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Little red meat in McCain's speech

Posted: Thursday, September 04, 2008 11:19 PM by Mark Murray

From NBC's Mark Murray
As Chuck Todd just mentioned on NBC News, McCain's speech was as non-ideological as you would expect from a Republican presidential candidate. According to the prepared remarks, we counted at least four broad contrasts with Obama -- fewer than we saw in the Illinois senator's speech.

TAXES AND THE ECONOMY: "I will keep taxes low and cut them where I can. My opponent will raise them. I will open new markets to our goods and services. My opponent will close them. I will cut government spending. He will increase it."

"My tax cuts will create jobs. His tax increases will eliminate them. My health care plan will make it easier for more Americans to find and keep good health care insurance. His plan will force small businesses to cut jobs, reduce wages, and force families into a government run health care system where a bureaucrat stands between you and your doctor."

EDUCATION: "Sen. Obama wants our schools to answer to unions and entrenched bureaucracies. I want schools to answer to parents and students. And when I'm president, they will."

ENERGY: "Sen. Obama thinks we can achieve energy independence without more drilling and without more nuclear power. But Americans know better than that. We must use all resources and develop all technologies necessary to rescue our economy from the damage caused by rising oil prices and to restore the health of our planet."

REACH ACROSS THE AISLE: "Again and again, I've worked with members of both parties to fix problems that need to be fixed. That's how I will govern as president. I will reach out my hand to anyone to help me get this country moving again. I have that record and the scars to prove it. Senator Obama does not."

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So where is the change? what is the plan? All this talk and i hear nothing but bs from john McCain. His loyal supporters look bored. he even tried to do what Obama did and show live broadcast from here in Ga and around the world from Times Square and other various places. Everyone looks bored as hell. All i hear is talk. Str8 talk or not all i hear are general statements that any idiot can make. I can get on tv and make promises. What do you consider decent wages. just by mentioning the words you want folks to hear what is the point? what the hell was the point of the republicans convention. all i heard was an attack puppet in a skirt last night dish out slander and hate and an old guy promise nothing what is the point can someone please tell me? All i hear are hyped up exerts of what Obama already said. you cant be a maverick if you revise what someone else said without really saying anything. McSame is lame. empty promises. I am so glad this is the last night of this crap. Its boring and there is no substance. How do you claim change when you are 72 and cant use a computer? the only way to stay ahead of the game is to stay ahead of the competition. How is a 72 year old man and an attack dog in a skirt and lipstick going to protect us from anyone except their lies scandals and own agendas. . Folks its time to stand up and state your claim in this years election. there will always be naysayers and folks who disagree with you. this is where it must end.

Obama/Biden 08/
Senator McCain: Thank you for addressing the issues. I enjoyed your speech, you appealed to independents. Besides the anointed comment, it was free of character assassination that has dominated this convention. You are an American hero.

Unfortunately I still remember the speeches from Yesterday. Your party wants is wrong on the issues. Your VP shoots wolfs from a helicopter for sport then leaves them to rot. What else can I say?
Yeah!  Sure!!

Get REAL!

NO WAY!  NO HOW!  NO McCAIN!

Obama/Biden 08 & 12
McCain just stole Obama's stump speech! I've heard Republicans are crooks, I just never expected something so bold-faced and shameless.

To sum up his speech: Change, change, POW, change, POW, POW, I've been a schmuck but will change for you now, POW, vote for me and I promise I'll change and change Washington too (though I've been there forever, sorry). Yeah, right. Sort of like the whole noun-verb-9/11 thing, now it's noun-verb-POW (yeah it's been said before but can't remember who said it last).

Still thin on actual policies,very generic, but I think the Dems have to learn to do their convention LAST so they don't get their platform stolen again!

"Make no doubt, my friends...." sound a little familiar to you. Once a Bush always a Bush!!
"I will keep taxes low and cut them where I can". Yeah, your big OIL FRIENDS!!!
his speech did nothing for me...i surfed on classmates.com the entire time he spoke and the only time i looked up is when the hecklers made some noise...same 'ole BS from mcSame...
Where are the specifics?  Why doesn't the media hold him accountable?  Is it b/c he cancels interviews if they say something he doesn't like?  Wish the MSM would grow a spine--their lack of spine allowed Iraq to happen.
But how many times did he say the word "fight"?  I personally am tired of the fighting--physical war and idiological warfare.  Isn't country first about working together to make it better, not fighting and fighting to keep our country bitter?
Come on guys be honest...this is the WORST speech anyone could possible give.  Oh by the way did you know he was a POW  LOL
Nice make-up job! He looked like he was trying out for a remake of the old vampire movie, Nosferatu.  Why not?  He's a bloodsucker too.
Maybe some meat, but little persuasion.  I doubt he made up for the 6-8 point bounce that occurred after the DEM convention and Palin pick.

Obama 297, McCain 241
http://voteforamerica.net/electoral.aspx
Nice make-up job! He looked like he was trying out for a remake of the old vampire movie, Nosferatu.  Why not?  He's a bloodsucker too.
all lies, we live in the 21th century not the cold war.Mccain is in the past, can't understand the internet. no mccain, no mcsain,no palin no way no how. Good job Hillary, you are the true lady.
The Bush speechwriter didn't even like the speech.  Tough break MCCain.
I wonder how much money McCain raised for Obama tonight?
Great speech by a true American hero!

McCain/Palin 08
Not the best delivered speech ever, though a bit lively at the end (he did a better job of telling us to 'stand up' than Biden said to 'get up' [though I'm  still a huge Biden fan].  Of course, this leads one to wonder if he's telling us to become community activists... a bit odd after Palin's trashing of this line of involvement last night.

Also, I really didn't care for the blue-screen behind him; though I'm sure it'll spawn a John McCain Blue Screen challenge on The Colbert Report.


I could never figure out how corportations could create more jobs if Obama raised their taxes. Seems to me that would make the corporations lay more people off. Has Obama ever had an answer to that question?
So very uninspiring!!!!  Makes me go to Barack Obamas websit to donate for the third time in two days!!!

Please do not saddle us with mediocre neo-cons once again.
So very uninspiring!!!!  Makes me go to Barack Obamas websit to donate for the third time in two days!!!

Please do not saddle us with mediocre neo-cons once again.
Yeah, but what exactly is he going to do about the economy? This is one Reagan Democrat who doesn't believe in the voodoo-economics fairytale anymore, Mr. McCain. What are you going to do for the lower/middle class? We're hanging by a thread.
His worldview is terrifying.

"I know good and Evil.  I know how to work with those who share our views, and stand up to those that don't."

our way or the highway huh?  use the blood of our best to form an empire, or destroy the country you "love" so much.  McCain's judgment is suspect, and his ideology is exactly the same as those who attacked us on 9/11.

rational thought > fundamentalist ideology

http://www.horneddevil.proboards98.com/
"I will keep taxes low and cut them where I can. My opponent will raise them. I will open new markets to our goods and services. My opponent will close them. I will cut government spending. He will increase it."
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And he is able to substantiate these claims with what, exactly?  These vague generalities are not the types of "answers" that the American people want from their leaders.

And since Senator McCain is one of the only people left that thinks an eventual withdrawal from Iraq is a bad idea, I ask:  How EXACTLY are you going to pay for these tax cuts, if you plan to continue sending billions of dollars to...what was it?

Oh yeah- a country that doesn't like us very much.
I recommend that after hearing the speech tonight and on a regular basis that voters use two non-partisan web sites to check out the claims and charges John McCain makes in his speech.  One is www.factcheck.org to get the fully researched articles on charges candidates on both sides are making in speeches and ads as well as internet rumors.  According to this site, McCain-Republicans have repeatedly lied about Obama’s position on taxes.  The second site is www.votesmart.org where you can check the voting records of candidates at all levels of government including all the President/Vice-President picks.  For me it was most interesting how many NVs(not voting or absent) McCain had this year as well as reversals on positions this year that contradict prior voting record stands that might have deviated from the Republican party line.  Here is where you can see McCain votes party line 90% of the time and how organizations rate his voting record.    Stop being swayed by political speeches and biased commentators and get the facts before you vote.  This is a critical election to determine the direction and tone this country has for next decade.  
McCain gave the most boring speech. Anyone who says McCain's speech is good must be on dope while watching RNC.
We see our property taxes going up every year, but yet our schools are no better, and in some cases worse. The teachers are happy though, they have guaranteed 5% raises for the next three years. And yes, they do have a very strong union.
I'm proud of myself for staying awake through that speech.  Yikes.  Get that man a Red Bull.

John McCain ..crashed and burned again tonight..along with every republican ever born..he took on the misery of past and claimed it to be his right of passage to the White House...sick...
His dementia is not our guilt trip...
Obama's energy plan: Take two sticks, rub them together.
Did you notice that you saw more black face's
in McCain's video, then you did in whole four
days of the convention! I heard that the republican
only had 36 African American delegates?  
McCain Speech was a waste of my time. Well, I guess it also made me angry. He lied about the effect of every one of Obama’s Policies. Then, he generalized every thing he promised to do. He was a Ghost of the old McCain.  

His voting record on the economic, women’s rights, Veteran Aid, in fact anything that will change this Country to make it better is terrible. How can he tell us he has fought the good fight and he can win if we vote for him? I noticed the tepid response from the delegates when he said hi Party has made serious mistakes and must change.

He and his party are stuck on a Reagan Repeat with a Dash of the Teddy Roosevelt Bully Pulpit. No discussion on improving relations with Allies, just militaristic hints on how he will react to any aggression anywhere. “I am not afraid of them, I am prepared for them”.  Then again an in depth story on his POW experience that he hates to talk about.

I am sorry but somewhere along the way, McCain decided t put personal ambition before the good of our Country. He is not the McCain that I admired in 2000.    
Little real solutions to our problems too.
*yawn*

Just face it Big Mac . . . you're not up to the job. And Sarah Palin isn't either.

And no amount of one liners is gonna change that.
I see a lot of change here- a changing of the guard

No substance, no difference in policies from Bush-Cheney

It was nice  to hear him admit and own up to the failures of the administration and the Republican party though
Noticeably absent were specific policies and details about how he would "keep taxes low" or "cut government spending".

Not a very inspiring speech. Ironically, McCain once defined a leader as one who can inspire others. In a Reader's Digest interview from this summer, McCain acknowledged Obama's greatest strength: his ability to inspire!

Obama/Biden '08!!!
The next political risk Obama takes will be his first. Barack doesn't take negative feedback very well.
POW CARD-  POW CARD--    POW CARD-----
POW CARD


-IF I HEARD THAT STORY AGAIN IN THE LAST THREE
DAYS I FEEL LIKE I WENT THRU IT   !!!!!!
McCain's running mate is for banning books, but is against polar bears and bullwinkle. She vetoed funding for special needs children and teen pregnancy. She'll support the disadvantaged by smiling and saying "I'm with you."  Enough of hollow Repub support as they send our dollars to offshore accounts. McSame - where was your vetting process?
I was a registered Republican from 1972 to 2002, and now I am an independent voter.  As a disabled U.S. Army Vietnam veteran who served two tours in South Vietnam (1969-1971) and awarded Three Bronze Stars, I am appalled that GOP presidential candidate Sen. John McCain admitted he "broke" under pressure after being severely interrogated by the North Vietnamese while a prisoner of war (POW) at the Hanoi Hilton.  What did he mean being "broke"?  Did he give up any information that he has not told the American people about?  Did he make mention ofthis after being released from captivity and debriefed? Under pressure, is he really a hero, or a coward?  According to what he himself said tonight he did not uphold the USMC Code of Military Conduct.  It is my opoinion that he is no better than the on-the-job trained inexperienced moron that we have had in the White House for the past seven or more years.  John McCain for president, what a joke! That is why I am voting for Obama/Biden!
Flat.  Deadpan.  Like this campaign.  Noonan is right... "it's over."
that was a dull speech.
And now Barack Obama slowly sets in the west as a real man with real ideas goes on to win the Presidency.
I am so disgusted with John McCain.  He calls hisself a maverick, a man for the people.  But at every chance he gets he wants to belittle the Democats. What he fails to realize is that we make up the majority of this country.  You know the "average" people the "oridinary folks"  And Pathetic Palin had the nerve to down talk Obama's community service, this is exactly what a great leader posseses, the ability to serve others first. Get a clue John McCain.  NO WAY NO HOW NO MCCAIN-PALIN
I was a registered Republican from 1972 to 2002, and now I am an independent voter.  As a disabled U.S. Army Vietnam veteran who served two tours in South Vietnam (1969-1971), I am appalled that GOP presidential candidate Sen. John McCain admitted he "broke" under pressure after being severely interrogated by the North Vietnamese while a prisoner of war (POW) at the Hanoi Hilton.  What did he mean being "broke"?  Did he give up any information that he has not told the American people about?  Under pressure, is he really a hero, or a coward?  According to what he himself said tonight he did not uphold the USMC Code of Military Conduct.  He is no better than the on-the-job trained inexperienced moron that we have had in the White House for the past seven or more years.  John McCain for president, what a joke!
What was McCain's comment about earmarks?  Hmmm.... who vetted Palin, because the Seattle Times reports, "Palin's earmark requests: more per person than any other state", all at a time when her state's revenue was soaring.  I believe she was an earmark goddess back in Wasilla as well.

OMG- Go get 'em Obama/Biden
     Palin teaches McCain how to read a speech:

I watched the video,posted here on MSNBC, of Sarah Palin reading the sports on local TV back in 1988.

I was surprised and impressed.  She did not come on like Mika or Kelly... she was professional, spoke clearly and held a strong stage presence.  No revealing blouse or dinky skirt, flashing thigh on a stool (arrgh!).  She was a professional, at least in that appearance.

The fact that her speech was jingoistic, demagogic, devoid of any intelligent thought, mean spirited, and completely dishonest... well that's a problem for the purists and the hoi polloi.  Right boys?

As I watched her I had a premonition, if you will, about Buffalo Bob Buchanan, Tom Broken Record, Joe Whatever, et al.  I could just see the empty heads chattering on about her surprising poise and obvious gifts of presentation.  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And so it has come to pass.  She gave a superb presentation of these well-honed skills last night.  

She was Anne Coulter without the bad breath.  David Duke without the racism.  Rush Limbaugh in lipstick.

And all the empty talking heads squealed in delight as they saw the ratings smash the through that glass ceiling.  More showtime!!! (Fair and balanced, of course)

Whadda a little lady!  The female, secessionist, creationist, undereducated NASCAR babe to match Obama's highfalutin rhetoric about whatever it is he talks about.

Grand slam!!!!

The portent of things to come Republican!!!!!

A star!!!!

A celebrity of their very own!!!!


What about tonight, bobble-heads?  Grand slam? Whif? Sniff?

"My fellow Americans...POW. Al Qaida.  Be very afraid without me.  Hero. Reform. POW. Fight."  Patriotic balloon drop...

The important and very deep questions tonight for all the pontifical poseurs:

Will Palin dump McCain?

Will any one of you say anything beyond the patently obvious?

Will David Gregory snark?



Rock on.

Wow, I can't wait for FactCheck.org to blast this garbage...in fact, I think there are several articles on MSNBC already proving that these claims are patently false...I'm sure his base will eat it up because they don't take the time to check on such things, but I'm guessing Independents and thoughtful Moderates will think differntly!
Yeah, thats one thing confusing about Obama. I sure like all the programs he's going to create and that he'll be increasing taxes on the rich. But how is he going to pay for all this stuff?


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