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And so does McCain...

Posted: Sunday, August 17, 2008 10:26 AM by Mark Murray

From NBC/NJ's Adam Aigner-Treworgy
LAKE FOREST, CA -- McCain also participated in Pastor Rick Warren's Saddleback Civil Forum on the Presidency here last evening. Appearing after Obama, McCain responded to the same set of questions, plus a few more due to his brevity. Mostly, McCain was short and to the point, although he told a few of his favorite stories to illustrate his points.

Interestingly, when asked for an example of his greatest moral failure he cited the dissolution of his first marriage. Although that was as detailed as he got, the fact that he mentioned it at all -- especially while current wife Cindy was sitting in the first row -- is notable.

"My greatest moral failing, and I have been a very imperfect person, is the failure of my first marriage. It's my greatest moral failure."

When asked for an example of a gut-wrenching decision he has had to make and how he made it, McCain cited the decision to remain in prison camp despite being offered early release. He said that his poor health at the time had made that decision very tough, but he made it with "a lot of prayer."

On the merits of flip flopping, McCain was asked for an issue that he has changed his mind on in the last ten years and he cited the issue of offshore drilling. He used his favorite tag line to resounding applause saying, "We've got to drill now and we've got to drill here and we've got to become independent on foreign oil."

On the issue of religion, McCain is notorious for his apprehension when it comes to talking about his personal faith, but today he opened up a little bit. When asked what being a Christian means to him. "[It] means I'm saved and forgiven and we're talking about the world. Our faith encompasses not just the United States of America but the world."

Then McCain told a well worn story about his experiences with a Christian Vietnamese prison guard.

On the issue of gay marriage, McCain left the door open tonight for legal civil unions -- something he has done before -- but unlike Obama, he did not elaborate on the issue. He said he was believed that marriage was between a man and a woman, but "I'm a federalist," he said, adding "that doesn't mean that people can't enter into legal agreements, that doesn't mean that they don't have the rights of all citizens."

On what "rich" meant to him, McCain joked that it meant having $5 million. But he said that rich "should be defined by a home, a good job and education and the ability to hand to our children a more prosperous and safer world."

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At best, the diversity in the crowd was slim and not readily apparent to viewers at home
I am not sure how I feel with this increasing fusion between church and state.  But I am 21st century enough to understand a man’s faith encourages his believe therefore influencing is judgement.  Still if Mrs. Clinton had been the Democratic nominee would there have been a need for the Saddleback forum?

This forum was based on the concept of a conversation between two friends.  The forum was to exemplify the personalities of the candidates in a position of stewardship and offering an insight to which candidate would you trust. However, Mr. McCain’s appeared once more has simply of another politician.

Mr. McCain had plenty of heartfelt stories but where was his vision? What is his vision for a nation instead of his stern hand for America?  It was like watching an okay student on examination day being lucky that all the questions were those that he just happened to know the answers.  I admit he was personable and he surely passed.  But he was not ‘my friend.’  I knew nothing more about him that isn’t already flooded in the media.

Mr. Obama appeared more comfortable and projected an appeal commanding the audience’s attention.  He listened to Rev. Rick, reflected on his answers without avoiding direct questions.  Why didn’t Rev. Rick stop Mr. McCain’s political stump since this was to be a conversation with his friend?  Friends talk from the heart and not through a speech.  Rev. Rick was far more engaging with Mr. Obama and was simply respectful of Mr. McCain telling more of his ‘old-man’ stories.

Mr. McCain’s weakest trait is his inability to listen or answering nuance questions.  He had prepared a steady agenda that he was determined to express, even before a question was put to him.  My friend, my friend, my friend, my friend over and over again was far less sincere and more reaching than all of Mr. Obama’s authoritative “um-well you-knows.”

Neither Senator was in his top form or perhaps it was just the nature of the forum.


This whole forum was a joke. Members of the audience paid between $500 and $2000 to attend. It wasn't a substantive issues forum--it was a fundraiser.
McCain ? What a stand up guy...... A "failed marriage" is his greatest failure. Code words for it didn't work out rather than " I left her because she became a paraplegic and I was looking for someone younger who could walk" Watching McCain last night was like watching a full hour on The Tonight Show.  If this was about revealing himself as to who he is......His Jokes got in the way. I can't really stand to watch him much, but last night worked for him
because he kept hammering his stump speech. Rick Warren did not do a good job of getting him to answer the questions. I hope that the moderators at the debates better.
Even though I am a registered Republican and a Christian, John McCain does not speak for me and many people I know.  His world view is looking backward instead of looking forward.  What most sent a shiver up my spine was his answer to which Supreme court justices he would not have put on the court.  If you want the liberties and freedoms granted to citizens in the Constitution to be gradually taken away, then McCain is your man.  While some thought his answers were swift and direct, I see them as acting before thinking.  This is what we have done for the last eight years.  Is America better off financially and politically as a result?  The majority of people have answered that emphatically as a NO!  I was even more amazed that McCain was answering questions before they were asked.  America cannot afford to stay on the path on which we currently find ourselves.  We are at a crucial crossroads in our history.  We now live in a global society and must conduct ourselves as a member of that society, not conduct ourselves as the solitary leader of that society.  If we continue to act in this manner, it will ultimately be our downfall.    
The Fix was in. How many people here believe this was the first time McCann got the questions. And the Pastor seems to allow him to speak freely but prepared to interrupt Senator Obama answers.

How many more commercial ran with Senator Obama compare to Senator McCain

McCain appeared to get to the Supreme Court question before it was even asked

Why were the questions framed different when Warren promised that they would not be.

Why is Warren asking McCain about the Republic of Georgia, he did not ask Barack these questions?

The Pastor's single intent was to afford McCain a free press while attempting to undermined Senator Obama

Senator Obama you have stop trusting everyone. The Pastor supported Bush Twice so he is clearly a man without good judge of character.


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