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Dem convo, Day 2: Are the Clintons ready?

Posted: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 9:12 AM by Domenico Montanaro

With Hillary Clinton giving tonight’s primetime speech, today’s coverage is dominated by Clinton-Obama rift stories. The Los Angeles Times: "The big question of the presidential election, says L. Douglas Wilder, the nation's first elected black governor, is not whether America is ready for a black president. Rather, he asks, ‘Are the Clintons ready?’

More: "Instead, in interviews with delegates and aides to the rival camps, it was clear Monday that tensions have only swelled since the heat of a primary competition fraught with racial, gender and generational differences. Obama backers are frustrated that the Clintons do not seem willing to let go of their 16-year dominance of the Democratic Party, while Clinton aides complained privately that the young presumed nominee is not paying them proper respect -- a tension heightened by the revelation that Obama never seriously considered his rival as a running mate."

But the Washington Post’s Ann Kornblut writes that Clinton knew she wasn’t being seriously considered for the No.2 slot. “In a private meeting with Sen. Barack Obama after she conceded the race for the Democratic presidential nomination, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton made a request: that he consider her for his vice presidential running mate, but not put her through the charade of being vetted if he was not serious. Obama told Clinton then it was unlikely he would choose her, people familiar with the conversation said. Obama did not want to lead her on and, after campaigning against her for more than a year, already had a sense that their pairing would not be the right fit.” 

The New York Times’ Healy compares the struggles facing the Kennedy family (personal) vs. the Clinton family (political). "As one political dynasty was celebrating its legacy and ceding the political stage on Monday night, the other dominant family of the Democratic Party was struggling to protect its legacy and accept its own exit from the spotlight. Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton and Bill Clinton had once hoped this convention would be theirs, an exultation of past and future Clinton White Houses. Instead, they were coming face to face with shrunken, supporting roles."

Is Marie Cocco in the Washington Post right? Hillary can't win tonight? "Hillary Clinton will be damned if she looks too methodically perfect, too much the purveyor of practiced routine and not enough the cheery personification of enthusiasm. She'll also be damned if she's too exuberant, too obviously raising her voice in unbridled exhortation for the team. She will either be deemed too cool or all-too-cagily warm."

Below are some bullet points for a few of tonight’s marquee speakers:

Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY)
-- Clinton won more than 18 million votes in the ultra-competitive primary against Barack Obama.
-- She won 1,645 delegates to Obama’s 1,765. (At last count, Obama had 401 superdelegates to Clinton’s 291. More on the counts here
-- Clinton grew up in a solidly Republican Chicago suburb. Once a Goldwater Girl, she switched parties in the late 1960s. During the primary, Clinton had a knack for taking on the image of several states -- in Indiana, grew up next door; in Indiana, spent part of her youth in Scranton.
-- Her 1969 college commencement speech was mentioned in Life magazine.
-- Failed Washington, D.C., bar exam.
-- In 1972, Bill and she ran McGovern's presidential campaign in Texas; in 1974, worked for the House Judiciary Committee's special counsel John Doar on the impeachment of Richard Nixon.
-- Named one of 100 Most Influential lawyers by the National Law Journal.
-- In Arkansas, served on boards of Wal-Mart and TCBY.
-- In 2000, Independent Counsel Robert Ray concluded Clinton gave factually false testimony in a sworn deposition, but declined to prosecute her, according to the 2008 Almanac of American Politics.
-- Her failed bid for the Democratic presidential nomination was just her third run at public office, including her two successful bids for US Senate.

Mark Warner, keynote
-- The popular former Virginia governor and favored 2008 Virginia Senate candidate speaks on the same night as Hillary Clinton, and in 2006, he was considered the “anti-Hillary” presidential candidate before he decided not to run. He was featured as such on the cover of The New York Times magazine that year.
-- He also raised questions on Hillary’s ability to be competitive nationwide in 2006. "I think Senator Clinton can be competitive across the country, but I think one of the things we as a party are going to have to do is look at the ideas on how we get the country back on the right track… We need to not simply look at the personality, but look at the ideas. But I find all across the country there is a real sense that what we as Democrats have to do is not simply be competitive in 16 or 17 states, but actually have candidates that can win all across the country." (Sound familiar, anyone?)
-- Co-founder of the cell-phone company that eventually became Nextel, earning him a personal fortune upwards of $200 million. He’s known to joke on stage when a cell-phone interrupts his speeches, “Music to my ears.”
-- Ran unsuccessfully against John Warner for the Senate in 1996, but the race was closer than expected at 52%-47%.
-- The Christian Science Monitor profiles Warner before he keynotes today’s speech. 

Gov. Kathleen Sebelius (D-KS)
-- Her father, John Gilligan, was the Democratic governor of Ohio from 1971 to 1975; her father-in-law, meanwhile, was a Republican member of Congress.
- -First daughter of a governor to be elected governor of a state.
- -Traveled to Iraq, Pakistan, Afghanistan and China as governor.
-- Chose a Republican as her gubernatorial running mate in 2002, and replaced him (he had planned to step down) with Mark Parkinson, the former state GOP chair, who switched his registration to Democrat one day before Sebelius made the announcement.
-- Ranked as one of America's five best governors by Time magazine in 2005.
-- Chaired the Democratic Governors Association in 2007.
-- After a tornado struck town of Greensburg in 2007, suggested the National Guard was under-equipped because of the resources going to the Iraq war.
-- Mentioned as a possible Senate candidate in 2010.

Sen. Bob Casey (D-PA)
-- Father Bob Sr., who was anti-abortion rights as is his son, was denied a speaking role at the 1992 convention reportedly by Clinton for wanting to speak on abortion. The Clintons said at the time it was because he didn’t initially support the Clinton-Gore ticket.
-- Similarly in the 2008 race, Casey bucked the Clintons by endorsing Obama before the Pennsylvania primary.
-- Taught fifth grade and coached eighth-grade basketball in Philadelphia before getting his law degree from Catholic University.

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Clintons just won't go away, tonight should be interesting
This is about power.  Plain and simple.  The Clintons, and as importantly, all their minions and hanger-on-ers, expected they'd be back in power.  They're pissed that they're not and while HIllary is acting admirably, many of her hard-core supporters, particularly those in the "Amtrak corridor" (who feed the news media all these stories) are still acting like kindergartners, having temper-tantrums since they know they're not going to be getting the ambassadorships that they had been counting on.   Let's call this what it is:  a handful of adults throwing temper-tantrums because they're not going to get the plum assignments they think they're entitled to.


We'll be watching very closely...  

Michelle set the bar very high!!!

Why haven't these 18,000,000 given her a dollar a piece to retire her debt?  
OBAMA SHOULD NOT HAVE TO HELP TO PAY FOR WHAT SHE DID TRYING TO DEYSTROY HIM!!!

PUT UP OR SHUT UP!!!

It has taken me a long 10 weeks to get here; but I am proud of Hillary.  I would not have used her tactics; but she indeed has paved the way and made it easier and more acceptable for women to be considered for the highest office in the land.  Someone said yesterday there isn't a glass ceiling - it's more like concrete.  I carried a Gary Larson cartoon around for years because of the 'joke' that "...we prefer to use steel bars set in reinforced concrete..."

I think Ted Strickland said it best, she absolutely has testicular fortitude.  If she would have won, I would have voted for her.

Bottom line, the MSM has decided to make this convention about the perceived drama.  They will prevent unity - or the appearance of unity - at all costs.

So for all of you who are fatigued from the Clinton Drama (I speak for myself here), let's ALL let it go.  She will do exactly what she needs to do.  She is a true Democrat.  We don't have to agree with the method; but we have got to get on board with the message.

We MUST win in November, our children's futures are depending on it!
I listened to Paul Begala on Imus this morning while driving in. He made a great point.

Imus flatly accused Hillary Clinton of not wanting Obama to win. Begala came right and pointed out she'll do whatever she can to get him elected because she recognizes her future in the party is tied to an Obama win.

The simple reason is Clinton understands she'll be blamed by half the party if Obama doesn't win.

Imus didn't buy the argument, but I did. I like when we hear rationales for political motivations that dovetail with analysis of self-interest, because those are the arguments we can believe, whether coming from a cynical perspective or not.

Begala basically said that Clinton cares more about the issues than having an opportunity to run in four years, and for those reasons wanted Obama to win. But, he argued, regardless of whether you believe that about Clinton, even if she didn't want Obama to win, she needs Obama to win for her own self-interest.

I also enjoyed the fact that Imus and Begala couldn't agree on anything this morning, but retained a civility that stems from their friendship and respect for one another. But that's another story.
The Clintons will do fine at the convention. It's just her supporters acting like children. "I won't vote for Obama because I am bitter that the media treated her bad and they were sexist". What the hell does the media treating Clinton wrong have to do with Obama? If he doesn't win, I hope her supporters know what they are doing and have a back up plan for her in 2012.

I'm just saying!
The torch must been passed or will the Clintons look ugly again...
It's their foot and their mouth and they can use any way they want...good troopers swallow their pride roll up their sleeves and start bending that back for the their leader...unless they're elitist...and to proud and sore loosers...This is Baracks time...not ours..
Okay...somebody had to sat it...done..
With Hillary Clinton giving tonight’s primetime speech, today’s coverage is dominated by Clinton-Obama rift stories.
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Really?! I hadn't noticed!! [/snark]

Seriously, I found myself screaming at my television last night when Ann Curry was pressing Nancy Pelosi to stir the proverbial Clinton/Obama pot.  It's starting to get pretty ridiculous.

http://thepajamapundit.com/

The discourse of the role and topic for Bill during the conventions is exactly why it's a GREAT thing that Sen. Obama chose Sen. Biden.  

The clintons cannot be satisfied and Obama would never have gotten one nights sleep with Hill & Bill posturing for the next POWER PLAY against him.

Obama wants no more Drama.

Chuck, the Clintons deserve two nights......18 million people voted for Hillary and Bill is the most senior living Democrat and should be heard.  Just because you and Chris Matthews would like to see them go away doesn't mean the nation does.  Especially the 18 million voters who tried to get her in office.  I think it is disrespectful to sweep them under the rug and at least Obama recognizes that despite the endless efforts of MSNBC to make the Clintons go away.
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Headlining in Denver --- THE NEW OBAMA DEMOCRATIC PARTY.

The New Democrats --- free of SELFISH special interest groups;  free of hucksters like Sharpton & Jackson; and, free of whining white women like the Hillary Supporters.

GO OBAMA --->  GO NEW DEMOCRATS  ............>>

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Good lineup.. time to come out swinging.

http://www.rodneyhopper.com
*ignoring the Clintons*
They better be ready, there is a lot on the line here tonight and if she fails and Barack Obama loses the race there is no way I will be voting for her in 2012!
I will be so glad when this "Clinton Pity Party" ends. Again, the Clinton's are acting like they are entitled. Entitled to what? An image? A sound byte? A politcal Party? A country? Pleeze. They need to get over themselves. Apparently they've forgotten that Bill was impeached as president. He's not the godsend they want you to believe. They have made a mockery out of the process and need to quietly step away, but we all know THAT will never happen. I am very disappointed in both of them. The Clinton era is over (and not soon enough).  Obama/Biden '08
The beauty of this Country is the collective minds of its people. Over the past 8 years we've gone absolutely nowhere. And it's easy to throw blame around, but when you strip in down to what's really been going on in our great nation, you quickly realize that "We The People" are the cause of this. We are stagnant because of us. WE DID THIS!!! We are a democracy... We vote people in... We're responsible for the predicament of this country because we choose to pick out of fear rather than for the best interest of our Country. We are slowly becoming a nation of nothing. Where we were once strong, we are now laughed at and frowned upon... And we take it lying down, accepting things at face value simply because someone says so... All that was sacrificed for the greater good of our futures are proving to have been in vain...

I looked at how some folks said that Obama lost Rick Warren's forum conversation because he was too thorough, expressive, detailed, and intelligent... WOW!!! What have we come to where we expect anything less??? The integrity and intelligence of this Country has been seriously insulted... We choose to become a failing and falling nation all for the sake of stubbornness and ignorance... It's like there's a dying breed of courage in America.

"We The People" choose our paths... We decide the direction of our Country, and we now stand at a folk in the road... We decide what our tomorrows hold.

The bottom line is, we're either going to wake up November 5th with Barack Obama as our President, willing, and able to lead us back down the path of greatness, or We're going to wake up with John McCain as our President, bringing the same failed policies of the past 8 years... Do realize though, that we are the ones who decide this... If y'all can live with that, then we'll all have no choice but to...

It's rather interesting actually to see how on the surface so much has changed over the last 200+ years, yet deeply rooted remains the same ignorant, prejudiced, tainted mindset of so many in this Country... {Just calling a spade a spade}

WOULD WE REALLY RATHER HAVE ANOTHER 4 YEARS OF GOING BACKWARDS, AS OPPOSE TO BEGINNING TO REALIZE THE TRUE GREATNESS OF OUR COUNTRY???

Obama/ Biden 2012...
WITHOUT A DOUBT, BABY!!!
The drama between Clinton and Obama is overblown.

Clinton herself came out saying that she does not support McCain, and doesn't approve him using her comments on his ads.

Clinton would make a better supreme court justice than president in my opinion, and i can see her nominated to the bench by an Obama presidency.  That is where she can best help to shape america, and i think she realizes it.

can't wait to hear her speak tonight!
The Clintons are always ready. Odds of Hillary sitting in the big Oval Office chair in January? 3-1. Watch your back Barack, it ain't over tell it's over.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKk!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ENOUGH WITH THE CLINTONS ALREADY!!!!
I am more interested to see the non-Clinton speakers at this convention.  As far as Hillary and Bill go, they seem unable to contribute positively to the cause of the Democratic party because they are so self-obsessed.  I know that as president Bill Clinton was able to carry the party for a while, but his personal foibles got in the way of his policy agenda.  I am a pragmatist -- I want to know what people think and will work for.  As far as Hillary Clinton is concerned, I am more interested in what she will to to advance the Democratic platform in her role as a Senator than in hearing her wax poetic about not being the nominee.  If her speech turns out to be another "Clinton's greatest hits", I will stop watching.
The torch has past.  It is time for the Clintons to take a step back and for the Obama's to lead this country out from under the bane of conservatism.
I would think that the pro Obama  team that makes up MSNBC would have enough sense to realize that Obama needs Hillary's supporter.Instead they continue to print negative stories about Hillary. NOT VERY BRIGHT CHUCK and if Obama loses in November  it will because you and the MSNBC team would not let up on Hillary . Even though Obama won, you still continue to harass and slander Hillary. Do you really think that this will help UNITY in the Democratic party?????????? Obama's loss will be your fault.
So Obama had told Hillary she would not be his VP running mate early. Good to know. And here all her wacko supporters (what Chris Matthwews calls them) thought she was shown no respect because Obama didn't vet her or even talk to her about the job. Well, it seems he did talk to her and that she knew early on she would not be his pick. There goes their arguement he didn't say a word to her and therefore showed her no respect.
Obama gave respect to an older pol who actualy DESERVED respect---Ted Kennedy. Why should he respect Hillary, a one-term senator like himself, or Bill, as brilliant as his presidency was, who seems to have lost his mind since then? They both tore Obama down, unlike Kennedy, who saw in Barack a truly new kind of politician and honored that newness. I hope to God Hil and Bill behave themselves and at least ACT convincingly when (if) they boost Obama.  If they don't, Hillary can expect the kind of shunning in Congress some religious groups used to do to misbehaving members, and her career will end right there. She'd better remember that.
Wilder is way off base:
How does.... "the Clintons do not seem willing to let go of their 16-year dominance of the Democratic Party, while Clinton aides complained privately that the young presumed nominee is not paying them proper respect -- a tension heightened by the revelation that Obama never seriously considered his rival as a running mate."..translate into the Clinton's not being ready for our first African American President? One could argue that they haven't accepted that she lost or blew it, but not sure what race has to do with it. Seems like more race baiting - not by the Clintons, but trying to pin it on them.
I really wonder if this whole Hillary/Obama division is just a media ratings invention. I'd bet $1000 bucks tomorrow we hear the same sh*t as after her last speech. "She hit all the right notes! Dems have catharsis & unity! Clinton so gracious!" As long as the eyeballs sell the ads. But MSM won't put out the fire that is Obama 08.
In order to be shown respect one must show respect.  The Clintons need to suck it up and show Barack Obama the respect he deserves, especially after throwing the kitchen sink at him during the primaries.  Respect is earned, not demanded.  I think Michelle did a nice job of paying respect to Hillary last night and now Hillary needs to show she has similar class.

Why is Moronic Joe on after 9AM Eastern/6AM Pacific?  I can't stand listening to his clueless vile lies of fear and smear.  Instead of listening to his clueless babble I switched to the NASA channel because listening to the sounds of humming machines is far more intelligent sounding than Moronic Joe.  MSNBC tv better get a clue that he loses their audience.

Go Obama/Biden 08/12!
We will see if Hillary came to play as a team member or to give the repubs some more material for future TV ads.  I guess it's time to put up or shut up, seeing that her so called friend John McPOW is pimping her out in his campaign ads now.  I guess she's finding out that being pimped is'nt easy either.
Today is Clinton Day at the convention, and nearly half her supporters are leaning towards voting for McCain. Hillary doesn't have it in her to tell them different.
Frankly, I am tired of the Press talking about the Clintons. You more that anyone are creating problems that don't exist. Sure their supporters are disappointed, but by your very own poll numbers, most are moving on and will support Obama. So stop with the political psychbabble. It is very boring.
I am so sick of you in the media making a mountain out of a molehill. The Hillary supporters will not let
the GOP use and then abuse them, no matter how many republicans tell them to. We women are a little testy,
we do hold a grudge, we are loyal, BUT NOT STUPID. I
dont care how many time Pat B. tells us we are so mad we will vote for a war mongering, woman hateing (his wife is a c---)man who has no idea who he is. Remember
when he used to be a man, hes not anymore. He will be led around by the nose by the same people that led Bush around by the nose.  The problems that you insist
we have with the Clintons and the Obamas will be long past by the time the election rolls around. You guys are a joke, Corporate talking points the same as the
republican talking points. Your network corporate CEO and your big excutives will all be voteing republican.
We know we cant believe a thing you guys make up.
Hillary supporters they are using you and laughing at you.  Think about it. Why cant your girl just challenge him in 2012 if hes not doing a good job, if some of you feel that strongley you can work at that.
me I support Obama and I like Hillary very much. I think you are putting your negativity in the wrong place. Look at the Media, not at Obama.

Obama/Biden
I stopped caring what the Clintons thought right around the SC primaries and the "SHAME ON YOU BARACK OBAMA" chastising that Hillary gave him in the primary season.
All I know is, if disgruntled Hillary supporters ruin Barack's chances at becoming President, their girl will NEVER get elected for national office.  What they fail to recognize is, as much as we need their support now, they will need our future support, and Obama's supporters will NEVER forget.
Hillary and Bill will do their "jobs" at the convention with dignity which is more than Obama has done for them.
Hillary Clinton can help Obama just so much, in the finale analysis Obama has to help himself win the presidency.  He got Biden for his VP to be his Bulldog and fight for him, but Obama has to speak up and put McSame in his place, and stop letting Mccain and his surragates walk all over him.  " I think Hillary did ALOT to help Obama Already; and I think she can get most of her supporters to support Obama--"She got me to."   `that young girl and a few others I've seen in political clips are Repubs pretending to be Hillary Democrats for Mccain--`that is a scam."
Hillary can't leave the stage soon enough. I am embarrassed by her, her husband, and her followers. This isn't a date, it's politics, it's rough. She lost. It's time to let our kids make the choices now--we've f'd it up royally by allowing W to be elected TWICE, and believe me, Bill and Hill were counting on that to get her elected this time. Sorry it didn't work out fer ya!
You know what, here's a bit of an interesting idea.  With McCain and the RNC purposely trying to use her as a wedge within the Democrats...she needs to get mad.

I'm serious.  I'm not exactly a bit supporter of Mrs. Clinton, but I think if she really wants to unify this party she has to do it with more than sweet words.  She needs to come out hard, outraged, at McCain for even daring to use her name as a political weapon.  She needs to completely call him out for what a deplorable tactic he's been using and SHOW her supporters that McCain is trying to USE her.  That they're all in this together.  

If she can do this, you'll see a large move for party unity immediately and likely a large jump in the polls for Sen Obama.
This speech tonight is important.  If Clinton doesn't convince her delegates and other supporters to vote for Obama come November, her chances for anything nationally, will be doomed.  She fought a hard race and lost.  I hope that her supporters understand that and move on.  
I am so sick of the Clintons. What and why they
think they are owed so much is beyond me. THEY
LOST! And, because of their own tactics and
decisions.
The media and the pubs just keep everything stirred
up. To think the Democratic party is going to get
a break from the media, is living with blinders.
They have ignored Mccains lies, blunders and the
outrageous swiftboating. They have not exposed
Mccain for the fraud he is, ie, the so called
religious debate where it was obvious Mccain knew
the questions ahead of time, the cross in the sand
story which he stole, and his obvious inadaquacies.
As a 72 year old, I know the signs of aging and
he has them all. He is not capable of being a
leader of our country and has thrown integrity
to the wind.
Maybe when Hillary Clinton gives her speech - you Media folks can finally keep her name out of this election.

My question to you guys - has there ever been this much media attention for a losing potential nominee before?  or are you guys using her lost as a tool to sway voters - not to vote for Barack Obama.

I can not believe the attention Hillary's getting from the Media ...and John McCain is using this to his advantage and you media folks are feeding right into his plan as if you both are in collusion.

IF John McCain is elected we will blame the Media for it unbiased coverage and blatant plan of attack on Barack Obama.

SO - when John McCain takes us to war with North Korea, Iran and possibly Russia and we get blown off the Map...I hope you guys feel good about your contribution to our destruction and you burn slowly as you descend towards HELL.

Thank you and GOD BLESS AMERICA
THE KENNEDY FAMILY HAS BEEN A PART OF THE NATIONAL DEMOCRATIC FAMILY FOR OVER 5 YEARS. THEY HAVE DONE MORE FOR THE PEOPLE THAN ANY OTHER FAMILY.

THE CLINTONS ARE NOT PART OF THE REAL DEMOCRATIC PARTY BECAUSE THEY ALWAYS THOUGHT THEY WERE BETTER THAN ANYONE ELSE AND IT WAS OWED THEM. HILLARY THOUGHT IT WAS HER RIGHT TO BE THE NEXT PRESIDENT BUT GUESS WHAT IT DIDNT HAPPEN. THERE ARE MAJOR PROBLEMS WITH BILLS ATTITUDE. HILLARY THINKS SHE SHOULD BE THE FIRST WOMAN FOR THE PRESIDENCY. WRONG AGAIN. THEY HAVE TOO MANY ENEMIES AND THEIR DEALINGS WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT WITHOUT PROBLEMS HOW THEY MAKE THEIR MONEY. IF THEY WERE VETTED THERE WOULD BE PROBLEMS WITH THE MONEY FOR BILLS LIBRARY AND WHERE IT CAME FROM WOULD BE A MAJOR PROBLEM. HOW CAN SOMEONE MAKE OVER 109 MILLION DOLLARS IN 7 YEARS IS ALSO A BIG QUESTION THEY MAY NOT WANTED VETTEDL.

OBAMA IS THE HEAD OF THE PARTY NOW AND HAS THE RIGHT TO DO THINGS HIS WAY AND HE HAS BENT OVER BACKWARDS TO PLEASE THE CLINTON AND ALL THEIR DEMANDS ON HOW THE THE CONVENTION SHOULD BE RAN.

ITS TIME FOR THE CLINTONS TO HIT THE ROAD AND RIDE IN THE SUN SET
I think BILL is the better speaker and he is the one that will "knock it out of the park" tomorrow night.  You just have to let Bill be Bill and let him speak his mind...and not be afraid.  
One must remember that many of Hillary's vaunted 18 million votes came from Republicans who viewed her as the easier target in November. Rememer Rush and his call for "Operation Chaos"?

PUMA's, if you are not merely a Republican in sheep's clothing, read on:

You (we) can not affort to have even one more Supreme Court justice appointed by a Republican president, unless you want to lose everything you have gained in the last fifty years.  You know it's true, so get on the train that is about to leave without you.  In all probability, Hillary is going to tell you much the same thing tonight. Listen to her.

Go Barack! You Ba-rock!
I'm drooling in anticipation of Hillbilly's speech. I can hardly wait for tomorrow's First Read to watch you moron Demos tear each other to pieces some more over coulda, shoulda, woulda.
Hillary CAN win tonight -- big time!  If she rips into John McCain as hard -- no, harder -- than she ripped into Obama during the primaries.  Obama forces will simmer down, her own supporters will be faced with a choice and know clearly how she wants them to go, and - most important - it would increase chances for a victory in Nov.  Ted Kennedy could have dwelt on the past but he looked forward; I hope the Clintons will do so also.
The Clintons know their political future is limited if they don't work to get Obama elected. You have to be about the party if the party is going to be about you.  Witness "Independent Democrat" Joe Lieberman.
I think Hillary has moved on. I think most her real supporters have moved on or are about to do so.

I don't think there is anything she can say to the remaining haters like that one who claimed on national television that Obama was a "registered muslim". You see, for that one (who brings discredit to any Dem with a legitimate reason for not voting for Obama, which isn't fair IMHO), it merely provides cover to her racism. Lots of folks have that problem and we need to acknowledge, accept and overcome it.
It would be really nice if we could actually see some of the "lesser" speeches tonight between 7-11 pm.  I ended up watching CSPAN most of last night, because you weren't showing all the speeches.  Claire McCaskill, and her kids, were wonderful; it's a shame you didn't give her a bigger audience.  I love Keith with all my heart, but how about cutting back a bit on the commentary and showing more convention tonight, guys?  Thanks!
Hillary will play her role as expected but won't change any of her supporter's mind. At this point, it isn't about her, it's about her gender and how much she was disrespected. Nothing will change the fact the Obama camp played the race card on the Clinton and did not even bother considering her for VP.
Just as blacks will vote for Obama no matter what (skin color talks), many older women will make a PROTEST vote against Obama in November. Women want to show their displeasure to the Democratic Party and there is nothing Hillary can do to change that.
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