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McCain camp fires back on taxes

Posted: Thursday, August 14, 2008 4:39 PM by Mark Murray
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From NBC/NJ's Adam Aigner-Treworgy
Three McCain surrogates repeated many of the campaign’s attacks on Obama’s tax plan, including his pledge to raise taxes and his history of voting for tax increases in the Senate. The campaign criticized Obama's op-ed published today in the Wall Street Journal, saying that it is just more evidence of the Democratic candidate's "shifting" language on taxes.

There wasn’t much new information on this call, but one questioner did challenge the McCain campaign’s claim that their tax plan would be more beneficial to the middle class.

Obama’s campaign has said that their plan provides tax cuts to lower-income individuals, an assertion that the McCain campaign didn’t directly refute. In response, senior policy adviser Douglas Holtz-Eakin said that the key to John McCain’s middle-class proposals is allowing people employment opportunities, which in turn ensures that they have the opportunity to benefit from lower taxes.

“In order to pay taxes and have the opportunity to have lower taxes, you have to have a job, and John McCain’s plan is a plan which is dedicated to preserving the small businesses that have created 283,000 jobs in an economy that is struggling,” Holtz-Eakin said. “Barack Obama’s plans are plans which would damage small business in ways that are quite dramatic.”

Carly Fiorina, a McCain economic adviser and head of his Victory Fund, said that Obama’s campaign was simply being disingenuous. “Obama has also said that all of his government-mandated programs are paid for. That doesn’t make it true.”

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Sound journalistic practice requires mention of the fact that numerous independent campaign watchdogs have indicated that the McCain campaign is lying about Obama's position on taxes.  Why was this information excluded from this report?
"...key to John McCain’s middle-class proposals is allowing people employment opportunities, which in turn ensures that they have the opportunity to benefit from lower taxes."

That sounds like "get a job and work harder and harder and eventually, if you make enough money (get rich) you can pay less taxes too!"

Please.  Carly Fiorina is a joke and McCain should not be using her as an economic surrogate in his campaign.  
People making under $112,000 a year will pay less taxes under an Obama administration than they will under a McCain administration.

http://strategy08.wordpress.com
The President cannot raise or lower taxes.

Congress can.
As one who totally trashed HP's bottom line and image, Fiorina has NO room to talk about economics.
It seems to me like McCain is the only one attacking the other candidate. Interesting.

And this Presidential Election Weekly Poll says it all.
http://www.votenic.com
You Won't Believe These Results!
Obama got burned! Nice job McCain. Don't let this guy get away with his lies!
who can believe Carly Fiorina. Didn't she run HP into the ground?
"Obama’s campaign has said that their plan provides tax cuts to lower-income individuals, an assertion that the McCain campaign didn’t directly refute."
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Why not refute it? They don't get called out for lying through their teeth about everything else. They lie about Obama's tax plan, the MSM just plays the sound bite and moves on. They lie about off-shore drilling being environmentally safe, saying there were no oil spills in the gulf from Katrina when there were many; the media doesn't challenge them. They smile and lie about their negative ads, calling them 'contrast ads', and the media refuses to remind them of their pledge for a high-minded, issues-oriented campaign. They lie about McCain's support for civil rights, equal rights, energy policy, you name it. So why back off now? They're on a roll, and no one's going to call them on any of it.
See that's the deal with Obama and the rest of the Democrats, they can't talk about Raising Taxes. No, that's too negative of way of say it. Got to get Bush's name into the fray, so they have to call it 'Rolling Back Bush's Tax Cuts'. That sounds much better, but it's the same result. Not sure how far back the Democrats can take this, they'll probably be 'Rolling back the Hoover tax cuts' at some point.
LOL, Obama got burned Johnny Mac? See when you gobble up mccain camps' bs like it's gospel without researching the facts for yourself, which I know you have not, then you make yourself look as stupid they are.  John Mccain has been caught over and over lying directly to your face, yet you think Barack is lying to you?  He doesn't have to lie to you, a 5th grader could do a better job than GW and Mccain is running to do more of what bush did!  READING is fundamental
Main Street has to do well for Wall Street to do well. Obama is so much for the middle class and poor that Wal-Mart is putting in 100 million dollars to bash him. They will be running 527 ads day and night becuase they do not want minimum wage to go up. Hey people, Obama is so much for the little guy that he has the fat cats scared to death. They cannot buy him so they are trashing him. I hope the poor of this country are not afraid to vote for Obama and hope for a change for America. Go Obama
Can't cut income taxes on lower income Americans much more because they pay next to no income taxes now. That extra $200 a year will be eaten up by fuel prices increasing (Obama will do nothing about it) ten times over too. So if lower income Americans want to 'vote themselves a raise', feel free to vote for Obama.
who can believe Carly Fiorina. Didn't she run HP into the ground?
enough with the lies, Pasadena, Ca (Sent Thursday, August 14, 2008 4:50 PM)

REally? but, you will believe the Obama advisor in the previous article?  You know, the one who told the Canadians not to worry that Obama wouldn't REALLY change NAFTA.

I agree with McCain.  Our economy is struggling. Ask any economist if raising taxes on business during a recession is a sound idea.  Obama will increase taxes on small businesses. They will have to cut jobs. Who will be hit hardest inthat scenario?  The middle class!  Folks, keep dreamin, but your mother was right when she told  you that "you don't get something for nothing!"  Obama is going to drive this economy into DEPRESSION, weaken our military and increase racial tensions. Be afraid; be very afraid.
"John McCain’s plan is a plan which is dedicated to preserving the small businesses that have created 283,000 jobs in an economy that is struggling"
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Emphasis on "preserving".  So no new jobs beyond the 238,000?  Doesn't sound like much in the way of "employment opportunities".  Just trying to stop the bleeding.

And, Carly- "That doesn't make it true"?  Nice lazy rebuttal- is she even trying?  Prove it's false, then, for crying out loud.  Can't these people put an honest effort into anything?  5th grade debaters could wipe the floor with them.
Main Street has to do well for Wall Street to do well. Obama is so much for the middle class and poor that Wal-Mart is putting in 100 million dollars to bash him.

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Obama is pro-union, Walmart anti-union. Walmart has gotten to be one of the best run companies, and they somehow did it without the Unions helping them. Amazing. And Walmart does treat it employees quite well even though people like Obama keep trashing their record.

Companies like Walmart have good reasons to disagree with Obama.
"“In order to pay taxes and have the opportunity to have lower taxes, you have to have a job, and John McCain’s plan is a plan which is dedicated to preserving the small businesses that have created 283,000 jobs in an economy that is struggling,” Holtz-Eakin said."

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Good grief, First Read - how do you PRINT this stuff without comment? An "opportunity" to have lower taxes? WTF?

Translation:

Obama is right, and we are just going to keep deflecting and hope nobody notices.

Sadly, it might just work - but not on me! :)
Anyone who says George Bush tried to privatize Social Security is a liar.  Ergo, Barack Obama is a liar.

Also, his program for retirement/social security is based on fear mongering of senior citizens, pure and simple.

Not really much there either.  

I like the idea of personal accounts, though,  but individually owned, not just an IOU from Uncle Sam.  Taxes will most definitely be increased to fund it, though.
who can believe Carly Fiorina. Didn't she run HP into the ground?
enough with the lies, Pasadena, Ca (Sent Thursday, August 14, 2008 4:50 PM)


Obama, as a child, ran a Lemonade stand of his into the ground. From that day forward, he vowed never to be a producer in this country but instead went into the business of "How can I fool them today", in other words, he became a politician.
"...senior policy adviser Douglas Holtz-Eakin said that the key to John McCain’s middle-class proposals is allowing people employment opportunities, which in turn ensures that they have the opportunity to benefit from lower taxes"

McCain's plan calls for making company health care benefits taxable income! Depending on your benefits package this could actually increase your tax bracket. Is this what they call benefitting from lower taxes?
Obama is going to drive this economy into DEPRESSION, weaken our military and increase racial tensions. Be afraid; be very afraid.
NObama (Sent Thursday, August 14, 2008 4:59 PM)


Uh the economy is already in recession heading to depression and our military has already been weakened by the policies of Pres. Bush (which Sen. McCain has indicated he will continue).  How exactly will Obama increase racial tensions?  
The President cannot raise or lower taxes.

Congress can.
The Truth (Sent Thursday, August 14, 2008 4:48 PM)


Well, yeah. But who's the last guy/gal to put their signature on the bill that raises the taxes?
THE REPUBLICANS AND JOHN MCCAIN HAVE ALREADY DROVE THIS COUNTRY INTO DEPRESSION, RECESSION AND WEAKENED OUR MILITARY,

IF YOU ARE AFRAID NOW JUST WAIT UNTIL JOHN MCCAIN AND HIS HIGH POWERED LOBBYISTS WHO ONLY WORK FOR THE RICH AND FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS GET THROUGH DESTROYING OUR LIVES.
Guess what NObama - that save the corporations and they will create jobs BS is what has led to the CRAPPY economy we've got now - you know with outsourced jobs, gutted pensions and rising unemployment?

Obama is not going to drive this country into a depression - George Bush, John McCain and Phil Gramm already did it!
Maybe, Amy, because he reads what the Obamatots write on this blog.  He sees good little robots following along with no brain of their own, who will believe whatever the ANNOITED ONE tells them. So, maybe, they'll fall for anything!

Obama: CHANGE you can rely on DAILY (Sent Thursday, August 14, 2008 4:51 PM)
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kinda like the pot calling the kettle black, don't you think?  sounds exactly like what the current administration wants the entire american population to be... don't displace your actions on those of us who disagree with the drivel coming from Bush and McBomb.

on point, overall this sounds like a good fiscal policy.  The truth of the matter is if you want your government to provide services, you have to pay taxes.  i have no problem paying taxes when i know that my tax dollars are not being wasted or mismanaged.

The record deficits that we are now facing is a result of mismanagement and stupidity.  something that would continue with a person who graduated 5th from the bottom from an academy.  With Obama we would at least have an intelligent person who understands that the world isn't black and white, and is comfortable having to paint with infinite shades of grey, something bush and McBomb have no concept of. They just know how to lie and create false dichotomies.


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