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Biden defends 'patriotic' tax remark

Posted: Thursday, September 18, 2008 3:58 PM by Carrie Dann
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From NBC/NJ's Mike Memoli
AKRON, Ohio -- Fired up in a room full of union members, Joe Biden angrily defended both his ticket’s tax plan and his own claim that tax hikes for the rich are patriotic, while urging fellow Democrats to stand their ground on what he said was a values debate.

Biden, speaking to members of the Laborers International Union of North America, began by saying that there is “no disagreement” between John McCain and Barack Obama on the need for tax cuts. The real issue, he said, is who gets them.

“Catholic social doctrine as I was taught it is, you take care of people who need the help the most,” he said. “Now it'd be different if you could make the case to me that by giving this tax cut to the very wealthy, everybody else was going to be better off. We saw what happened the last eight years when we gave that tax cut."

He then explained his statement, first made at a rally in Sarasota, FL, two weeks ago, that asking the wealthiest Americans to accept tax hikes would be patriotic. And he added that the tax rates would still be lower than they were under the Reagan administration.

“I tell you, Democrats,” Biden said, gritting his teeth. “Don't you step down from anybody telling you that we don't value, we don't have American values. … I want this debate about values! I want this debate about American values.”

Biden was speaking before a very friendly audience, but urged them to spread the word, acknowledging that even some Democrats remain wary of Obama.

“Say you’re right, last eight years worked pretty well, didn’t they?” he said. “How do you feel, small businessman, about the last eight years? How do you feel, white-collar worker, about the last eight years? … This is not about Democrat or Republican. It’s about the facts.”

Biden, who has been doing regular interviews with both local and national press, deviated during his remarks to challenge both members of the GOP ticket to do the same.

“It’s not just Sarah Palin,” he said. “When’s the last time John’s had a press conference? I’m serious! … When an elected officials stops holding press conferences, it ain’t because he’s found a new way to communicate, it’s because he doesn’t want to communicate.”

Though Biden has done his share of interviews – by one count over 80 – he has not himself held more than two solo press conferences, and none in nearly two weeks. His first solo press conference was in Pittsburgh on Sept. 1, and was very brief, as he explained his decision to cancel an appearance in the city’s Labor Day parade. He did speak with reporters aboard his campaign plane on Sept. 7 for over a half hour.

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McCain likes to say that Obama will raise taxes.  This is an outright lie; Obama will CUT taxes for people earning less than $250,000 annually, many as much as 80%, will eliminate taxes altogether for seniors with fixed incomes, and will raise taxes only for those who earn more than $250,000 annually.  

McCain would cut taxes for those earning MORE than $250,000 (the Bush tax cuts that McCain would make permanent).  He would leave taxes for those earning less than $250,000 about the same.
It is hypocritical that Conservatives who claim to be Evangelical are quick to opposed higher taxes from Rich people. The last time I read the bible it said something akin to "he who much is given, much is expected." Just may be- this is the reason the school systems in the South needs help. If schooling system is supported by local taxes- and you have rich people paying taxes with the same ratio as other people: go figure! Republican conservative "evangelical"- be what you claim or get real!
“I tell you, Democrats,” Biden said, gritting his teeth. “Don't you step down from anybody telling you that we don't value, we don't have American values.

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You have values all right Biden. Old time Soviet values.
Can't Obama reign this guy in? He's killing the Democrats chances!!
GO JOE!!
This guy represents the most Americans...He gets what it is all about. Get him in the White House.
Did you see that article on him yesterday?
http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=685a4524-9702-49c0-b062-7d9ecd21a854

Any woman and anyone with a daughter should vote for this guy, and I'd be glad to discuss with anyone who thinks otherwise.
Why do the Democrats use the tax code to punish people?
If Mc Cain says it is not patroic for the people who have non earned income above 250,000  to be taxed higher than thoes of us who earn real wages under 250,000. Would he also say it is not patroic for us to ask these million to pay back some of the deficit that not taxing them fairly has incured and we the small business and hourly wage earner will be paying.  Mc Cain and his less regulation or no regulation has taken enough of what we have save all these years to retire on.
Good stuff. I like McCain/Palin defending their tax cut for the upper middle and rich class's.  They are admitting that those who have more should pay less.  That those who profitted from the BUSH/MCCAIN taxcut should be willing to have that rate reduced to levels prior to the tax cut to help their country. This crystilizes the debate. Reform only as a word. Change only as a word. Protect your base at all costs. Well the chickens have come home to roost. It's time we did put country first because McCain/Palin do not.
What a dumb comment for him to make.

Does he want us to move to socialism or communism?
This from the guy that's donated a whopping $3,000 on $2.4 million in income over the past five years.  Are you kidding me???


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