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GOP continues to charge sexism

Posted: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 3:39 PM by Mark Murray
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From MSNBC.com’s Andy Merten
ST. PAUL, MN -- At a press conference here at the GOP convention, female supporters of McCain gave the media a scolding for what they perceive as unfair and sexist treatment of Palin since she was unveiled as McCain's running mate five days ago.

“We’re not going to have this foolishness,” said Renee Amore, Pennsylvania Republican Party Deputy Chairman. “You can do what you want to do, but we’re going to keep coming back at you,” she added in a chastising tone.

Amore was joined by several other female McCain supporters, who decried rumors circulating on the Internet, which include accusations that Palin faked a pregnancy and that she has belonged to a fringe political group of which some members support Alaska’s secession from the United States. (Palin might not have belonged to the group, but her husband did.)

VIDEO: NBC's Andrea Mitchell speaks with McCain adviser Carly Fiorina about Republican charges of sexism in coverage of Palin.

Former Massachusetts Gov. Jane Swift, the only other US governor who has given birth in office, called it an “outrageous smear campaign,” likening the treatment of Palin to accusations of sexism against Sen. Hillary Clinton, during her run for the presidency.

“The Democrats will allow you to talk about Hillary the way you did. You see us up here -- we will not allow you to do that,” added Amore.

They highlighted Palin’s executive experience as governor, stressing her management of Alaska’s 24,000 state employees and its $10 billion budget, and pointed out lack of any such experience on Obama’s resume.

Asked if she would have selected as her successor someone with experience running a much smaller company, former Hewlett Packard CEO and current chair of RNC Victory 2008 Carly Fiorina said, “The size of the company, just like the size of the state, is much less relevant than the nature of the decisions that have to be made.”

And while the group continued to point out Obama’s lack of executive experience, when asked to point out an example of McCain “running something,” the only example that was cited was his military experience -- running a Navy squadron.

Fiorina was also asked if Hillary Clinton has ever been subjected to sexist attacks from the Republican Party, to which she said no -- amidst disbelieving chuckles among the press corps. And in an appeal to female voters who might have previously supported Clinton, Fiorina said, “Her run for the presidency was historic,” adding: “People of any political party owe a debt of gratitude to Hillary Clinton."

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It's only sexism when there's an inexperienced republican woman running for the second highest office in the land. Otherwise, it's all just liberal whining.
Wouldn't the easiest way to combat this sexist talk be to actually answer questions about Palin's readiness to be Vice President and President?
Oh please shut up already. Stop bringing it up then no one mentions it anyway. It's not her gender but her qualifications that make people up in arms about her nomination!

There is no way she could possibly appeal to Hilary voters. In fact, this is an insult to HRC.
I have not decided whom I will vote for but I have been trying to keep a close eye
on this year election cycle, I am an Independent.

From what I can see thus far the media keeps Giving McCain a free pass.
GOD forbid if Obama had done some of the things that McCain has done
so far, they would tear into Obama like a pit bull.

To pick Sara Palin as a VP nominee McCain is trying to pick off the Hillary supporters.

Talk about judgment this guy has no judgment what-so-ever.


McCain,  really do think that we women are stupid.  Just because he  has picked a woman as his running mate
he thinks that now we will all vote for him.

So all  my Hillary supporters I will say to you that if you do play this
game with McCain & the republicans you/we will regret it from the get go.

If you look at the issues that Hillary stands for and the issues that Sara stands for you will see a
very BIG difference between the two (2.) Do your research and find out for yourselves before it is too late.

Hillary & McCain supporters are so BIG on experience.

Well look closely at Palin`s experience compared to everyone else and be very honest with yourself
what experience does she have?  Probably more than McCain does.
Will she be ready if something should happen to McCain?

McCain & Palin have the exact same views with no differences between them whatsoever.
Hillary & Obama have the exact same views with small differences and we all know them.

Palin had started to say that you all (Hillary supporters) can come onboard with her and McCain,
but how can that be if she and McCain has the same views and plan for our future.

She states that GOD has given us the right to be in Iraq. Does she have a direct line with GOD and he tells
only her and the republicans what needs to be done in this great BIG country of ours?

She and her husband are part of a party that is trying to secede Alaska from the United States,
the AIP (Alaska Independence Party.) There is so much on this issue that it is truly scary to read and hear.

LOOK UP AIP = Palin is still a party member, she will not attend the usual meeting and gatherings as long as she is the VP nominee.
The republicans will use/say that she is a registered republican,  which do not mean that she is not involved with the AIP.
I urge you all to research this woman and choose wisely there are a few videos that have been pulled from the internet,
but keep looking, someone has develop a way to put these on you tube and my space better yet Google Alaska independence Party
you will find some surprising things about this person and her husband.

McCain picked Palin because the republican party would not let him pick Lieberman,
so she was someone that he choose without a complete vetting process.

Just think about it for a moment,  the media is owned by the republicans why else would
they not securitize the McCain campaign as they have done to Hillary & Obama.  

They (the media) keep harping on McCain is a hero, well guess what he got caught why does that make him a hero.
Why is it that when it comes to the issues that concerns us Americans he has to be spoon fed responses back to give to the public?
He does nothing but attack Obama because he has nothing else but the same old bush agenda/policies.
He knows that we already knows bush agenda/policies as we have lived thru them so he attacks.

I say it is time the media start asking McCain some of the hard questions they have been asking Obama.

We need some clarifications from you McCain on the issues that hits the American people.

What do you stand for other than I WAS A P.O.W.....

Give us some details on your policies.......

Tell us how your policies will change the directions of America future for the better...............

Give us some information as to where we are headed in this new world that is here..............

Tell us how we will compete with China now that we owe them every dime we make..........

Stop the bashing and get to the real issues that has plagued us for the last 7-8 years…………

Give us answers as to what Iraq will do with all that OIL that you & bush have falsely sent
to WAR over our SONS & DAUGHTERS to DIE for.......
BILLIONS of dollars spent every month over there that could have  been spent on building
new schools in poor communities to educate our children.
BILLIONS of dollars spent every month over there that could have been spent on the
improvement of the BIRDGES & ROADS in these here USA cities.
This guy should have to answer some of these questions and FR you need to have someone
ask him them.

This guy knows nothing about what Americans are going thru. He is so very  out of touch.
I for one am tired of the P.O.W. answer to every question that is asked of him.
Sure he was a P.O.W., but PLEASE tell me how does that qualify you to be POTUS,
can someone answer this one for me?
POW`s are tired of him using this as an excuse for everything.

No, Not This Time.........Time To Stop The Madness,
Time To Stop The republicans.......

He is out dated, old, and knows nothing of this new world that has developed right
before his eyes, he cannot keep up with progress he is stuck in the past.

No Way

No How

No McCain
Someone is always whispering in his ear and the man can`t remember anything,
do we really want that in the WH?

Sara does not feel the same way that Hillary does about women issues and family
values and she sure doesn`t believe that believe that a women has the right to choose
what to do with their bodies.  She and McCain will overturn Roe .v. Wade.

So be careful all my Hillary supporters as to whom you vote for or there will be no
peace in America for the years ahead of us.


Peace  Out….
They can level any charges they think help them win the election, because as McCain's campaign has told the Washington Post, this election isn't about issues in the eye of the GOP. But this election is really about issues of deep cocnern to voters, and those issues include the economy, the botched Iraq war, and the looming crisis in Europe.
The GOP seems to always win elections on a platform of trickery.
Funny they should mention the Clintons. Just when I thought there couldn't be a bigger three ring circus than Bill and Hillary here comes John and Sarah.

These people are delusional if they think I'm putting my children's future in their hands.
The AIP now has 13,689 registered voters as members, that’s not our count, that’s the State of Alaska, they count them for us, we don’t have to keep track of them.  That’s a little more than 300 up from last year’s conference.  Our current governor, we mentioned at the last conference, the one we were hoping would get elected, Sarah Palin, did get elected.  There’s a joke, she’s a pretty good looking gal, there’s a joke goes around we’re the coldest state with the hottest governor.   And there was a lot of talk about her moving up.  She was an AIP member before she got the job as a mayor of a small town – that was a non-partisan job.  But you get along to go along – she eventually joined the Republican Party, where she had all kinds of problems with their ethics, and well, I won’t go into that.   She also had about an 80% approval rating, and is pretty well sympathetic to her former membership.  Both of our senators to the American Congress are under investigation and there are pretty good stories going around.  One is under sealed indictment and this is the result of the oil lobby(?), there is bribery and fraud charges and oil money is buying what they want in Alaska.  The royalty share in Alaska of oil, I don’t know if you have the numbers in front of you what your own state gets like Texas..., in Alaska the royalty share is 12.5%!  I mean ?? sharecropper did better than that.  The people of Alaska from what I’ve heard in this room and several other areas are fed up.  And if ever there was a time that is ripe for change, this is it.   On our own situation, we’ve discussed several options.  Do we try to get our case into the International Court of Justice?  Or to the World Court?  Several of the native Alaskan organizations are taking that route independent of us.  They want to do it on their terms.  They haven’t realized in my mind what the potential of their own political party which there are pitfalls of an organized political party.  You don’t have any control over who joins that party.  They put the X next to it on the registration form, and if they go to the primary and win that primary, they’re your candidate, like it or not.  I think Ron Paul has kinda proven that – he’s a dyed-in-the wool libertarian, he came to Alaska and spoke as a libertarian, and put the Republican label on it to get elected, that’s all there is to it.   And any one of your organizations should be using that same tactic.  You should infiltrate – I know the Christian Exodus(?) is in favor of it, the Free State movement  is in favor of it – I don’t think they even care which party it is.  Whichever party in that area you can get something done, get into that political party, even though it does have its problems.  Right now that is one of the only avenues.  And you get a few people on a city council or a ??? you can have some effect.  I kind of digressed there a little bit.
Please yall can kiss my ass!
Gee they break the story then cry foul when questioned about it. That is a very sneaky tactic. Underhanded politics rule the GOP. By the way does GOP stand for Goofy Old Pricks.
What a joke.  Just remember the GOP are being racist when they criticize Obama.

See how silly that is ?  See what I did there ?  The press should not stand and allow a party to tell them what they can ask and what they cannot.  This is a free country, and the public deserves a free press.
And the GOP is right. Democrats and Obama's campaign should be ashamed of the way they have smeared this woman. Just like with the blacks, all the Democrats want out of women is their vote. After that, women  should not be seen and not be heard.
Again, Fiorina has no room to talk, as she ruined HP completely.
Palin's daughter's pregnancy is NOT the problem; and never has been; despite the GOP's attempts to paint events subsequent to the McCain VP announcement as though DEMs are personally attacking Palin.

The problem here is that McCain's campaign had stated that this potential VP candidate was properly vetted, and qualified for the position. Yet the events after the announcement have stacked up seriously against that being the case. If the vetting had taken place, and all of these "issues" were known by the McCain Campaign; why were these issues not properly disclosed by the campaign? If the candidate was not properly vetted; then why not?

If a candidate cannot handle the "issues" they claim to have known about all along; then why is it forbidden to question their JUDGEMENT??! If the average voter can figure out that some of these Palin issues would be cause for concern with the electorate; why on earth did a supposedly professional group of campaign managers allow these issues to come into the media focus without benefit of their campaign's position(s) on those issues being clear?

I will defend the Palin's family problems as "their personal and PRIVATE problems" without reservation. I have heard and seen Barack Obama do the same.

I cannot however, forgive or forget the mismanagement demonstrated by the McCain campaign. To allow these issues to come out in such an uncontrolled fashion is unforgivable with respect to how the involved young people's lives will be affected both now and in the future. To say "we did not forsee these developments" as a political campaign, strains the credulity of any one who lives in today's society.

To witness a GOP convention that does nothing, and says nothing to acknowledge the current economic plight of our nation's people is also deeply disheartening, and frankly unacceptable. Americans are in despair that there are no solutions or proposals coming from the GOP. This cannot continue. Republicans; this nation deserves better!!
Hilary please come out and tell this wannabe to stop insulting your legacy and stop taking credit for it - or wanting to benefit from it. PLEASE!
whaaaaa...

The politics of personal destruction flow both ways and the republicans have it coming in spades.
Where is the Main Stream Media? What are the thoughts and ideas of Sarah Palin? She is an elected official. She ran for state-wide office. Let's see a summary of her thoughts, ideas and positions. It is not a test tonight to learn whether she can read the words that have been written for her to read by a Republican wordsmith. Of course she can. She was a sportscaster and she knows how to read from a teleprompter. What does she think? Where does she want to see this nation go in the next ten years? What issues are important to her?

To the Mainstream Media:  Do your job and tell us who Sarah Palin is and why John McCain chose her to be his #1 advisor for the next four years in the second most important position in the world.
Wasn't it "whining"  when Hillary claimed sexism???  Double standard much?
It's not sexism -- it's the vetting of a completely unknown candidate (save for Alaska).  What is sexist about asking questions?

http://thepajamapundit.com/
It is NOT SEXIST to ask about her experience and to ask her to state & define her positions on politcal issues.

It is NOT SEXIST to ask for examples to back up her claims at C-in-C experience, polical reform, tax & debt policies, foreign relations and education.

It is NOT SEXIST to ask that the McCain campaign be truthful about their vetting process.

The women making these claims are embarrassing themselves.
Bull-hockey--

Palin, stand up and take it like a man.
Fiorina was also asked if Hillary Clinton has ever been subjected to sexist attacks from the Republican Party, to which she said no -- amidst disbelieving chuckles among the press corps.

But Facts are silly things, aren't they?

Que the truth:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2008/sep/02/women.johnmccain
Renee Amore:

You are going to have exactly what you deserve.  We have the right to know what this woman stands for (which is pretty suspicious at best) as well as the personal characteristics that she brings to to office of the Vice Presidency.  How DARE you try to tell the American people that we have no right to the knowledge about what looks like a pretty inferior candidate?  

I think an apology is in order.

Republicans for Hillary??? Are you kidding me? The only way yhey can fight is to blame the press. I think the press should do more! They would if her name were Obama
Former Massachusetts Gov. Jane Swift, the only other US governor who has given birth in office, called it an “outrageous smear campaign,” likening the treatment of Palin to accusations of sexism against Sen. Hillary Clinton, during her run for the presidency.
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Jane Swift, that's an interesting statement since it was Mitt Romney who drove you out of office so he could be the governor, and then President. And he had a lot of right wing help in this state to achieve his goal. And in case anyone hadn't noticed, he succeeded.

They always do when they are hanging onto the arm of the Bush Administration. Karl Rove wanted Mitt Romney as McCain's VP.

It was all set up that way.
Who are the "whiners"?  The press is vetting her. They don'tcontrol what voters this is or is not relevant.  As a woman how her career decisions affect her family are an important issue to me?  Whether she is really a reformer is important?  It seems she has made a lot of missteps in her short career.  American voters have a right to know and th emedia has a right to report without being pressured with sexism claims.

The GOP is always trying to conntrol the press.   The do so effectively when it comes to John McCain.  But the American public is tiring of that.
Youo can compare a decorated veteran who left three limbs on the battle field with Osama Bin Ladin, but questioning the VP candidate's qualifications - that's sexism! (If it's a woman. A black male you can hint is a secret terrorist, but you nattering naybobs of negativism STOP doing anything but completely acceptung Johnny-gone-crazy's pandering choice of VP JUST BECAUSE SHE'S A TOTALLY STUPID CHOICE (and a woman).
It is starting to seem as though the media will not be allowed to question Palin at all, unless they agree to following Republican talking points. I truly hope that they won't be bullied into submission.
The Conservative media bias is running on all cylinders now to defend their hastily picked, poorly vetted, religious extremist VP choice. The GOP is scared and now defending the poor pick by screams of sexism. Looks pretty desperate to me. If you don’t believe me just watch FOX noise for a few minutes and you will see how scared they really are with all of the defensive stories they are running for her. Sad. Really sad
If you're a liberal woman, you're adored by the MSM (see Michelle Obama and Hillary for details). If you're a conservative woman, well, you see how "those" people are treated. The media in this country really needs to be upgraded. They should require high school diplomas or something before they put someone on camera.
Yeah, Mc Cain ran his airplane into a lake.

Good Job,, Good Job.

Not
The irony here is how receptive America's ears are to screams of sexism while being so refractory to claims of racism.  Not saying either does or doesn't exist; just think about it...
It's so sexist to think that she should have to testify. Women governors are always exempt from investigations. Only democrats and minorities should be subject to intense scrutiny of their professional and personal conduct. You angry liberals need to back off this woman.

Donna, Lincroft, NJ (Sent Wednesday, September 03, 2008 2:31 PM)
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it is reverse sexism to claim that just because a candidate is female that she doesn't have to answer the same questions as a man, african american, hispanic, asian, martian, or whatever would in the same situation.

The fact that any questioning of the candidate results in the cries of racism/sexism confirms that the Republicans have something to hide (again...) and will do anything to keep the truth covered up.  

it is about time we got some politicians who are about the issues, not the name calling and smearing that has dominated our political landscape for the past 10 years.  

Donna, your comment highlights how out of touch you are.  you better make sure that McCain is compensating you for your time in posting this filth, because your conscience has got to be hard to live with.

http://horneddevil.proboards98.com/index.cgi?board=idpoliticsboard
WOW!

THIS IS AN INSULT TO WOMEN!!

IF SHE WAS SUCH A GREAT MOTHER THAN WHY IS HER DAUGHTER KNOCKED UP!

WHY IS SHE NOT ATTENDING TO HER SPECIAL NEEDS INFANT!

BECAUSE SHE PUT POLITICS BEFORE MOTHERHOOD!!

SHAME ON YOU SARAH PALIN! YOU DON'T REPRESENT THE MOTHERS I KNOW!!!

SHAME ON YOU MCCAIN...FOR CHOOSING HER!

YOUR JUDGEMENT STINKS!!!
I saw this program and here's my beef.  Where have these Republican women been when it comes to Affirmative Action programs, to the equal pay for equal work bill.  Have any of them directly taken on John McCain to say he's wrong when he doesn't support Equal Employment measures? Secondly, Sen. McCain considered about as many Republican governors as he could as running mates: Larry Crist, Bobby Jindal, Tim Pawlenty, as well as former Governors Mitt Romney and Tom Ridge.  It is logical to ask, then, why Sarah Palin? What set her apart from the others? Many of them have more executive experience than she does; is she more a "reformer" than all the others? Is she idealogically more "pure" or more McCain like than the others?  Has she given more in terms of "service?"
Or is it because she is a woman?
OMFG!  How is it sexism to look into the major party's VP pick!  Oh, this must've been the Republican strategy all along...pick a woman, and play the gender card as soon there's any criticism against her, even though it might be fair criticism.
Dear God - wake me up when this is all over. Republicans are a bunch of clowns...Ive always hated the circus.  

This woman thrust her own daughter to be humiliated in the public spotlight. This whole sexism thing is absurd.
John McCain made this odious joke about Chelsea Clinton back in ‘98.

Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her father is Janet Reno.”

– Sen. John McCain, speaking to a Republican dinner, June 1998.

Is the Troopergate scandal due to her gender?  How about changing positions on the Bridge to Nowhere?  Directorship on a 527 for an indicted Senator?  Connections to Jack Abramoff?  Is criticism for backing of creationism, book banning, and abstinence-only sex ed or for denying global warming a gender issue?  How about claiming to be a fiscal conservative while raising taxes and raking in millions in earmarks?  This nominee carries more baggage than an airport Skycap...regardless of internal or external plumbing.
The real sexism is the assumption that Clinton's support was based soley upon her reproductive organs, and that her supporters would flock to McCain after picking a person who is the complete opposite of her politically. This was a major miscalculation on McCain's part. If Palin were a man, she would not have been on the long list, much less the short list.

It's not sexism to assume this is why she was picked since it is based upon what McCain and Palin said when she was introduced, specifically calling out HRC and the 18 million cracks in the glass ceiling.

The polls are already showing that this strategy of "any gal will do" is backfiring, as independents and Clinton backers are running from the GOP ticket, even more so as all of Palin's issues are being revealed.

Even without her daughter's private issue, she's turning out to be a typical politician. She was for the Bridge before she was against it, for earmarks before she was against them, for secession before she was against it, left her town with huge deficits from boondoggle projects, never had a passport before 2007, endorsed Obama's economic plan, thinks it's OK if polar bears go extinct, failed to pay business license fees on her business, fired a man who wouldn't fire her in-law and believed the Iraq war was God's will. These are issues that have nothing to do with her family and nothing to do with her gender, and these are the ones we learned about in the first 5 days.

McThuselah will regret his choice on election day.
Palin had a good speech writer because she is certainly not knowledgeable.  I agree that her daughter doesn't have anything to do with her as VP but as Patti LaBelle states in one of her songs"  If the shoe was on the other foot - what would you do".  You can rest assured that this would have been the worst thing in the world if Obama had a daughter who was in this same situation.  We have not come far at all regardless of what a lot of us think.  I wish her daughter well but there is still two standard in this world.  
what has obama done to be president?
Ok, Please the GOP is a joke. They have put us in a bad situation over and over again.

I am a mother of two young boys who have many actvivities, I to work I do not see how she can do it and expect nothing to lack. It's going to be either her, her marriage, or her childern. Maybe if her childern were grown it could work.

They picked a women so they can play the gender card. If they think women are going to move over because of that we are not. I look at her a selfish mother, putting herself first as she would do if she is VP of the USA.
This woman is a bigger fraud than John McFraud. I hope she read all her lines correctly in the speach. If you want a phony soccer mom for VP, you deserve her. It seems to be she neglected her first duty which was to take care of her family and see that they were raised properly.
I don't understand why the news media is not pointing this out:

Now the GOP is crying foul that we are sexists picking on a woman- I beg to differ.   Palin is getting no more than Obama got in the first 19 months of this campaign.  He was blasted for MONTHS about not wearing a flag pin , his preacher, his home state & background- we don’t know him, he’s inexperienced, he’s risky. Malicious rumors about being Muslim.  Michelle was criticized for saying for the first time she was PROUD of her country.   AND THE MEIDA JUMPED RIGHT ON THAT BANDWAGON. So I have to ask where’s the foul?? There is no difference here…we have just heard it much longer and louder against Obama and we are damn tired of the GOP hypocrisy.    Palin is a person who actually spoke at the Alaska independence organization in their SUPPORT!  No one as yet has questioned her patriotism for supporting secession from the union—how patriotic is that compared to a flag pin?  We don’t know her, she is inexperienced, she has a weird preacher, she's not qualified- AND we did not get to VOTE for her yet- AND IT HAS ONLY BEEN 5 DAYS.  Wonder how she’d hold up after 2 years of this rubbish.  Republicans – you certainly were able to dish it out- so stop whining.
Who is Sarah Palin and why should I care?
Why is it sexist to ask questions about the person wanting to be the vice-president of the United States?A man with the same meager background would be subjected to the same questions. I'm an older woman who spent a great deal of time as a professional, in the business world. I know that most women who don't like how they are treated would use sexism as the excuse for why they were call to account for their usually lacklustre performance on the job. These women never figured out that it wasn't about them being female.To see all these women crying sexism reminds me of high school girls in warring  cliques who do not like how they are treated when they cannot be reasonable and mature. The hormonal drama has played out long enough. As we have been reminded so many times, politics is a contact sport and if you can't take the hits, then leave the game. As for the McCain camp using this tactic to avoid answering questions, doesn't it remind us of how often McCain and his camp use POW to head off a criticism or avoid answering a question? So now they have added an additional card to their hand, we have to wonder what will it be next week? What will they bring out of their bag of tricks to dodge further scrutiny? The American public has a right to know about the people asking for our vote, asking us to trust them enough to run our country.    


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