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McCain's new support for auto loans?

Posted: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 7:23 PM by Mark Murray

From NBC/NJ's Adam Aigner-Treworgy
GRAND RAPIDS, Mich. -- The McCain campaign held a conference call this afternoon with two Republican members of Congress from this battleground state, both of whom commended the GOP nominee for his statement this morning -- which they asserted was an announcement of support for $25 billion in government loans to the auto industry.

While visiting a GM plant in Orion this morning, McCain pledged his support for the auto industry, including the need for new innovation in automobile design and loans for new factories.

“I’m here to send a message to Washington and to Wall Street,” McCain said. “We’re not going to leave the workers here in Michigan hung out to dry while we give billions in taxpayers’ dollars to Wall Street. We’re going to take care of the workers. The workers, they’re the ones that deserve our help. It’s time to get our auto industry back on its feet. And it’s time for a new generation of cars and for loans to build the facilities to make them.”

But McCain had previously expressed skepticism about the necessity for the current automotive industry loan proposal circulating in Congress when he was asked about it at his last press conference with national media on August 13 in Birmingham, MI.

“I worry a little bit about us predicting failure on the part of the auto makers when they are striving mightily,” McCain said then, adding later that “at the moment for us to somehow predict doom of auto industry in America, certainly the Big Three, I think is frankly not timely at this time, and I don’t want it to be a self-fulfilling promise.”

Although he did not specifically express his support for the loan proposal while in Orion this morning, GOP Reps. Candice Miller and Pete Hoekstra both voiced their optimism that McCain’s strong language would lead to his support.

“The comments that Sen. McCain made today, I think, have been his strongest statement to date,” Miller said. During a time when many Republican elected officials remain undecided on the issue of loans to the auto industry, “his statement was absolutely critical,” Miller said, adding: “It solidifies what we have all been saying as members of the delegation, as well as what the CEOs have been saying … and it really is pivotal in making a reality these $25 billion in auto loans, which we absolutely must do to save the auto industry.”

But the Obama campaign pounced on what it saw as McCain's new-found support for the loans. "When you take a look under the hood of the 'All Talk Express' you get a pretty good idea of how much a McCain presidency would cost Michigan,” said Obama spokesman Brent Colburn. “John McCain voted against the retooling loans for our automakers, against tax incentives for hybrid vehicles, and with George Bush 90% of the time while we lost jobs and our economy suffered... Saying one thing and doing another might make sense after 26 years in Washington, but in Michigan actions speak louder than words, and based on his record, we simply can't afford John McCain."

When asked on the conference call by Gordon Trowbridge of the Detroit News (who also asked McCain about this issue last month) whether Hoekstra or Miller felt that the Obama campaign was correct in calling McCain a latecomer to this issue, both seemed to avoid directly answering the question.

“I want to be very careful because we are trying to approach this in a bipartisan way. And I don’t think it’s helpful for the Obama campaign to be making those kinds of comments when we are literally right on the tip of making this thing, of making sure that it actually becomes a reality,” Miller said.

“We’ve tried to do everything that we can as a delegation to not make this a partisan issue,” Hoekstra said, agreeing with his colleague. “If it’s gets to be a partisan issue, there is no way that it will get done in the next week and half, and it’s too important to this state for this to get boiled down into presidential politics. Sen. McCain made a clear statement, not a partisan statement that he’s in favor of this.”

Yet even in his statement -- which is arguably “clear” in its support for the proposed auto loans -- McCain was certainly NOT non-partisan. After announcing his support for “loans” for auto companies to build new factories, McCain quickly launched into an attack on his opponent.

“We’re gonna fight the greed and irresponsibility on Wall Street, and we’re gonna create prosperity for our people. And now’s the time to grow the economy and my plan does that. Sen. Obama’s does not,” McCain said. “He has said in recent days that he may delay his economic plan because of the adverse impact of his tax increase. Even Sen. Obama admits that the agenda he’s been pushing would hurt our economy, not help it. That’s exactly the wrong approach. I’m going to create jobs and get our economy back on its feet.”

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"The McCain campaign held a conference call this afternoon with two Republican members of Congress from this battleground state, both of whom commended the GOP nominee for his statement this morning -- which they asserted was an announcement of support for $25 billion in government loans to the auto industry."

You mean BRIBES Senator McCain. It is called BRIBES!
Keith Olbermann must be beside himself. He has so much material for his Special Comments that he can't know where to begin.

Now it's McCain's newest flip-flop on the auto industry. Hey Keith, hire more staff. We need your Special Comments every night from now until 11/4.
That is what is commonly known as PANDERING and is a FLIP-FLOP.  

How does the GOP and the screaming howler monkey right wing media actually DEFEND this stuff?

Conservatism, thy name is FAILURE
Same as DHL get jobs send them over seas.
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GOOD JOB McCAIN/PALIN!!!!!
Americans know who the BEST QUALIFIED TEAM is to lead our country.
Obama is a Radical FRAUD - he will  never be elected.

Andy, BTW:
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Push polls are wrong and will soon be gone cause…

With Mccain/Palin, The Worst Is Yet to Come and you get what you got, literally.
Enough
Enough glossing over!
No way!
No how!
No McCain/Palin!
Nobody but Obama/Biden                

Ain’t no money ‘cause it’s gone
We know, We know, We know, We know,
McCain/ Palin/ Bush/ Cheney have withdrawn
Ain’t no money ‘cause it’s gone
Ain’t no brightness any day
When McCain has their way
The nation will shine everyday
When folks send McCain away

McCain folks will stop your Purging, Caging,
Our savings accounts, CD's shares, and 401(k)'s
McCain, Regulate before it’s too late
We know, We know, We know, We know
You can only deregulate
For you there’s no other way
Cause deregulate is your old cliché
McCain take your Golden Parachutes and fly away
You have no populist communiqué
We know,  We know, We know, We know,
McCain thinks he’s now Populist dear
But McCain ain’t no where near cause…


Push polls are wrong and will soon be gone cause…


Bet his wife was there with him, it seems that he
can't do a campaign event with out her.
maybe it's a trust issues, or she Carry's the meds,
and the defibrillator.  
Back during the Primary, Mccain told Michagander's " Those Job's are Gone & are Not coming back".

The Biggest Flip-Flopper Ever on any & everything out there is John Mccain ! Bar None !

It is an easy concept to figure out.  When you tax the rich, they just eliminate jobs (the poor). Economics 101 lesson for the day.  Tune in for more...
Christie, Hartwell,GA (Sent Wednesday, September 17, 2008 10:55 AM

Keep eating them Mushroom's in georgia, your comment is Hilarious.Bush's (and Mccains) tax cuts went to the Rich. Now we have Unemployment nearing 6%, over 600,000 jobs lost this year alone, while companies who enjoyed those Same tax breaks are shipping jobs overseas.

But hey, whatever seem's to numb your mind in Georgia, 'tax the rich & lose your jobs". lolololololololololololololololololololololololololol

They've brought No new jobs with their tax break's, but now all of a sudden if we give them more break's, they're gonna bring some job's.

Again Dizty: if it numb's your mind, then think what you want. The rest of us don't reside in LaLaLand.

We can't stand 4 more year's of the last 8 year's !

America was warned back during the 2000 election that George Bush had Destroyed everything(Business) he had touched. You didn't listen, now we're all paying for the Ignorance of these Terrorist without a Gun religous right fanatic's.

May the skies Open up & take you home today.

The rest of us live in the Real World.

Good bye & good Ridance to the religous right( American terrorist without a Gun)
He is going to get us back on our feet with more debt?  McCain did you take Economics 101 or did you go straight from the battle field into politics and never take a class in the 26 years of being in the senate?

Defecit spending will actually hurt the economy in the long run and at almost 10 trillion how much further can we go?

Paying the national debt down would make the US dollar more valuable and put more money in the US residents pocket then the continued loans that increase our debt.

Obama has it right and if McCain could stay in one corner on a topic for more then a day then flip flop perhaps he would show some credibility.  

All McCain is good at is throwing mud and when mud gets thrown back he wants to cry home to his mommy.
Flip-flop McCain a new position every hour.
Where was McCain for 25years when he should have done something....I was against it now I'm for it - boy talk about waffles...Senator McCain doesn't get it...never will. He was the one who actually got to de-regulate everything on wall street - he started the ball rolling to the mess we are in now and he doesn't want to take credit?? Obama is right...McCain is "All Talk Express"...I do ANYTHING and SAY ANYTHING to get elected..Hey Senator McCain - Mr. Maverick - take credit for what is happening on Wall Street...own up to it!!
“I want to be very careful because we are trying to approach this in a bipartisan way. And I don’t think it’s helpful for the Obama campaign to be making those kinds of comments when we are literally right on the tip of making this thing, of making sure that it actually becomes a reality,” Miller said.

After hearing John McCain talk about the economy this week, I don't have enough bread crumbs to find my way home. And that's a little straight talk for ya.
McCain used to identify himself as the deregulator and see what his party has brought the American people, it would be McSame, bush third term
John McBush is a LIAR.

He is talking out of his ass.

Why does he think anyone will believe a word that he says???

Flip Flopper LIAR.
JOHN MCCAIN MR. DEREGULATION!!

YOU CANT' RUN AND YOU CAN'T HIDE.  YOU VOTED FOR EVERY BILL THAT GAVE WALLSTREET A LICENSE TO CRASH.

YOU AND PHIL GRAMM WHO PUSHED THROUGH THE DEREGULATION LAW THAT SAID, "  REMOVE ALL CONTROLS, NO OVERSIGHT, GOVERMENT OUT!

NOW AFTER THESE CROOKS HAVE CRASHED WALLSTREET, DRAINED THE ECONOMY, THREATENED OUR PENSIONS, 401K'S OUR SAVINGS AND ABILITY TO LIVE

JOHN MCCAIN COMES HAT IN HAND AND SAYS THE CROOKS MESSED UP?

GIVE ME A BREAK! MC CAIN AND THE REPUBLICANS ARE THE BACKERS OF DEREGULATION, LET THE MARKET MANAGE ITSELF

LOOK WHAT THAT GOT US AND WE HAVE THREATENED THE WORLD MARKETS AS WELL.

MCCAIN, GRAMM, THE ADMINISTRATION AND THE REPUBLICANS HAVE DRIVEN OUR COUNTRY TO THE BRINK OF "BROKE"

THEY HAVE DONE WHAT NO OTHER ADMINISTRATION HAS BEEN ABLE TO DO.

SO IF MICHIGAN AND OHIO TRUST THESE FOLKS THEY DESERVE JUST WHAT THEY GET.
McCain has lost his bearings!!!
Sounds like another flip flop by McCain to appease the current situation...very, very, sad.

Thank goodness my Mcblackberry still works.
OBAMA/BIDEN 08!
It's about time people start thinking about who is the better candidate. Too bad it took the stock market crashing for most of America to come around. Enough with the lipstick and the dipstick!

Go Obama! We need you for America.
L.T. Redwood City, California (Sent Wednesday, September 17, 2008 6:24 PM)

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"The lipstick and the dipstick"?

ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!

L.T., I applaud you and tip my cap to you!
http://twocanpete.blogspot.com/
The ole straight talker is at again. First he tells the autoworkers that the jobs are never coming back. Now he tells the idiots that ran the auto companies into the ground that the employees they screwed will be happy to give them all the monehy they need. Too bad that John doesn't understand that the rest of us are not married to money-trees.
I don't understand why a problem with the economy is specifically bad for McCain.  McCain and Obama are in the US Senate.  If anything I'd figure a problem today would be more of an issue for Obama, the Democrats have held the majority in the Senate for the last two years.  I don't think a doom and gloom message from Obama is all that helpful, that only inspires more panic in the market.  We have a number of problems at the moment, but the dollar is growing in strength, and the price of oil is dropping, both are good things for the economy.  If the housing market levels off things should improve.
Where is our president during this financial crisis.  The American people have just lost more than 1 trillion dollars in the past three days.  That's as much as we have spent on the entire Iraq war.  Shouldn't our president be operating under crisis mode or is this going to be another Katrina moment?
Pander much, Sen. McCain?
Mr. Anything BUT Straight Talk Express doesn't know what he says from one day to another. I guess he needs to learn to read from the teleprompter like Palin does so he can read the script right from day to day. The fact that he lies about everything just cements my vote for Obama/Biden!
After years of both the US auto companies along the UAW screaming that the didn't want the government forcing them to sell products they say the american consumer didn't want, I'm saddened by the willingness of the government rescue these groups when the american consumer decides that it doesn't want the vehicles that they wanted to make.
We know, We know, We know, We know
You can say only cars today
For you there’s no other way
Cause no unions is your old cliché
McCain take your Golden Parachutes and fly away
You have no populist communiqué
We know, We know, We know, We know,
McCain thinks he’s now Populist dear
But McCain ain’t no where near cause…
Push polls are wrong
McCain will soon be a gone


With Mccain/Palin, The Worst Is Yet to Come and you get what you got, literally.
Enough
Enough glossing over!
No way!
No how!
No McCain/Palin!
Nobody but Obama/Biden


25 billion - you have got to be kidding.  I think something should be done to assist, but these CEO's of the auto companies must live in a room with no windows.  How can these so called captains of industry not have had the forsight to see an energy crisis that would force consumers to drop their SUVs for for gas efficient automobiles.  Loans should only go for those companies who agree to re-tool their line.
yeah and Obama was for gun control before he was against it, and agains fisa before he was for it and  for partial birth abortion before he was against,and against earmarks after he asked for millions , and for wright before hewas againsthimWhew I am running out of room and steam But I am sure you get my point. Oh by the way what was yours
I saw John McCain on Hardball, he was reading from his 5by3 cards,coulda been a robot for all the emotion I saw. Guess your not feeling the workers pain huh John.
Were you a regulator before you were a de-regulator?
How did we get into this mess?
No oversight by the Bush republicans?
Didn't you vote with Bush 90% of the time?
No time like now to get on the regulation bandwagon,to bad your record in the senate shows you as supporting minimal regulation. Just let the good old boys play loose with this freedom, no worry to them ultimately the taxpayer will be on the hook.
When our leaders drop the ball we get stuck with the bill. We have one option though we can vote them out when their term is up, thats just what I intend to do! VOTE OBAMA!!!
And as he left the stage, he was met with the chants of Obama 08, Obama 08...  

Why don't you document that?  This race is OVER for anyone with an ounce of intelligence in their brain.
McCain has no plans for helping the auto industry and he could care less.  Dont be fooled...Michigan..
This man disgusts me. It's obvious what he's doing.
So...Obama will need to say we need to create jobs in Michigan that help us wean ourselves from oil addiction. Enough!

Obama/Biden
McCain's understanding of economics and fiscal policy is obviously very basic. He seems to flounder around and lurch from one position to another. Deregulate! - no! regulate! - no bail outs! - OK, bailouts!
John McCain is old and tired and confused.
the only help he will give is maybe some un=employment, funny that all of a sudden he now wants to help the ones that he helped lose their jobs, way to go McPain, which face will we see tomorrow
Michigan beware! If McCain is for it and says he can "fix it" can only mean one thing...whatever is left of the auto industry will be heading overseas once he gets your vote!!!
Just a thought I would like to share -

Does anyone out there think that all these companies are failing now because Bush is leaving soon?  

Would they risk the chance of not being bailed out by a different president?  I don't think so.  Does anyone else think the timing so close to the election is suspect?

OK, I'm no economic scholar, but I was wondering...
Good Obama. As Chris Matthews said today, it is astonishing that McCain is runnung from his own party and pretending he is for regulation of the markets. McCain cannot run from his record. His statements don't match his record which is fact. Keep pounding Obama and call out McCain on his lies.
Now I've heard it all. If I don't vote for Obama, I've been told by the liberals that I'm stupid, naive, dense, and now the latest, a racist. Might as well put me down for being spiteful too, because this Democrat is voting for McCain.


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