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Obama says McCain's service not enough

Posted: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 3:41 PM by Mark Murray
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From NBC/NJ's Athena Jones
BILLINGS, MT -- Obama told a group of veterans and military families here today that McCain’s long career of service was not enough to earn their votes, arguing the Arizona senator would not fight for ordinary Americans.

“I honor John McCain’s service to our country, You know, he served in uniform with honor and distinction,” he said. “We owe him gratitude for that. But we don’t owe him our vote."

He then laid out what he said would be the choice in this election, saying McCain’s tax policies and his plans for the economy would leave average families out.

“Do we have a president who gets that people are struggling everyday, who gets that veterans are struggling everyday? Or do we have somebody who doesn’t get it?,” he asked. “Who wants to give more tax cuts to the big corporations including Exxon-Mobil? $300 billion worth, while leave 100 million people without any tax relief whatsoever?”

The senator was introduced by Sen. Jon Tester, who will fly with him to Denver this afternoon. And Obama praised Gov. Brian Schweitzer for his convention speech last night -- and again complimented Hillary Clinton as well as his wife, Michelle.

“We’ve had a great convention so far. We’ve got -- we’ve had two powerful women speak back to back on each night with Michelle Obama and Hillary Clinton," he said.

Obama spoke for about 20 minutes before taking questions on veterans’ issues, making college affordable, and dealing with high energy prices, arguing that McCain had been "asleep at the switch" when it came to promoting renewable energy.

He reiterated his stance on nuclear energy, contending that while it should be part of the approach to carbon-free energy, it would be hard to expand the use of it until storage and disposal issues are resolved. And he hit McCain for his position on a proposal to store nuclear waste at Nevada's Yucca Mountain.

"Not surprisingly, a whole bunch of people in Nevada were like ‘hold on a second.’ John McCain is in favor of Yucca Mountain, except it turned out that he didn’t want the stuff shipped through Arizona to get to Nevada," he said to laughter from the crowd. "Somebody said we could have used some of his houses as -- That wasn’t my joke, that was this gentleman right here, so I’m not gonna take credit for that one."

The McCain campaign has said Obama was against nuclear power, but the Democrat sought to make it clear that was not the case.

"I do think that nuclear power’s gonna have to be part of the overall mix. We can’t take anything off the shelf," he said.

McCain spokesman Tucker Bounds emailed this response to Obama's speech: “Barack Obama’s attacks are no substitute for experience and good judgment. Sen. Obama’s opposition to the surge, his refusal to support an ‘all of the above’ energy policy, and his opposition to tax relief for small businesses shows that he lacks the experience and judgment to lead. As Obama’s allies gives speeches about national security at his national convention, voters know the world is too dangerous to elect a commander-in-chief with Obama’s inexperience. As Hillary Clinton said, speeches are not the same thing as experience.”

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Meg (Sent Wednesday, August 27, 2008 11:13 AM)
Obama is unqualified for the position.

Meg:

What is being qualified for this position? I suppose it depends on what you personally want in your President. I would guess that a President has to have an understanding of the inner workings of Congress, how bills are written and passed and so on. But cannot a person appoint a few professional insiders to help guide you on these administrative tasks? If so then what other qualifications are you speaking of? That a person have experience as a Commander & Chief or as an Economic expert. How many people have entered this office having previous experience as Commander & Chief of our military forces, or as a true economic expert? How many? I thought so. Is it not true then that a President’s most important qualification is the ability to appoint good people into positions to manage these various departments of our government? If a person were to enter into this office being qualified as you might define it then what is the purpose of a Secretary of State, Secretary of Defense, Secretary of Treasury, EPA Secretary, Attorney General and so on.

No one person would be qualified to be President if they had to meet the qualifications that I am assuming you think they should have and that you state Obama does not have. It is similar to saying that John McCain is qualified to be Commander & Chief and Obama is not, yet John McCain has never had any previous experience as a Commander & Chief. He served in the military and flew a plane and was a POW. But that is not Commander & Chief experience. And that experience of McCain’s does not guarantee that such a person could perform the job of Commander & Chief.  In fact, someone who has never served in the military just might make a better Commander & Chief then a person who has had military experience. If that is not the case then why do we place this important decision making role in the hands of a civilian.  

Frankly, I think many people have no clue of what they mean or what is important regarding a person who is or is not qualified to be President. If it were up to me I would give all candidates a series of psychological and management profile exams. To determine if they were nuts or rationale; if they had an aptitude for leadership; if they were able to get along with different kinds of people; if they were able to work with others as team players; if they were able to absorb and comprehend large amounts of data and material; if they had sensitivity to the needs of others; if they possessed empathy for the problems of others; if they were assertive without being too aggressive; if they were able to read and write and speak fluently; if they were able to solve problems using a proper series of deductions; if they knew how to use proper conflict resolution skills; if they were honest and trustworthy; if they knew how to identify and put to use the strengths of others and to help improve the deficiencies of others, etc.

These are many of the qualifications I would want a person running for President to have. These are the important skills and abilities regardless if they ever flew a plane or worked as a community organizer or were a POW or had attended a prestigious law school.

When you say Obama is not qualified Meg I know where you are coming from and think I have a pretty good idea what you define as qualifications. And if my guess is right then I guess what I am saying is that you have no clue what you are talking about.
NOAA is projecting the potentially high likelyhood of a hurricane slamming into the gulfcoast at the same time Dick and George will be at the podium.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at2+shtml/143014.shtml?5day#contents
Do you think, at this point, Tucker Bounds is tired of speaking hte lies he is forced to utter?
Way to put the clinton comment in again. i cant wait till McCain announces his VP and we can start attacking him with all of the bad things they have said to each other!!
After Clinton's speech last night..his attacks using her words again Obama aren't going to work anymore
To paraphrase Tucker Bounds, "Obama's facts are no substitute for John McCain's desperate need to do and say whatever is necessary to get himself into the White House."
McCain has shown little managerial skill.  His attempts at campaigning, with him driving the bus, were unsuccessful so he gave up and is letting someone completely drive the campaign and not necessarily even including him.  Would be not be in danger of having this happen when he was in office. Oh, yeah, that has happened before.  

Obama appears to be the leader of his campaign and would likely be the leader of the government.  Not so with McCain
Being a POW is not the same thing as experience either Mr. McCain. If you know Washignton is broken - why havent you done anything to fix it during your 26 years in the senate? Old man, you are part of the problem NOT the solution!

OBAMA/BIDEN 08/12
Sorry Tucker. The world would be a lot more dangerous with a hot head like McCain as POTUS.
Yes, McCain deserves gratitude, but not my vote. I actually wish Obama would continue along the lines of General Wesley Clarke's statements--just because a man's been a POW doesn't mean he's ready to be POTUS.
NO WAY ... NO HOW ... NO HILLARY (said barack).
It is McCain who lacks judgement.  He can excuse his lack of judgement because he was a POW. That is not too much of a stretch.  Dementia does impact memory and judgement.
This is exactly the message that has to be repeated over and over.

People need to understand not only why to vote for Obama but also why to NOT vote for McCain.

Message to Senator Obama:  You don't need to constantly be telling us that Senator McCain is a person that you honor and respect.  Honor and respect are earned.  Whatever respect people may have for him for his military service, which was more than several decades ago, is tempered by the fact that he willingly participated in an unjust war, helping to murder millions of innocent civilians - and that his actions since that time have led to a situation in which our country is worse off, our soldiers have once again been asked to kill innocent people in our name for no good reason, and he intends to continue a policy of stealing from the poor and middle class to give to the wealthy.  For this, he gets no respect and we should see him for what he is: a front man for big oil, multinational corporations and the elite 1% of our population.  If he were a "maverick" he could have helped to take steps to stop a war that has resulted in the deaths of a million people in Iraq, displaced another 4 million, given cover to ethnic cleansing, including the persecution of non-Muslims, could have saved the lives of many U.S. military personnel, could have prevented life altering injuries to tens of thousands more - and could have stood up for what is right.  He chose to back President Bush and VP Cheney - two oil men.  Now we have $4.00 per gallon gasoline and the name and image of the U.S. is in tatters because we have failed to represent the ideals for which so many people have fought and died over the last 200+ years.
To Dems;
I'm a Floridian and an independent with a Republican leaning.  I don't understand Barack's reluctance to attack McCain's character.  I think here in the South, people appreciate the ability of people to get things done - FINISH the job.  I watched the CNN biography of McCain and was HORRIFIED!  He destroys a plane, almost got himself killed because he did not study it.  Didn't know where the eject button was.  He says a lot about his POW exp., but gave into the Viet cong to save his ass while other POWs with less hearsay(silver spoon) continued to stay there, then came home, and cheated on his wife for six years because she got fat from a car accident, then the Lincoln Savings, then he disagreed with Reagan and failed to persuade him, and now is invoking him.  He has trouble with the evangelists, and was tempted to join the Dems.  Have you guys forgotten HE is not liked by the majority of the rep. party?  He's getting you guys on the Hillary thing, but don't you get that the Rep. party is about to split too?  People in the South want to see a leader who can get things DONE!  All you have to do is tell the public these FACTS, and then run a campaign saying "Experience?  Experience in failure doesn't count," or something to that affect.  I can't see Obama winning FL.  Race is a factor.  I've heard from several people they will not vote for a N**.  It's horrible yes, but Southerners I think are reluctant because of their past.  They need to be taught this is not a factor in comparison to McCain's entrenched Dangerously "Maverick personality"  Run some ads for christ-sake saying...  Experience in crashing planes?  Experience in leaving your wife?  Experience in marrying into money?  Experience in being blind to drug addiction in your own family?  Experience in getting involved with corporations swindling the people?  Experience giving into the enemy?  Want to be in a plane crash?  Want to be left by your leader?  Want a leader who is going to swindle you and then find a scapegoat?  "I was a POW for 5 years."  Do you want to be a POW for the next 4?  Experience?  Experience in failing doesn't count.  AND HAVE A MEMBER OF THE "VETS for OBAMA" narrate!!!!  You pretty much get all the SOUTH!  You guys are running a weak and horrible campaign and NO ONE here in the South wants to vote for a LOSER!  Come on get with it!  Tell the people the best way to support the troops is to BRING THEM HOME!!!  It's aggravating to watch!
Obama is right.  McCain has no vision for America.  The only vision he has is for himself.  He wants free rides on Air Force One.  He wants an airport named after him.  Or maybe an aircraft carrier.  Yeah, that would be so cool!  He wants to be better than his dad.

Obama 08 - one spouse, one house!

A more pressing question for the nation is whether the greatest Democratic president since JFK will truly endorse the party's nominee apparent, or will he smile, shuck, jive, rock the house and walk away with his marbles and go home to sulk.

Will he send the subliminal message "(Only) four more years!" and walk away with his smirk intact?

In doing so he would turn his back on America, red and yellow, black and white.  He would prove that it has always been about him.

That might not be an election decider, but it will test the mettle of a man tonight and the mettle of those to follow.

On the other hand...

Would it not be cool to have the great Rocker on the side of America again?
McBlinky's service isn't enough and in my opinion  all that leaves is a big fat zero.  A zero in compassion and judgement.  A zero in moral action.  NO WAY NO HOW NO MCCAIN.  To quote Kramer:  Bad Chicken Mess You Up.  Vote for the voice of the future Barack Obama.
Tucker Bounds is an Idiot.  

John McCain's so-called experience got us into Iraq, causing 4500 dead Americans for a mistake.  Obama should say the surge is working if McCain admits that the whole war was wrong and he voted to send 4500 Americans to their deaths for a mistake.

Saying the surge is working is dumb.  It's like being lost in your car in the middle of nowhere , but saying "at least we're making good time!"  

McCain's so-called experience did not give him the vision to see that voting against the MLK holiday was WRONG.  What does he have against equality for all Americans?  

His so-called experience did not give him the clairvoyance to see that voting against a bill that would guarantee equal pay for women for equal work was WRONG.  What does he have against Women getting paid the same as men?

McCain's so-called experience did not give him the vision not to have anything to do with the Keating 5.  

McCain voted against a bill that would have government agencies purchase Harley-Davidson motorcycles - an American company - for their fleets.  This would keep employed many thousands of Americans.  But he voted against it, saying that the American government should buy foreign.  What does he have against the American worker and family.


To me, the choice is clear.  AND I'M A REPUBLICAN, too bad John McCain is NOT.

I wish the MSM would speak to the POWs that were around when he was.

They say he was NOT a hero.  His nickname was SONGBIRD and he had a personal nurse and stayed in a hotel room because they knew who his daddy was!  He broke his OWN ARMS because he did not hold them in when he ejected, like he was taught to do.  PLUS he was out drinking the night before.

He also had his military records sealed so they won't see the light of day... because if they were to become public, he would be run out of the country!

No More Pain - Don't Vote Mccain !!!!
Hillary looked beautiful, calm, and peaceful when she took the stage. That's what selflessness will do for you. I was not sure if she could do as well as Michelle. She was better. Palpably, Michelle had to dig herself out, and a lot to lose. Hillary had nothing to lose, and everything to gain of love, and admiration. With her words, and spirit, she gathered her reward like a champion taking flowers tossed at her feet.

One of the obvious thing that has not been properly analysed about McCain is his experience and judgement.  McCain has great experience in fighting and a lot of poor judgement, both of which sums up to 95% of what you see in George Bush.   I cannot imagine how someone can fail so badly and still questions someone else's judgement.  McCain is a soldier not a Leader and America needs a leader not McCain.  

   
Call and Email Sinclair Broadcasting and tell them to stop running the false ads against Obama. Below is the Email I sent them today.

http://www.sbgi.net/contact/contact.shtml

Corporate Headquarters

Sinclair Broadcast Group, Inc.
10706 Beaver Dam Road
Hunt Valley, Maryland 21030
410-568-1500 (Main Telephone)
410-568-1533 (Main Fax)

Your choice to run the false anti-Obama ad by Christian Pinkston and the Swift-Boat style group is un-American and unacceptable. We will contact all of your advertisers forcing them to cancel advertising with all your stations if you do not pull this false ad from your stations immediately. We will have an election this year based on polices and the future of America not misleading ads that try and distract us from the real issues. Anything less will not be tolerated and your advertisers will face boycott and loss of income. Do what is right for your bottom line and America and cancel all ads with this group now and in the future. Thank you.
Obama has plans not for quixotic foreign wars but for solid, well thought-out plans for the economy, education (McCain does not address education), energy (with T-Bone Pickens!), health care, and more.  The McCain campaign offers only band-aids typified by the "drill now" mantra that even McCain says will only have a "psychological" effect on gas prices.

Worse than that, we have learned this summer that McCain's trigger-happy temperment and reactionary policies offer worse than no change.  McCain is a bridge not to the future, but back to the Bush policies and to Vietnam and the cold war.  

Obama will navigate the fast-moving changes of the 21st century; McCain will put America on hold.
He's SO close to saying that being a POW doesn't qualify you to be President.  But it needs to be said.

I wish the MSM would speak to the POWs that were around when he was.

They say he was NOT a hero.  His nickname was SONGBIRD and he had a personal nurse and stayed in a hotel room because they knew who his daddy was!  He broke his OWN ARMS because he did not hold them in when he ejected, like he was taught to do.  PLUS he was out drinking the night before.

He also had his military records sealed so they won't see the light of day... because if they were to become public, he would be run out of the country!

No More Pain - Don't Vote Mccain !!!!
Hey Chuck,

If McCain is announcing his VP choice on Friday at noon in Dayton and they are driving to SW PA, then Joe Lieberman CANNOT be his VP since Joe would not travel on the Jewish Sabbath. You can report that he would be definitely out given the scheduled rollout.
As a service man myself - whom have served in two wars - I am so happy to see Barack Obama telling it like it is when it comes to John McCain's past military experiences.

John McCain - continue to use his POW status as a reason to be qualified as President.

But he has done nothing for his fellow Comrades...in fact he has done the contrary.

John McCain - uses his POW status to received empathy, also just like he suggested to use his wife as a "white tee-shirt" contestant.  

He has no shame – in his eyes everything and everybody is at his disposable.

He has no real agenda - only to continue George Bush's policies and be a puppet for the oil companies.

It's now time to slam John McCain - real hard!! Extremely hard – YOU JOHN MCCAIN WILL NOT WIN THIS ELECTION.

Thank you and GOD BLESS AMERICA
Actually, getting shot down is not a good thing, nor does it show competance.

Secondly, getting torured, shot, and stabbed, is more than likely to have some long lasting psychological effects that are not likely to wear off.  God Bless the Old Man for that..........But do we really want him making decisions for the U.S.?  

Like the GENERAL said--getting shot down doesn't even qualify McCain to be a good pilot, let alone a good president!
To Meg and others that think the way you do:

What qualifications did Bush have?  What qualifications did Bill Clinton have? What qualifications does McCain have? Based on your logic, the ones just mentioned were/are all qualified. Let's tell it like it is.  The only difference in the above three and Obama is the skin color. Yes, that's right.  No one wants to say it, but it's the truth. I will say it loud and clear, What you and other are saying is,  Barack Obama isn't qualified because he is black.

This is a tired and pathetic trope since the republicans have NO issues on their side and they happen to think that having a candidate who suffered as a POW makes him a qualified commander-in-chief although how that qualifies him continues to boggle my mind since all his judgements have been poor and his temperament impaired.
C A, Tuscaloosa, AL --

Absolutely agree with you.  And the Megs of the world don't/won't get it.  Excellent exposition, and you will persuade some; maybe many.  But I'm guessing that Meg is unreachable.

To your evidence I'd add the excellent campaign that Barack Obama has run so far.  Such things don't happen accidentally or by chance.  That primary win was the result of superior leadership and management (and a little luck).

Obama is as ready to lead as just about any modern President.

Obama/Biden '08
The only people qualified to be President are ex presidents. They are the only people who actually had the job.
Plea to Hillary supporters,

I understand the disappointment. I understand how you feel Hillary was the better candidate, and maybe she truly was. She obviously has a huge amount of supporters and they showed that support in giving her over 18,000,000 votes in the primaries. She's a great woman and she gave an amazing speech last night. What I took from her words was that we are all in this together. She asked for all of her supporters to look inside themselves for the true reasons they were supporting her candidacy. She asked everyone to come together and unite behind our ideals and to not be divided by our disappointment. We all want the same things for our families: to be able to live in a country where we can reach our goals, where we can provide a safe life for our children, where we can provide a good education for our children, etc. This is what Hillary wanted for everyone as well.

It comes down to choice. We have a choice. We can support the person who wants these same things for us and the person Hillary herself thinks can provide them or we can support the person who believes that everything is fine the way it is and that there is no room for improvement. We can support the person who believes women have every right to equal treatment, equal pay, equal rights, or we can support the person who believes that women don't deserve those things and has acted accordingly.

If you truly believe that John McCain is the person who will work towards these goals and ideals, then you have every right to vote for him. But if we really look at who most closely represents the ideals of Hillary, and who will work towards the same goals as hers, then the choice should be Barack Obama. This isn't about party, this is about all our families, and friends who want a brighter future. To get this country where we all would like it to be. We can do this, but we need everyone working together. With all of Hillary's supporters joining together with Obama's supporters, we can acheive the goals we have set for ourselves. We NEED to do this. Please support Barack Obama. WE NEED YOU ALL!!!

Thank you.


I am  a democrat and I support Barack, but I'm sorry, I just cannot follow the crowd on this one.  

Regarding Hillary's speech last night, I do not think she "hit a grand slam or scored it out of the park".  She did the very minimal of what she was required to do to protect her own future political ambitions.  

If Hillary had not carried an all out assault on Barack's character and experience, during the primaries, as opposed to presenting her own case as to why we should elect her--considering her experience is no greater than his, then her speech with it's generic support of Barack,  would have been adequate.  But since she and her stooges, are the sole cause of the reason "damage control" was needed in the first place, she should have just grinned and bear with it, and bent over backwards giving reasons why Barack is more than ready to occupy this position, especially against an old, senile, gun-toting lunatic, not just that she will support him because a democrat needs to be elected.  

Oh, and the way she tore into McCain, what a joke.  Those cute little jokes about Bush and McCain being twins would have been fine, if like I said, she had not assassinated Barack's character and stuck to the issues.  The republicans are thanking her profusely for schooling them in advance on how to continue tearing down Barack with a pack of lies and distortions, and they have continued where she left off.  They even had enough material to make their own disgusting ads, featuring guess who, playing the lead.  

If Hillary had conducted herself  during the primaries, like she did last night, she probably would have been the nominee, but she isn't, and I didn't appreciate the event turning into a celebration for her.  The video,  the Hillary signs, and her speech were obviously what she had planned to use when she thought she was destined to be nominated, and it was totally inappropriate.  

For those Hillary addicts who say I am biased against the Clinton's, save it.  I voted for Bill twice, and I was even prepared to accept her as VP, before she showed how low she could go against a fellow democrat and then tried to send out subliminal messages of assassination to her most disturbed followers.  For those of you who still cannot understand why Barack did not choose her as his running mate, those are the reasons.  I don't think you would be able to work closely for the next four or eight years with someone who did those appalling things to you, so don't expect him to.  For those who are still looking for reasons not to vote for Barack, then go ahead and vote for McWar, but don't act surprised when you find this country in more wars and a draft of your sons and daughters, no upwards change in the economy, more lies, deceit, and freedoms being taken away.  If there's one thing I can say about McSame, he's already let you know what he's going to do -- check out his latest ad featuring military tanks, bombs and missiles.

Obama//Biden 08


   
Swing and a miss, Tucker.
Nice start Obama!  No more POW defense to every F@#$% thing!  WHAT ARE YOUR POLICIES McDIRT!??  How are you gonna help me???  At least I KNOW what Obama wants to do . . . what about you???

Maybe Obama is too polite or maybe it's an unspoken taboo in politics but McCain needs to stop LYING!!!  'Inaccurate', 'misleading', 'construed', 'contorted': ALL BS, Obama!  They are nice words but the average joe out there calls it: LYING!!!!  McCain is a mean spirited old LIAR who has NO SUBSTANCE!  After all those years he is nothing more than a dried out exoskeleton of an insect, a cockroach!  McCain what are your policies!???
This has nothing to do with this article but I have to get it off my chest...Why is it that so many people are saying the speech Hillary gave was proof we nominated the wrong person...I agree with most when they sya it was very presidential but how can you have this opinion without first hearing what Obama has to say Thursday...The guy who came in second in the 100 meter dash at the olympics would look like the fastest in the world if Usain Bolt had not been in the race...CAN YOU SEE MY POINT???
It about time someone mention that McCain's war record does not give him automatic entry to the White House. How many years ago was that How many other soldiers were POW's and don't use it as a crutch.
Excellent post, C A, Tuscaloosa, AL.

It's been on my mind to ask all these folks who say he is not ready to be president or not qualified to be president etc etc., on what exactly they mean. One of the main qualities is honesty and you can see where G Bush and J McCain stand on that. All of J McCain's ads are total lies ( factcheck.org ).

 I think you should post this multiple times so that it can get through to all these people who think washington experience is what qualifies people for presidentship.

Although Obama is younger than McCain, I believe that he has a broader range of types of experiences than McCain has.  McCain has been in the military and in the Senate.  What else?

Obama, on the other hand, has already worked in a variety of settings, all worthy of preparing someone to serve as president: 3 years as a community organizer (helping to rebuild poor heignborhoods), 12 years as a professor-teaching constitutional law-while also working as a civil rights lawyer, 8 years in the state senate of Illinois, and 2 years in the United States senate.  He has many kinds of experiences, all of which make him well-qualified to be President of the U.S. Plus, he has shown good judgment calling the Iraq War a "dumb war" and arguing against it; calling for a time table for pulling out our troops (which everyone is referring to now),voting for vets' rights; supporting women's rights; voting to support the development of alternative energy; acknowledging the false promise of a "gas tax holiday"; speaking out for the rights of the poor and jobless in America, or as Hilliary puts it, "the invisible ones".

Obama has the right experience, judgment, intelligence, and compassion to be our next President!
If experience was the only factor in determining our Presidents we would have bypassed some of the greatest Presidents in our history. Just take a look for yourself. Ideas and judgement also factor into the decision and should not be ignored.

http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Info/experience.html
Nice one CA!  Meg, sorry you DO have NO CLUE!!
As a Vietnam Vet I am pissed that John McCain thinks that he is qualified to be president because he was a prisoner of war ! How sad is that ? He keeps saying that he is ready to lead, I have yet to hear WHAT HAS HE EVER LEAD? What qualifies him to be president? he has been is the senate for 26 years, what has he done ?
I want one of his voters to answer these questions, I BET YOU CAN'T !
Mike from 3:54,
All mercs understand that they're paid to do a job. They don't get tired of cashing the checks and therefore they do not get tired of the charachter assasinations/hits, oops, I meant mistruths, they must shovel to the media.

Divine from 3:54, by the way, it's DI not DE, but I digress,
I'm hoping that Bush and Cheney do get to speak.  This way, we can all see once and for all that Senator McCain embraces up on stage, the current policies that have been utterly disastrous.  I mean, how do you take a surplus and turn it into a $10 trillion deficit?  And then cut taxes on top of that?

My personal hope is that the moderator, after the conventions end next Thursday, will screen out just plain old idiocy with nothing backing it up and instead replace posts that at least make sensical points.
For example, "I was for Hillary and now I'm for McCain."  To me, that's idiocy.
If you were to say, I was for Hillary but now I'm for McCain because of this policy issue 1), 2), and 3), that's sensical.  Well, sensical in that you back up your point with facts. Or, you link something that positions your point such as a video.
Of course, if you were for Hillary and now for McCain, you'll be pushed to show that Hillary too had those same positions.  

Hey, MSNBC, how about stepping up to the challenge?
Obama, stats show your tax cuts would be 3% and McCain's 2%.  And, for both of you, the cuts for the "middle class" are about the same. I wouldn't say that's a HUGE difference!  

Being a veteran doesn't qualify one to be President but neither does hanging out with convicted felons, taking shady house deals, naming your mentor as Communist Frank Marshall Davis, naming as your "family member and mentor" Irreverent Wright, hanging out with a domestic terrorist Wm Ayers, hanging out with racist and mysoginist Rev Pfleger, nor does attending the Saul Alinksy school of socialism.  Go back to Chicago, your commie friends are waiting.
You're experience isn't enough Barry.

You're 100% liberal voting record isn't enough Barry.

You're accomplishments aren't enough Barry.

You being so naive isn't enough Barry.

Your're energy plan, or lack there of, isn't enough Barry.

You're surrender first attitude isn't enough Barry.

Your rhetoric of Hope isn't enough Barry.

Your rhetoric of Change isn't enough Barry.

You're not enough Barry.

it's true: being a POW 40 years ago does not qualify one to be president in an age of advanced technologies, global economies, energy politics, and changing democgraphics and wealth.  McCain has shown a remarkable propensity to explot the real war horror he endured, and which deswerves respect, to get past the fact that he doesn't know the names of nations in 2008, the names of world leaders, major religious sects, or international borders. He was a POW, yes, and he still is, but not POW means prisoner of words not kept on fiscal resposibility, climate change, immigration, lobbyist influence, housing, balanced trade, and jobs for Americans. I see the appeal of the old soldier, but who'd really follow this guy--who has never commanded anything or anyone in battle beyond his own plane--into a major military commitment? We can't let respect for the past outweigh our need to pick the smartest guy we can get to take the job of cleaning up the colossal mess of the last eight years, and building a better future for the country. The truth is that McAi is now running on lies and his POW status of 40 years ago. It's high time Obama makes him answer for the last 26 years in the Congress, and his virtual absence from the Senate for the last sixteen months. Maybe it's part of being McMaverick to only show up for work when his party is in the majority so he can oppose it.  
Here is the botton line in this election right now. If you are a Democrat and believe in Democratic values
there is no way you can vote against Obama, I was a Hillary supporter and you know what, I am smart enough to know that McCain does not share those values. I belived in everything Hillary was trying to promote and Obama was not that far off. They disagreed on how we get there, but they had the same goals. So, how could you be a Democrat and Hillary supporter and not vote for Obama. I'll tell you how. You have to be a feminist or a racist. Because if you lined both of thier ideas up side by side and did not attach a face or gender to the ideas, you could not tell them apart. They are Democrats with Democrat ideas and values. So, Wake the @#!*& up Democrats and get these @#%!#% Republicans out of office. Our future is at stake and all people can think about is gender and the color of someones skin. It is 2008 not 1808.

A Proud Democrat 2008
I think the most important thing about John McCain is his voteing record. If it is just put out there for the people to see, most people have no idea who
McCain is. I get so tired of ( we just dont know who Obama is). Well its McCain the people of this country dont know. Its time for someone, maybe Joe Biden tonight or even President Clinton to tell the people how he  votes , what he thinks about women, the famous
temper, the fact he is a lot like bush, not to smart.
I have read a lot about this man in the last 3 months.
Hopefully its not all true. I didnt like the swift boaters but what if the things they say about McCain are true. A lot of Viet Nam vets are doing a lot of talking about him laying up in a hotel room while they
were really pow's. Again I dont know that to be the truth, maybe the media could check that, instead of
pretending to be reporters, and telling me what I think. I am not finacially able to move out of this country like a lot of people talk about, but if this
pitiful excuse of a man is our next president, I will be glad to take some rich persons money to get out of Dodge, I know someone will offer, I know I have told plenty of people if they didnt like the U.S. to just get out. That was back when I was proud of America.

Obama/Biden
I think it's rather hilarious that "Bush Hugger" McCain keeps harping on experience and judgment.  While he's long on experience he's not learned a damned useful thing as to how to govern wisely.  He has never shown good judgment so he is the last person to talk about judgment.

A noun, a verb and POW is no recipe for good governance.  If anything his being a POW only proves that "I Surrender" McCain has proven he will surrender to the enemy and we can't afford this false war hero to surrender our country to our enemies.  He's already surrendered millions of good paying union jobs to China just to help his decrepit political party gain political advantage.  Makes him the real deal as far as a "Manchurian Candidate" goes.

We need a real leader like John F. Kennedy and only Barack Obama fills that bill.  Like Kennedy Obama will not overreact and turn some crisis into nuclear war.  "Bomb Bomb Bomb" McCain will succumb to the hawks and will start a nuclear holocaust if he's elected.

I saw some really stupid header on MSNBC tv a while ago asking if Bill Clinton will outshine Joe Biden in their speeches.  Since when did these speeches become some debating competition?  Come on MSNBC you can be smarter than Fox or CNN are  and not put up these nonsensical headers that are just plain stupid.  Who cares which one gives the better speech?  So what if one or the other outshines the other.  They're on the same team and each will give an excellent speech in his own style with his own message.

Go Obama/Biden 08/12!
CAN WE CALL A SPADE A SPADE???????

FOR ALL THOSE HILLARY SUPPORTERS WHO STILL WANT TO VOTE FOR MCCAIN...YOU ARENT VOTING FOR MCCAIN BECAUSE OF HIS EXPERIENCE...YOU ARE VOTING FOR HIM BECAUSE HE IS WHITE AND THIS IS WHAT YOU ARE COMFORTABLE WITH

HILLARY(THE PERSON YOU ALL LOVE SO MUCH) EXPLAINED TO YOU WHY YOU SHOULD VOTE DEMOCRATIC AND YOU STILL DONT LISTEN....YOU  ARE TRULY A LOST CAUSE

EXPAND YOUR COMFORT ZONE PEOPLE (HE IS PART WHITE YOU KNOW) AND JOHN MCCAIN IS AN EXPERIENCED REPUBLICAN THAT DOES NOT LIKE WOMEN HAVING THE SAME RIGHTS AS MEN BUT I GUESS HAVING A PRESIDENT WHO LOOKS LIKE YOU MATTERS MORE THAN HAVING A PRESIDENT WHO HAS YOU CORE BELIEFS


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