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First thoughts: Back to August?

Posted: Thursday, September 18, 2008 9:26 AM by Domenico Montanaro
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From Chuck Todd, Mark Murray, Domenico Montanaro, and Carrie Dann
*** We’re back to August? This presidential contest has certainly been a roller-coaster ride. And as we suggested yesterday, something in the race turned this week. Two new national polls now show Obama with single-digit leads over McCain -- about where the race was before the conventions. The reason why Obama’s up: women. According to the latest New York Times/CBS survey, Obama is ahead overall by five points (48%-43%); a week ago after the GOP convention, CBS had McCain up two points overall (46%-44%) and five points among women (47%-42%). But in the latest poll, Obama once again has the advantage with female voters (54%-38%). The same holds true in a new national Quinnipiac survey, which finds Obama with a four-point lead over McCain (49%-45%) and a 14-point edge among women (54%-40%). Every poll out this week -- whether by a good pollster or a mediocre one -- has shown the same trend: movement towards Obama. It's hard to ignore and one can sense the conventional wisdom shifting again. We have literally lived the adage this week: seven days is a lifetime in politics. If we really back to the pre-convention numbers, this is not a good development for McCain going into the debates. He needed the tie to hold until the debates. The last thing he needs is for the debates to be another moment where he has to catch up rather than solidify his lead. Because after the debates, there really are no more chances to move the race.

Video: NBC Political Director Chuck Todd talks about how drastically the country's financial situation has altered the campaign in the last seven days.

*** Update on the “Palin Effect”: Has Palin’s luster worn off? Has the bubble popped? The New York Times on its survey: “The poll also underlined the extent to which Mr. McCain’s convention, and his selection of Ms. Palin, had excited Republican base voters about his candidacy, which is no small thing in a contest that continues to be so tight: 47 percent of Mr. McCain’s supporters described themselves as enthused about the Republican Party’s presidential ticket, almost twice what it was before the conventions… But the Times/CBS News poll suggested that Ms. Palin’s selection has, to date, helped Mr. McCain only among Republican base voters; there was no evidence of significantly increased support for him among women in general. White women were evenly divided between Mr. McCain and Mr. Obama; before the conventions, Mr. McCain led Mr. Obama among white women, 44 percent to 37 percent. By contrast, at this point in the 2004 campaign, President Bush was leading Senator John Kerry of Massachusetts, the Democratic challenger, by 56 percent to 37 percent among white women.” And don’t miss Karl Rove calling her a “political pick.” 

Video: Hackers have broken into Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin’s personal e-mail account. NBC’s Kelly O’Donnell reports.

*** Fools rush in: Over the past week, independent analysts and news organizations have criticized -- deservedly so -- the falsehoods and misleading statements from McCain’s TV ads and remarks on the stump. But now the Obama campaign has unveiled a whopper of its own by comparing McCain to Rush Limbaugh in a new Spanish-language ad on immigration. "They want us to forget the insults we've put up with, the intolerance," the ad’s announcer says, per the Washington Post. Then a picture of Limbaugh appears onscreen with quotes of him saying, "Mexicans are stupid and unqualified" and "Shut your mouth or get out." The narrator continues, "John McCain and his Republican friends have two faces. One that says lies just to get our vote and another, even worse, that continues the failed policies of George Bush that put special interests ahead of working families." The big problem with this ad: McCain and Limbaugh don’t agree on the issue of comprehensive immigration reform. It’s a pretty low blow, particularly since McCain did see his campaign nearly die because of his support for immigration and the attacks he was receiving on the right from Limbaugh and other talk radio conservatives. Then again, the McCain camp and RNC are airing radio ads blaming Obama for scuttling comprehensive immigration reform because he backed “poison pill” amendments. But that’s not true, either: The GOP base killed immigration reform, not some amendments that immigration advocates also supported.

*** The new Mr. Negative: But -- in a bit of a CW shocker -- it’s certainly true that Obama has gone negative more than McCain since the GOP convention, according to the Wisconsin Advertising Project: 77% of Obama’s commercials were negative, compared with 56% of McCain’s. After McCain’s poll numbers shot up after the GOP convention, the Obama campaign and the DNC fired the heavy artillery at McCain. These percentages are the result of that. And perhaps so is the new state of this race. Could it be that negative ads work? 

*** Just wonderin’: Where has Congress been during the financial mess on Wall Street? Bush, too? Everything, it seems, is being left to a former Goldman Sachs guy, Hank Paulson, as well as Fed chairman Ben Bernanke. Congress has literally been on the sidelines, despite the fact that it’s in session.

*** Stat of the day: 500,000 new voters have registered in Indiana since the beginning of the year?!?! That is amazing and explains why McCain can't get the state off the battleground map.

*** On the trail: McCain and Palin campaign together in Cedar Rapids, IA (around noon ET) and then in Green Bay, WI (around 8:00 pm ET). Obama stumps in New Mexico, hitting Española and Albuquerque. Biden remains in Ohio, visiting Canton (at the Pro Football Hall of Fame!), Akron, and Youngstown. And Michelle Obama, in North Carolina, attends a women’s economic roundtable in Charlotte and then a “Women for Obama” rally in Greensboro.

Countdown to the first presidential debate: 8 days
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Countdown to the second presidential debate 19 days
Countdown to the third presidential debate: 27 days
Countdown to Election Day 2008: 47 days
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Sudden thoughts and second thoughts

Yesterday I thought I successfully submitted a post that declared the Obama WH run dead.  I guess divine intervention kept it from posting.  Now today, we see Obama back on top in nearly all polls.  I can only wonder if somehow the ‘big guy’ was trying to tell me something.  I will keep the faith.

It seems like Obama, Clinton and McCain have already been President for nearly 2 years.  Does W still exist?  I feel the country might be dead tired of the next president even before he takes the oath of office.

I was hoping to demoralize the Republicans with sweeping victories in November.  I didn’t realize that Republican policies would demoralize the economy so strongly first.  It seems pretty clear to me that nothing is more important to our national security than a strong economy.  Dealing with trouble overseas, terrorism, Iraq/Iran seems less important if we are in a depression.

There is something delicious about the cold revenge being exacted upon Sarah Palin.  I think she was pushed onto us too fast and too hard.  Still, I love seeing her go down in flames.

I think Obama’s ‘staff meeting’ line against McCain is one of the best I have ever heard.  I hope it gets a lot of play.  But I am sure FR and Chuck Todd will make the new Obama hard hitting campaign a negative spin against Obama.
I see that Cindy McCain was sporting a $300,000 outfit when she spoke at the Republican convention.  Sheesh.  That’s about as much as a lot of those mortgages that ordinary people can’t pay any more.  Small wonder John can’t keep track of how many houses they own.  But John feels your pain, though.  Really.  He’s an experienced outsider maverick reforming change agent type guy.  Did I mention that he’s a maverick?  

No, I’m sorry John.  You can’t help engineer this economic train wreck, sneak off into the weeds to change uniforms, and then return to the scene as the new regulator in town.  You made a career out of helping your fat cat buddies loosen up the rules so they could make piles of money while taxpayers provide the safety net.  Republicans always want to privatize the gain while socializing the risk and this is just the latest in a long string.  Oh, John is experienced alright.  

John was also way out in front of the neocon pack pushing for the Iraq War, and then when his rosy predictions turned to manure he sneaks off and returns as experienced surge guy.  Hey, it’s not his fault.  They just didn’t do it right.  He keeps talking about winning and victory.  Tell me John, after all the horror and expense and lost opportunity, what exactly are we winning?  What’s our big prize for following you into this wonderful Mesopotamian adventure?  You owe the American people much more than the vague and empty sloganeering you’ve been mouthing on the campaign trail, and we owe our country a much more capable leader.
Scenario What if..

John McCain and Sarah Palin win the election in the fall..

Immediately after John and Sarah are sworn in , Sara declares John McCain
has a  career shortening  case of dementia. Medical doctors agree and
she's made President on Jan. 21, 2009..
She puts all the Blue States and Red States up for sell on Ebay because they are
too expensive to support..a broker has to be called in and they're sold at a tremendous loss.

Mexico buys all the Blue State thru a Broker, James Carville and Assoc. Inc. and Canada buys all the Red States thru Carly Fiorina's Clientèle Internationale LLC Brokers.

Alaska secedes from the Union and Sarah moves under “The Reformers Movement Act” all of Washington D.C. to Juneau, Alaska in three months.
First order of business in Sarahington D. P. (new name District of Palin) is to build a 90 ft. fence on the border of Alaska and Canada...to keep the riff-raff out...(really keep the pure people in)..
All moose and caribou are hunted to extinction within weeks.
All salmon fishing is given exclusive rights to one company.
God is made to preach in all schools.
Bulldogs become the only dog allowed to breed in The United State of Alaska.
All men must wear lipstick on Anti-Gay Day..
Tanning booths and beds are proven to destroy CO2 and stop global warming if left on 24/7.
Firing people you don't like becomes sound practices of all Fortune 500 Companies.
After 2 years  the lower 48 states, The United States of Canico (Mexico and Canada combined) under President Barack Obama go thru the biggest expansion in economic history.
President Palin embargoes all oil and natural gas to Canico hoping to bring that young country to it's knees. A major explosion happens at the largest natural gas and oil reserves in Alaska  fracturing the fault lines splitting Alaska in two pushing the  planet off it's tilt angle of rotation. Another “Ice Age” begins ..
Morale of this story...If you have a lot of gas be very careful and don't blow it our way Alaska..


We need Obama/Biden even more now...
Thanks Keith, you did a wonderful job on the "forclosure" issue.
McCain can not run on his record, so he chooses to run against it.

McCain is the definition of fraud.
500,000 new voters have registered in Indiana since the beginning of the year?!?! That is amazing and explains why McCain can't get the state off the battleground map.
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I think that we're going to see numbers like this all around the country... and these numbers do not favor McCain, or ANY Republican on ANY ticket.  I think that we are going to witness a tidal wave twice as big as 2006.  Whether or not that is a good thing remains to be seen...

http://thepajamapundit.com/
I hate negative ads with a passion but once unleashed, there's no putting negativity back in the bottle.

We know who started the negativity first and we WILL fight back.  I have no illusions about that and no regrets about it either.

I would have preferred a positive campaign by both candidates ON THE ISSUES.  However, I see no reason to go down on McCain's negative ship.
http://twocanpete.blogspot.com/
The Palin Effect really wear off once she's being indicted back home. For all the troopergate news stop by the blog.
ABC news Slams McCain's Deregulation Flip Flop!! by
McCain Financial Crisis Flip Flops - ABC News on
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWI35eNnDOw&eurl

Sarah Palin Is A liar
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qY1KHVNvfs&eurl

NBC's Savannah Guthrie Grows a Pair:
Sarah Palin Is A liar. A Vid You Won't Believe
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/9/17/19441/6749/957/602142
I'll never forget that.."What policy is that Charlie?"

What moron is she Charlie?
The Palin effect hasn't worn off - its been overcome by events. No, not the economy.

Did anyone else notice that soft but unmistakable thud coming from the general direction of the Northwest?

Palin was interesting when she seemed different, or at least unknown. But in the last 48 hours or so, during which time the McCain campaign announced she wasn’t going to cooperate with the Alaska investigation on grounds that it had become politicized, she no longer seems that different or unfamiliar.

We all know how this thing up in Alaska will play out now. It will be a stupid battle of will power and lawyers, with one side not wanting to provide information to the other, all the while surrogates will provide somewhat credible yet simultaneous talking points of why she both should and shouldn’t cooperate.

We’ll most likely never get to the bottom of the so-called Troopergate, but that’s a side issue. The rhetorical battles that will be waged just aren’t very different from what we’ve seen for the last few years, and as a result Palin is just no longer very interesting.
Can you all take a look at explaining the unbelievably similar issues here with the keating 5 questions.

Why are you all avoiding that.

the same issues with deregulation with johhn mccain's support and questions of his involvement with the lobbyists "who worked the regulators" like Mccain is working the press now...as he hires those same deregulation lobbyists to write his economic policy...

seems like a GIANY elephant in the room.
We are all optimistic every April, just like we were when we were kids. It is a new season, and anything is possible when it comes to your favorite team. But as we all know from experience, it is a long long season. And that reality hits us somewhere around July/August – and we are reminded once again that this is in fact not a sprint, it is a marathon. The manager may realize this, but we the fans are not very patient. We know everything, and we demand changes, big changes, when things start to slip.

Barack Obama held a steady lead for most of the season. Then out of nowhere, John McCain got hot, and went on what seemed to be a 10 game winning streak, while the Democrat faltered. And we all in the stands went crazy, tearing our hair out, seeing what was sure to be an insurmountable lead, dissipate.  We were all angry, depressed. But the wear and tear started to show in the McCain camp, and Barack Obama very slowly & quietly made his way back, picking up ground where ever he went. And now he is back, in first place. Whether he can hold his lead will depend on the head to head match ups with McCain.

The last games of the 2008 Fall Classic.

If he wins those, Barack Obama, the Democratic Senator from Illinois, will win the World Series. Imagine that. {smile}

Sometimes we really don’t know everything. We just think we do. That’s why we’re the fans, and they’re the professionals, who go out and bust their backsides every single day, just trying to hold on and win it all, one game (state) at a time.

To CA, Tuscaloosa, AL: we’re almost there pal. Keeping my fingers crossed.

Newshole buddies: if you’re out there, come back here for the final 30 days.
the palin bump is now beginning to be the palin dump as Americans get to know the real palin and it is only going to go down from here.
Tight jaw'd Charlie? from Alaska...
lipstick from the sticks...
McCain shoots republican party in the balls..
Sounds like a "Maverick" to me ..Are you fooled?
First Thoughts...

"The new Mr. Negative: But -- in a bit of a CW shocker -- it’s certainly true that Obama has gone negative more than McCain since the GOP convention, according to the Wisconsin Advertising Project: 77% of Obama’s commercials were negative, compared with 56% of McCain’s. After McCain’s poll numbers shot up after the GOP convention, the Obama campaign and the DNC fired the heavy artillery at McCain. These percentages are the result of that. And perhaps so is the new state of this race. Could it be that negative ads work?"

If pointing out flaws in your opponents' records is a negative then, oh well.  How much of that 56% was Uncle Fluffy making stuff up...100%?

"Just wonderin’: Where has Congress been during the financial mess on Wall Street? Bush, too? Everything, it seems, is being left to a former Goldman Sachs guy, Hank Paulson, as well as Fed chairman Ben Bernanke. Congress has literally been on the sidelines, despite the fact that it’s in session."

Did anyone else catch Hardball last night when Matthews went after Rep. Eric Cantor about Bush being in hiding and the Republicants running away from their record?  Talk about "deer-in-headlights"!

(Don't tell Caribou Barbie about that last line...she might try to shoot Cantor!)
Only proves one point, any moron can run Alaska State Government
WOMEN.......UNITE FOR OBAMA!

McCain and Palin have nothing to offer.....use your heads.....listen to the phony rhetoric & lies coming out of the two of them.   'Say anything, do anything' to win.   Just because Palin wears a skirt & is a "mom" doesn't mean she supports women's issues --- JUST THE OPPOSITE!

Obama & Biden care about YOU!  

VOTE...express your displeasure for the Republicans.

OBAMA/BIDEN '08
picture of Limbaugh appears onscreen with quotes of him saying, "Mexicans are stupid and unqualified" and "Shut your mouth or get out."
not to mention those two quotes were taken tottaly out of contex.

but hey when the "Punished by a baby and 57 states quotes start showing up dont complain
== Over the past week, independent analysts and news organizations have criticized -- deservedly so -- the falsehoods and misleading statements from McCain’s TV ads and remarks on the stump. ===

Independent? Who? CBS, ABC? NBC, CNN? NY Times, LA Times, Washington Post? They're not 'independent'. They're the core media wing of the Democratic party.

OBAMA'S NEW SOCIAL SECURITY AD!, Updated with Transcript by nicweb
Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 04:08:45 PM PDT
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/9/17/1960/90849/980/602103

McCain the Straight Talk Express Re-Writes History on Social Security.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/6/12/204230/248/931/535022

Campaign-ending McCain Quote: Social Security is a Disgrace
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/7/9/95253/65107/523/548667

The polls are all over the place. All I know is that the Obama campaign is working very hard and "leaving it all on the field"--he's working hard, and many of us are working hard.

The media should be reporting on the cover-ups going on in Alaska. Man, what is it with Republicans and subpoenas? Palin's Alaskan administration is terribly, terribly similar to a chump-change but still lawless Cheney/Libby/Gonzales administration. What ever happened to the Rule of Law?? The republicans were so upset about that with Clinton's testimony and now the McCain lawyers are shutting down justice in Alaska.

The guy who was fired wasn't the alleged bully brother-in-law. He was a law-abiding guy who apparently was very aware of the laws governing personnel and human resources issues. He lost his job, he lost his livlihood. Please media, cover this!
You spoke of % of negative to positive ads. Could you give us % of truth to lies?
Clearly, if Obama stays positive, MSM will call him out for being weak. If Obama joins the fight then MSM calls him a hypocrite.
As a contributing Obama supporter I demand victory.
If MSM calls shining a light on the disgusting pile that is the GOP negative then YEA negative!
Join the fight Obama. We can't change the old ways until we defeat the old boys.
GEORGE BUSH'S ECONOMIC POLICY : DIG A LARGE HOLE IN YOUR BACK YARD AND PUT YOUR "PENNY" BANK INTO IT OR BUY A "CHEAP" MATRESS AND STUFF IT WITH DOLLAR BILLS, IT WILL ALL WORK OUT.JUST LOOK AROUND YOU THERE ARE POP BOTTLES WAITING TO BE RETURNED EVERYWHERE.
Hey Rush Limbaugh is nothing but the water carrier of the repugnant ones and comparing "Bush Hugger" McCain to him is fair game regardless of what Lush may have said about him.  I say good ad Obama!  I say great negative ads, time to fight fire with fire and show the repugnant ones they aren't the only ones who can play that dirty game.

Now that the lipstick has worn off "Piggy" Palin it's about time for the media to expose her wicked ways.  We need to find out more about Troopergate before November 4th.

Why did the Dumb and Dumber ticket hire away one of the top prosecutors of terrorists to now defend a terrorist from Alaska?  She has to hide 1,100 incriminating e-mails from us because she and her aged clueless running mate know she has a legal problem that will sink her candidacy in shame!

Only Obama/Biden will bring honesty and integrity back to the White House!

Go Obma/Biden 08/12!
Barack Obama may lead by single digits in some national polls, but Zogby's state polls are bad news for the anointed one:  McCain is ahead in Pennsylvania, Virginia, Ohio, Indiana, Colorado, and Nevada.

Kiss it goodbye, Barry.
There are closer to 700,000 new voters in Indiana, but to stay on the conservative side, at lease 500,000.
What has been amazing to me is that it took an economic meltdown for the campaigns and the MEDIA to focus on real issues.  The economic woos will remain long past November 4, so maybe we can stay on issues and not Britney or lipstick.

A straight forward observation is the number of times McCain has flip-flopped on economic issues. For deregulation, now for regulation: Economy is fundamentally strong vs economic crisis: Against bailing out AIG, now for bailing out AIG. Against helping auto industry now for helping auto industry.
There are only 3 possible reasons for the flip-flops:
1) He told the truth when he said he did not understand the economy. 2) He will say whatever it takes to get elected. Just go with the wind theory, or 3)He can not remember what he said earlier and dementia continues to set present itself.

Speakking of dementia, last night McCain held an interview with a Spanish newspaper, (You know, Spain) Evidently McCain did not know the Prime Minister of Spain's name (Zapatero) and answered questions as if he were talking to someone in Latin America.  Questions were clarified 3 times, like...Spain...Europe, but McCain was very confused.

For all those out there who put America First, you cannot put McCain/Palin's campain first. Things are happening too fast for John to keep up. We need a clear headed leader.
The thing is, clarification is needed between truthful negative ads and lying negative ads.

Who can really fault Obama for pointing out how McCain's "fundamental" dictum shows a staggering lack of vision?

And by the same token, who could absolve McCain for his reprehensible sex-ed ad?

It's not a black and white issue.

Furthermore, regarding immigration policy, McCain would CERTAINLY have a leg to stand on if he would have stuck to his immigration reforms.  Instead of backing his own policy, he caved to the Limbaugh Intolerant Elitist Society (LIES).  He really doesn't deserve any slack on that front any more, and to cast him as the victim is misleading, First Read.
Breaking: McCain causes diplomatic incident, American press not reporting yet? by Political Truth Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 08:32:26 PM PDT
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/9/17/233047/795/762/602329

A Seriously Dangerous Person to Put In Charge by archibaldtuttle Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 08:25:50 PM PDT
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/9/17/23206/7962/755/602320
Gosh, you mean some intellectually challenged, bible thunping moose eating barbie doll only has appeal to the stepford sisters in the Republican Party? imagine that...
Pelosi said No Way, No How, are the Democrats to blame for anything. This "No Way, No How" jingoism seems to be getting a little out of hand.
so the convention bounces evened out.  now it is all about the debates, and what happens there should determine the outcome of this election.

looking forward to the debate days, and this horse race coming to a close.

http://horneddevil.proboards98.com/index.cgi?board=iduspolitics
Back to August? Heck, the Palin-Mccain ticket want to take us back to August of 1955. The time when women and minorities knew their place in society.
[[Where has Congress been during the financial mess on Wall Street? ]]

Nancy Pelosi, showing her leadership skills, said that the Democrats are responsibile for nothing. Thanks Nancy, now we know who to trun to when we need a leader. I guess that would be the Republicans.
Dear President Bush : What failing Corporation, that was not regulated by your administration can we buy today ? I'll kick in my last 2 cents.
"The new Mr. Negative:"
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

"Negative" ads aren't the problem. UNTRUTHFUL ads are the problem, and this is all the McCain campaign has been putting out for the last 2 months. As for Obama's latest Spanish ad - that's kinda disappointing. I'd rather he just let McCain be the liar. But it's also probably not going to matter anyway, because Obama already enjoys a huge lead with that demographic.
Considering the GOP Convention was 80% an Obama bash-fest with 19% rhetoric and 1% actual policy.  It's no wonder Obama has had to go negative, if only to combat the non-stop attacks.  

The other option would be to go all Kerry and you see how well that worked.

Bottom line- against the GOP Fighting fire with fire is the only way to win.
Hoping the American people have learned their lesson after these years with Bush.  

When will the news media refuse to cover McCain's campaign until they provide unfettered access to Palin?  She owes us proof that she is qualified, and if she isn't willing to sit down for an interview and be expected to play in the same arena as everyone else, the sexism actually belongs to McCain.

You in the media should refect on your duty to be "devil's advocate" for the American people
I am so happy to see Obama finally taking a more aggresive stance against the lies and smears of the McCain two-faced campaign.  Kudos to Obama for telling it like it is to the hispanic voters, who wouldn't know what Limbaugh had said about them, but for these ads.  And sorry, but since McCain and the Republican party in general, give people like Rush a wink and a nod to say what they say, Obama's ad linking Rush's comments with McCain, is fair game!
Your post fails to draw an important distinction. Negative ads can be fine -- acceptable, appropriate, informative -- when they accurately show a meaningful contrast between the candidates' positions, or when they inform viewers about a troubling aspect of a candidate's claims or actions. Negative ads -- or positive ads, for that matter -- cross the line when they are misleading, hypocritical, cynical or personal.
You guys wanted to know if Obama was weak or if he could fight back and use negative Ads just like the big boys of politics. I warned weeks ago in a comment that there is a part of Obama that is cold and calculating and people better not mess too much or that part of Obama would surface nailing people to the wall. Well, it may be here and your question as to when Obama was going to start fighting back has been answered. Like it? No matter. McCain and all you pundits and media types asked for it. So here it is. Take it to them Obama.
Now that we have new polling data I look forward to seeing Chuck Todd change back the electoral map on his newfangled gadget that shows the electoral college race.  I always enjoy seeing him on MSNBC tv, just wish he got more time.

We can't trust the fundamental deregulator to now flip flop into the fundamental regulator.  We can't trust the fox to guard the henhouse.

Go Obama/Biden 08/12!
Limbaugh really ahs his nerve calling Obama out of bounds with all the disgraceful crap he ahs said on race over the past 35 years.


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