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Biden: Not about issues?

Posted: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 4:18 PM by Domenico Montanaro
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From NBC/NJ's Mike Memoli
FORT MYERS, Fla. -- Back in attack-dog mode, Biden offered a number of counterarguments to Tuesday’s Republican National Convention speeches here today, as well as the McCain campaign chief’s statement that the campaign will not be about issues.

“Well, let me tell you, that means to them this election is not about you being able to scrape up the tuition money to send your kid off to college,” he said. “It's not about whether or not you're going to fill up your gas tank. … That to me is an issue. It's an issue to me and to Barack Obama.”

He also referred to President Bush calling McCain the “man we need,” saying that the Arizona senator certainly earned his endorsement by voting with him “90 percent of the time.”

“It look like we have another Minnesota Twins team up there,” he joked, noting that Fort Myers is the team’s spring training home.

Responding to Fred Thompson, who he called “Red October,” on taxes, he looked directly into the bank of cameras in the back of the room and challenged back that Democrats would not give tax breaks to him or oil companies, but “to these people right here in this room.”

He closed his speech by defending Obama on Iraq, saying he’s “been getting beat up so unfairly.”

“My friend -- and when I see him I’m going to ask him to go down to the gym with me, Joe Lieberman -- talked about surrender,” Biden said. “They use phrases like that, about surrender and putting country first.” He then noted that the Bush administration is about to enter into an agreement to remove U.S. forces on a timetable, something Obama had called for earlier and Republicans attacked.

“So, if Barack Obama is the agent of surrender, George Bush is the one signing the surrender papers,” he said.

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You go Joe.  What about Palin's requests for Wasilla, AK making it on McCain's "list" of wasteful pork projects.  How do you spell reform?
God I love Joe Biden!
Thanks for staying on message Joe.  You and Barack are going to win.  Just keep your eyes on the prize and we "ALL" will win...

               Say No Way to the

            BEAUTY & THE BEAST ticket

Love ya Joe! Even if you've never been an "executive" like Sarah Palin!
OK fine let's talk about sexism. I'm going to throw out a few quotes by the hero of the right-wing Rush Limbaugh.
"Sarah Palin is a babe"
"Sarah Palin can really wear a skirt"
"Sarah Palin has well defined ankles"
"Sarah Palin has nice curves"

Rush has said all of these things since last week and continues to assert that she will do well because men think she is hot.
You republicans have never led the charge for anything remotely resembling a woman's rights issue so why don't you all just shut up and let Sarah Palin be discovered, investigated and vetted like every other high profile politician has been since the beginning of the democratic process in America.
Do you understand that you set back the women's rights movement every time you cry sexism in the face of journalism doing what it has to do? Equal rights means equal work, equal scrutiny and equal responsibility for your actions. You can't promote equal rights and than cry foul when you are treated equally. I know you right-wingers do not understand what I am saying because you do not truly believe in equal rights. Your history and voting records back my assertion so please do not try to deny it. If Sarah Palin is truly qualified for this position then let the American people vet her for themselves. If she is truly a talented politician and a  bi-partisan reformer like the GOP tells us then she will be fine. The same thing happened recently with a man named Obama and look how well it worked out for him. Crying foul every 3 seconds only gives us the impression that you and her have something to hide.

It sure seems as though the McCain campaign is off message to the general public. They may have activated the based, but by actually stating a strategy of not focusing on issues, they will most certainly lose independents and provide the Obama campaign a victory. I also find it interesting that I have a hard time imagining Palin being able to make the same kind of hard hitting arguments on the stump with the same level of gravitas.
A timetable (or as the Repubs call it, "Time Horizon") was only a bad idea because it didn't fit in with their campagin schedule.  They were willing to spend a couple more years in Iraq (while their friends holding the no-bid rebuilding contracts make a little more $$$$), then decide on an exit strategy and claim it was THEIR idea.  Republican lies are finally coming home to roost.

Obama/Biden '08!
George W. Bush is a surrender monkey!
The more i hear Sen. Biden speak, the more i'm sure that he was the right man for the job.

Great job Team Obama on VETTING your VP pick!

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good one Biden. Excellent points. the pandering and lies of the gop ende here and now. republicans have never been about the issues which is why we are in the fix we are now in this country. wake up people and vote for obama/biden. the candidates who do put country first.
Good going Joe Biden for speaking up against the lies of the repugnant ones!  Thanks First Read for another great article on the "Honest" team of Obama/Biden.  Thanks for the great job today posting so many great articles and reader comments!  Keep the truth flowing and ignore "Scandal" McCain and his attempts to muzzle the free liberal press as they expose "Medusa" Palin for the fraud she is.

Funny that the crowd who preaches confession is good for the soul now doesn't want to practice it.  Come on evangelical christian lunatic fringe confession is good for the soul so please confess the sins of "Sinner" Sarah for they will set you free.  If not there's No Rapture for You!

Go Obama/Biden 08/12!
Biden is not about anything.

The Obama/Biden ticket is just like the Seinfeld series, it's a show about NOTHING. The difference:
Seinfeld was successful. Obama/Biden are running in circles trying to figure out how to handle Sarah Palin. They were one-upped by McCain and now they look like a couple of Elmer Fudds.
Thank goodness "the one" has someone to protect him now..afterall, he is so fragile.

I so wished that Joe would have chosen to stay off this ticket...he is better than the pitbull they are forcing him to become.
Biden has always been about the issues. Republicans (again led by Karl Rove working behind the scenes) are all about dividing this country along cultural and ideological differences. That seems to be the only way they can win, and they know it! We are all one America, and we need to start acting like it.

You go Joe -- ask her about the tough stuff!
Go Biden, 58 yr old lady with a strong support for Obama& You. I am soo sick of the rpublican whinners.
I have not seen any sexist plays by the dems or the media. We are just trying to do th vetting McCain was suppose to do.
Go OBAMA & BIDEN
Day one of the “real” Republican Convention got me thinking about a lot of stuff.

First of all I have to admit that they really know how to spin just about anything. I feel bad for the Republicans such as Rudy Guiliani and Fred Thompson (both former GOP Candidates) get in front of cameras and actually take pride in McCain’s VP Pick, Alaska Governor Sarah Palin. I find it ridiculous that these “true” Republicans can all tout how great of a choice she is when the truth is that she really was the worst choice McCain could have made.

We don’t have to touch the issue about her pregnant daughter (I agree with Obama that families are off limits.)

We don’t have to talk about her incredible lack of experience. We don’t have to talk about her getting a huge applause because as Thompson said, “She knows how to field dress a moose.” (And that qualifies her for what exactly?)

We don’t have to touch the fact that Sarah Palin said “that our leaders -- that our national leaders -- are sending [soldiers] out on a task that is from God.” We won’t speak about the incredible ignorance and hate statements like that create. We will ignore the resemblance to Jihad and the Crusades that she is closing in on. I don’t have to mention the fact that that kind of dialogue will not help our nation in a time where countries and people hate us for our occupier/invader manners of the past eight years.

I guess all these things are what really qualify her for the Vice Presidency. I guess it is all these things we won’t mention that in fact make her an “Everyman,” an “Average Joe” (an Average Josephine?) Personally, I say give me the man who for the past twenty years after getting work done in the senate (a little more complex than the PTA) still takes the Amtrak train home to his wife and family. That’s an average Joe. That is an average Joe that has the experience to be VP, one heartbeat away from the presidency.

I find it hard to believe the GOP can spin the fact that John McCain wants to “Put the country first” when his “great judgment” allows him to pick someone who he has known for less than a week.

Hurricane Gustav was a horrible event, and luckily it did not do much damage. New Orleans and the Gulf Coast were well prepared and ready. It is unfortunate for the GOP that the convention had to be postponed/overshadowed by the hurricane. I would have like to see them fall of their faces without an excuse to blame the media for unfair coverage.

Senator Lieberman spoke directly to the Independents and Democrats today (because he still has credibility with them?) He asked for them to vote for John McCain because he is better for the country.

Watching the RNC so far I have learned McCain is a war hero (which is great and honorable, but this qualifies him how?). I have learned that the Republican Party hires Christian Singers, because that is its base. I have seen Republicans lie through their teeth in support of a crazy VP pick. I have seen this political campaign spin a hurricane to shore up support.

John McCain is about country first? So far he sure isn’t making a very good case for that.

Talk about a 180 degree change from last week.

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Issues indeed!!! Won't you post my comments on how Palin attends a Pentecostal church. The preacher of her church said he believes about half of his congregation has the "gift" of speaking in tongues (think babel-ing Babel). Does Pale-in-comparison Palin have anything to say about speaking in tongues? With a 50% occurance rate according to the preacher does that mean her or her husband "speak in tongues?"
Get 'em, Joe!
YOU GO JOE!!

Love the Red October reference.  Fred Thompson was hilarious last night-- showed why he should go back to acting and why his candidacy flopped.  If he knew that Barack Obama was OK by a few generals (admirals in the Hunt for Red October), he'd probably be OK with him...
Go get 'em Joe. That's what I like to hear. Tell the people the facts and the truth. I'd like to see Biden take Joe Liar-man to the gym for a workout. he he he!!!
Keep it coming Joe.
Get" um "Joe

It's about time we have an attack dog. Take off the harness and get"um".

Do worry about being a sexist on Palin. The media and the right wing will paint you in a cornor no matter what. Get"um"
"attack-dog mode"??  First you rip into Gov. Palin's daughter and ransack her life (which is none of your #@!$! business).  Now you're back charaterizing whatever Sen. Biden says as "attack dog mode."  Are you even capable of covering the news?  

If you want to cover Gov. Palin, cover her flip-flops (for before she was against "the bridge to nowhere", a "reformer" who believes that free speech belongs only to those who agree with her -- my she fits in well with the Bush/Cheney/McCain mindset!).

And if you'd really like to actually cover the news (oh, I don't know, just for the heck of it, for old times' sake) how about reporting the arrest of Amy Goodman, and several others (she's only the best know) for trying to cover the news?  Oh, that's right, you only cover gossip.  Never mind.
Biden, the Reps are a bunch of drunkards, and it is why they insist that this election is not about issues -- they are way out of touch with the realities on the ground.
Excellent!
The GOP convention last night completely ignored the past 8 years, as if they didn't exist, it just never happened. Life is good, we're all happy, have great jobs, don't care about any deficit, wars or the price of gas. We have lots of money , lots of homes and love moose stew.
We already knew they were living in the 20th century.
64 hours and counting and Sarah Palin hasn't even talked to the press. If she's so 'qualified' what's the big deal, let's hear the 'qualifications.'
Joe, it is never about the issues with the republicans.  They don't put their country first. McCain is a celebrity and he chose a "rock star" to be his running mate, the fact that they are referring to her this way would be funny if the issues facing this country weren't so incredibly serious.  

America really needs to realize we don't want our next door neighbor running the country.  Did McCain go on E-Harmony to find his "soulmate?"  I suspect they would have done a better job of vetting her than McCain did on his own.    

Joe Biden hit the nail right on the head.  I watched Fred Thompson last night and he had a few zingers but NO ONE is talking about what positive plans John McCain has to get us out of Iraq, help the middle class, do something about public education (contrary to his opinion, if you gave vouchers to every kid in america they still couldn't all go to charter and private schools.....that leaves......THE PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM!!!!)  Not to mention HEALTHCARE!!!!!  

THE OBAMA-BIDEN TICKET IS THE ONLY WAY WE ARE GETTING BACK ON TRACK AS A NATION!!!!
Go say it Joe! Thank God you are there for us.

We need you and Barack in our corner. The Repugs only care about themselves.
Go Biden!  Kick em' where it hurts!  The issues that is... tee hee hee!

Play ball republicans!
Do you realize that Donald Trump wouldn't hire you as an APPRENTICE without severals weeks of hoops and scrutiny????

According to McCain Trump is an idiot the show should be a day and half tops and that's VP! A business??? Half hour tops!

Orrrrr McCain could head his own reality show where the candidates go through the hurdles to become the next APPRENTICE. The twist is by the time it gets to the final 3, he fires the lot of them for the online submission for season 2!!!
ISSUES PEOPLE...that is all that matters and the republicans do not believe in the issues of the middle class or the poor....they only car about winning at any cost....we need to all unite and say ENOUGH!!!  no more dems against repubs...no more men against women...no more racial division...no more religious division...it is time for us to vote 4 Obama and Biden....change is on the way....i feel a movement coming....
And as usual, the Democrats, Biden and Obama, have no solutions to lifes problems. Maybe if they'd just send out more rebate checks . . . . . . .  
So people paying $1000 or less will get 'tax cuts'(I won't hold my breath), but people paying $60,000 or more will get tax increases, (you can take that to the bank), and this is fair because . . .?

Senator Biden, class warfare has not and will never work in this country, despite what they teach on that little pink cloud of liberalism you and Obama occupy.

Like Reagan, I did not leave the Democrat party, it left me.
Obama Team: New Narratives on McCain and Women!

Obama needs to go hard and deep about McCain’s character. He needs a new add on how McCain degrades and disrespects women.

The GOP convention is the meeting of the heads of the top crime family’s in America!

Do you ever wonder what really happen to Cindy McCain’s arm? Has anyone ever talk to the guy that supposedly shook Cindy McCain’s arm to hard? Cindy McCain looks like she gets verbally abused, maybe even physically. However we can’t prove that though!

1. Calling his wife the "C" word!

2. Wanting his wife to go topless at the Buffalo Chip Contest!

3. How women should only speak if spoken to!

4. How women do not deserve the right to choose!

5. Laughing when someone in New Hampshire ask McCain how do we beet the B%#&h? The questioner was referring to how do we beat Hillary Clinton?

6. Cheated on his first wife while she was sick and dying!

If women in this country can’t see how McCain treats his wife there is something wrong with you. And you are going to vote for this man to lead this country.


It's tough to perceive a bigger blow-hard then Obama. But yet, here we have Biden.
Give 'em hell, Joe! I love this guy.  So nice to hear about issues rather than Nanook of the North.
This is on Governor Palin's public website and was placed there August 13, 2008.  You folks behind a bit?

Governor to Turn Over Findings
from Department of Law   Printer Friendly

No. 08-141

August 13, 2008, Anchorage, Alaska – Governor Sarah Palin today announced she will turn over findings of an inquiry by the Alaska Department of Law regarding the termination of former Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan. The findings were made available to Steve Branchflower, a retired state prosecutor, who was selected earlier this month by the Legislative Council to investigate the termination of the former commissioner and allegations it might have been related to Monegan’s refusal to fire State Trooper Mike Wooten, the Governor’s former brother-in-law.

Immediately following the Legislative Council’s move to hire Branchflower, Attorney General Talis Colberg ordered the preservation of all state documents that might be relevant to the investigation. The Department of Law has conducted informal interviews with staff from the Department of Public Safety and the Office of the Governor. Branchflower has requested that interview notes and tapes resulting from the meetings be delivered to his office.

Governor Palin this afternoon released a recording of a telephone conversation between Boards and Commissions Director Frank Bailey and an Alaska State Trooper from Ketchikan. The recording shows Bailey acted inappropriately by suggesting that he was speaking for the Governor and the First Gentleman.

“I am truly disappointed and disturbed to learn that a member of this administration contacted the Department of Public Safety regarding Trooper Wooten,” Governor Palin said. “At no time did I authorize any member of my staff to do so.”

“It is apparent that comments I made to a Department of Public Safety official regarding Trooper Wooten improperly and incorrectly implied that I was acting on behalf of the governor and/or her husband,” said Bailey. “That was wrong.”

“At no time did either the Governor or Todd Palin direct me, or imply that I should try to influence any employee to have Trooper Wooten fired,” Bailey added. “In fact, with the exception of the briefing with the Governor’s security detail immediately after the election, I have never discussed Wooten with the Governor.”

Governor Palin has directed all of her staff to cooperate fully with Branchflower.

A copy of the recording can be found at:

http://www.gov.state.ak.us/audio/FrankBaileyCDaudio.mp3

Ooooh, she sound weally weally bad!

As for the articl above:  Biden has signed the Democrat campaign regimen in blood.  Like Lieberman in 2000, you will now see a different Joe Biden on a short leash.

But at least he has experience.
Go get'em Joe!  If anybody surrendered, it's McQuit...he punked out and let the Rethuglicans put their choice in for VP instead of him putting his foot down to select the best candidate for the American people. And who do they choose?  Some light-weight with a one-page resume...give me a break!

Vote for America
Vote for Obama/Biden
Not about issues? I am not sure which direction if we elect a GOP into the office this year. A couple of days ago, McCain's strategist defended Sarah Palin's nomination by saying that this is not about experience, but JUDGMENT. Again, I have not heard what McCain will do to NOT repeat what George Bush had done to this country. The only thing that Bush should get credit for is his AIDS initiative. If McCain wants to continue Bush's policy, I just don't see how we, the middle class, gets a relief. After all, my wife and I are working pretty darn hard for our child here in Cleveland. Please address some of these issues, John McCain. Otherwise, I can almost guarantee you that middle class Ohioans do not want to see the eight-year history repeat itself!
September 03, 2008 12:38 PM

Officials of Gov. Sarah Palin's former church, Wasilla Assembly of God, in Alaska, shut down part of their website Wednesday, stating that their server could not handle the higher-than-normal traffic.

The part of the website no longer functioning appears to be the section where the sermons of senior Pastor Ed Kalnins were available, including one from 2004 -- after Palin left the church -- where he suggested heaven wasn't necessarily in the cards for anyone who voted for Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass.

Also no longer available is the video of a speech Palin delivered in June at the graduation service for the church's School of Ministry.

"WasillaAG.net was never intended to handle the traffic it has received in the last few days," says a message on the church website. "Due to technical limitations, WasillaAG.net will be unavailable for the immediate future."

Let's see how many times, in the days ahead, that Sarah Palin holds a news conference and directly faces the press.  My prediction is "zero".  She's being totally handled by McCain operatives.  The next best chance to see her sweat will be October 2 when she has to face Joe face-to-face in a debate.
This election needs to be focused on the issues...something the Republicans are trying desperately to avoid.  Perhaps, it really comes down to who is the better choice for VP-you know, the one who is a heartbeat away from the presidency!  This Hillary supporter would sleep A LOT better knowing Joe Biden was my VP!  Go get 'em, Joe!
I left the Republican party when they left me to take on issues that do not belong in government.  When they became ultra right and only worried about abortion and homosexuality, I left. I care about issues...wages, social security, health care (I cannot buy insurance) and living costs.  I for one proudly support the Obama-Biden ticket.
Obiden OWNS Palin!

I can't wait to see her get embarassed in the debates!

YES WE CAN!!!
We love you, Joe, and we need you to keep to the issues and to hit hard on all the Republican lies and spin.
the gop convention tonight was about nothing. i listened throughout the speeches but did not hear any mention on economy, home foreclosures, health insurance, jobs to name a few. it is obvious that republicans are made of wealthy people therefore the issues that middle class americans are being faced at this moment are not important to them. all I heard from the speeches are smearing politics, lies and more lies. God is going to be on the Democrats side in November because the republicans are nothing but a bunch of hipocrits.

OBAMA/BIDEN 08
I consider myself an independent, but I have never voted for a Republican presidential condidate.  This may change. I am disgusted by the rhetoric from the Democrats.  How can you say McCain picked a VP candidate with a "one page resume" when the Democratic Presidential Nominee has to go back to high school to fill that same page?  How can you lump everything "wrong" with the economy, the war, the country, etc., etc, when the Democrats have controlled Congress?  How can Democrats defend the media's attacks on Palin, when at the same time the media has not even begun to touch on the scandal associated with Biden's son's lobbying firm's interconnection with Joe and the firm's on-going fraud issues?  The party seems to have drifted away of its focus.  Consistency is lacking.  The DNC convention last week was full of talk about the Republicans' treatment of women, but now Democrats have reverted to the "Leave it to Beaver" standards of the past:  "Gee whiz Wally who is going to take care of us if Mom has a job?" What we have seen in the Democrats over the past week rises to the highest degree of hipocracy.          


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