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Convention blotter: Obama threat

Posted: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 9:05 AM by Domenico Montanaro

There hasn't been much of a problem with protestors, but last night there was some violence. "Police in riot gear clashed last night with about 300 protesters about a mile from the site of the Democratic National Convention, and some of the demonstrators were hit with pepper spray." In fact, one of us spoke briefly with one bloodied and bruised teenager on the streets, and he was proud of his wounds -- almost a Fight Club mentality. He wasn't even sure what his cause was, and was seemingly still looking for a fight.

Also in Denver, "Federal authorities are looking into reports that a man arrested with rifles, ammunition, and drugs in his truck may have made threats against Barack Obama, officials said yesterday."

"More details emerging from Denver as we write this in the predawn hours on the now suspected plot to assassinate Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama with a high-powered rifle on national television during his outdoor acceptance speech at Invesco Field Thursday night," the LA Times reports. "Authorities have reported a fourth arrest in the unfolding plot that The Ticket first wrote about here a few hours ago at the end of Monday night's Democratic National Convention events at the Pepsi Center."

Police pulled over a pickup truck for swerving, "But in the rented vehicle of Tharin Gartrell, a 28-year-old convicted felon (see photo), they found two high-powered scoped rifles, ammunition, sighting scopes, radios, a cellphone, a bulletproof vest, wigs, drugs and fake IDs. According to Brian Masss of Denver's KCNC Channel 4, under questioning Gartrell implicated two other men -- Nathan Johnson, who is 32, and Shawn Adolph, who is 33 -- and Johnson's girlfriend, Natasha Gromack. Johnson also reportedly confirmed the plot to FBI and Secret Service interrogators."

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Dolts need to be locked up for life.  If nothing else but the get them out of the gene pool.  I'm sure our democrat friends will say I have Gitmo on the brain.
This here just make me feel SICK to my stomach!!!  What is wrong with these people . . .!!??  This country is not just for whites, it was built by other hues other than white!!?  Why, why, why, why????!!!

And Hillary hinted at that . . .
The scary and sad thing is that if these threats continue, Obama will be paralyzed by his race. If he speaks out, publicly condemns threats on HIS LIFE and the life of his family, surely there will be those who will label him a "race-baiter" and "complainer." It is for the same reason that he and his campaign could not speak out for the safety of campaign volunteers in the face of overt and even violent racism during the primary that was uncovered by the Washington Post. They actually had to down-play it or risk coming off as obsessed with race.

It shows that we've come a long way in this country when a black man can have a real shot at being elected president. However, it shows just how far we have to go when that man has to wonder if he will even survive the ordeal.
God protect this man and his family from all the nuts out there angry.
It doesn't surprise me that there is an assissination plot in Denver---probably there are several taking shape there, targeting the first African American presidential hopeful.
It also doesn't surprise me that the protester ou spoke with hadn't a clue what he was fighting for.  What is there to fight for?  Protest the war?  The Dems want to stop it! Protest about Clinton, when they're making a deal to be good soldiers and still keep their dignity.  So what's to protest?  This kid doesn't know, and he's probably not alone.
Yesterday, I heard Joe Scarborough almost complaining about the security in Denver on MSNBC. I think it's time for him to eat those words.
If you think this is bad just wait until Obama makes his exceptance speech on Thursday. The real crazies are gonna come out then. Just hope they don't hurt Senator Obama and his family. May God be with you and your family Senator Obama.

Some people in this country hasn't changed not one bit!
It is so sad that people are trying to hurt someone that just wants to help our country do better. This Man has a beautiful family and it would be a disgrace to the United States if something did happen to Barack. How would the rest of the world look at us, when we kill one of our leaders. Would we be no better than 3rd world countries that kill officials just because we disagree with them?..May God bless and protect  Barack and his family who are just trying to help our country.
You'd have to know there were some crazies out there.

It would happen sooner or later.

There are some people who just want to stop history in its tracks.

So shameful.

http://www.rodneyhopper.com
The pictures of the guys said to be suspected of assassination intent looked like some real dim witted cowards. Intelligence aside, the threat appears to be real.  Fear, ignorance and hate are still alive and well in the U.S.A.  God Bless Barack Obama and John McCain and all willing to serve.  Vote Obama!  
As far as "no trouble" with protesters go... Here's footage of the mass arrests that shut down a few blocks last night both during and after Michelle's speech.

http://swingstateofmind.com/?p=344


The commentators keep saying the security there in Denver is tighter than the olympics.  

They know why...

Stop playing dumb and dumber!!!

There are REAL NUT JOBS OUT THERE !!!
After all, Sen. Obama had to have FBI security befor the other candidates (besides the ex-first lady).
Oh.my.god.
Security must be on it...we've come to far and to long for some knuckle head to vote away our dreams and hopes.
Please God protect all of America's candidates and their families..
Pray for his safety.
It makes me sick that this country that I love just cannot come to terms with people who are different from them.
It makes me wonder if there is any hope for us.
More has come out about this. It sounds like these four were intent on trying to assassinate Obama, but fortunately were more bumbling than professional about it. The whole thing started falling apart because one of the four was driving erratically, and got pulled over.

I don't know about anyone else, but if I was driving to the scene of some horrendous crime I was about to commit, I'd at least try to stay in my lane and close to the speed limit. Fortunately, one of these four didn't think of that.

What struck me as odd is their rifles were sighted in for 750 yards, according to what was reported about one confession. And the reported plan was to hit Obama during his acceptance speech. That's in a stadium and to be that far away, you have to be outside of but close to the stadium. Unless there's a highrise building right next to Mile High or planned to hitch a ride on the Goodyear blimp, it makes no sense.
Wasn't this the plot of season 1 of 24?  Talk about fantasy mixing with reality!
I wonder who was behind that!!! Hmmm!

It is scary to be sure but every Black man in this country is always vulnerable whether he be President or Bill Cosby's son. Black folks have learned to live with it.




I guess the police actions taken can fight terrorism.  Chalk one up for the surge in Denver.
so one of rush/rove hit teams gets caught in the act and they got caught cause of their incomptence but what do you expect from drugged up right wing racist?  they are just as incompetent as bush/cheney/rove/rush so it is not suprising they get caught, shades of Watergate, rush gets caught with his drugs, mccant gets caught in Keating 5, cheneys man gets caught outing a CIA operative, where will their incomptent law breaking end?
FR: "Police in riot gear clashed last night with about 300 protesters about a mile from the site of the Democratic National Convention, and some of the demonstrators were hit with pepper spray."

Chelsea has taken a more militant stance lately to try and support her parents.
Clinton comments may come back to haunt her after the defeat in the primary. I will keep my delegates until the convention because of what happen in "68".

Is there a plot brewing?
It didn't happen, and that is a good thing.  When people get closer to the nomination for president and other offices, strange people come out of the woodwork.  I don't understand these people.
Wow. It's hard to believe there are still people plotting to kill black leaders. It seems some people haven't moved past the violence of the Civil Rights era (or the Reconstruction).

Let's all pray the first words of the prayer Obama left in the Western Wall: "Lord--protect me and my family."
Let's hear the hate filled comments about Obama from the neo-cons on here now after this report of an attempted assassination. This is what is created  when you have hate-filled loud mouths like Limbaugh and Hannity spewing their divisiveness and garbage against Obama. The unfortunate thing is, which they should know, there are evil people out there that hang on every word they say and are encouraged by their personal hate-filled foul retorts against Obama. What say you neo-cons. Want to add some more of your personal BS against Obama on this blog today. Go ahead, encourage your brothers and sisters. If anything like this threat happens to Obama I give up. I give up on even trying to figure out such people except to understand like Obama stated in the Warren interview, there is plenty of evil in this country too.  
His answer regarding his time as a POW in this context was so misplaced and strange....what is even stranger is the fact the Republican Party actually believes it OK and wasn't another "gaffe".  

When other countries around the world discuss challenging issues with the U.S., I have a hard time believing they will accept the 'POW card' as an answer.  

I hope Democrats use this to reassure how transparent and unprepared McCain is.....Obama isn't ready to lead???  Give me a break.
This is a manifestation of our greatest fear. And, a perfect example of why the politics of personal destruction holds the potential to destroy our civilization. Think about it. People have grown to believe, comfortably, that there is a moral justification to murder and/or destroy people who are different.
Yep a couple of right-wing, criminal nutjobs with guns trying to screw up a convention is just what the country doesn't need.  They are the best reason for needing much stricter gun laws because the IQ of most gun owners is less than the caliber of the gun/rifle they own.  Responsible gun ownership is one thing, but we need to toughen up gun laws so morons aren't allowed to own them.

Go Obama/Biden 08/12!
If the Dems are smart they will check out some of the "protesters".  A woman, supposedly a former Clinton supporter and voting for McCain, told Chris Matthews that Obama is a muslim and that's why she's voting for McCain.  Absolutely laughable that the media doesn't speak up about these Republicans trying to stir up trouble.
Please America, don't let this happen to another great leader, i don't think that America can survive another assasination. We all ready have the reputation that if you don't like or agree with something or somebody than you kill it, God forgive them for they know not what they do! Hell has no furry than a Nation Scorned!!I pray for you Senator Obama and your family and may god watch over you and protect you forever! We as a Nation will not allow anything to happen to you, and nothing will stop this movement of change from occuring!! God Bless You!
As a Gen-Xer, I did not go through the turmoil of the 1960s, but my family did. I thought America was past this crap, this hate. I have served for this country for 17 years as a Soldier, living the Army Values that recognize the worth and value of all Americans no matter race or creed. These inbred haters are not what I stand for.

There has been talk of possible assasination attempts on Sen Obama for a long time, and I feel that have been fed by the vile coming from the right wing nuts(Coulter, Hannity, Oreilly). Its time that Sen McCain step up and show that he is above what is coming out of his party and show he is still running for all Americans, not just the WASPS and wealthy. He lost this Independant, former Republican, servicemans vote awhile ago, but he may still have my respect if he still stands for the ideals that I know he learned from his family and his service.

I pray that God keep our candidates, both Sen Obama and Sen McCain, and their families safe. I have seen enough killing and hate.
Do you think the Obamas did not know this was going to happen , this wont be the last time either. It takes a patriot to know that he is putting his life on the line, and still go forward. He is a special person, no I dont think he is the messiah I think he he a politician who knows what is important to this country and has every intension of doing everything he can to make it better. A Patriot.

Obama/Biden

What a coincidence.  I hope this has nothing to with with Hillary's position of canceling her campaign as opposed to conceding because "You never know what can happen....."

All I know is, if disgruntled Hillary supporters ruin Barack's chances at becoming President, their girl will NEVER get elected for national office.  What they fail to realize is, as much as we need their support now, they will need our future support, and Obama's supporters will NEVER forget.
The price of living in a free society is to have to deal with protests, and sometimes things do get out of hand.

Let's all resolve to hear each other out in a civil manner; and continue to support our law enforcement community for the often thankless job they have to do.
It is that man with the rifles and guns -- when I saw that report in the craw under the picture last night that made me worry.  I lived through all three assasinations...John, Bobby and Martin.  So forgive me if I get a litle nervous when I read this kind of news story.
God help us all. This is twice in a week.
I am starting to like the Patriot Act....
I guess the far right operatives are gearing up for a win by the repubs.
Losers
If the threats that are reported were to be carried out, it would send a sad message, because the World looks upon the U.S. for change and making strides in the racial divides in which the World has greeted with great euthusiasm. But only to have the U.S. itself close those views to that the World sees. The message to World would be the U.S. itself cannot move forward for change if it denies it.
This threat and the church shooting by the right wing whack jobs in Tennessee can be traced to inspiration of hate radio Rush Limbaugh and Bill O'Reilley) and TV (Sean Hannity). Hannity has ties to Hal Turner, an avowed White supremest.
The FCC needs to seriously monitor all of these hate radio shows, and file charges for inciting assassination attempts by the neocon right wing loonies. These radical neocon talking heads must be brought to justice for inspiring hate crimes through their inflammatory rhetoric.  
Oh, now the Democrats want more protection from the protestors. Interesting. Little different when you're on the receiving end now isn't Dems? The Patriot Act, and those other safe guards Bush put in place to stop terrorism are starting to make a little more sense to you now. Maybe next time you'll be a little less critical of Bush when he talks about defending the country against terrorists.
These guys are nut jobs and losers.  So I appeal to those on the right, can we run a campaign on issues instead of telling a bunch of lies to gin up the nut jobs?  When you tell the kind of stories we hear EVERY day from Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, Savage, Ingraham, Levin, etc, some of those crazies are going to be moved to attempt action.  Please, let's move this thing to a civilized level instead of to base emotions.  Just because I don't agree with most of what McCain is trying to do doesn't mean I think he's the Antichrist.
I guess the far right operatives are gearing up for a win by the repubs.
------------------------------------------------------When someone makes a racist comment on here everyone calls them out.  I think the above comment is pretty offensive too.   The situation is pretty scary-are nasty comments like that really appropriate?
A bunch of white trash – rednecks?  They don't have the intellect to do anything this distinctive.

This is a bunch of Repukes, Karl Rove type BS - to scare off voters.

Rest assure if for some ungodly reason something happened to Barack Obama - it wouldn't be some back woods group of rednecks to do it.

But a well planned organized organization.  Hint. Hint..  And if something like that happened …America would never mean anything to anyone – Never - EVER

This would not be like the 60's when Kennedy and King was assassinated ...time are different..

We would not rely on the government to do a damn thing to get to the bottom of this  -we would take matters in our own hands.

And those 600 prison yards set aside for minorities –would soon become useful.

Please don't try it..No amount of blame could convince U.S. for such a tragedy.

Thank you and GOD BLESS AMERICA
DO NOT LOOK ONLY ON THOSE WHO ARE CAUGHT WITH THE INSTRUMENTS. THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO ARE WORKING TO CONTROL  PEOPLE SO THEY CARRY OUT  THE BEHIND THE SCENERES BIDDING--THEY WON'T GET CAUGHT FOR NO ONE SEES THEM--THOSE ARE WHO YOU NEED TO TALK TO GOD ABOUT, AS WELL AS THE VULNERABLE ONES WHO  SHOULD CONSIDER THE RESULTS OF THEIR ACTIONS.
PRAYER TO THE TRUE AND LIVING GOD DOES CHANGE THINGS!!!!!!!PRAY, PRAY, PRAY!IF YOU DO NOT KNOW HOW TO PRAY, ASK GOD TO DIRECT YOU AND HE WILL! HE CAN ALSO GIVE YOU A VISION AS WELL!
A bunch of white trash – rednecks?  They don't have the intellect to do anything this distinctive.

This is a bunch of Repukes, Karl Rove type BS - to scare off voters.

Rest assure if for some ungodly reason something happened to Barack Obama - it wouldn't be some back woods group of rednecks to do it.

But a well planned organized organization.  Hint. Hint..  And if something like that happened …America would never mean anything to anyone – Never - EVER

This would not be like the 60's when Kennedy and King was assassinated ...times are different..

We would not rely on the government to do a damn thing to get to the bottom of this  -we would take matters in our own hands.

And those 600 prison yards set aside for minorities –would soon become useful.

Please don't try it..No amount of blame could convince U.S. for such a tragedy.

Thank you and GOD BLESS AMERICA
I would love to hear candidates on both sides of the political fence start speaking up against violent opposition in this nation. We have the right to free speech AND we have the right to bear arms, but apparently some folks out there are continuing to try and combine the two.

Assassinating people whose opinions do not match your own does not kill the ideas they represent; generally, it accomplishes the exact opposite.

Please, America: speak up; be heard; vote. Any combination of the three is a fantastic way to take part in the process. But attempting to fatally silence someone simply on the grounds that you do not agree with them? That is most certainly NOT in accord with the freedoms we prize.

Forget relying merely on the Patriot Act to solve this. It's the responsibility which falls to us all.
send these clowns to Rikers island and see how "affirmative" they are.
The Clintons will do fine at the convention. It's just her supporters acting like children. "I won't vote for Obama because I am bitter that the media treated her bad and they were sexist". What the hell does the media treating Clinton wrong have to do with Obama? If he doesn't win, I hope her supporters know what they are doing and have a back up plan for her in 2012.

I'm just saying!
MIA in Miami (Sent Tuesday, August 26, 2008 9:32 AM)

We her supporters like to be called New Independents. This is mainly to distance ourselves and up coming action from being on Hillary. She is doing what she is told to do By obama and the DNC. As for her running in 2012 or 16. All of you Clinton haters can relax, she won't ran again. This year was to be her year, she is done now, and thanks to you ,DNC, and obama we'll never have that great woman as President. I truely hope all of you are happy with your action in bashing her so tirelessly. The DNC did their part by rigging this for obama and he did his part by his lieing, cheating and stealing votes. ( MI , where he wasn't on the ballot )
But now, all of you must realize we new independents must do what we think is fair and just. We do not like obama or we would have voted for him. We don't trust him from watching him and his actions. Also we are EXTREMELY pissed at the DNC. So us NOT supporting him should be understandable. This war has gone WAY BEYOND the issues, The DNC, obama and you Hillary haters  / bashers have now made it personal for us.
So now we will vote for McCain or not at all.
New Independents and we approve this message !!!!


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