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The Rick Warren Show

Posted: Friday, August 15, 2008 9:18 AM by Mark Murray

USA Today has a good preview piece of tomorrow night's forum hosted by Rick Warren.

In an interview with CBN, Warren implies that he's going to ask McCain and Obama about their past personal live issues each has had to battle. Does this mean he's going to ask about McCain's first marriage? About Obama's teenage drug use?

In addition, expect Warren to bring up gay marriage and abortion.

The Washington Post writes that young evangelicals might not be as loyal to the GOP as their parents have been. “The Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life found that while a majority of young white evangelicals describe themselves as conservative on social issues, slightly more identified this year as either independents or Democrats than as Republicans. In 2001, about the time that Merritt was working as precinct captain for the Republican Party, an overwhelming majority of young evangelicals identified with the GOP.”

Matthew 25, a liberal-leaning PAC headed by the woman who directed John Kerry’s religious outreach in 2004, holds a conference call this morning to discuss a new TV ad it will run pegged to Warren’s conference and to contrast the religious outreach efforts between the Obama and McCain campaigns.

McCain gives an in-depth interview on faith to the Chicago Tribune. The story opens with stories about how McCain relied on his faith during the POW years. "Although polling suggests voters view faith as an essential ingredient in a president, McCain has never been a candidate to invoke God or dwell on religion. ‘In our case, faith is private,’ said his wife, Cindy, adding that once voters get to know him, ‘they will know he is a man of faith.’”

“In Vietnam, McCain's fellow prisoners say their faith was a matter of life and death. ‘We knew we had to have some belief greater than ourselves,’ said Orson Swindle, a Marine captain who spent six years in captivity. The prisoners had developed a tap code system for communicating through the walls. Through that tapping, ‘we decided we needed to be all on the same sheet of music at least one time during the week,’ Swindle said.”

“The prisoners decided that every Sunday, after they had eaten their rice, the highest-ranking officer would cough loudly and say the letter 'c' for church. The prisoners would then say the Pledge of Allegiance, the Lord's Prayer and the 23rd Psalm. The psalm was said in plural: ‘Yea, though we walk through the valley of the shadow of death we will fear no evil.’”

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Just think, all while John and the others were parying, so was his first wife!
McCain's a man of faith? Like beating his wife and then marrying the rich future Cindy McCain within a week of divorsing his ex. Real family orientated isn't he. His new book doesn't even mention his children from his first wife.
Sure would LOVE to hear McCain answer a question about his first wife, how he cheated on her even though she waited for him while he was in Vietnam, even though she was sick, and how he dumped her for Cindy to get all her money.  McCain is a sleezy nasty man every evangelical should be disgusted over.  Obama is the real true Christian, and if they don't support him, then its because they are all a bunch of red necked snake worshipping racists!
In our case, faith is private,’ said his wife, Cindy, adding that once voters get to know him, ‘they will know he is a man of faith.’”


Okay, so, take it on faith that he has faith?

Surely this should not be the major issue, but McCain is a complete bullshitter and it's sorta hard to point out the one hard time in your life and then claim you have 'faith' (or even a considered spirtuality, which I doubt with him) for life.  Not convincing.
this will be exciting.  I know obama will do good at this, because he can openly talk about his religion, unlike mccain who has even lied about his religion before.

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It would be interesting to hear John McCain talk about anything that has influenced his life since his time as a POW.  His religious experience, his view of the working poor, attitudes toward affirmative action -- is there anything RECENT (the last 35 years) that he cites as informing his views?
There is a misconception about Obama being weak and/or unable to take the rough and tumble of a hotly contested political race. This same misconception applies to those questioning Obama's ability to take on a rough and tumble world regarding foreign policy. I have news for you. Obama is very capable of taking on both worlds but in a manner more like a shark then a blundering and loud water buffalo like McCain. Obama will try to remain above board in this race and in his foreign policy dealings. But I'm telling you, don't mess wit hthe guy too much. if you do there will be a large hunk taken out of your torso and you won't even know what hit you. It's there. believe me.
‘In our case, faith is private,’ said his wife, Cindy, adding that once voters get to know him, ‘they will know he is a man of faith.’”
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Kind of like "We will not see McCain run a negative campaign".  Riiiiggghhhht,...

The McCains view wealth and religion about the same.  It's really in poor taste to discuss either.  I think McCain has faith that his money and connections will annoint him the presidency, just like W in 2000.  With his war mongering and veiled threats this week, I simply don't think he has faith in G-d.  His faith is more the 'purchased' kind.  Just my opinion.
I am watching the Presidential Forum from the Saddleback Civic Forum.  How is it that Rick Warren did not make McCain answer at what income figure is a person rich.  Is it because he is so wealthy and out of touch with the real working class that he does not have a clue?  In his ads he certainly says that Obama wants to tax everyone over $42k.  An McCain's answer about the moral issue in his life.  He said the failure of his first marriage.  That makes it seem like his marriage just didn't work out.  Not that he was an adulterer!
I am so disappointed by John McCain.  What a shallow, pandering politician.  How can he sit in front of a community religious and list, as two of his three wisest people, a general (David Petraeus) and a corporate CEO (Meg Whitman)??  That just chilled me.  
I really love Rick Warren, though.
I am absolutely appalled that MSNBC dare say that John McCain received much louder & approval from the crowd. THis is ORANGE COUNTY! Is full of Republicans! You could only get a ticket in the room for $2000 each! To stand & watch it outside would cost you $500!
Who has money like that? Rich OC Republicans!
I am disappointed the the way this forum played out.
I felt that John McCain was flippant and such an obvious HAWK. It is war, war and by the way, more war. Agressive and angry. However, I wish Barach Obama had been more on his game. I did not feel this was one of his best outings. From this point foward I hope he hits McCain hard. I am personally scared to death about the Supreme Court and what will happen to our freedom and future. Not to mention we will have a very large Democratic Congress and NOTHING will happen for the next four years. Is it time to take Hillary as a running mate to insure victory?
I just don't get having a presidential forum with Rick Warren at the Saddleback Civic church and all of the faith based questioning that went along with it.  What ever happened to separation of church and state?
Sen. McCain was more effective in answering the questions.  His long experience and familiarity with the issues came across.  He was able to give more concise answers that conveyed more information.  Sen. Obama seemed very relaxed and laid-back, but he didn't provide his answers as crisply so more time was used up.  
I am disappointed in MSNBC for giving this Warren a forum to allow McCain to spout his foolishness. This was a forum made in heaven for McCain, giving him the room to pander to the religious Right without really answering any real questions. He addressed all his answers to the crowd and Warren sat there and shook his head in agreement. It made me so mad I had to leave the room. Obama gave thoughtful and measured answers, not campaign speeches, and obviously a crowd in a Baptist church in a Republican neighborhood would clap for McCain. Wealth at 5 million! I am livid!
Hold on Folks!  First of all, you should allow 'spellcheck' to review your written words!  John McCain showed great depth of character and personal faith tonight.  You think that Obama will sweep this election? - Not so.....McCain has far greater knowledge and experience....clearly evident from this program.  This was the first opportunity I had to really listen to him.  For those who were not impressed with McCain - please watch the debates (and remember to use your spellcheck!).  On that note:  I had to 'spellcheck' my own responses!!
I thought Obama did the best job answering the questions. McCain had an hour to listen to Barack's answers and make up his own answers and he [McCain} sounded like a comedian on a Las Vegas stage.


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