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McCain vs. Obama: Economic battle

Posted: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 9:33 AM by Domenico Montanaro

The Washington Post looks at how the current financial crisis brings the economy back to the forefront. "McCain faces the bigger challenge. As the Republican nominee, he must answer for what has happened on President Bush's watch and offer a plausible explanation for why his conservative administration would be genuinely different. Obama already is attacking him as ill-equipped to deal with the financial crisis and has aggressively moved to tie a future McCain administration to a lobbyist-dominated Washington culture.”

VIDEO: McCain talks about the economy, talks politics, and defends his 'kindergarten-sex education' attack ad on MSNBC's 'Morning Joe'.

“Obama's challenge is different. He begins with the reality that Democrats are seen as the party that is more trusted to deal with the economy. Despite that, he has struggled through much of the year to develop a compelling economic message. Where he remains suspect is on the strength of his leadership and his ability to connect with working- and middle-class voters."

More: "McCain's own admission, the economy is not his natural turf, and his comments yesterday seemed less than sure-footed. At his first event of the day, he acknowledged that the economy is in difficult straits and promised to shake up Washington and Wall Street. But he also said he still thinks that ‘the fundamentals of our economy are strong’… By the time the Republican nominee had made the short flight to Orlando for a town hall meeting, his campaign had e-mailed reporters new remarks he would deliver. They seemed a 180-degree turn. If McCain's earlier comments had seemed designed to reassure, his new ones were dire. ‘The American economy is in a crisis -- in a crisis,’ he repeated.” 

VIDEO: Biden talks about what he meant when he said Republicans aren't used to "smart people," and the differences in running for the Senate as opposed to vice president is that America is in trouble right now.

The New York Times looks at how both McCain and Obama might handle the mess on Wall Street. McCain's "record on the issue, and the views of those he has always cited as his most influential advisers, suggest that he has never departed in any major way from his party’s embrace of deregulation and relying more on market forces than on the government to exert discipline. While Mr. McCain has cited the need for additional oversight when it comes to specific situations, like the mortgage problems behind the current shocks on Wall Street, he has consistently characterized himself as fundamentally a deregulator and he has no history prior to the presidential campaign of advocating steps to tighten standards on investment firms."

Meanwhile, "Obama set out his general approach to financial regulation in March, calling for regulating investment banks, mortgage brokers and hedge funds much as commercial banks are. And he would streamline the overlapping regulatory agencies and create a commission to monitor threats to the financial system and report to the White House and Congress.”

McCain and Biden appeared on TODAY to discuss the economy. NBC’s Matt Lauer asked McCain about his comment yesterday that the fundamentals of the economy are strong. McCain pivoted back to workers. “It’s obviously true that the workers … are the fundamentals of our economy,” McCain said, adding later, “Americans are hurting. Our workers are the best.” When Lauer though asked, “Isn’t there something fundamentally wrong with our economy?” McCain again simply spoke about workers. “There’s nothing wrong with our workers. America is in crisis because of greed, excess….”
 
Biden showed his feisty side, while interviewed by NBC's Meredith Vieira, going right after McCain, saying, “Hire a doctor who’s just been convicted of malpractice? You going to do that?” He accused McCain of not supporting legislation that would have curbed CEO severance packages for bankrupted companies. “We need to correct problems that caused this,” Biden said, adding, “Why didn’t he do something to help the middle-class people. … Give the tax cut to the middle class; give some help to the middle class here. You haven’t heard the word middle class cross the lips” of Republicans.

The Los Angeles Times: "The growing sense of urgency about instability in the housing and financial sectors may pressure both McCain and Obama to flesh out economic policies that have been vague or overshadowed by a blizzard of character attacks and negative campaigning. The last week, for example, has included bickering over the McCain campaign's charge that Obama was making a sexist reference to Palin in talking about ‘putting lipstick on a pig.’”

Politico also examines the two candidates’ responses to yesterday. "Obama aims to pin the blame squarely on the Republican Party’s philosophy of deregulation and to argue that his policies could have worked, and will work, to avoid such crises. McCain, meanwhile, hopes to turn the conversation from the financial crisis to the broader economy and to make the case that his tax cuts on the wealthy and on corporations would stimulate the economy where Obama’s plan would slow it. Both candidates are blaming insiders and influence peddlers and are casting themselves as the true reformers."

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Did anybody McPunk on Morning Joe..
Cheap shot!...that's you calling you you.
This guy is always looking for a fight..well he'll find one someday.. I hope not with our military...
John McCain as the biggest Napoleonic personna I've ever seen...and that scares me..
I wonder what he thinks about Brigadier General MacArthur?
Hero or loose cannon?
This should be a no brainer win for Obama. He has plenty of proposals and solutions where as the old guy has NONE. nothing but talk

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From yesterday
MICHIGAN: "Michigan's history of racial tensions is tugging against its Democratic tendencies, giving Barack Obama fits in a state where almost everything else -- a soaring unemployment rate, a shrinking auto industry and a depressed housing market -- potentially benefits Democrats," the AP writes. "The first minority candidate with a serious shot at the presidency is not running as well as his Democratic predecessors among working-class whites in this pivotal Midwestern swing state, partly because of the color of his skin."

I read this story on the AP last night. Seems the author sights 1 source for the assertion that Michigan is full of poor white racest. A guy who said he has friends who wont vote for Obama because of his color. This was a hit job on my state. We are not racest up here and the fact that the MSM is making excuses for “If Obama loses is totally BS. There are plenty of reasons Obama is not doing so good here from the Goveinor to the biggest citys mayor scandle. But this lazy jurnalist (and with work like this I hesetate to even call her that) just mailed in her article and in the process slandered my state.
McCain's statements yesterday that "we will not let this happen again" are laughable.

That's not leadership!

Not letting it happen again?  How about not letting it happen in the first place?
Simple..you fire the party who brought you to this crisis...Republicans.


there is one big blame for this mess

deregulation

the overwhelming captain of deregulation?

the guy who wrote Mccain's economic platform.

the same guy who received 750k last year alone to fight for deregulation in the banking sector.

Phil Gramm

Same team

same tactics

same outcome

9th year/

throw these bums out.
I was glad to see the campaigns return to issues yesterday, and issue #1 is definitely the economy.  Wall Street has been reaping the benefits of Bush-era deregulation for too long.  It is time to put safeguards in place to protect our investments, our 401Ks are in jeopardy here because of the profit-taking of the few.  Think about how many retirees are planning on their investment accounts to help them weather the storms of old age while retaining control of their destinies.  My parents are.  Can we afford to give even another *minute* to these hands-off republicans?  We cannot.  NO MORE!
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This ain't no flag pin baby..
The fat cats are hurting now..but the regular guy is going to pay for? NFW!!!

We need Obama/Biden even more now!
The problem with any issue analysis based on past statements or actions is this: John McCain has proved repeatedly that he'll say or do anything to get votes. The only indication of what he might actually do as President is to look at the people supporting him and running his campaign: the same old crowd, leading to the same old result. Them that has, gets.
McCain needs to address, in very certain terms, precisely how his administration will be different from that of George W. Bush's.  Otherwise, the Obama campaign can hammer the 'more of the same' message all they want to.

McCain and Bush are both Republicans and supposedly share the same 'vision' for our country.  If McCain's vision is different, he needs to spell out how.  Otherwise, I think Obama will win in November -- despite the Palin bump in the polling.

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Again with the tax cuts on the wealthy and the corporations???? When will Americans ever LEARN?  The tax cuts on the wealthy and the corporations that Bush has done for the past 8 years has really helped us well, hasn't it?  How any American could even consider voting for another Republican boggles the mind!
The main problem with Obama is that he's been in a total panic since the Palin selection. And instead of appealing to the Independents and the Moderates, he's gone back to trying to appeal to his base. His speeches have sounded like Matthews and Olbermann have wrote them. Obama is appealing to the left wing fringe of his party, but is losing the middle ground. He keeps doing this, and his poll numbers will look like McGoverns before we get to October.
A few moments ago, a McCain surrogate on MSNBC, when asked about McCain's tax plan vs Obama's tax plan, just went into a full blown explanation of the cost of their health plans.  Didn't answer and the anchor didn't press her on it.  We aren't that stupid, you know.  Then an Obama surrogate did the usual talking points about Bush policies vs the future.  I wish that Obama would approve surrogates and their statements before letting them fumble around without pertinent specifics.
Get in the game, Barack.  You should be able to trample McCain on this.
Again with the tax cuts on the wealthy and the corporations???? When will Americans ever LEARN?  The tax cuts on the wealthy and the corporations that Bush has done for the past 8 years has really helped us well, hasn't it?  How any American could even consider voting for another Republican boggles the mind!
WITH ALL HIS RECORDBREAKING FUNDRAISING ---- OBAMA CAMPAIGN IS HAVING MONEY PROBLEMS!  UNBELIEVABLE.  OBAMA MONEY MANAGEMENT 101 ---- SPEND, SPEND, and SPEND SOME MORE. "SPEND LIKE IT IS TAXPAYERS MONEY".

Spending like a drunken sailor.
No one is going to trust Obama, a less than one term US president, with the economy.  While McCAin is no better, he won the perception/trust race, and therefore, will win in November...

Obama will lose...Hillary would've won...told you so!!!
Tax cuts have not worked. Republican economic platforms don't change and if we put McCain in, just give me the shovel so I can dig my way to China to get my money back.   I wish the media would just keep flashing the numbers that Hardballs, Chris Matthews showed yesterday as comparisons of when Bush took office and where we are now.  Those are the facts!
And what does Obama know about the economy? Being a lawyer gives him what insight? I'm certain as a community activitst, ehh, organizer, he had to buy groceries now in then, but that just doesn't cut it to know anything about the economy. Lets face it, business people know a lot more about the economy then either McCain to Obama. Best let them handle that end of the equation and make sure Washington keeps it's paws off of them.
Here is a glimpse into what McCain is made of when it really comes to the economy:

"McCain on his 'Keating 5' scandal. It was ground zero in the S&L crisis of the 80's. Exact same thing as today S&L's deregulated took on huge risk and callopsed. McCAin tried to used his senate position to stop an investigation into Charles Keating and Lincon S&L. 3 people went to JAIL. McCAin is saying he will reform banks and he was part of this. Palin probably never head of Keating 5."
Of course McInsane wants to talk about the broader economic debate!

That way, he can continue to avoid the specific economic issues of which he does not have a clue.

His obvious pandering to the working class American does nothing to alleviate our financial pain.

TICKCLE DOWN ECONOMICS DOES NOT WORK!!!!

Thank you John McCain for reminding us that there are some positive things about our country.  If you listen to the Obama campaign we are doomed to live here and we have little chance to save our country.  I would rather have someone come out with something positive to say on a day when things are going wrong.  My vote is for John McCain.  We live in the best country in the world.  My personal financial situation is not great right now, but we live in a free society with many opportunities and we can make changes to improve our situation because of that very freedom.  That is what makes this country great and John McCain sees that.  I wish the country wasn't so divided....it would make our country a better place.  John McCain is willing to cross party lines (i.e. Lieberman) and he will surround himself with experienced people like himself to move this country in the right direction.
did anyone see the economy interviews on TOday this morning?  I think something's seriously wrong with mCCain.  He talked like a zombie and repeated himself at least 4 times with his lame defense of his "strong economy" statements.

By contrast, Biden was sharp, intelligent and actually conversed with Matt Lauer.  This was not a canned statement as McCain's surely was.
If you think you can trust George Bush, you'll just LOVE a McCain administration: http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/325.html

P.S. I miss Tim Russert. Where have all the journalists gone?
The problem with trickle-down is that there are more and more people standing beneath the trickle trying to catch a drop of whatever there is that's trickling...and it ain't much.
This is getting outrageous!!!!!  The reason that McCain was not aware of the economy crisis on yesterday is because he did not get an e-mail.....Why?  Because he doens'y know how to use the computer.  In addition, he must acknowledge there is a crisis before he can attempt to fix it.  He is in such denial...out of touch.

How can a great number of women in America see themselves in Sarah Palen...I certainly don't!  I do not eat moose burgers,  I don't hire my unqualified classmates to work in high positions,  I don't shoot animals for sport (Michael Vick got sent to prison for such), I don't fire staff that is not on the same page and same line as I am, I don't accept a position that I KNOW that I am not qualified for, I don't have a staff to care for my children,  I can't bring my children to work, and on and on and on.  I'm not sure who you are polling but it's certainly not me and not like any of the women I know!

You guys at MSNBC keep getting it twisted...You give us incorrect information and want us to believe it...sounds like John McCain.  You stated this morning on Joe that Obama is quilty of this and that and that is why he is falling behind.  The truth be told, He has run the best campaign in history and he had done it from start to present.  The only thing he is quilty of is being black.  Come on people.


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