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Veepstakes: The time is approaching

Posted: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 9:16 AM by Mark Murray
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The New York Times triggered yesterday’s VP madness with this article: Obama
“has all but settled on his choice for a running mate and set an elaborate rollout plan for his decision, beginning with an early morning alert to supporters, perhaps as soon as Wednesday morning, aides said. Mr. Obama’s deliberations remain remarkably closely held. Aides said perhaps a half-dozen advisers were involved in the final discussions in an effort to enforce a command that Mr. Obama issued to staff members: that his decision not leak out until supporters are notified.”

More: “Mr. Obama had not notified his choice — or any of those not selected — of his decision as of late Monday, advisers said. Going into the final days, Mr. Obama was said to be focused mainly on three candidates: Senator Evan Bayh of Indiana, Gov. Tim Kaine of Virginia and Senator Joseph R. Biden Jr. of Delaware.”

Soon after came this Politico article: “Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) plans to celebrate his 72nd birthday on Aug. 29 by naming his running mate at a huge rally in the battleground state of Ohio, Republican sources said. That’s a week from this Friday, and the day after Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) accepts the Democratic nomination at a 70,000-person spectacular in a Denver stadium. The campaign has begun building a crowd of 10,000 for Dayton, Ohio, according to an organizer. McCain is scheduled to appear with his running mate at a large-scale event in Pennsylvania shortly thereafter.”

“Senior Republicans are in the dark about who he’ll name, although they say former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney and Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty are prime contenders after a trial balloon by McCain gave him very negative feedback about the idea of picking a pro-choice running mate like former Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Ridge.”

Per NBC’s Andrea Mitchell, a McCain campaign official says "no final decision" has been made about rolling out McCain's running mate on August 29 in Ohio. BUT this isn’t a hard denial.

More compiled by NBC/NJ’s Matthew E. Berger….
DEMOCRATS: Biden released a statement after his trip to Georgia, seeking $1 billion in emergency assistance for the country. “Russia’s actions in Georgia will have consequences,” he said. “Russia's failure to keep its word and withdraw troops from Georgia risks the country's standing as part of the international community. That is not the future the United States or Europe want -- but it is the future Russia may get.”

Also don’t miss this line from Biden, which seemed almost McCain-esque: "I left the country convinced that Russia’s invasion of Georgia may be the one of the most significant event to occur in Europe since the end of communism." 
 
Board seats held by the wife of Sen. Evan Bayh could raise conflict-of-interest questions for the potential veep. Susan Bayh is a director of E*Trade Financial Corp, while the senator sits on the Senate Banking Committee and for a medical research group that recently received a $24.7 million federal grant.

And combine the above piece with this Politico article rating Evan Bayh as one of Clinton's weaker surrogates.

Tom Daschle said he has turned over vetting documents to the Obama campaign but said there is no chance he will be picked. 
 
Kansas Gov. Kathleen Sebelius will campaign in four events for Obama in Iowa on Aug. 21. 
 
REPUBLICANS: Gov. Tim Pawlenty said Obama’s energy plan would “slam the door shut” on more nuclear power and offshore drilling. Campaigning for McCain in Wisconsin, Pawlenty said McCain’s plan is “bold, it’s aggressive, it’s an all-of-the-above approach.” 
 
Sen. Joe Lieberman campaigned with McCain at an Atlanta fundraiser. He praised Georgia’s two Republican senators and governor. 
 
Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal will not meet with McCain when the candidate is in Louisiana Monday night and Tuesday, the governor’s spokeswoman said.

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For Obama it better be
1- Biden
2- Clarke
3- Hagel
4- Powell
5- Clinton

Bayh and Kaine are too weak
If he takes on of them its over
Wake me up when they've finally decided.  I have money on Biden.
McCain will turn 72, and on the same day name his running mate, and then turn to Cindy and ask her to change his depends. Then he'll slap her silly because she's not doing it right because of her sprained wrist, and then turn to his running mate and ask him to do it, saying it's the new VP's duty to change him when he does his duties.
Keep this in mind all you mccain apologists...a man who will be 72 years old could be leading our nation for the next 4 years...better hope he picks a mate who can change the depends and doesn't mind wiping up some drool now and then.
>>Mr. Obama had not notified his choice — or any of those not selected — of his decision as of late Monday<<

And the world yawns.
Bill Clinton should be thrown out of the democratic party!!
A word of advise to sen Obama from the outside world, remember that sen Hillary is not a quiter and that's what you need to win this election. Besides the rest of those suggested names didn't come close to 5 million in the primaries.
Biden is the one I'm banking on. I can't wait to see him break down Romney or Pawlenty. Speaking of those two, how unlikable are they? Every time I see either one of them on TV, I just want to change the channel. Completely unlikable.

But Kaine did a good job and owned Jindal on MTP this week. His response to Karl Rove was spectacular as well.

He just doesn't have the background yet.

http://www.rodneyhopper.com
Obama
Clark
Biden
My favs for Obama but I trust him, he has had GREAT judgement so far and whomever he picks will be the right one for him t win - in an electoral LANDSLIDE
I'm done with Hillary. She is a huge disappointment. And Bill. They can ride off into the sunset now.

Biden was dressed in a black polo shirt when he showed up on camara in Georgia, just like Obama wore a black polo shirt when he talked about the invasion of Georgia in Hawaii. They wore the same color shirt, that's significant in terms of a sports analogy, yes?


McCain is the SLIMIEST Creature I have ever seen.  We cannot let this Liar win.

If you want more pain, vote for Jon McCain !



CAROLINE KENNEDY for BARACK OBAMA'S VEEP CHOICE!!!!

She's a smart, articulate, non-Washington WOMAN with the ultimate name recognition!!!

Her as this pick would have NUCLEAR BOMB effect on the McCain Campaing and put it in ruins.

OBAMA/KENNEDY-- The perfect pair for the next 8 Years, and Kennedy for the next 8 after that!!!
The man from Scranton, PA
Bill Clinton needs to take his ball and go home that
cry baby...
He can't play with the big boys anymore..

Also I'm sick of half truths and pointing fingers.
Can't imagine McCain is going to announce his Veep in Dayton, Ohio.  Dayton (Montgomery County) is definitely Obama country (unfortunately).  I'll be surprised if McCain can get a crowd of 10,000 supporters together, unless he goes way outside the county to recruit them.
Can't imagine McCain is going to announce his Veep in Dayton, Ohio.  Dayton (Montgomery County) is definitely Obama country (unfortunately).  I'll be surprised if McCain can get a crowd of 10,000 supporters together, unless he goes way outside the county to recruit them.

Obama/Clinton '08
Obama's choices for Veep are wide open. McCain has barricaded himself between a bunch of walls.

He waited too late to name his choice. Now if he does it on Friday, his birthday, which is usually the time to dump bad news, it will not have the effect of squashing Obama's convo bump.

Even his choices are problematic. Obama has a wonderful field to choose from. However, Ridge, Romney, and Pawlenty all have huge negative drawbacks for McCain.

McCain has mismanaged his veep selection.

I don't agree that Biden will undercut Obama's change platform. What a bunch of hogwash! 'Change' means get rid of the failure in Washington. Biden is a gem.
Who ever obama picks as VP will be much better than Chaney. McCain will be 72 wanting to be 45!with his terrible jokes! If he keeps it up he will loose more Republican Senators at the Convention. Davis has done him more damage than good.McCain vicious temper is starting to get out of control. Wait to Obama picks his VP McCain will come out with some negative ad to keep his dirty politics up and runnig.Do not like  this guy. OBAMA 08
McCain will have a big event in PA after naming the VP.
Will the orphan calf pick Ridge and blow everyone a kiss , or will he play safe and appease the base.
This could be the political Rubicon that shakes up everyone, but I doubt it, McCain needs his base more than anything, no Mormans and no choice candidates need apply.
A ROCK............John McCain............A HARD PLACE
Hillary is going to be McCain,s VP.McCain is already using the Clinton playbook.Bill has been helping McCain out with his Obama bashing remarks over the last couple of weeks.Carville,s wife Mary published the Obama smear book.Carville said on CNN people would be suprised by McCain,s VP pick.
I would love a TOTAL surprise...  Gore or even Caroline Kennedy...  What a hoot!  
The only tickets that make sense for THE GOOD OF THE COUNTRY and/or getting elected:

OBAMA/BIDEN
McCAIN/RIDGE
Biden, Richardson, or Sebelius.  Biden would be the best fighter for the campaign without a doubt....maybe to the point of turning some off.  I've never felt Bill Richardson was a great debater or fighter but he and Sebelius would both be good choices.  America cannot afford eight more years of republican executive misuse of power....Vote Obama!
I am thinking Biden. Actually I would be willing to put money on it!
Anyoine else tired of seeing "Just Say NO!!!"'s comments? They paste the same post in every blog!

Hey we get it, and we are all well aware he is a slimey creature!
Does anyone besides me get the feeling that, outside of the media, this VP horse race is pretty much a big yawn?

Obama needs to pick someone that does him no harm. Period.  Personally, I don't think that the Dem candidate picks a sitting Dem Senator, unless his replacement is an odds-on lock to keep the seat.

McCain needs to pick someone likely to not die of old age for the next four years.  It would help if the Repub base could live with him in the role of POTUS for a couple of years, but that is not an absolute.

Other than those minimal qualifications, I don't think that the general public much cares who is in the number two slot.
I agree with NJ that if Obama picks either Bayh or Kaine, it's over. Kaine, while I like him, is too new to the scene and will allow McCain to REALLY play the experience card against Obama. Bayh is about as exciting as vanilla ice cream,and though he has some foreign policy experience under his belt, he simply does not exude an air of "toughness." People say that he will do no harm, but he will also do no good!! Out of the three who are supposed to be on the short list, only Biden will help.
To:  Pat Huntington NY and Ralph Malph....

For your sake -- I hope you never get old!
As someone who despised the Clintons during the primaries...I think Obama should take Hillary. I'd feel a whole lot comfortable knowing Obama is keeping tabs on the Clintons rather than allow them to plot against him. Besides, if Obama were to pick Clinton, there will be no excuse why the Democratic party is not unified (I'm calling you out, PUMA schmucks). In the end, Hillary will be the running mate because she has the highest profile, and as much as I love Joe Biden, he doesn't bring much to the table. Its time that Dems stop falling for the Republican trap of National security and own the domestic issues (because its the economy that's going to win the election for the Dems).
It pains me to say Bill Clinton has cost this Country in so many ways.  As someone who was very supportive of him- I refuse to be an apologist any more.

Simply put- His Scandals- sexual and otherwise, were just enough to cost the Democrats the White House in 2000!  

His actions made it possible for the Right to play the 'family values' and 'morals' card over and over.  Gore had to distance himself from 8 years of relative peace and prosperity. (For those that doubt- if you don't think Clinton's actions swayed at least 560 people in semi-conservative Fla- your nuts)

This counrty was on a MUCH different path had Willy not become so Slick (or just wasn't found out). Lord knows how many Democratic Candidates suffered due to BC's actions as everyone ran away from him and had to start trumping their own moral virtues.  In 2000 the race (in states and the country) became more about 'values' and less about policy- and was stolen away!!!  

Fast foward 8 years and the GOP has repeatedly shot itself in the foot with their own multiple scandals- not to mention John McCain's treatment of his ex-wife.  Notice how we have heard NOTHING about Family values this time around.  Surely the GOP will go scare tactics w/ racial overtones in this cycle- the larger point though-

Bill Clinton should be doing anything and everything he can to help the Democratic nominee- he OWES it to this Country, to the people he has let down that believed in him (like me) and he owes it to himself to try and restore some shred of what should have been a very positive Legacy.

Instead he has become a bitter whiner and even reflected very poorly on Hillary's Campaign.  To me she has always been the brains of that outfit- but the fact that HE by all reports called the shots (like the 3AM ad) and she was very indecisive was very disappointing.

I'm an apologist no more for these two- they are dead to me!





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