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Biden lashes out at 'Rovian' tactics

Posted: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:05 PM by Mark Murray
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From NBC/NJ's Mike Memoli
Biden said this morning that he is disappointed in the campaign being waged by his friend, John McCain, saying he's seeing the same "Karl Rovian tactics" used today that felled the Arizona senator in 2000.

"What really disappoints me is the very tactics used against [McCain in 2000], they’re trying to use against Barack Obama," Biden said at a fundraiser in Boston this morning. "It's literally saddening. I didn’t expect it. But I guess I should learn to expect everything."

Yet Biden expressed confidence that "swiftboating is not going to work this time," in part because he thinks the electorate is more focused about "big ticket items," but also because he said he'd personally fight back, or, "smack 'em right square in the chops."

"I tell you what, you know anything about me, I ain't rolling over," he said. "There's no possibility."

He promised that he and Obama will "take this thing to a new level," and as long as the Democratic ticket can "keep this close, we win." That's where the money pitch came in.

"All we want is to punch back. All we want is to respond," he said. "We know we cannot let scurrilous accusations go unanswered... That’s where we need you.”

Even as he expressed confidence the Democrats will regain momentum, he said the election will be no "slam dunk."

“I think we’re going to be up late Tuesday night counting the votes,” he said. "This is going to be a fight. But it’s a fight I think we are completely up to."

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Obama saw the polls this week, and he figured if he can't be President, he might as well try to be a comedian.

Joe, time for you to think about how to improve your work in the Senate for 2008.


Rove ain't rolling over either.

He'd work for free to keep himself and the gangstas out of jail, which is a real possibility if anyone other than a sock puppet wins the White House.

Keep in up Joe Biden.  This is going to be a rough ride. Any smear & fear lies need to address & stick with the facts!
The Obama campaign needs to dig up the quote from John McCain that he would run a respectable campaign.  The gloves are off...
Thats The Biden We Know!!!

Obama / Biden 2008!!!
This comes from the man who said on national tv. I would accept the nomination eve if I was asked..... fast forward 4 days and guess who has flip flopped on that> Biden accepts vp nod. Please he is as big a liar as Obama ! Palin will mop the floor with him !

She is WOMAN, hear her roar !

McCain Palin !
"Karl Rovian" . . . great line!

Now I know why Obama picked Biden . . . let's see what The Stepford Wife (Palin) has when she debates Biden without using the same script she's been using since being a VP pick.
Go Biden!!!  Smack them in the chops!  Hard!! and see how we jump up in joy and them split out checkbooks and wallets and swipe our credit card in donations to the campaign.  

Just try it!!

Just Test us!!!
Joe, you need to start getting nasty.  If Obama wants to play the high road, fine.  You don't need to.  Where are all the rest of the democrats?????  Let's go people.  Get ANGRY!  And that means Americans and women also!  McCain and Palin want to take away our rights, not help us!  Vote for things that will benefit you for a change and not who you would like to have a beer with!!!  
You tell 'em Joe.
Not this time.
Not this election.
ENOUGH!
PALIN IS A COWARD WHO IS SCARED TO TAKE ON THE MEDIA

Palin finally meets the press -- or at least one of them: As mentioned above, Palin will sit down with ABC later this week for her first big interview with the national media.  ABC will give Palin softball questions and make sure she looks good.

This women is such a coward she well not answer any tough questions from the media she hides behind McCains coat tails.   She is not tough enough to face the media she is a coward pure and simple.

She even shoots big game like mooses from a helecopter; how sporting is that.   Why doesn’t  she just drop Napalm on the big game, like McWar did during  the Vietnam war.

I am so disapointed that the MSM has not called her out and have her go toe to toe with the some credtable news anchors.   She is such a chicken,  coward and should not even be considered in this election.

I respect Hillary Clinton she will stand up for herself, she never shyed away from the Media. I respect all the other political women who answer tough questions everyday.  Even Mrs, Obama will stand up to the media this women is a coward 1st and foremost.
Go Biden!  

This is moose crap and the repukes stink to high hell of it, they are up to their necks in it!

We have got to fight and Obama needs to fight too about how the repukes have ran this country in the ground.  

Let's not talk about lipstick (whale blubber), let's punch their hole cards and reveal this horrible hand of thugs.  Call them what they are, a bunch of imcompetent dirt bags, they disguist me!

Although, all republican don’t share Bush’s views, they are just too spineless to do anything about it.  Republicans need to stand up to these Rovian tactics.      
Who's Joe Biden?
We now know that the truth is that Slick Sarah Palin supported the Bridge to Nowhere before she "opposed" it.

But did you know that the man responsible for foisting her on America blamed that bridge and Palin's hunger for federal pork for the collapse of the infamous August 2007 I-35 bridge collapse in Minnesota?


Well, now you do.

It's time someone called out the guy at the GOP convention who referred to Barack & Michelle Obama as "uppity".  We all know what word comes next.  If the Republicans are going to  get their panties in a wad over a perceived sexist comment, let's get absolutely incensed over a REAL racial slur ....

ooh ... sorry ... was using the word "panties" an attack on palin????  or mccain?????
Times are tough. My grocery bill is exploding. I can't afford to put more than $20 in my gas tank at a time, and I'm terrified of opening the heating bill this winter. BUT, I'll keep giving what I can to the Obama campaign because it is that important that they win this election. We can't take four more years of Republican policies that benefit only the wealthy and well connected. We can't take four more years of a foreign policy that makes us less safe. ENOUGH!
Wow Go Biden That's the way to go
"I tell you what, you know anything about me, I ain't rolling over," he said. "There's no possibility."

GOD BLESS YOU, JOE BIDEN! As soon as I get paid this week, I'm sending another $100 your way!
Hmm let' see Slo Joe brings up special needs kids in a slimey low road attack on Palin who has such a child. Then he derides Palin about the bridge to nowhere when in fact he voted for it twice. Then he chastise her about earmarks  and lobbyists when he is in the pocket of credit card companies and uh oh his son is a lobbyist for them.And he has the nerve to criticise McCain. Hey Barky you can put hair plugs on a porker and he,s still a porker.

God I love the smell of Obamatrons crappin their pants in the morning.
Where the heck are all the other democrats on these attacks.  McCain keeps punching below the belt and no one is helping Obama.  He shouldn't have to do the fighting.  

Dems need to get in the fight!  

This is getting embarrasing.  It makes us look like we can handle a confrontation...that we'll back down to the big scary bully repubs.  These guys are losers and we are letting them dominate the news.  
Get 'em Joe!  PS.  Did anyone notice that McCain/Palin were using the Heart song "Barracuda" at campaign events?  They got a cease and desist and have continued to use the song.  I hope Ann and Nancy Wilson kick their friggin' low life butts!

PS.  Just showed some co-workers the "Sex Education to Kindergartner" scum that got buried yesterday by the Lipstick Gate.  What a joke of a campaign McCain has run.  Can you just imagine the joke of a government he would have, as well?  Stunning, truly shark jumpingly stunning.
In this age of the 24-hour cable news cycle, Joe Biden & other prominent Dems & Indies should be continually blasting McCain for his Rovian tactics. We've got to get the facts out there for the low information voters to have someting of substance to chew on, and not just the pack of lies that make up McCain's TV and Internet ads.
Both McCain and Palin are a virtual roadmap of  LIES, DECEIT, ABUSE of POWER and TREACHERY. To run on a transparent “change” platform is the biggest farce in American History!!!! Simply put McCain and Palin represent big GOP business as usual except now, all strokes become endorsed by GOD. McCain’s team is filled with corporate lobbyists, Palin’s regurgitated speech was scripted by Bush‘s former speechwriter Matthew Scully and it is on the record that Karl Rove offers up his advice. That’s not change! The daily drip, drip, drip from Alaska is coming in louder and louder and coincidentally,  Palin still can’t take a 3am call from the media! Their response? Distortions and swift-boating set intentionally loose like red herrings while the needs of the American public remain addressed with silence. I don't profess to have a crystal ball about the elections, but in my book, McCain will always be loser. I see no honor in anything thing he says or does only vicious, ugly, insular opportunistic greed. Tell me, which kitchen does McCain sit at the table (sexist remark coming: while Cindy does the dishes) and think about YOU?

McBush: 4 more years of the SAME See the Real John McCain http://therealmccain.com/videos.php and see the real campaign at http://www.huffingtonpost.com/politics/ (The Huff posts it and in 24-48 hours MSM runs with it - it's great!)

Obama/Biden: Change We Can CERTAINLY Believe In
All this excitement in the McCain campaign is due to Sarah Palin...Let us not forget, however, that John McCain is the one who is running for President, and it will be his policies which will be enacted if he is elected.  So let's forget about her and remember what McCain stands for...4 more years of George Bush.
Go Obama/Biden!
Let's make this election a slam dunk. Let's help Obama-Biden completely stomp McCain. If you have any inclination that changes need to occur, go out and vote. If you've never voted before, felt alienated in past elections, felt like your voice wouldn't be heard, go out and vote. If you lost your house, lost your job, have no health insurance, lost friends or family in Iraq, go out and vote. If you think we need better energy solutions than "drill baby drill," go out and vote. This is your chance, don't screw it up.
McCain apparently hasn't seen the movie "O' Brother, Where Art Thou?"
Pappy O'Daniel could have told him "How we gonna run reform when we're the damn incumbent!"

Why is it barely mentioned that Torie Clarke, former MCCAIN advisor has a book entitled:

LIPSTICK ON A PIG????
Woot Woot!

go Get em Joe!

i've been talking about how McCain had this happen to him and is now willingly engaging in the same tactics.  it proves that his presidential ambition has conquered his honor.
How Biden can call McCain a friend is beyond me.  With friends like that who needs enemies.
Joe Biden you are the best!  hang in there we are working ofr you, contributing for you and VOTING for you!
I think very person voting this year has got to really ask themselves right before their vote, if we would feel safe having Sarah Palin one heart beat away from being president of this wounderful United States of America and all of the free world.  

This isn't about the head of the PTA or a pit-bull hokey mom or even mayor of a very small town, it is the most important decision we will make in the next four years.  

I am a 67 year old mother of five - four girls and one boy.  I  also had a full-time career will a well paying job when I was in my late thirties - I always believed women can have it all - but, not all at once.
It's pretty sad how "honorable" McCain, a man of "integrity" hired the same very people that accused him of fathering a black baby out of wedlock in the 2000 primary. What does that say about his character?
And TRUE Americans who believe in REAL change will stand up with you.

The hound dog and pit bull will not prevail-No Lipstick Politics here as strong women are not buying their hype.  The only people they are biting are those at MSNBC.  Report the news fairly.  Let's talk about education ad on air-Fear and Perversion Politics.

The Republicans just don't know about us!

Biden-Obama 08/12
I have a gut feeling that we won't be up late counting votes, On my street alone there is 2 Obama signs and 1 McCain sign so far.
I can't figure out what kind of country we're living in.  How can Sarah Palin campaign every day and then leave refusing to answer to any questions?  Do we now live in a country where our leaders are just picked for us? Can there be that many stupid people in the world that can become totaly enamored with a person they don't even know?  Isn't that person then a celebrity?  People take more time picking out shoes than they are going to take to elect someone to the highest office in the land?  where do I live?
Wow, what a great VP he would make.  Anybody hear anything from Palin yet?  O yea she's not allowed to speak, unless told other wise.  

What a Joke McSame and Palin are.

Independents for Obama,Biden.
McCain's campaign tactics have sunk to a new low. This stupid "lipstick" faux controversy is beyond the pale. Can we PLEASE focus on the fact that neither McCain nor Palin have addressed the issues that are so important in this election. Obama and Biden have tried, but they constantly have to go on the defense to rebuke inane non issues. The press is feeding into this stupidity, and I, one voter says ENOUGH!!


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