wealthy.

Furman and Goolsbee published an op-ed on Obama’s plan in today’s Wall Street Journal, which sought to communicate a message the campaign has repeated over and over again -- that Obama’s plan is better for middle-class families, while McCain’s favors big corporations and the wealthy. The campaign launched a new Web site today with details of the plan, comparisons with McCain’s proposals, and rebuttals to what the site calls the “baseless claims” that the presumptive Democratic nominee would dramatically raise tax rates.

While McCain's campaign has said that an Obama Administration would mean higher taxes, Furman said that Obama's plan would amount to an overall net tax decrease and would reduce taxes for middle-class families to a level that is lower than it was during the Reagan Administration. Obama would pay for it by cutting spending -- by ending the Iraq war, limiting payments for high-income farmers, and eliminating other wasteful and unnecessary programs and payments. Furman said that by the fourth year of an Obama Administration, their “very conservative” budget projection shows savings of $90 billion from ending the war in Iraq.

Summers said Republicans were recycling old arguments that Democrats’ tax plans would harm the economy, which did not prove true during the 1990s, a time of great economic expansion. He criticized McCain for proposing a large tax cut -- $3.4 trillion of tax cuts over 10 years -- without paying for it, and said Obama’s plan was more equitable and more fiscally responsible. “There’s nothing approaching a description of spending cuts that will finance this deficit and that means you’re gonna have to pay for those tax cuts in the future with higher tax rates,” he said.

Obama would roll back a portion of the Bush tax cuts for families making more than $250,000 and would “leave their tax rates at or below where they were in the 1990s,” Furman and Goolsbee said in their op-ed. That would put the top two income-tax brackets at 36% and 39.6%.

“Barack Obama's plan would cut taxes for middle class families, and when you take the entire tax proposal as a whole, would cut taxes as a whole to less than 18.2% of GDP,” Furman said.  “That's lower than the level of taxes when Ronald Reagan was president.”

When asked about claims that Obama voted for raising taxes on lower income families, Furman called the McCain campaign’s argument “completely false.”

“The McCain campaign is relying on a vote for a Baucus amendment to the budget resolution that John McCain voted for as well,” Furman said. “Organizations like the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget said [the amendment] was not a tax increase and that would have in fact cut taxes on middle class families."

The wall Street Journal op-ed included, for the first time, specific details on capital gains and dividend rates that Obama proposes for these families. The top capital-gains rate would be 20% and the tax rate on dividends would also be 20%. Goolsbee said a capital gains rate of 20% would be almost a third lower than the rate Reagan set in 1986 and that the dividend rate would be lower than the vast majority of the years that dividends have been taxed.

Furman said that while Obama would not raise taxes for families making less than $250,000, McCain could not make the same point, because he proposes taxing families for the health care their employers provide -- a plan Obama’s advisers say would “impose a $3.6 trillion tax increase over 10 years on workers” since the Arizona senator’s proposed health care tax credits likely would not cover the tax increases resulting from his plan.

The advisers said any changes to Social Security -- Obama proposes calling on those making over $250,000 to contribute 2% to 4% more -- would not be phased in for another decade.

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I dont see why seniors not paying taxes is a wrong thing.  These are the same are the same people who said his plan was good and now they are saying its bad.  Please

Obama Counter Swift-Boat Strategy…TEAR THEM APART, GRRR
http://sensico.wordpress.com/2008/08/14/obama-counter-swift-boat-strategytear-them-apart-grrr/
or http://sensico2.blogspot.com/2008/07/my-blogs.html
I hope FIRST READ will do a fact check on this.  Obama's advisors have been known to stretch the facts sometimes.  Notice they mention what would be saved from the Iraq War.  What's the Afghnistan War going to cost us?  Is that in the budget.  And, what will his budget be?  Will it be balanced?  Don't know how it could be with all his proposed new spending.  What they're saying here is they'll cover the tax cuts. It doesn't say how he will balance the budget.
...and said Obama’s plan was more equitable and more fiscally responsible.
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As things currently stand, my kid's allowance and piggy bank are more equitable and fiscally responsible than Bushy McSpends-a-lot.  While I think that Obama has the better plan, I would also argue that McCain can't do much worse than the current administration.

http://thepajamapundit.com/
The President cannot raise or lower taxes.

Congress can.

their “very conservative” budget projection shows savings of $90 billion from ending the war in Iraq.
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Note to John McCain:  Wars not only cost lives, they cost money.  Senator McCain is bouncing around looking to start trouble somewhere in the world- yet he refuses to acknowledge that the current administration's philosophy of going to war while simultaneously cutting taxes has us entrenched in the worst economic crisis in decades.

We can't keep going to China for handouts, Senator McCain.  If you want war- pay for it up front.    
Rock on!!  Now where is the TV add setting the record straight for the MSM to run 300 times tonight!!!  

I'm hoping BHO is saving his money to bury McSame after labor day when he's wasted all his funds on celeb ads.

Obama/Maddow 08
From another post:  Why does McCain continuously underestimate the American people?
Amy B Portland, ME (Sent Thursday, August 14, 2008 12:12 PM)

Maybe, Amy, because he reads what the Obamatots write on this blog.  He sees good little robots following along with no brain of their own, who will believe whatever the ANNOITED ONE tells them. So, maybe, they'll fall for anything!
This report fails to mention the fact that numerous, non-partisan, independent groups have supported the Obama campaign's contention that McCain is lying about Obama's plans and about his record.  This is so typical of newsreporting.  You have become so afraid of being called biased by the likes of Limbaugh and Coulter that you frame the facts as if they were just one campaign's opinion.  The facts are supported by independent analyses, not just Obama campaign statements.  The fact is that McCain is lying and he's doing it to try to play the typical game of scaring people.
I read the book called Obamanomics. It is great and his vision is the only way that our country can recover from the Bush ficasco. Let's all support a genuis who says that Main Street has to do well before Wall Street can do well. Also did you know that WAl-Mart is going to spend 100 million on ads against Obama because he supports the minimum wage going up? I will never shop Wal-Mart again.
The President cannot raise or lower taxes.

Congress can.


The Truth (Sent Thursday, August 14, 2008 4:43 PM)

Oh, but that's won't be a problem, Truth.  Remember the Key Master Obama will have complete control over everything.  EVERYBODY will do what he says to do.  That's how it works when you have a SOCIALIST DICTATOR for a leader.
The President cannot raise or lower taxes.

Congress can.


The Truth (Sent Thursday, August 14, 2008 4:43 PM)

That maybe true but no one can deny the president can influence the congress drastically on what decisions they make
Hey, Daily:

Grow a brain.
Good to see the Obama campaign pushing back on this - the American people should be able to make their decision based on truth, not more lies (another simililarity with GWB).
"This is so typical of newsreporting.  You have become so afraid of being called biased by the likes of Limbaugh and Coulter that you frame the facts as if they were just one campaign's opinion.  "
- Jeremy, Iowa City, IA
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You are SO RIGHT! :)
MCCAIN and HIS  advisors have been known to stretch the facts. Just look at factcheck.org

As Rick Davis, MCCAIN's campaign manager said, "It's not necessary, however, for a smear to be true to be effective."


[From another post:  Why does McCain continuously underestimate the American people?
Amy B Portland, ME (Sent Thursday, August 14, 2008 12:12 PM)

Maybe, Amy, because he reads what the Obamatots write on this blog.  He sees good little robots following along with no brain of their own, who will believe whatever the ANNOITED ONE tells them. So, maybe, they'll fall for anything!
Obama: CHANGE you can rely on DAILY (Sent Thursday, August 14, 2008 4:51 PM)]

Oh, so glad you are back, Change.  Tell me, who peed in your Cheerios today?

Why do you think you are any different supporting McDon't?  You consume and regurgitate his talking points as well.  You just don't have a cutesy name like "Obamatot".  Oh, you're clever.

Following your logic...Since we only have two choices, I'd say that I would rather have a socialist than a facist.
if you dont understand that all our wars are for oil,take a look around. mccain will fight a war for oil anytime ,anywhere. hair trigger and crazy.
Ok lets say obama does cut taxes for the middle class, where does he get the money from to fund whatever lame program he has ?  The larger corp, wealthy ?, Corp. will send the jobs overseas ans the wealthy will do the same with their money. With no jobs here a tax break won't do anyone any good !
As far as surrendering to alqaida in Iraq, ducking tail and running, and wantng fund Afghanastan..... oh wait, he won't defend America or it's people. He forgets only 18 million are drinking his tainted koolaid, NOT THE WORLD ! So telling a foreign counrty to behave and stop doing whatever genocide, country invasions ( including the US ) or anything else. I don't think they care about a whimp. He will have to grow set and let the world know we won't stand by and be bombed ( 9-11 ) and not do anything !
I am so glad to see the Obama campaign actively fighting the misdirection and downright lies of his opponents.

Keep up the fight!
IQ MATTERS.  OBAMA '08.
To MI Chick:  Right On!! - we need to start labeling  the McCainiacs and their ideas of they think is best exactly what they are:  facsists seeking another Bush-style Idiotocracy.
Maybe, Amy, because he reads what the Obamatots write on this blog.  He sees good little robots following along with no brain of their own, who will believe whatever the ANNOITED ONE tells them. So, maybe, they'll fall for anything!
Obama: CHANGE you can rely on DAILY
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Again with the standard repub strat...try and tear down your opponent to your level with absolutely no support of your own.  Why is that, by the way?  Do you republicans have so little faith in your own candidate that you cannot come up with even a simple compliment or praise?  Are you that bitter about your own party?  
Oh I get it...Obama: CHANGE you can rely on DAILY  - you're one of the bitter folks Obama mentioned.  I'd recognize your bitterness, cynicism and negativity anywhere.  A perfect shill for the gop.  I'm glad I'm not you!

Tell me, who peed in your Cheerios today? MI Chick (Sent Thursday, August 14, 2008 5:00 PM)

Nobody.  And, I wouldn't drink Obama's pee like you would.  I can tell you're way past the koolaid line.
I hope FIRST READ will do a fact check on this.  Obama's advisors have been known to stretch the facts sometimes.  Notice they mention what would be saved from the Iraq War.  What's the Afghnistan War going to cost us?  Is that in the budget.  And, what will his budget be?  Will it be balanced?  Don't know how it could be with all his proposed new spending.  What they're saying here is they'll cover the tax cuts. It doesn't say how he will balance the budget.


NObama (Sent Thursday, August 14, 2008 4:43 PM)
$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$ $$ $$$$$$ $$ $$$$$$$$$$$$
NoObama
Go to Obama Website and then fact check.org the question should be asking is why the dire cost of a needless war continue to help bankroll the war profiteers and the McCain/Bush brand of desperados.

Nobody but Obama
I'd say that I would rather have a socialist than a facist.
MI Chick (Sent Thursday, August 14, 2008 5:00 PM)

BTW, MI Chick.  Please give us the definition of facsism because if  you're calling McCain a fascist then you REALLY need to go back to government class.
So Obama supporters are mindless robots?  Uh ok.  I guess I'd rather be a mindless robot that a human who thinks killing people for oil is okay (read: anyone who votes for McCain).

If you have any morals whatsoever, you would not vote for McCain.
Now this is the type of story we want to see more of!
'Change you can rely on Daily', you have no argument why McCain is better but you do know how to spout daily, ain't america great, even your reactionary diatribe is posted.
The problem is that your anger at Senator Obama seems personal, you know something we don't. no you don't know anything he just scares you because he is smart, well-read, or is it some physical difference that bothers you?
Either way your anger needs to be attended to, see a shrink or get another hobby, your sarcasm is not even funny.
Obama: CHANGE you can rely on DAILY

Dude think about it, which one McCain over 70yrs old or Obama, needs to be changed daily?

I'd pick another name.


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