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It's the economy: Wall Street's a mess

Posted: Monday, September 15, 2008 9:22 AM by Mark Murray
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The big news of the day: “In one of the most dramatic days in Wall Street’s history, Merrill Lynch agreed to sell itself on Sunday to Bank of America for roughly $50 billion to avert a deepening financial crisis, while another prominent securities firm, Lehman Brothers, filed for bankruptcy protection and hurtled toward liquidation after it failed to find a buyer,” the New York Times reports. “The humbling moves, which reshape the landscape of American finance, mark the latest chapter in a tumultuous year in which once-proud financial institutions have been brought to their knees as a result of hundreds of billions of dollars in losses because of bad mortgage finance and real estate investments.”

Ex-Clinton senior adviser Howard Wolfson writes on his TNR blog that it's 3am on Wall Street and wonders which candidate will answer the call.

Obama released this statement at 6:18 am ET: “The challenges facing our financial system today are more evidence that too many folks in Washington and on Wall Street weren’t minding the store. Eight years of policies that have shredded consumer protections, loosened oversight and regulation, and encouraged outsized bonuses to CEOs while ignoring middle-class Americans have brought us to the most serious financial crisis since the Great Depression.”

“I certainly don’t fault Senator McCain for these problems, but I do fault the economic philosophy he subscribes to. It’s a philosophy we’ve had for the last eight years – one that says we should give more and more to those with the most and hope that prosperity trickles down to everyone else. It’s a philosophy that says even common-sense regulations are unnecessary and unwise, and one that says we should just stick our heads in the sand and ignore economic problems until they spiral into crises. Well now, instead of prosperity trickling down, the pain has trickled up – from the struggles of hardworking Americans on Main Street to the largest firms of Wall Street.”

“This country can’t afford another four years of this failed philosophy. For years, I have consistently called for modernizing the rules of the road to suit a 21st century market – rules that would protect American investors and consumers. And I’ve called for policies that grow our economy and our middle-class together. That is the change I am calling for in this campaign, and that is the change I will bring as President.”

McCain released this statement at 8:02 am ET: "The crisis in our financial markets has taken an enormous toll on our economy and the American people -- first the decline of our housing markets followed by the collapse of Bear Stearns, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and now Lehman Brothers. I am glad to see that the Federal Reserve and the Treasury Department have said no to using taxpayer money to bailout Lehman Brothers, a position I have spoken about throughout this campaign. We are carefully monitoring the financial markets, including the duress at Lehman Brothers that is the latest reminder of ineffective regulation and management. Efforts must also be focused on ensuring that the deposits of hardworking Americans are protected.”

"It is essential for us to make sure that the U.S. remains the pre-eminent financial market of the world. This will be a highest priority of my Administration. In order to do this, major reform must be made in Washington and on Wall Street. We cannot tolerate a system that handicaps our markets and our banks and places at risk the savings of hard-working Americans and investors. The McCain-Palin Administration will replace the outdated and ineffective patchwork quilt of regulatory oversight in Washington and bring transparency and accountability to Wall Street. We will rebuild confidence in our markets and restore our leadership in the financial world."

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Mitt Romney : McCain WRONG, REPREHENSIBLE..video watch!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UY5Plqs5d98

JOHN MCCAIN LIES BECAUSE HE DOES NOT KNOW HOW TO SOLVE REAL PROBLEMS, BECAUSE HE HAS NO FAITH IN THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, BECAUSE HE WANTS TO FORCE THIS COUNTRY BACKWARDS INSTEAD OF LEAD US TOGETHER INTO THE FUTURE.
Some month's ago, Barack Obama was crucified for being to naive on Foreign Policy, when he stated that if America had actionable intelligence on Bin Laden or other's, that if Pakistan would'nt or could'nt act on that intelligence, America would. Since saying that, our Military has done exactly what Barack said he'd do.
The October surprise may be coming from GWB & Pakistan. Over the last several month's(especially the last couple week's)our Military has stepped up attack's on Pakistani soil. Also on the Pakistani side, thier military has stepped up attack's on taliban & al-quida in the tribal region.American's who Want the Real perpetrator's of 911 brought to justice(or killed, does'nt matter either way)welcome this action.
I'm no foreign policy expert, but all this happening less than 2 month's away from Presidential election has a certain odor to it that Non-beleiver's in GWB, have smelled before.Since becoming President, Bush has brought the October surprise to a Scared American Public for votes.
Waiting 7 year's to finally go after Bin laden, should'nt bring Him & the GOP any credit Now.
Along with Time Horizon's in Iraq & the new push in Pakistan, Bush's foreign policy has been a copy of Barack's for several month's.

AMERICA, don't forget that Bush has brought us #1 A Personal War(and Oil) against Saddam,#2 Outing a CIA agent(Treason),#3 a trampling of the Constitution,#4Scooter Libby,#4 Katrina & the drowning of a Major American city, while he Celebrated John McCain's Birthday(heck of a job Brownie),#5 The firing of attorney's for Karl Rove's personal reason's,#6 Jack Abramoff,#7Trying to privatize Social security,#8 Enron,Fannie Mae, Freddie mac, countless bank's Failing,Bear Sterns,& now Lehman Brother's Failing,#9 Home Foreclosures at an all time High,#10 Gas prices TRIPLING since taking office.

This kinda record must Not be Rewarded ! The GOP has brought Death & Destruction to America in a few short year's. Let's hope that American's hold them accountable for their 110% support of Big Oil & Corparate America.

This election is about the Future of America & the GOP has shown us countless times, Their Not Up To The JOB! Their total disregard for the Common Man & Woman is Vivedly clear" I got mine, you get Your's".

We can't stand 4 more year's of the last 8 year's !

Barack Obama / Joe Biden 2008

What?  No government bail-out?  No free money for fat-cats?  Is Bush asleep at the wheel?

http://thepajamapundit.com/
Stop whining!
We can all blame "Big Bank" McCain for this Wall Street meltdown as he constantly fought against better government regulation and backed deregulation that has caused this massive mess.  He calls for acountability and transparency now that he's a presidential candidate and will do nothing to bring this about if he's elected, it's just another lying campaign slogan.

Only Obama/Biden will bring proper banking regulation to Wall Street and ensure that the few rich and greedy types don't screw the pooch for the rest of us!

Go Obama/Biden 08/12!
Lehman announced its bankruptcy last night. I'm braced for the coming hit on the market. Yikes.
Today starts to answer the question...

"Why does it matter that McCain's sr. leadership team is all lobbyists..."

and the most powerful lobbyists in Washington we may add...

6 words to start

Phill gramm wrote Mccain's economic platform.

... here are some small facts just about 1 of the 7...they all have these same Bush Cheney bologne histories...like the lies that are ebing told...even his team is whooowee slimey

I took some from wikipedia but they are facts...

John McCain’s presidential campaign co-chair Phil Gramm and his most senior economic adviser (his most often thought Treasury Leader) that had to be "officially unofficially" fired for calling the country...a country of whiners.

(and as much as they want to spin it...that is the truth...)

this is the guy who literally wrote Mccain/Palin's economic platform...who McCain hads for decades called a genius economically...

the guy who spearheaded efforts to pass banking reform laws, including the landmark Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act in 1999, which served to reduce government regulations in existence since the Great Depression separating banking, insurance and brokerage activities.

Years later, this same legislation may have been pivotal in encouraging the corporate practices that led to the 2008 mortgage crises in America.

Between 1995 and 2000 Gramm, who was the chairman of the U.S. Senate Committee on Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs, received $1,000,914 in campaign contributions from the Securities & Investment industry.

Later, as lobbyist for Swiss bank UBS, Gramm pressured congress ease it's restrictions on predatory lending tactics by mortgage brokers. For his efforts, Gramm received $750,000 from UBS in during a one year period starting in 2007.

Save our country throw these bums out.


And let it be a mess. People of the likes of Schumer and Franks need to dummy up (not much of a stretch, I know) and let the market self correct. We're not even in a recession, there is moderate growth in the economy. Let some banks fail. Like Greenspan says, there's winners and losers in the market. Some of these banks will be losers.
http://twocanpete.blogspot.com/
What did they think would happen? McCain told you that the jobs weren't coming back. Just go to your money tree the way he does. By the way, the Governor From Nowhere has a second Bridge to Nowhere in the works. It 'shortens her commute. You have to read it to believe it!
The last thing we need is the government bailing out these banks. No way the taxpayer needs to foot the bill for the banks mistakes. Others banks that didn't over reach will pick of the business of the failed banks, and well be just fine.
Even wealthy Republicians can see that following Bush/McCain economic policies are bad for the country.  I guess my question is how much worse does it have to get before All Americans see it is time for a change.  

WOuld the MEDIA ask John McCain his solution to this problem.  He reports economics is not his strong suit, maybe he will defer to Phil Gramm.
This is all started when the government said that everyone should be a homeowner. Well, guess what? Not everyone could afford to be a homeowner. The banks stopped doing credit checks, stopped red lining people that obviously couldn't afford the credit for their loans, and now we have this. Banks need to be less regulated and allowed to either survive or fail on their own. They have become too dependent on the government to save their behinds.
Seeing McCain in Fl this morning on MSNBC does not reassure me that he understands the gravity of the financial market collapse!! It's all RETORIC...NO SUBSTANCE. Where's the leadership and knowledge and plan. Republicans are all HOOPLA and no action.
How can we as Americans possibly even consider putting people in the White House with the same economic philosphy and plans for more deregulation nightmares as George Bush?  Are we REALLY that foolish?  I don't care if the Democratic candidate is purple with pink spots-there is no way I'l like color convince me to vote for the same group of folks that brought us the nightmare of the last 8 years.  And they are repeating the FEMA/Katrina debacle with Hurrincane Ike!  Its about incompetent governance folks and the Republican have proven they have the marked corned on that.  Too bad they can do little else for any other market.  Seriously, how can ANYONE justify voting for McSame/Failin when so much is at stake?  I just don't understand that kind of bigotry.
Stop whining about the economy...everything is fine
Unregulated Capitalism is much more dangerous to the well being of this country than any terrorist organization, the concept of the "free market" is a farce perpetuated by the Republican elite who control it.
McCain/Palin will bring transparency to government?

McCain might, but Palin is as opaque in her governing style as Cheney is.  This screams of another promise that will be broken the minute they are sworn in.  i have no reason to believe anything that the McCain campaign says, because they have proven that they will say anything to be elected.

http://horneddevil.proboards98.com/index.cgi?board=iduspolitics
The key is your statement that although Mccain has shown some movement upward he has still not over-taken Obama in the electoral college vote. The Palin movement will wane. Obama will take Michigan, Ohio New Mexico and New Hampshire putting him over the top.
It's hard to be part of the solution when you're part of the problem, ain't it McSame?
A generation of GOP-led Monetarist economics policy has led us to the same, sorry place it did in 1929.  Granted that most if not all regulatory structures could use some improvement, everything from the FDIC to government regulation of airlines, trucking, and utility rates was there because it was proven necessary.  Laissez-Faire economics isn't some brilliant new idea to carry us into the 21st Century, it's a tired idea discredited decades ago.
Does anyone really believe that if we just close our eyes, ban abortion and keep gay people from getting married, that is going to save the U.S. economy?

Does anyone really believe that if we keep cutting taxes  and pumping money into wars all over the globe, our economy is going to magically turn around while we declare "victory" after a 6 year slog with nothing to show for it but a dead Saddam Hussein and some rich contractors?

WAKE UP AMERICA!

This is REALLY HAPPENING!

The REPUBLICAN PARTY has mortgaged your future, and now the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA is being FORECLOSED!

The collapse you fear if the Democrats win the White House - it's happening RIGHT NOW under REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP!

DO YOUR HOMEWORK!

DON'T BELIEVE THE LIES!

Please help save what is left of our country!
Massive economic failure that will be felt the world over.

But, if elected President, John McCain would continue to support the same failed economic policies (and people) that have put our nation in the precarious situation we find ourselves this AM.

Sarah Palin is too busy studying up on the foreign policy mistakes she made with Charlie to put forth any intelligent thought on our current economic crisis.  She'll probably get to those chapters next month.

We simply cannot afford John McCain as President.
This is not simple but let's get to a basic FACT. Wall Street and the Financial Market generally align with Republicans and the free market theory. Free market theory WAS a sound "theory" that has been trumped by unabashed greed, laziness on the part of investment institutions that have all been sitting back waiting for the government to find a solution for their problems and bail them out. Greed in the housing market has fueled the sub prime catastophe. Corporate welfare first, reinvestment and jobs last. ALL, of us as taxpayers are going to pay..each and everyone of us..so let's just sit back and reward them...elect another Republican. Please elect John McCain, the maverick and economy expert as your next President.
Thank you, Bush/Cheney/Rove for bringing this great nation to her knees.  You have single handedly driven the bus off the cliff.  And a big thank you to all the people that voted for Bush -- the very same people that are now backing McCain/Palin.  You Republicans and Republican supporters could careless about America.  You are not patriots.  No way, no how, no McCain, no Palin.  Calling all Democrats,we MUST stop these people from destroying our great nation come November.  I love America too much to sit back and watch McCain/Palin/Bush/Cheney and the Republican supporters run America into the toilet.
If people think that Bush has done a mess, just wait until they let mccain have a shot at it.  We WILL move from a recession to a major depression.  mccain's answer will be cut out all social programs and continue with the war.  
These people who call themselves evangelical christians and then vote for a liar will get exactly what they deserve.  It will not be peace and prosperity.  Bush has been in office 8 years and abortion is just as legal today as when he took office.  So what if he "doesn't believe in abortion"  It remains legal.  How can evangelicals vote for a liar and call themselves 'christian'?   Look at Bush!  
Thanks - Evangelicals for this economic disaster.  There is nothing about G-d in this equation.  Stop using his name in vain!  No wonder we are in this mess.
If people think that Bush has done a mess, just wait until they let mccain have a shot at it.  We WILL move from a recession to a major depression.  mccain's answer will be cut out all social programs and continue with the war.  
These people who call themselves evangelical christians and then vote for a liar will get exactly what they deserve.  It will not be peace and prosperity.  Bush has been in office 8 years and abortion is just as legal today as when he took office.  So what if he "doesn't believe in abortion"  It remains legal.  How can evangelicals vote for a liar and call themselves 'christian'?   Look at Bush!  
Thanks - Evangelicals for this economic disaster.  There is nothing about G-d in this equation.  Stop using his name in vain!  No wonder we are in this mess.
Bring to mind the S&L crisis but worse.  Brings to mind John McCain as one of the Keating 5 who waved regulators away while Keating looted his S&L.  John McCain is one of the biggest anti-regulatory guys in the Senate.  But, yeah, let's believe that he is the one to patch up the regulatory framework.

By the by, I have a feeling that this crisis was forced on us not only by speculators but by certain foreign powers who did not have to fire a shot to bring us to our knees.  We have been warned so many times that there will be consequences...
If people think that Bush has done a mess, just wait until they let mccain have a shot at it.  We WILL move from a recession to a major depression.  mccain's answer will be cut out all social programs and continue with the war.  
These people who call themselves evangelical christians and then vote for a liar will get exactly what they deserve.  It will not be peace and prosperity.  Bush has been in office 8 years and abortion is just as legal today as when he took office.  So what if he "doesn't believe in abortion"  It remains legal.  How can evangelicals vote for a liar and call themselves 'christian'?   Look at Bush!  
Thanks - Evangelicals for this economic disaster.  There is nothing about G-d in this equation.  Stop using his name in vain!  No wonder we are in this mess.
And how will McCain do that ?  By further cutting regulation and further enabling excess ?  

Yet again, McCain is on the wrong side of the argument.
America - WAKE UP!!!

600,000 jobs lost since Jan 1st. Thousands of jobs lost to companies moving overseas. The results you are seeing in the Financial Markets are due to the massive foreclosure of Homes. How can we pay mortgages, buy cars etc etc if their aren't any good paying jobs.

Who has the best plan to create new jobs - McCain or Obama?

McCain expects to create new jobs by giving additional tax cuts to those who make over $250,000 per year. This policy did not work with the Bush tax cuts and will not work with McCain tax cuts.

Obama has a plan to create new jobs though his Energy Program and his re-building of the Interstructure.

Obama / Biden 08
This country is in a mess that comes around only once every century....according to former Fed Chair Greenspan. So given that why in the world would anyone vote the rookie into office to fix it? There is no way as a strong democrat that I will be voting to put Obama into the White House. I have never been more worried about what is happening to this country as I am today and to ask someone with no experience to tackle and solve these problems is just insanity.
Bush Economics = the mess we are in

Alan Greenspan - Our economy cannot afford McCain's Ecomomic plans to reduce taxes for corporations and wealthy.

McCain Economics = Bush Economics
Anyone who votes McCain based on the economy and their approaches and plans ies either super rich or dim.

And who are those over 60 who go for McCain 52 to 39% when Obama will eliminate taxes for them if they make less than $50K and has a feasible plan to fix soc, and McCain will not give them any more tax relief than now or propose a serious effort to fix social security.

Our education system being so weak explains why we keep getting weak leaders that we select based on identity or perception of how much like us they are or how desirable to drink beer with them - no matter than they came out 894 out of 899 in their naval college. These folks will be ok. Our pain continues.
A question for Senator McCain, or more appropriately, to Phil Gramm, Senator McCain's economic advisor...

How much of your deregulation allowed Merrill Lynch and Lehman Brothers to screw themselves?  How much might keeping regulations in place have saved them from themselves?

..or does asking that question make me a whiner?
Let's hope that both campaigns make a substantive policy statement about this soon, so that we can compare stances on real issues for once!
The allowance of no regulation at all that initially lined the pockets of these major financial institutions need to be held in more strict accountabilty.  The CEO of Leahman earned a 22 million dollar bonus last year just before the markets began to tumble.

Its the people that work and will lose their jobs due to fiscal mismanagement and greed.

I agree with Sen Obamas comment that the policies and philosophy of the past eight years must change to protect all including the middle class.  I know I have worked hard to invest carefully and to see this mess in the financial institutions and my losses in my IRA and 401k makes me feel like my grandmother a woman raising a family dring the throes of the Great depression,it shows the fact that many people are really starting to mistrust the entire finacial system.

More needs to be done and put into place for those of us trying to save for our later years (haha) and care for our families now.

suzanne, western Ny thinking voter
Watching CNBC.."Wow this great for the consumer. Oil down, food down.....blah, blah, blah."  When will that "trickle theory" those Republicans on CNBC love take hold?
VOYE CHANGE..BIG CHANGE...REAL CHANGE
Obama?Biden 08
McCain voted to deregulate the financial system.The bill was written by a top McCain advisor Phil Graham who also wrote the Enron loophole on how oil is traded.Both bills McCain voted for.How is McCain going to fix a system that he is responsible for breaking?
Bush Republican legacy, mired in war, economy collapsing. Now we have McCain/Palin preaching the exact same policy gathering up steam. We deserve to implode. You get the government you deserve.
This is just one more HUGE 800-lb gorilla-sized sign that Bush's policies have failed catastrophically, when solid institutions that have meant safety for a generation come crashing down one by one like gigantic dominoes. If people see Mcbush's economic policies of "give it to the rich to fix" are exactly the same as Bush's horrifically mismanaged policies, then people will vote their pocketbooks and the old man and the MILF will just be an unpleasant memory.
Wait a minute, Obama.  It was the CLINTON administration that opened the doors to all of these sub-prime loans.  When they insisted that banks write as much mortgage paper to those who lacked the creditworthiness to qualify for prime mortgages, and insisted that banks writ mortgage paper in urban areas.  For a long time, the real estate Ponzi scheme went along just fine, but, eventually, it was going to implode, as it has.  Those who are now losing their shirts made fortunes just a few years ago.  It is the risk-reward ratio at work.

Those of us who buy houses we can afford, who pay our bills on time, and do not invest in risky ventures, do just fine.  By the way, I thought that those who were the losers in this debacle, i.e. the principles at Lehman, were the 'evil rich' you so despise.

Or maybe you're just worried that they won't have enough money to pay the taxes you seek to impose to give so much away to the 'little people'.
Gee, I wonder how much the big dogs of Lehman were paid over the last five years to come up with this mess?  The top layer of management and the board of directors should be imprisoned and made to forfeit their lofty salaries and cash bonuses for the last five to seven years.  I cannot believe we actually pay people millions of dollars to make dumb decisions. Has to be a bunch of greedy Ivy Leaguers, right?  This is worse, much worse, than the Enron scandle.  Put them in jail NOW!!
Trickle down de-regulate, continue to cut taxes for the wealthy and keep the war in Iraq going until some mythical point of victory is achieved.  McBlinky economics are going to kill the middle class if this guy defeats Obama.  Does anyone imagine the Iraqis are going to build monuments to America for our sacrifices there?
Does anyone expect to see cemetaries there for our dead like there are in Europe?  Bad economics and the Bush-McBlinky war of folly in Iraq will destroy the middle class.  Vote Obama.
I think this is relevant to the discussion, and I hope when people talk economy, they see information like this...

http://mccainpalinworld.com/
Here is my problem with Sen McCain at this point, his current campaign does not demonstrate an example of "Accountability" nor "Transparency".  40 years ago the man might have been a hero but now he is just a politician.

What really scares me is Gov Palin though, based on her past leadership style all of her decisions would be based on those she liked personally and not what was best for the country.
McCain/Palin will protect its rich Republican donors and friends - not ordinary Americans.
Wake up people. Four more years will just add more to the economic distress. McCain and Bush are tied at the hip on economics. Don't fall for their lies and false promises again. In the last 60 years the economy has always been better under Democratic administrations than under republican. Even Allan Greenspan says John McCain's economic policy will hurt the economy. Don't be railroaded by Karl Rovian tactics again. Where did it get you the last time? Are you better off now than you were 8 years ago?
Thank you, Mr. Bush.

Your economic policies and reconfigured Reaganomics have helped bankrupt company and company, while we've sold increasingly larger interests to countries like China and Dubai.

You've helped tank the dollar.

We're seeing the largest rate of foreclosures since the Great Depression.

I'm watching my IRA tank.

I'm watching my 401(k) tank.

Gas is ridiculous.

Milk is ridiculous.

Thank you for allowing America in 2004 to give you four more years to tank this country even further.

I can't WAIT to vote for John McCain so he can only further your policies and eliminate the middle class even MORE, putting more families out on the street.

I mean, he's got a folksy perky VP from a small town, so she MUST be one of us. She put her small town of 6,700 into $20 million of debt while enjoy $30 million in federal money. I can't wait for her to increase America's debt into the stratosphere!

http://www.rodneyhopper.com
John McCain is no maverick, especially on the economy. Expect him to pretend that he will "reform" Wall Street with Washington, but he represents the same deregulation and the same tax breaks to the wealthy that got our country so far in debt to foreign investors that it can't effectively deal with these crises. Spend and don't tax spells disaster. After 8 years of Republican world, let's give the Democrats and Barack Obama a chance!
The breadline starts here!


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