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If she can't run a major company...

Posted: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 4:08 PM by Domenico Montanaro
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From NBC's Domenico Montanaro
Former Hewlett Packard CEO Carly Fiorina, a chief McCain surrogate, said on a radio show Palin is not qualified to run a major corporation.

(The story was first reported by Sam Stein at Huffington Post. Fiorina later confirmed and defended what she said, going further in an interview this afternoon with NBC's Andrea Mitchell on MSNBC dismissing McCain, Obama or Biden's capability to run a company.)

Video: Current McCain supporter, and former HP CEO Carly Fiorina, tells NBC's Andrea Mitchell that in her opinion, none of the candidates are up to running a major corporation.

The radio host asked, "Do you think she [Palin] has the experience to run a major company, like Hewlett-Packard?"
 
"No. I don't," Fiorina said. "But you know what? That's not what she's running for [laughs]. Running a corporation is a different set of things. I would just remind you that it is Barack Obama who is running for president, John McCain who is running for president. Sarah Palin has more executive experience than Barack Obama has. Barack Obama has never made an executive decision in his life. He has been a state senator and during his time there when a difficult issue came up, he voted present over 100 times instead of standing up and being accountable to a yes or no vote. He has been in the U.S. Senate for a very short period of time and has been running for office most of that time.
 
"Sarah Palin as a mayor and a governor has made executive decisions, challenged her own party, taken accountability for those decisions, so I find it quite stunning actually that the Barack Obama campaign is questioning Sarah Palin's experience who's got more executive experience than he does -- and she's the vice presidential nominee. Barack Obama is the presidential nominee." 
 
But later she told NBC's Mitchell that neither McCain nor Obama nor Biden were qualified to run a major corporation. 
 
"Well, I don't think John McCain could run a major corporation; I don't think Barack Obama could run a major corporation; I don't think Joe Biden could run a major corporation.

"But, on the other hand, running a major corporation is not the same as being the president or the vice president of the United States. It is a fallacy to suggest that the country is like a company. So, of course, to run a business, you have to have a lifetime of experience in business. But that's not what Sarah Palin, John McCain, Joe Biden or Barack Obama are doing."

But as MSNBC's Norah O'Donnell pointed out while interviewing Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty, the U.S. government is the largest employer in the United States "with more than 1.8 million civilian employees," according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics
 
The Obama campaign seized on the first part of Fiorina's comments while on MSNBC.

“If John McCain’s top economic advisor doesn’t think he can run a corporation, how on Earth can he run the largest economy in the world in the midst of a financial crisis?" Obama spokesman Tommy Vietor writes. "Apparently even the people who run his campaign agree that the economy is an issue John McCain doesn’t understand as well as he should."

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Seen on the dailykos - 'Government can fix anything... and anything it can't fix just means that the government isn't big enough! '

Scary.
Opened up a bank account at aig - and I got a free toaster and a free tire gauge!
Considering her record at HP, I don't think Carly Fiorina is qualified to say who is or isn't capable of running a Fortune 500 Company.
Yep now she is taking the Bush way and not cooperating with the investigation..well way I look at it if you did nothing wrong you have nothing to hide.  Wake up America...this woman is a phoney to the max.  And all you people in Youngstown wonder why you are in such financial trouble...well keep supporting the republican party...you deserve what you get.  Oh and I might add..how can the democrats be tainting it when the board consisted of three republicans and only two democrats????  Explain that one Klondike Barbie.  Even a republican strategist said a commission wont work...pretty bad when his own party knows he is wrong.  But then...the economy is fundamentally strong right????? lololol  Lets see what lies they spew now that they are both together campaigning again.  Heck this man knows he is weak on everything so he needs Klondike Barbie to take attention away from the real issues at hand.  Wake up.
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The former CEO of HP is the one to talk. Lost her position to mismanagement and give severance pay to leave was a joke. Keep you advise because I don't think Obama or Joe will ask you. A loose cannon that will sink any ship. Ask the shareholders of HP.
Open mouth, insert foot...
Major Gaffe that will haunt McCain for a good while.  
Finally the Dems are on the offensive.  Today is a happy day for me.
"...He (Barack) has been a state senator and during his time there when a difficult issue came up, he voted present over 100 times instead of standing up and being accountable to a yes or no vote".

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Ms Fiorina:

You need to get your facts straight. Barack voted 136 times out of 3000 votes on isses.

In the Illinois senate you can vote present for a bill that does not have language that you agree with. A present vote states that you were there to vote.

You should know better. And you should not associate yourself with the lies of McCain and Palin.

And she's right.  I wouldn't vote for any of them
Is it me, or does Carly Fiorina seem just a bit self-centered?  It seems like the conversation is always about her...

http://thepajamapundit.com/
It's true. Only stupid people run for government positions. The only knowledge they have is the gift of gab. Look at Obama for an example. He's got a diploma from a fancy university, but he's dumber then a box of rocks. Biden says he's the poorest Senator in the Senate, and for some weird reason he's proud of it. These people are just pathetic.
Major Corporation? Hell, I would not trust McCain nor Palin to run a lemonade stand. The thought of these two as the leaders of our country is beyond scary.
Clearly Ms. Fiorino is unaware of Sen. Obama's excellent performance in running a multi-million campaign for almost two years.

... and Carly almost ran a major corporation (HP) right into the ground ... :-)
Which would you rather have? A man who graduated at the very bottom of his class in the Naval collage or a man that was elected to head the Harvard Law Review? A woman who took six years at varios small collages to get a communications degree or a Senator who has served in the Senate for years with oodles of forien policy experiance. The choices are obvious if you want well informed people who can think on thier feet without having to take a nap and those who not only are academicaly superior and have shown confidence and judgement when it comes to presenting real programs that will lead us out of the mess that they intend to continue, re. Bush policies.
Palin is a clone of George Bush. We have been there—done that.

It is time for a change.

OBAMA/BIDEN really cares about us.


Indeed...as it turns out the board of HP decided Carly wasn't qualified to run one either...but hey don't confuse a republican with factoids...they can't take it
Response from MCain spokesman Tucker Bounds:

"We deplore the sexist comments of Carly Fiorina, who clearly was inferring that the only reason that Governor Palin couldn't run a major corporation is because she is a woman".

When reminded that Fiorina is a McCain campaign spokesman, Bounds responded:  "oh . . . never mind".
Did you see Hewlett-Packard's track record when Carly Fiorina was CEO?

Apparently she's not capable of running a major corporation either!

Seriously, though, how is Caribou Barbie taking responsibility for the executive decisions she's made?

By denying that she lobbied for earmarks?

By denying that she hired a lobbyist to work on getting her earmarks?

By denying that she fired the Alaska Public Safety Commissioner and then changing the story to firing him for incompetence?

By falsely claiming to have fired a chef?

By falsely claiming to have sold a jet on eBay?

By denying that she supported (and appears to still support) the Bridge to Nowhere and then falsely claiming that she herself killed the project (did she field dress it)?

By just claiming to be for reform and claiming to be a "maverick"?

She was and is THE WRONG CHOICE!!!
What executive decisions have John McCain made?  Bush had made plenty of executive decisions as Governor of Texas before he became president.  How much good did that do us?  So I think the point is moot.
BRAVO!
Liberals laughed at Bush when he said he ran a sports team. Said it wasn't relevent. Obama, Biden, and McCain have run exactly nothing in their lives. And please liberals, don't say that Obama ran a successful and expensive campaign. He didn't run day to day operations on how the money was spent. He's just the monkey his managers put up there to read the speaches they wrote for him.
Barack Obama has never made an executive decision in his life.
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I think he's running a hell of a campaign and making some pretty damn good decisions.....so well that McCain has to steal every idea that Obama has.
Carly Fiorina did not successfully run a major corporation.  She was ousted with a $21 million golden parachute, just the big business reforms Palin is vouching to eliminate!
Palin is a Phyllis Schafly in the making.  She is an anti-feminist but thrives off of power and money.  Palin is a scary hypocrite.  She is anti-choice except when it comes to herself and her family.
And cue the wheels falling off the "Straight Talk Express".

Come on Repubicans. Get your story straight. Or are you telling so many lies now that you're getting confused?
Watch out America! The wheels are coming off the "Straight Talk" Express so wildly you better get out of the way!  They just can't even keep the fallacy that somehow Sarah Palin is experienced enough to be VP together any longer.  Its painfully obvious that she isn't and more and more people are realizing it!  Hey Carly, I work with a guy from Egypt-does that make me qualified to be a middle-east expert?  Its makes me more qualified than Sarah Palin is for VP!

The train wreck of a campaign that the McCain folks are running is becoming painful to watch. I just need to look away until the press continues to do its job and vets Palin the way the did Obama...but I can't because every revelation that comes out about her just keeps getting funnier and funnier.

Oh by the way John McCain-I invented the iPhone-so don't try to take credit for THAT!
Obama has recovered in national polls it looks like, but he is slipping in Ohio and New Jersey. Full roundup of the day's polls, here: http://campaigndiaries.com/2008/09/16/poll-watch-obama-recovers-nationally/
By the way, Fiorina lost 25,000 jobs for HP, she was voted out by the board and took $20Mio as compensation.
So these toasters we're going to get. Are they the two slices of bread or the fancy four slices of bread kind?
Well Obama CAN run a multi-million dollar campaign and McCain can't - he went broke last year.

What a train-wreck the McCain Camp is...and I can't seem to look away!
It really doesn't matter what comes from McCain camp. The low functioning voters are stuck on stupid and will continue to vote for Palin and McCain because they dont want to vote for the black guy. Oh well! we see how far American have come as a nation on November 4th. It appears we are still fighting the civil war all over again.
I think Obama has done a terrific job in putting together a terrific campaign team, largely devoid of egos and drama seen in other candidates.  

This is the sign of a great chief executive in my view  
"Carla Fiorina can't run a major cooperation either". Who can ? The CEO of Enron, the CEO of Lehman Brothers, AIG, Fannie May, Freddie MAC, Merrell Lynch.  She's sniffing her own perfume to much.
doh! would you like a glass of water to wash down that foot Ms. Fiorina????

W-T-F !!!!

If she admits Palin COULD NOT run HER company, How the hell could Fiorina stand up there and say she could run the entire F**king country!!!????!!!  

I feel like I am in the TWILIGHT ZONE !!!  because people are falling for this CRAP-OLA (B.S.)

I hope you all are registered and encourage ALL of your friends to register before the Oct. deadline.

If not, we will all get what we deserve...


Carly Fiorina is a crook, and SHE COULDN'T RUN A MAJOR CORPORATION EITHER.

good job with HP Carly!!

haha good one obama camp
 Palin really hasn't run her state long enough to show that she knows what she is doing. She retreats to her own house not unlike George Bush did to his estate in Texas while the country's southern city was being drowned. With a degree in communications after six years in five small collages she seems qualified to host a talk show, not run a country or a company.
Carly...take foot...insert into mouth..repeat...
P.S.  As someone in the silicon valley..you couldn't run a corporation either, but your sure enjoying your golden parachute!
Nether is Carly - per her Board of Directors at HP. I guess it takes one incompetent to know another.
Fiorila is a jerk...she screwed up HP, yet her ego won't allow her to give anyone credit for handling a position that she couldn't handle. look at her resume...she wasn't qualified to run Hp, and she proved it!! Just like Palin would!
Here's what Forbes mag said about Fiorina: "Too many corporations wait too long before firing the boss. Consider Michael Eisner at Disney, Carly Fiorina at HP, Jack Stahl at Revlon and Scott McNealy at Sun. All of these chief executive officers were kept on long past the point when a rational owner of the companies in question would have told them to leave."  
And so it is with the antiregulation Rebubbalican heirs of Bush, Bush, Reagan...  Too bad we couldn't get them to leave sooner...
Anyone notice how often Fiorina and McCain blink when they are talkin...er...lying?  

Fiorina had me in stitches when she claimed none of the candidates could do what she couldn't do either--run a major company--yet her choice is best equipped to lead the country.

Once the media's crush on Palin dies out soon, it will be over for the man who openly admitted only falling in love with his country while spending five years at the Hanoi Hilton.
And how many jobs are being lost at HP? McCain groupies will say anything! She better go back and do her homework on Obama's work in the Senate.
I bet she has a Sarah Palin doll in her desk drawer!
Carly Fiorina is a joke. Why is it that all these repugnut losers end up in repugnut campaigns? Don't they have REAL JOBS?
Palin, mayor of podunk, govenor of a state with the highest percentages of rape and incest, loaded with hunters, and kids who rarely graduate from high school, let alone, attend college, is a vp candiate???

Just goes to show you, that repugnuts will put anyone, on a ticket, whether qualified or not, and sing their praises! We have truly been dumbed down by these last 7 1/2 years.

MAY GOD HELP US ALL!!!


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