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Palin v. McCain on polar bears

Posted: Friday, September 12, 2008 7:15 PM by Domenico Montanaro
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From NBC's Domenico Montanaro and Carrie Dann
Earlier today, we noted that McCain and Palin differ on stem-cell research. But the Republican ticket also appears to differ greatly on ... polar bears.

As governor, Palin sued the federal government over the Interior Department's potential listing of the animal as an "endangered" species. (It actually wound up giving polar bears "threatened" status under the Endangered Species Act in May of this year.)

"We are suing the federal government recognizing that the endangered species act is not a place to kinda mess around with in terms of listing a species that right now is very, very healthy," Palin said on the Glenn Beck show earlier this year (About five minutes into this video). "In fact, the number of polar bear has risen dramatically in the last 30 years. Our fear being that the extreme environmentalists will use this tool -- the ESA -- to curtail or halt North Slope production of very rich resources that America needs. And we need that oil. We need that gas."

But that puts her at odds with McCain.
 
"The polar bear is now obviously listed as an endangerd species. I think it should have happened long ago," McCain said during an impromptu news conference in Columbus, Ohio, on May 14 of this year to note the new status of polar bears. "I strongly support it. It is clearly one of the thousands of consequences of climate change. I think that now the first step of listing the polar bear is important. But there's got to be a lot of work to be done and at the end of the day it will be seriously addressing the issue of climate change and reducing greenhouse gas emissions. Hopefully will stop and someday reverse the polar ice cap and the changes that are taking place. They were traditionally for thousands of years the habitat for the polar bear.

"I've been to the Arctic, and I've never seen a polar bear, I freely admit, but I certainly observed the affects of climate change whether it be in Svalbard, Norway or whether it be on the Arctic Circle or a native Alaskan village or whether it be. I'm glad that the polar bear's been -- the decision has been made by the administration. Secretary Kempthorne made the announcement, and I support it strongly. I'm  sorry it didn't happen a long time ago."

The state of Alaska even commissioned their own competing study this year.

Science Daily wrote on May 10 of this year: "Prof. Armstrong and colleagues originally undertook their audit at the request of the State of Alaska. The subsequent study, 'Polar Bear Population Forecasts: A Public Policy Forecasting Audit,' is by Prof. Armstrong, Kesten G. Green of Monash University in Australia, and Willie Soon of the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics. It is scheduled to appear in the September/October issue of the INFORMS journal. Interfaces.

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I wonder if Palin and her husband bash baby seals skulls in just for sport as well.

Of course Palin doesn't believe that the polar bears are in any danger, she does not believe in global warming and therefore everything is just hunky-dory up around the arctic circle.
speaking of bears, did anyone see the photo of her in her Anchorage office?  Big 'grizzly' bear head/throw sharing the couch with her.  Sarah, the wild life slayer, not my cup of tea; but whatever floats your iceberg.

PS.  This is the 3rd issue TODAY that Palin failed to share McCain's position on.  She really is a maverick.
If human life is so important that you prohibit abortion in all cases, at least show some respect to other forms of life.
Oh come on now, we all know that dinosaurs coexisted with Man 4000 years ago.  Damn those lying paleontologists and geologists with their carbon dating voodoo, trying to spread lies.
McCain says, "Drill here, drill now." Ike answers.

Aside from McCain's phony energy solution, perhaps it is time we were concerned about people. Perhaps we could start with those in Texas.
 More proof that John Mc Lazy just picked this woman to get back into his own party. And this big bump in the polls is a ruse by MSM because if you look at them closely you will notice that the pollsters have changed their sampling, which now has a larger percentage of republicans being called. There are still the same amount of registered republicans, so why the large bump? Maybe because they think that Americans will beleive that these higher numbers must be right so maybe I'm voting wrong.
When someone is to the RIGHT of Mcbush on an environmental issue, it's either the Grim Reaper or Sarah Palin.  Evidently, she's never seen footage of the bears floundering in the sea while thier ice melts around them.  If she's going to be Mcbush's #2, she'd better get with his program.
"All of these stories on Palin reek of a Friday evening dump.  The MSM will then say, "Hey we took a look at her and we just chose to be silent..." The corporate media will use every dirty trick possible to ensure the election of John McCain."

CK Steele (posted earlier)
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The political "news" from the MSM seems aimed at the idiot 25% who think GWB's dirty laundry don't stink.

Mr.Steele makes a damn good point with his comment about the Friday dump.

All this stuff comes out now, Ike blows in and Sarah's sins are washed away.

I don't really like (or want) to think the MSM are dumpsters or corporate lackeys, but look at the evidence.

Monday will tell the tale.

If it is all about pigs and lipstick or some such other drivel... well guess what?


DV, CA (Sent Friday, September 12, 2008 1:56 PM)

We normally agree, wholeheartedly - but, I don't share your vantage on the Oreo comment.  I am 42 years old (born in CA, but grew up in OH, TX, NE & OK).  I have NEVER once heard this metaphor that it wasn't racially motivated (specifically referring to [sorry folks; but I have examples] Colin Powell, Condoleeza Rice or Clarence Thomas).  I know it is wrong, but that is why I spoke up.  I have mulled it over at length and I simply DO not get any other interpretation.  Is it good in the middle and evil on the outside?  It simply doesn’t make sense in any other context.  Not trying to be argumentative, but your statement seems naive.
Gov Palin is no friend to wildlife, period.  Suing the government to get a species off the endangered species list to suit her own interests, supporting disgusting inhumane aerial hunting - going so far as to offer $150 bounties for the severed forearms of wolves, this woman has no regard whatsoever for wildlife.  Pro-life my a$$.  Oh, I'm sure it's "God's will" to be totally inhumane to Alaskan wildlife.  This woman is completely sickening to me.
Sho cares what they differ on. What is more imporatant is what they agree: oil tax breaks, tax breaks for the upper incomes, no health care for many, a belligerent foreign policy that could lead to war with Russia, neo con foreign policy, no tax relief for working class people, agreement to avoid issued and attack people.
Keith O's reputation has been on a downward spiral for a long time now. Every lie he speaks has barely 50% truth to it (The average Liberal has at least 80% truth to their lies). He hit his apex when he started backing up Rosie O’Donnell’s radical stories of 9/11 being orchestrated by the federal gov't. Both of their careers never recovered form that day on


Whenever Obama is asked a question it seems, he sounds like the hypercritical school teacher when asked if he believes the earth is round or flat, and answers "I can teach it either way"



The democrats are retreating on all fronts. And are starting guerrilla warfare in the form of slander and liable print. Throwing rocks won't give the Democratic Party any points, nor will un-credible lies focused on the republican candidates. Desperate measures call for desperate times does not work in American politics. It will not work in November either. If the democrats came out with some kind of solid platform that they could work with then they would have had some leverage in November, but the American people can see right through their transparent shroud, their bondo covered pinto, their polished wooden nickel and know that what they say is just more of the same defeatism that the democratic party ALWAYS preaches

Obots that take issue with Sarah Palin's daughter's pregnancy need to remember that Obama was born in August, when his mother was 18. At age 17, Stanley Ann too was pregnant.


Democrats can be so nieve sometimes. Do you really think the Hillary wants Obama to win the white house this Nov? Of course not. She's hoping he loses which will put her back in the democrat party front seat in 2012. Why do you think she was so late in responding to Obama's statement? She waited until it no longer ment anything with the idea that damage has already been done. Remember her last name is Clinton, which means she is a professional back stabber. Just ask Al Gore what he thinks of Bill Clinton's abandonment back in 2000.


By the way who was president when

The WTC was bombed in 1993
The US Khobar towers was bombed in Saudi Arabia
The federal building in Oklahoma City was bombed
The US embassy in Kenya was bombed
The US embassy in Tanzania was bombed
The USS Cole was bombed

I’m not sure but whatever party was in charge during these attacks, but if it was one president then he should have definitely been removed from office for refusal to take action. One instance would have been enough, but 6.  That’s either total incompetence or corruption at the highest level. Please tell me it wasn’t just one president that resided in office during these attacks.
So, what is it?  

Is Palin a CLONE?  Or do they have legitimate differences on some issues?  

Why aren't you stressing how Biden and BO differ on abortion?  Biden doesn't think you should throw children who survive an abortion into a closet to die...  NARAL doesn't think you should do it...  But BO sure does!  

Vote for BO! Let's reduce the restrictions for abortion!  You don't know how much of a punishment those kids will be until they're at least into the terrible twos...  or worse - gasp! - teenagers!  

Women should not be punished for making the horrible mistake of not aborting their children!  GO BO GO!  
I was just wondering.  If she was to become the VP, would she get paid the same as Cheney or would she take a pay cut due to her gender?
Again, why did he pick Palin?  Ooooh.  That's right...'historical' crowd draw and mis direction...
With this article and the one about their differing view on stem cells, I will now associate that old adage "The left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing," with this Republican ticket.
Lest we not forget that she also approves of aerial wolf hunting and a $150 bounty for a wolf's leg.
How about aerial wolf hunting and her $150 bounty on legs. This ad takes aim at Palins ACTIVE support of savage aerial wolf hunting.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/12/brutal-ad-targets-palins_n_125975.html

That disagreement happens to be because....

Wildlife Association gave Sarah Palin her control over the Wildlife Association.

Her lawsuit AGAINST FURTHER PROTECTION OF POLAR BEARS was  for not to hinder oil drilling in Alaska's ice-filled waters.
Are they her ardent supporters (the oil companies’ lobbyist?) Yes.

Also she paying Alaskans $150 to shoot wolves (Gods Creatures) and bring the paw of the wolf for the pork money; True Fraudulent Reformers McCain  and Palin are-- Palin  is just as steeped in corruption with big oil as McNut. Her husband is an oil lobbyist.

Campaign Money Watch will be asking the U.S. Justice Department to thoroughly investigate John McCain's pattern of potentially illegal donations from Hess Oil.
http://www.adn.com/sarah-palin/story/515512.html

With Mccain/Palin, The Worst Is Yet To Come. Vote McCain and you get what got; literally.

Enough
Enough glossing over!
No way!
No how!
No McCain/Palin!
Nobody but Obama/Biden

 
I am suffering from total Palin fatigue.

I have learned everything that I need to know about her and will boycott MSNBC and any other news outlet that continues to focus on her.  This evening Chris Matthews even twice asked guests "are you voting for her or the other guy." He apparently has elevated her to a POTUS candidate.

McCain and Palin have turned this very serious election into a sad, sad farce.  It must be hilarious watching it from another country, but it is just terribly sad to be living it here with all the implications for the future.
Those two need to meet for lunch once in a while to find out what they really believe. All too funny.  The Palin craze will blow over when people realize she is a well rehearsed Little Miss Sunshine.
Nice vetting.

Great ticket, one vote covers both sides.

Brilliant
Stop the presses!  Is this The View or something.  Oh wait, it is...
I'm against polar bears. Smelly beasts they are.
Ole boy, thats some fine vetting the McCain campaign did. And great insight on how McCain will appoint members of his own administration. Heck, he should just have people draw straws for cabinet positions.
Palin's a real right wing nut job who should keep her mouth shut when she doesn't know what she's talking about. Anyone with a brain knows that the arctic ice is melting and that polar bears are therefore threatened. Palin's statement shows that she is willing to suspend reality in order to promote her development objective. In other words, she's a liar, willing to break God's 9th commandment. We've had 8 years of suspended reality and hypocricy. We can't aford 4 or 8 more years of it.
Where do Barack Obama and Joe Biden stand on the polar bear issue? Being he's from Chicago, how much experience does Obama have with polar bears? Has Biden ever taken lobbying money from the polar bears? When will someone ask Obama 'Do you agree with the Bush Doctrine on polar bears?'.
The Ticket

McCain /Palin ticket
Dumb  / Dumber ticket
Bush/Bushy'er ticket
Offend/Pretend ticket
Big Nuts /Some Balls ticket
Monger/Banger ticket
The Ribbed/the Rubher ticket
My Friends /His Friends ticket
Angry/Delusional ticket
Fears God/God Fears ticket
The Bridge to/from Nowhere ticket
Small Head/Thick Skull ticket
Pilot Jock/Jock Mouth ticket
Coldie/Hottie ticket...
Icky/Bitchy ticket
That's enough for now..
Climate change - Al Gore - Nobel Prize

Gov Palin - drill baby drill

Enough said.
To get ahead of McCain on the issue, Obama has promised he'll appoint a polar bear to a cabinet position. But are polar bears an affected class? They are white you know. Obama mentioned that he'd make the bear SecOfState.
http://twocanpete.blogspot.com/
Palin needs to flip when McCain flops if they're ever going to tell the same lie at the same time.
How about that WIldlife defense ad going Chuck?

http://www.youtube.com/v/EQobIUE1zTU
She probably wants to get in her plane and shoot them down too. She does so enjoy killing,gutting,skinning and cutting the legs off of animals. It would be terrible for her in DC. (Of course they do have dogs and cats there.)
Nice going Obama. Abtout your latest ad mocking Mccain for not using the Internet, because of his war injuries, the ones he got while defending his country for punks like you, prevent him from typing. Oh, and you're welcome.
They are both lying...Palin and Mccain are lying their way across America...how can you republicans continue to support these lying pieces of doo? One of these days I pray many republicans end up dying for giving us the bsuhes and mccains of the world...
I is very clear that Palin is no conservationist or environmentalist.  However, that should have been deduced when she came out with the fact that she shot wolves from a helicopter.  This "lady" is just no lady in any form of the word.  And fellow democrats, she is not a Hillary Clinton by any stretch of the imagination.  If you are for the facts and not the gender, vote for Obama, otherwise, it was all about gender.  As a strong Hillary supporter, I can say that my vote will go to Obama.  We need his leadership despite his gender!
I thought the grey wolf was an endangered species?                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                


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