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First thoughts: Biden walks it back

Posted: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 9:08 AM by Domenico Montanaro
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From Chuck Todd, Mark Murray, and Domenico Montanaro
*** Biden walks it back: Yesterday, all the signs pointed to the fact that Biden was emerging Obama’s likely VP pick -- until the Delaware senator quickly seemed to dash that speculation yesterday. “You guys have better things to do,” Biden told the reporters staking him out, as he was leaving his home in Delaware to play golf. "I'm not the guy." But upon his return, he appeared to walk back that denial. "I promise, I don't know anything, have no idea, have spoken to no one,” Biden said. Then asked whether he thinks he’s still being considered, he answered: "I have no idea. You guys know as well as I do. See ya, fellas." A Biden source told us not to read too much into his "I’m-not-the-guy" statement, saying he was pretending not to be Biden -- rather than stating he wasn’t going to be Obama’s VP. Also, does anyone think Biden would have been out golfing and smiling had he found out he wasn't the guy?

*** McCain’s pro-choice head fake? The McCain campaign has very adroit of late of inserting itself into the media narrative at times when the assumption that Obama was going to own a week. And with Obama’s VP selection coming up, this is one of those weeks. The focus is supposed to be ALL on Obama. Yet instead, it's become a true split-screen story now that McCain's camp is purportedly considering Lieberman or Ridge for the No. 2 slot. Could it be that McCain has no interest in picking Ridge or Lieberman, but wants the country and swing voters to think they might? Nothing like having Limbaugh and other conservatives issuing warning shots in public on this to bolster McCain's independent status. Then again, the risk of playing this game is that if McCain ends up picking Pawlenty or Romney, the spin could be he blinked in the face of conservative attacks. Still, this week, McCain's camp has once again showed how effective it is in creating just as much buzz on a story that many thought Obama would dominate by himself.

*** Just askin’: Considering how important Virginia is to Obama and his electoral strategy, does anyone think he'll step on his bus tour in the state by announcing his running mate while he’s there today and tomorrow? Wouldn’t that create havoc with his trip and allowing the VP craziness to step on his appearances with Warner (today’s companion) and Kaine (tomorrow’s)?

*** The narrowing race: Yesterday morning, Quinnipiac came out with a poll showing that McCain had cut Obama’s lead from nine points (50%-41%) to five (47%-42%). And that was followed by an LA Times/Bloomberg survey showing that Obama’s advantage had been reduced from 12 points (49% to 37%) to just two (45%-43%). There are a couple of ways to look at these numbers. The obvious one is that McCain’s negative onslaught, combined with the Russia-Georgia conflict, as well as Obama’s weeklong vacation, has narrowed this race considerably. In short, McCain has had a very good last two weeks. On the other hand, despite it all, McCain’s still behind and unable to get out of the low 40s; Obama’s numbers have gone down, but McCain’s really haven’t gone up. Nevertheless, there is no longer this widespread belief among the wise guys and gals of both parties that we're all just sitting around waiting for this race to break in Obama's direction. The polls -- as well as the money race -- suggest otherwise. The political fundamentals (the mood of the country, the enthusiasm gap, Bush’s approval rating) still favor Obama. But something has changed where (1) Obama can’t make many more mistakes and expect to win and (2) the McCain camp thinks it can win. That wasn’t the case a few months ago.

*** Poll tease time: And by the way, the national poll of record -- the NBC/Wall Street Journal poll -- comes out tonight at 6:30 pm ET. Will the numbers show a similar tightening? Something different? And just how important will Hillary Clinton’s supporters be to Obama’s success in the fall? Tune into NBC Nightly News or log on to MSNBC.com.

*** On the trail: McCain holds a town hall in Las Cruces, NM before leaving for his vacation in Sedona, AZ. Obama, in Virginia, holds economic town hall meetings in Martinsville and Lynchburg.

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Considering how important Virginia is to Obama and his electoral strategy, does anyone think he'll step on his bus tour in the state by announcing his running mate while he’s there today and tomorrow?
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Yes.  And he could name Jim Webb as his veep.  Sweeeet.

http://thepajamapundit.com/
McCain now has a 9-point edge, 49 percent to 40 percent, over Obama on the critical question of who would be the best manager of the economy -- an issue nearly half of voters said was their top concern in the November 4 presidential election.

It doesnt matter the issueObama is clearly the (much) weaker candidate in this election.  I cant believe the audacity of you far-left ideologues.  You should have nominated the stronger candidate (Clinton), but you got greedy.  I believe that we are going to start seeing the wheels come off of the Obama media-driven illusion express!
leave biden alone!!!!!!! :-)
I think this whole pro-choice VP talk for McCain was definitely a fake and he wanted to get some media attention.
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Could this be all coincidence?  With only a couple of days (at most!) to announce his choice for a running mate, Barack travels by bus this morning through Greensboro, NC; Martinsville, VA; having a Town Hall (already sold out) in Lynchburg, VA this evening.

Today is August 20.  Yesterday (August 19) barackobamadotcom posted a 30-minute YouTube video of VA Gov. Tim Kaine talking in Manassas just this past Saturday.  Watch the video and tell me whether this man could be President Obama's colleague, co-worker, and main adviser for the next eight years.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEDlUQncZbw

No matter who the running mate turns out to be, Tim Kaine outlines all the important information that we need to know right now ... especially those of us in the steamy southeast where the economy is doing a little better than in the rest of the country but people are still hurting.  Where people are hoping against hope that America can be a better place.
Congratulations Rachel Maddow on your well deserved program on MSNBC. For what it’s worth, here is my suggestion for a title:

“The MSNBC Rachel Maddow Tonight Show where Dick Cheney, Bill O’Reilly, Rush Limbaugh, Laura Ingraham, Sean Hannity, C. Krauthammer, Ann Coulter, Fred Barnes, Karl Rove, Newt Gingrich, John Gibson & Mary Matalin are not invited to set foot on my set, but Bill Moyers & Phil Donahue are. You know, normal thinking people."

Best of luck.
Interesting idea. McCain may have no intention of picking a pro-choice running mate, but is just using this to generate a little buzz. Hmmm. That's actually a little bit impressive.

Of course it does further undercut the straight-shooter perception he still holds... among those not paying attention. He's not a straight-shooter as has become readily apparent. In fact, he's become far more disingenuous than most candidates - the best knowledge and experience that can be plagiarized from Wikipedia and Russian literature.
This is getting recklessly immature...  this marketing game is starting to feel "Britney Hilton esque"

Obama is hurting himself and making his choice feel more self serving than national serving.

It's not people's impatience...it's the sense that Obama's people don't realize he is not the center of the universe (and I am the biggest Obama supporter out there) but everyone knows that Biden is the right choice for the country...as 90% of the public seems to be really supportive of that.

Yet now we have kaine acting coy for his own career moves, Bayh tryibng to ignore and continue using this repair all the mistakes he made over the past 7 years, PUMA whackos reinforcingtheir whackoness, to hillary's detriment, and his own message getting screwwwed by his campaign's need to play up the celebrity hype for "marketing purposes" of a choice that should be cut and dry when you really look at "who will be the most effective VP?"

this is looking more and more like a decision based on who is best for Obama...rather than who is best for the country.
Did we get the results from cindy mccains entry in the biker babe contest yet? This is much more valid than mindless media speculation about whether the standard bearer for the anti woman party would pick a pro choice candidate. When pigs fly.
I hope it's JOE BIDEN!!! I really didn't know who he was but during the primary debates I really liked what he had to say...and I would often said if it's not Barack I hope it's Biden. I hope Joe Biden is the VP pick!!!!
Mccain is up in a new poll...as predicted by me months ago barry is being found out for the smooth talking empty suit he is and mccain is being given a pass by the media because he was a POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW POW
"The McCain campaign has very adroit of late of inserting itself into the media narrative at times when the assumption that Obama was going to own a week."
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This is such an "insiders" statement - inserting itself into the media narrative?

I guess this is just a game like fantasy football these days, huh?

Good grief.

I guess that's why the score in the "punditocracy" is so different than the one out here in the real world . . . you all are living in a virtual reality.

Thing is if John McCain wins in your game, America loses in ours.
On polling data...

I think the folks at Real Clear Politics are onto something here...

Don't just look at McCain vs. Obama...start looking at polling data with McCain, Obama, Barr and Nader.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/obama_vs_mccain_with_barr_nader-957.html#polls
McCain will not pick a pro-choice VP. Why? He would lose more Evangelical votes than he would pick up in the moderate/independent category.  

Obama does know how to create suspense!! I've wanted Biden all along, mainly to do the VP duties of being a surrogate and hiting back.  But...that said, Obama nation will support whomever Barack picks. He does need Virginia, but he has also said that geography was not a primary criteria.  FR says that sometimes Biden drives Obama "nuts".  I doubt there is a solid foundation for that statement.  We will all know in a day or two.

Congratulations to Rachel Maddow for earning her own spot on MSNBC. An Olbemann/Maddow ticket will keep us progressive viewers.  Now the obvious question...When will MSNBC dump racist Pat Buchanan and replace Joe? Do those two things and you will have a lineup worth watching...again.
" Obama can’t make many more mistakes and expect to win "
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Huh?

What mistakes are we referring too exactly? Breathing? Talking about the issues? Raising money? Believing that the "faith forum" wasn't rigged?

Do tell.

VACATION for McCain???? What about Georgia???
Russia???

The Dems better BLAST that Old man for taking a vacation like they did to him.

And it better be Biden or Clarke.
Kaine and Bayh would be a disaster
EVERYONE thinks it's going to be Joe Biden. I still don't. I think Biden is a loose cannon....opens mouth, inserts foot too many times; although I smile when I think of him going up against McCain or anyone he picks as VP. Biden would eat them up and spit them out like bad seeds, so THAT might be fun. I still think it's going to be Wes Clark. He's been off the radar for quite awhile now. No one is talking about him, but the Convention is leading toward a veterans recognition, isn't it? Actually, it's just guessing for all of us until the official word comes from the Obama camp. It really doesn't matter to me who it is. I'm voting for Obama, not the VP choice. It'll just be interesting to see who he picks! Obama '08!
Lets see, we have a fuel crisis, inflation is up, there's a war brewing in Georgia, ice bergs are melting, polar bears are sweating, and all we can talk about is who The Great Barack will pick for his VP. Is this country pathetic, or what?
"...does anyone think Biden would have been out golfing and smiling had he found out he wasn't the guy?"

If he isn't the guy, do you expect him to hole up and home and "cry in his beer".  Really, you guys are such drama queens!

Why not report more substantive issues than this "american idol" version of political news?
On Monday, Fox ran an hour bio of Obama. Last night, McCain was the focus.  Both shows were quite balanced for each candidate. Tonight on CNN, they are also running a similar hour program about each. It will be interesting to see if CNN's programs are as balanced as Fox.

I do wish some here had watched the McCain program. it would have cleared up for you that McCain and his first wife were together for six years after his return.  Some have protrayed here that he never even returned to her. You could have also seen the actual news footage of the fire on the Forrestal.  You would have seen that a freak accident of a missile releasing from another part of the ship and hitting McCain's plane. You would have heard officials describing what happened. You would also seen him jump from the burning plane and roll through flames to escape.  It might have helped some of you who like to say McCain was responsible for the incident realize he was in a plane and had nothing to do with a freak missile event.  

Yesterday, somebody wrote here asking if there was really "proof" that McCain as a POW was subjected to torture. In the Fox program, you would have seen the footage of his capture. You would have seen footage of him barely able to speak at the Hanoi Hilton. You would have heard descriptions of others present tell of McCain's torture and confirming he chose not to go home when it was offered, that he honored the code that the first in would be the first out.

We all feel passion about our particular candidate. Feeling passion and zeal is wonderful.  However, for those of you who continue to spread outright garbage about these points in McCain's life should be ashamed.  As reps of Obama, you certainly don't put him in a very good light.
Polls... polls... Who cares?

Once Biden is on the ticket and in full attack dog mode, we'll see a real break.

http://www.rodneyhopper.com
Virginia is a wet dream for Obama. It will be close, but Virginia remains Red.
It's funny how when there's nothing to talk about, the polls suddenly have meaning.

How come Magoo can't crack 45% even when there's a foreign policy issue with Obama on vacation???

Just be patient, it's almost saturday.
McCain and Lieberman - "The New Odd Couple", or "Grumpiest Old Men".

I like Biden, but asthetically speaking, I don't see it.  Obama and Kaine or even Obama and Clark look more like a "team" standing side by side.  Kaine's got a good narrative and is friends with Obama (no more Clinton/Gore or Bush/Quayle drama, please), but is inexperienced.  Clark is not a strong personality, but has a steller background.

Joe definately has the gravitas needed.  It just looks weird to me, standing side by side.  We all know that appearances count for a lot, as much as we hate to admit it.

As to all this "I'm not the guy" stuff - the candidates probably don't know yet - so yeah, he could be out golfing, trying to take his mind off it all.

Sorry, Dan Abrams (and Bobbi) - it's NOT HRC.  
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Kudos to Rachel and her new show!  It's Maddow Time!

BTW - what's happening to Dan?
These polls are all over the place. The Zogby poll (released today) has McCain ahead of Obama by 5 points. Now how can Zogby have Mccain ahead by 5 while Obama remains ahead of McCain in all the other national polls (some taken yesterday) by 3 or 4. That is as much as a 9 - 10 point difference between polls. Something does not add up other then the fact you cannot rely on the polls.

Is the race close. I'm sure. Especially now that we apparently have some voters (the ignorant group) believing all the attacks McCain has laid on Obama over the last couple of weeks. Obama should still come out on top in November. But if he does not then I want to wish the country well for choosing another GWB (or worse). As Keith Olberman would say if this were to occur - Good Luck and Good Night.  
I will be glad when the V.P. is selected so we can let them do some fighting for the DNC. I have to ask with Senator McCain and his cronies swinging at Senator Obama, where is the DNC. Why do we just sit back and want Senator Obama to do all of the fighting and when things become great, we want to join on the "Band Wagon".  I guess that's the American way, we do not want to be blamed for anything!!!
How can America say they trust McCain more with the Georgia situation, when, if he'd had his way and Georgia had become a member of Nato... we'd been in the midst of World War III.  U.S., Israel, Western Europe vs. Russia, China, & Iran.

Are we really going to make the same mistake twice?

McCain is doing so well BECAUSE the media isn't holding him accountable for anything he says and does that reflects negatively.  My only guess is they don't want to be labeled "liberal media"... well get over yourselves!  You owe it to the American public to hold each candidate accountable to the highest degree.
Joe must go!
Hardball sucks with Chris back. Schuster is much better.
Matthews thinks he is the story and actually believes he can impact the outcome of this race. He acted like he needed to change his panties last night fawning over hilbilly and then insisting that this race is tied.
Nice to hear Racheal is getting her own show.
Is Dan Abrams still the programming director for msnbc?
I don't trust these polls one bit. They typically only poll likely voters. The Obama campaign has brought in droves of new voters that you can bet are not being polled. There are also those like myself that only have cell phone. The only people I know who would even answer a phone even if they don't know who it is would be my 65+ parents and and 80+ grandmother. Almost everyone else I know use cell phones only or screen their calls.
Woohoo! Mccain is up in the polls! I knew that once America saw that Obama was a liberal and black that they would come running back to the safety of the republican party who will keep them safe and tax free
The only poll that matters takes place Nov 4th
Speculation drives reporters insane! this should be the headline news! Everyone will be in a frenzy all week long , until Obama makes a move!  On the other hand, John McCain is like the old beat up can of spam that no one wants, and really does not care about, because the old can is outdated.!
Do you suppose Senator Obama has any interest in Senator Daschle for Vice President?  He has been an excellent spokesman too.
Of course he is going to say that...honestly think about it, if he did slip and say yep I'm it, it would take all the wind from Obama and he would cry and whine until he got his way and probably change his pick just so he got to announce it.

Obama....more self serving than our current president.
When the polls start calling cell phones maybe I'll listen.  I know that half of the folks under 35 and a majority of the folks between 18 and 30 don't even have land lines.  So those polled are older folks like me (64 and no land line)!  Obama is more popular than anyone would guess.  Do some real live polling and you'll get the difference!  Obama 08!
I watch with amazement the complete stupidity of the electorate in this country. To put and idiot like Bush in office not once, but twice, finally realize it was a pretty bad idea and the past 8 years have basically sucked, but then go ahead and choose someone else just like him if not worse for at least 4 more years is without a doubt is the best argument against evolution I've ever seen.

No species as dumb as the modern American public can possibly survive without divine intervention.

I truly hope Obama's poll numbers are the result of his vacation and he comes out and keeps swinging.  The worst thing for this nation would be 4 more years of McSame.  I don't think my family could take it economically.  People (real folks in the under 200k income level) are not better off and need to vote their economics.  The Zogby poll saying people trust McCain more economically is scary.  The fact is 8 years of coporate tax breaks have helped just who they were designed to help...Big Companies and the Rich.  Our family makes about 50k a year and we are struggling, what about families making less?  We aren't even on McCain's radar...Come on people lets get it together and not repeat 2004

GO OBAMA 2008
Forget swing states, political correctness, pleasing this constituency or that.  Think of the VP as a stage prop to raise a presidential candidate's alpha cred.  Biden is Obama's best bet.  Tim Kaine in his 15 minutes looks too young and starry-eyed.  Hillary is virile enough but brings along a gonzo, kibbitzing Bill Clinton.  As for Evan Bayh, "male animal" is not the first thought that comes to mind. See "Alpha and the VP Pick" on AlphaWatch08.com  
BTW - what's happening to Dan?
MI Chick

I had the same question!  Does anyone know where Dan Abrams is going?  I like his show, The Verdict.

Congratulations to Rachel Maddow for earning her own spot on MSNBC. An Olbemann/Maddow ticket will keep us progressive viewers.  
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And Fox News will continue to trounce MSNBC as it does every single day as long as shamelessly biased liberals like Maddow and Olbermann are on the air.
Finally Rush Limbo says something that makes sense...Thanks for reporting this audacious twist of mental cornucopia.... Probably will be the last for this score...
Why does everyone mention Bush's approval rating hurting McCain, but no one seems to suggest that Congress's approval rating, HALF of Bush's, is hurting Obama? Isn't he offering the same change they were unable to deliver?
McCain 08, thanks for your post.  I agree with you-if people want to attack McCain for his policy positions, it's one thing and is fair game.  But to fabricate stories about his divorce (something he's been upfront about) and his POW experience only makes the Obamabots look ridiculous and weak.  
Shake it up....yes the American public is not too smart...they elected Clinton twice!
mccain 08:

Fox News report on Obama/McCain balanced?  Really, you believe that?

Thanks for my laugh of the day.

The cell phone thing is interesting.  I have four kids, all use cells instead of landlines, none have been polled, all vote and are supporting Obama.
There's no big surprise about the polls. Obama has been under constant attack from the corporate media for months, which gets its talking points directly from the Republicon party. All that garbage about how Obama was flip-flopping on Iraq because Chuck Todd could tell from his "tone of voice" when Obama said he could refine his position after talking to the generals. And while the media distort and twist everything Obama says, they desperately try to downplay every stupid McCain gaffe (like his Sunnie vs. Shia ignorance) and ignore the lies he tells in campaign ads -- and sometimes they even praise his lies for showing how "tough" McCain is. (One of a few exceptions is Jonathan Alter. He should be commended for honestly stating what McCain is doing: "lying" about Obama).

The real question should be: with the well-financed GOP slime machine going full blast and the tame corporate media blanketing the country with attacks on Obama, why is McCain still losing?
forget the democratic party. I was a big time supporter until my girl gave it up to the Super delegates who elected the black man. HISPANIC Democrats for McCain if Hillary is not on the ticket.
This tightening comes as no surprise for the reasons highlighted.  The fact that McCain's is still in the low 40's though is quite telling. (glass ceiling anyone?  He's managed to knock Obama down a few pegs as had to have been expected when someone is a on vacation and the weeks played out the way they did.

More than anything- WHAT OBAMA NEEDS TO DO?

-Dumb it down for the masses. (no words greater than 10 letters)

-Shorten answers

-But 2 very important thing-

Obama needs a physical classic , "I FEEL YOUR PAIN MOMENT"- This would do wonders- (preferably at a town Hall in Ohio, Penn, Iowa or Indiana).  He literally NEEDS to show he connects with blue collar and people suffering hardships and needs to actually touch them!!!!!!!!!

2)- He needs to stop explaining what the evil GOP is doing in smearing him AND smear right back.  IF YOU CAN'T MAKE TRULY DEVISTATING COMMERCIAL AND ATTACKS AGAINST MCCAIN WITH ALL THE AMMO THAT COMES OUT OF HIS OWN MOUTH- pLEEEEASE THE GUY IS A (BARELY) WALKING MISTAKE WAITING TO HAPPEN (one well done scare video using his own warped take on social security would be enough to scare the bejesus out of enough old people for example). A technique the GOP has perfected.

Yes overall tighten it up and be more human to the common Joe- speaking of Joe- he will help with this end of it.


Everything will be ok- if not I already have plans to leave the Country as the prospect of 4 more years of this nightmarish 'leadership' will undoubtedly push this country pass repair on so many levels.  The Supreme court Justice Nominations alone are potential scary enough.

After a stolen election and the country in the absolute mess it's in are the American people really still this stupid?


Shake It Up

You hit the nail on the head. And, it just goes to show that negative ads do work on low information voters. But I think its key that the people who paid attention early, are the ones who supported Obama. He was ahead for a long time. And these people (OK, us) are the ones who vote regardless of whether its a sunny day on election morning, or there is a long line at the polls, or whatever obstacle prevents people from voting. Obama supporters are the ones who offer to drive others to the polls, who register people who have never voted, who correct the false impressions of Obama our low information co-workers have, an so on. The energy is behind Obama. Weaker voters support McCain. Obama will win.
Woohoo! Mccain is up in the polls! I knew that once America saw that Obama was a liberal and black that they would come running back to the safety of the republican party who will keep them safe and tax free
jerry/corpus christi texas (Sent Wednesday, August 20, 2008 9:32

Jerry, I am a McCain supporter but this trash you just posted is UNACCEPTABLE.  The liberal part is ok but the black part speaks volumes about who you must be.  Please refrain from posting such racist statements.

Is the race close. I'm sure. Especially now that we apparently have some voters (the ignorant group) believing all the attacks McCain has laid on Obama over the last couple of weeks.
 
C A, Tuscaloosda, AL

Democrats can feel the race slipping away. At least the feeling is familiar to them, it's happened the last two prez elections.

And, real nice C A, blame it on the "Ignorant" people. Then you wonder why Obama and his ilk get tagged with the elitist label.


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