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Dems propose drilling bill

Posted: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 11:24 AM by Domenico Montanaro
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From NBC's Mike Viqueira


You may notice some shouting today coming from the direction of the U.S. House, as the chamber takes up a Democratic bill that would open portions of the continental shelf for oil drilling.

The measure represents a reversal of earlier positions held by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who for the past months, has resisted any and all calls to expand off-shore drilling.

Now, after a summer of quasi-sessions held by Republicans on the House floor and "drill baby, drill" at the GOP convention and Democratic nominee Obama saying he would be for off-shore drilling as part of a larger energy plan, Pelosi and Dem leadership have had a change of heart.

But it doesn't go far enough for Republicans.

The Democratic measure sets a 50-mile boundary off shore if individual states permit drilling off their coasts; that's too far, say Republicans, because it would leave vast reserves closer to shore untouched.

The bill would divert some of the royalties paid by oil companies to renewable energy programs. Republicans say that more should go to states in order to provide them an incentive to allow drilling off their coasts. Also, the bill does not open ANWR for drilling, and Republicans think that it should.

In any event, the bill stands little chance of passing Congress before the end of the month, when Congress is expected to leave town for the campaign trail.

Aside from whatever policy merits the measure may or may not have, it has the advantage of allowing rank and file Democrats -- many of whom have suffered politically because of the drilling question -- to go on the record as voting in favor of an expansion.

Pelosi is once again demonstrating a practical side to running the place, putting a bill on the floor that is opposed by the Left in order to protect her majority. Detractors say the move is nakedly political and a hoax.

For their part, Republicans are unlikely to agree to anything short of the sun, moon and stars when it comes to an issue that has given them political traction in a year that was shaping up as an electoral calamity.

They plan to throw a fit today on the floor, calling for procedural votes and using other dilatory tactics as a means of expressing their dismay and drawing attention to their advocacy of more drilling.

Environmental groups, normally Democratic allies, oppose this bill and any other measure that expands off-shore drilling.

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Heeeelarious!!  Too little too late, Pelosi.  And we can see through your pandering.  Don't suppose the Dems will scream "flip-flop" on this one, huh?  

Good One!!!

Well that only leaves one piggy left..
That little piggy went we we we all the way home...
and
John how can you find government pork when you have so much lipstick on...?
BJ, CA (Sent Tuesday, September 16, 2008 9:58 AM)


There should be a rule attached that any oil drilled in the U.S. stays in the U.S.

Millions of barrels per day of U.S. drilled  oil is currently exported to China, among other places.

The oil companies (i.e. Republicans) want to expand drilling so they can export more while we are still stuck paying for oil from the mideast.

Drill It Here, Keep It Here.

Typical Republicans to refuse compromise. If everyone feels like they're getting screwed, it's probably a good plan.
Just go on and throw a bone at the Repubs on the drilling so they can look good at their consituency.  Everyone with sense knows that we need off of oil PERIOD--not just foreign oil.  Offshore drilling will do nothing but appease folks who cannot get their head out of the sand and face what our future will be.  If they can get the renewables into the bill, just add the drilling.  It can be cancelled before a rig is ever in place.
So the Republicans are whining like little preschoolers because they aren't getting EVERYTHING their way.  

Why aren't they willing to compromise??

Oh thats right, just more of the same 'my way of the highway' that we have gotten  from the current administration for the last eight.

LOSERS.
Drilling for oil is a very small aspect of an over all plan that must be undertaken.  In a world that is filled with oil producers able to increase or decrease production to manipulate demand, just how will our being able to increase the potential production by 3-5% do anything to control the cost of crude?  

Energy costs will only be contained when consumers are provide viable alternatives to oil....not more oil.  
A phony bill produced by phony people. The Democrats just don't get it do they? Here they wring their little hands about people having to pay high gas prices, and do nothing to solve the problem. The Dems solution? Tax the oil companies more! Okay, how does that help?

The polls are swinging to McCain, not because he's any great shakes or anything, it's just that the Democrats are soooo bad.
yet republican's continue to claim that they will cross partisan divides and get compromise done, when here is a prime example of them being unwilling to compromise on anything.

pathetic. so much for their being willing to build bridges across the partisan divide...

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So the dems will propose a sorta bill for sorta drilling that has no chance of passing for the sake of being able to say that they DO support drilling, sorta, but not where there is any oil, and THEY THINK THIS WILL SELL???

Wait a minute-they nominated Barack Obama.  I had forgotten for a moment just how stupid they think voters are.
I BELIEVE THERE IS "OIL" IN SARA PALIN'S BACK YARD, LET'S START BY DRILLING THERE. I'AM SURE SHE WILL NOT MIND.
Yeahh, as if they wouldn't change their minds because in not doing so they have shop themselves in the foot buy saying they want energy independence. What a Loser Obama would make the higher income pay higher taxes and if any Americans hve any thought in their heads they would realize when they pay more they just pass the cost down the line to the working class WE CANNOT AFFORD OBAMANATION. Taes may go down for middle class but in the end we'll still pay. BAD FOR ECONOMY OBAMA IS NO GOOD AND HAS NO ANSWER. Just bigger government which the middle and lower class payes for. NOBAMA,NOBAMA,NOBAMA NO WAY!!!!!!!!!
There go the Republicans again. Just like George Bush its either their way or no way at all. They complain about partisanship and yet they are the ones unwilling to compromise. I say vote them out.
3 months ago, it looked like it would be an absolute blood bath with the Democrats sweeping this November. Now, there is a real chance of the Republicans winning the presidency, winning back the senate, and picking up seats in the house. And the the drilling issue is only one reason why the Republicans fortunes are turning. People look at the Democrats and ask themselves, "Can the Democrats be that stupid?". Apparently, they can be!
Drill what is already leased if you must drill something. It still will not belong to the USA! It will be sold to the highest bidder! That will be China no doubt. What happens in America should Stay in America!Without that guarantee it is p---ing into the wind.
A little CYA from Nancy and Harry, the two boob twins. It won't work you two. We know what you're up to. It's just another line of bs and another smoke screen.
Although an obvious political move by the Dems if played correctly can be a major headache for the right. It will be hard to stand by and vote against a drilling program that supports revenues for alternative energy sources and still claim the high ground on the issue. The right will be babbling about how this will not be enough that we should open all areas for drilling while the Dems can reclaim the high ground with refocusing Americans on alternatives. Increased volume on the issue could result in some Americans seeing the view of the Dems that the Right should be perceived to be in the pocket of “big oil” as a result not looking out for our pocketbook issues.

Great move now push the bill through!!!!
It shows the dems are trying to do more for americans than the repugs.  
So... now who's being dogmatic?

The story now should be 'Why can't the Republicans compromise?'

http://www.rodneyhopper.com
FR --> Environmental groups, normally Democratic allies, oppose this bill and any other measure that expands off-shore drilling. <---

Environmental groups OWN the Democratic party. If you want cheaper gas prices, vote Republican, because you're never going to get any relief from the Democrats on this issue.
I certainly appreciate intellect, judgment and experience Senators' Obama and Biden bring to the ticket. Senator Mcain and Governor Palin Stop the madness with the politics of distraction and distortion!!  I just don't want this feigned elitist crap to continue to rear it's ugly head when the Republic ticket is just out of touch- "We are just whining", "we're in a mental recession", "the average American makes about 5 million", "fighting in occupying on behalf of a dumb war may be needed," "I don't deal much with the day to day", "I can see Russia from Alaska, "America is fundamentally strong," but I don't know much about the Iraq war (son just going there to do something????) or the economy-GOD HELP AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Instead, of focusing on the issues and calling McCain and Palin on their callous stupidity, the pundits will start saying one party thinks they are "better" than the other.  I say integrity, character, hard-work and promoting those who strive to be among the best and the brightest count when you want to assume leadership, especially of our great country.

I'm not looking for someone to have a beer with or somebody just like me (didn't look for those things from my former bosses, those with whom I cut business deals or those I entrust to teach my children, protect my money, or the free world).  However, I am looking to gain the power to impact real, true change from education to economics (healthcare, energy resources, etc. will stem therefrom) so that we can serve as a powerful example of good and compete globally in the free world. And, oh, my goodness, smart, tough, capable women are not interchangeable simply because we have the same body parts!  

PLEASE REPORT REAL NEWS! AND TELL SMUG JOE (HE SMIRKED AND SHOWED HIS LOW-BLOW, BELOW THE GUTTER SELF WHEN HE TALKED ABOUT THE CHILD PREDATOR AD) HOW PERVERSE HE IS, AND "ME TOO MIKKA" (please like me McCain, my brother worked for Bush and you too, even though my well-respected highly educated dad supports Obama)  TO DO THEIR JOBS.  MIKKA DOESN'T CARE ABOUT WOMEN, SHE MORE CONCERNED THAT JOHN MCCAIN KNOWS SHE'S A LIGHTWEIGHT JUST LIKE PALIN.    

A Rising Tide Keeps all Boats Afloat  

Obama/Biden 08-12




<Pelosi is once again demonstrating a practical side to running the place>

The only practical thing Pelosi has done is, Practically Nothing.
I don't understand why it's so hard to promote alternative fuel sources.  Seems the easy combination of saying oil prices are globally set, burning oil polutes our air, and this can be resolved in a short amount of time by switching to alternative fuels such as CNG, which according to the API, T Boone Pickens and many others is an abundant source right here at home.

But I guess drill baby drill fits on a bumper sticker and my idea doesn't.

Maybe we say Oil Bad.  Natural Gas Good.  The Geico Cavemen could understand that, right?
once again we have an issue, rather than a soultion. I'm glad the dems get the talking point but where is all this reaching across the aisle to get things done for the people they were sent there to serve!!!!!
LOL this is how you win. You beat the Republicans just like the Clinton did back in the 90's. Lets take away their talking point because they know that drilling will not do anything to help us get off of oil or lower the price of gas.
http://twocanpete.blogspot.com/
It's going to be hard to outflank a lipstick wearing pig but I wish them the best!
As always, the Repugnants REFUSE to compromise.

OBAMA/BIDEN, 2008!
So, basically, both sides play politics with a complex issue that the GOP has tried to use to their advantage on an unsuspecting public.

People in the middle of the country, which is most of it, don't care about off-shore drilling since it will not be their shores bespoiled by the inevitable spills and problems. Oil companies just want to get their foot in the door, but will not likely spend vast sums in off-shore drilling on the off chance that they may find some reserves. But "Drill, Baby, Drill" sells well, and trick people into thinking it will actually help them.

The Dems are correct that we need to break our reliance on oil, both foreign AND domestic. It won't last forever and there is so much demand for oil worldwide, that the only productive long-term option is to find other energy sources.

Shame on both sides for not making that requirement clear to the voters for our society to advance.
Instead of "throw[ing] a fit today on the floor" -- why don't they try supporting something that will actually have an impact on the price of gasoline TODAY? There are a ton of ideas being floated by T Boone Pickens and others that are WAY MORE EFFECTIVE than the "drill, baby, drill" mentality that got us into this mess. They're all about HIGH DRAMA, not about finding REAL SOLUTIONS.
USE IT OR LOSE IT.... DEMS ARE NOT GOING TO GIVE  THE GOP MORE FOR SPECULATION.
USE IT OR LOSE IT.....
sell-outs

playing to the ignorant masses rather than educating people on energy independence

drilling is a sham, not any kind of solution
No Drilling No Drilling yell Obama and the other democratic politicians. Wait the people want drilling and it's election time, so.....drill baby drill yell the democrats. Of Course McCain has been calling for this for sometime now. Oh and Obama has said he may wait to increase taxes on corporations because it will hinder development at a critical time in our economy. Oh and don't forget he changed his mind about Nafta, putting him closer to more free trade. All things McCain has been calling for since before he began campaigning.  
Nothing but the total destruction of all of our land and our environmental resources would be good enough for the Republicans.

Yeah, Republicans are real open to compromise.  Sure John McCain, you will bring real reform to your party. Give me a freaking break.
We have to move away from politics as usual. This is the reason why we are paying a LOT for gasoline. No one is open to compromise, new ideas or even a bad idea. These politicians have made up their mind in what will they do for whom (Donors). Everything MUST be on the table for us to be able to sort this mess up. Politicians - WAKE UP or else.


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