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Biden labels McCain 'Bush 44'

Posted: Monday, September 15, 2008 2:04 PM by Mark Murray
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From NBC/NJ's Mike Memoli
ST. CLAIR SHORES, Mich. -- In his first major speech since accepting the vice presidential nomination in August, Biden said that the McCain he once knew has been replaced by a new McCain, one who should really be called “Bush 44.”

“Folks, we’ve seen this movie before,” Biden said, reminding voters what George Bush had promised reform and a new tone in Washington as a candidate, but failed to deliver. “And we know, the sequel is always worse than the original.”

VIDEO: Sen. Joe Biden says Sen. John McCain's economic plan would provide additional tax breaks for the rich and the oil industry while hurting the middle class.

Speaking here in Macomb County, referred to as the heart of Reagan Democratic terrain, Biden focused primarily on the economy, pouncing especially on McCain saying again today that he fundamentals of the economy remain strong.

“That’s what John said,” Biden assured a booing crowd. “He says that, ‘We’ve made great progress economically’ in the Bush years. Ladies and gentlemen, ladies and gentlemen, I could walk from here to Lansing, and I wouldn’t run into a single person who thought our economy was doing well -- unless I ran into John McCain.”

Biden also referred to McCain once saying he did not understand the economy as well as he should, and he said McCain proved it by seeking advice from the likes of Phil Gramm and others, who have "cocooned" him from what middle-class Americans really face today.

"Remember, John’s the guy who when asked define the middle class said below $5 million in income," he said.

The speech was the first of two so-called framing speeches, in which Biden would use his longstanding friendship with McCain as ammo to remind voters of his true positions.

“I promise you, there is simply no daylight between John McCain and George Bush -- at least none that I’ve been able to discern,” he said. “Don’t take my word for it, look John McCain’s record. Ninety percent of the time, John has voted with George Bush.”

He specifically pointed to his support for privatizing Social Security, to opposing an investigation of Hurricane Katrina, and to a health-care plan that would tax the benefits Americans receive from their employers.

And although Biden said he remains McCain’s friend, he said he’s most disappointed with how he’s running his campaign today, one that he said distracts voters from the real issues -- just as voters need to make a serious decision. He said it’s reminiscent of the attacks McCain faced himself in 2000, but that he’s now employing some of the same people who executed them.

“What really bothers me is that every punch that’s thrown at us -- it’s an attempt to distract you, to distract the American people from the very important issues that face this country,” he said. “It’s disappointing to me, it’s disappointing to me literally to think that the guy I knew, John McCain really does approve this message, as he says at the end of every one of these things.”

Biden closed by offering in brief some of the Obama-Biden ticket’s plans, which he said are based on the idea that this generation should leave the nation in a better place than it found.

“This is what we mean when we talk about change. This is the change we need,” he said. “And yes, this campaign is about change. But it’s even about more than that. It’s about what we value as a people. It’s not just about jobs; it’s about dignity. It’s not just about a paycheck; it’s about pride. It’s not just about opportunity; it’s about respect.”

What Biden did not make much mention of was Palin. He did invoke her name, however, in referring an attack line she has used to attack the Democratic ticket, saying all senators do is vote. He countered by recalling many of McCain’s votes, against the crime bill, against funding of renewable energy, and against education benefits for National Guardsmen.

“All I can say is, to Sarah Palin, thank god John McCain’s votes didn’t count in the majority on all of those issues,” he said.

The McCain campaign responded by calling Biden’s comments “ridiculous” and “not credible,” and said the Democrats’ economic plan “raises taxes, kill jobs, increases spending.”

“It’s salesmanship not leadership for Barack Obama and his running mate to tell families in Michigan that they have plans to aid the middle class when they recently both voted in favor of higher taxes,” said McCain spokesman Ben Porritt.

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I guess the liberals in this country are a little dim, so Barack and Joe need to pound this message through their thick skulls over and over before they somehow get it.
great message Joe!  thats the kind of talk i want to hear for the next 50 days.

and the McCain campaign responds with their previously debunked lies about the Dem. tax and energy plan.  i'd rather have a campaign trying to sell me on their platform, than a campaign trying to slander their opponent in any dishonest method that they can come up with...

http://horneddevil.proboards98.com/index.cgi?board=iduspolitics
Yeah, Joe!  McCain wants to give a bunch of union members jobs building oil rigs-what does he know about the economy?  He'll then want to give a bunch of union workers jobs building refinaries, and trucking the gas and oil around the country and. .and. .oh, well;

just insist that the guy in the wheelchair stand up-that's right, STAND UP1 oh, you can't, um, then, EVERYBODY ELSE STAND UP; yeah, that's it. .
If HRC was our candidate, she would have not needed  a tutor for VP.  Especially one who has a son and a father that were/are lobbyists.

PUMAs for HILLARY 2012!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The news from Wall Street is the game changer in the campaign.  Nothing will rivet voters' attention than their economic anxieties and the collapse of the America banking system engineered by the anti-regulation, pro-business, GOP. It was, after all the GOP which governed during the last eight years.  They can talk about reforming Washington, but the Washington that needs reform is the one they created.
Offense is indeed your best defense.  Look at the little republicans cry.   Woa is me.
the Obama-Biden ticket’s plans, which he said are based on the idea that this generation should leave the nation in a better place than it found.

Jefferson said it as well. The earth is granted to each generation that we give it to our progeny in a better state.

Well spoken, Senator Biden!
You konw, I'll take 'just like Bush'. No attacks on ths country in 7 years, a economy that can take a punch like it is now, and not collapse, I know what is going on in the Oval Office and I don't have to explain what a bj is to my kids.

What's Joe and Barack give us? More taxes? How's that help? Running away from our enemies? Better stay out of tall buildings if you want to keep your health.
Given how close McCain and Bush are on most policy issues, it isn't that far a stretch to call them one in the same.  What policy differences are there?  Anyone care to tell me?
Angelina Jolie in 'Tomb Raider': "Oh do SHUT UP [McRant!]!!

If it is 'salesmanship' please, and I've asking this for weeks, WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU OFFERING!!???

'Cause I really do not know where the HELL you stand on ANYTHING!!!
I don't want 4 more years of this B*&^ S)*%!!!

OBAMA/BIDEN 08/12

RABID REPUBLICAN NOW FOR OBAMA/BIDEN!!!!!
What's not credible? Give 'em Hell Joe!
On second thought, 'No need to give 'em hell, just tell the truth and they'll think they're in hell!'

Obama/BIDEN '08
Shout it from the mountain tops, Joe!!
They need to ax this guy and try to get Hillary on the ticket.  Were not going to win with this BUSH garbage - hey fellow Democrats!  Bush isn't running.  Why are we shooting ourself's in the foot with thos bogus attack?
McCain = Rove Politics = Bush 44  
McCain's campaign is out of touch and run by lobbyists. THEY WILL DO NOTHING for the middle and low income families. We've seen this over the last 8 years and those failed policies don't work at all.



Obama/Biden '08
Tell us the truth about Obama's stand on his issues contained in this clip                       www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAChj379yS8 first. Ask Rachel Maddlow to discuss this on her show- while checking the politicians facts.
How in the world anybody could even consider giving the GOP 4 more years in the White House after the last 8 is way beyond me. People need to start voting with their heads, not the BS they get from the McCain ads.
When will the media get a stomach? why are you so scared to report the truth on McCain? If you report the truth, you will definitely have the support of the American people. you have a responsibility to quesiton things. We need some heroes in our country that will stand up for the truth when they are in a position of influence. So my advice is to do something
Sock it to them Joe!!!
Don't believe the hype!  I'm from Philly and this guy isn't my Senator.  Delaware can have him because we don't want him.  Biden is all talk and just another Democrat Yes man doing what ever the Party asks.  A no nonsense gun shooting girl from Alaska doesn't sound to bad to me considering what's next door.  I think it about time for a shake up from the Alaskan wild.
Joe Biden, keep it up.  We cannot have eight more years of the same.  ENOUGH!
In regard to the economy.  Democrats have discussed regulation as a means of preventing the current economic problems in the future, only to hear jeers about BIG GOVERNMENT and BIG BROTHER.  Yet today, John McCain is out there talking about regulation and he is being cheered for his "responsible" approach.

These partisian politics are killing this country.  Plan A works if we propose it but would fail if "THEY" propose it.  People need to vote for their best interests and set aside the politics.
I am tired of blogging ..Just waiting for the media to do it's job...The media slammed Obama for the Rev. Wright u tube clip..The media slammed Michele Obama
for comments that were taken out of context-- questioning her patriotism..I've yet to see any coverage longer than 15 sec of Palin's church video(scary stuff by the way)..I've yet to see any full-length coverage on Todd Palin and his ties to The Alaskan Independence Party...The AIP has made some very harsh & less than patriotic statements about
the U.S.I realize that the media has always regarded
McCain in a friendly fashion as he WAS viewed by many
as closer to the CENTER or MODERATE.. That McCain is gone forever and he made that choice..It's obvious he's still your friend...Friends don't let friends drive drunk..
Thank God McCain's votes didn't count. If it did as a woman I would have not rights. As an Black woman I would a slave. Thank God
Is this as original as the Democrats can get - please say it isn't so.  I'll stay home before I vote for NObama/Biden.
McCain, stop lying about Obama wanting to raise taxes!

Why do we allow liars to run for president?
In your DREAMS Biden.

During this particular time of year, every four years, there is absolutely so much CARBAGE floating around it is outrageous.

Biden, for someone who is a part of a "change" team, you are a little old, have a lot of OLD ideas, and a son who is a lobbyist.

Now we all know, even if you are in the first grade, that lobbyist are the individuals who use their jobs to change white papers by adding on a tremendous mount of junk that always costs the tax payers substantially.

Biden - too old to be a Change Agent

Biden - your son is one of the major problems with the U.S. economy because he is a lobbyist.

Obama, you have no experience to be a change agent.  Think back to the time you took a class in school when it was rather difficult for you.  You have no common frame of reference, or in other words, you have no experience in that genre.

WELLLLLLLLLLLLL, Obama has no executive, military, leadership, or debating skills.  (That is why he became a community organizer as opposed to following the legal paty  --  he cannot argue for a client.)

Go home Obama/Biden

It is McCain/Palin all the way
I heard they were busing in people to attend the Obama rally in Colorado because the original crowd estimate wasn't large enough.  Please tell me this isn't true.
TO me McCain reaching across the aisle is a testament to just how far right the Republican party has become. It also tellm me how synical a pick Palin is b/c she would never subscribe to any of these middle of the road positions McCaine used to support.

Gman (Sent Monday, September 15, 2008 10:40 AM)

Actually, Gman, you're wrong.  Saw a documentary this w/e that reviewed bills and vetoes she has been involved with. Shows that she has been quite centrist as governor. Know what her first veto was?  It concerned denying rights to gay partners.  Not exactly a republican position!  Before  you start spewing stuff, you might want to educate yourself. It's called being an informed voter. Whether you like the other person's position or not,  you ought not tell lies like this.
Palin needs to be called out on the below - she can't take credit for a bill that Obama wrote!

"Now Gov. Sarah Palin promises to bring an Alaskan reform to Washington:

"I've got another idea that I think Senator McCain likes. In Alaska, we took the state checkbook and put it online, so everyone can see where their money goes. We're going to bring that kind of openness to Washington," she said.

Just one problem, Sen. Obama already helped pass the law which did just that.  But it gets better...

As some of you might remember, Sen. Barack Obama and Sen. Tom Coburn teamed up to co-sponsor a bill that created the website USASpending.gov; which tracks federal contracts and expenditures in an easily searchable site.

Only, there was one problem, some Senator placed a secret hold on the bill to keep it from getting passed.  That Senator?  None other than Pork King and Sarah Palin mentor Ted Stevens.  Yes, while she was directing Stevens' 527, he was blocking the same reforms already passed, which Sarah Palin claims she'll bring to Washington."

Please read article titled: Be Careful What You Say While Campaigning…. God May Be Watching located at http://www.cliffyworld.com/blogs
Joe hit this one out of the park!  Great speech and it is about time the media got over Palin and focused on the Better qualified VP pick


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