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Obama knocks McCain on regulation

Posted: Saturday, September 20, 2008 1:58 PM by Mark Murray
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From NBC/NJ's Athena Jones and NBC's Mark Murray
DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. -- This week’s market turmoil provided the basis for Obama’s latest line of attack against his rival. The senator blasted McCain for his support for opening up the health insurance market to increased competition, for wanting to privatize Social Security, and for his ties to lobbyists.

The Illinois senator has seized on these issues as the country’s economic troubles have taken center stage, using McCain’s positions to paint him as out of touch with the concerns of ordinary Americans. He bashed McCain for his statement that he's “fundamentally a deregulator” -- when deregulation is part of the problem on Wall Street.

“My opponent actually wrote in the current issue of a health care magazine -- the current issue -- I’m quoting here, 'Opening up the health insurance market to more vigorous nationwide competition, as we have done over the last decade in banking, would provide more choices of innovative products less burdened by the worst excesses of state-based regulation,' he told a crowd of about 2,500 people packed into a school theater here in central Florida. He was referring to this article by McCain.

“There’s only one candidate who said [that]. That it wasn’t me. So let me get this straight: He wants to run health care like they’ve been running Wall Street. Well, senator, I know some folks on Main Street who aren’t going to think that’s such a good idea.”

As he did yesterday, Obama told the crowd McCain supported privatizing Social Security and asked them to imagine how people would feel had their retirement savings been tied up in the rocky stock market this past week. "I’ll protect Social Security, while John McCain has talked about privatizing it.  Now without Social Security half of elderly women would be living in poverty. Half. But if my opponent had his way, the millions of Floridians who rely on it would’ve had their Social Security tied up in the stock market this week. How do you think that would have made folks feel?"

McCain spokesman Tucker Bounds responded with this statement: “John McCain is 100% committed to preserving Social Security benefits for seniors, and Barack Obama knows it -- this is a desperate attempt to gain political advantage using scare tactics and deceit... Whether he’s using Rush Limbaugh in blatantly false advertisements or scaring seniors with ‘rank misrepresentation,’ Barack Obama has proven he will say and do anything to put his superficial ambitions over the real challenges Americans are facing.”

However, McCain clearly supported President Bush's effort in 2005 to partially privatize Social Security. "Private savings accounts work," he said in March 2005. "They have been proven to work, not only in America, but all over the world. And we ought to really strongly support it.”
 
Lobbyist connections
Obama also hit McCain again for employing lobbyists in his campaign -- this time taking special digs at McCain adviser and former Hewlett-Packard CEO Carly Fiorina. 

“When John McCain says that lobbyists “won’t even get past the front gate” at his White House, my question is -- who is going to stop them?” he asked incredulously. “Those seven lobbyists that are running his campaign?  His campaign manager? His campaign chairman? The economic adviser who got a $40 million golden parachute when she was fired as a CEO? Or maybe the 26 advisers and fundraisers who lobbied for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac? I mean, give me a break.”

He went on to criticize McCain’s attempt to tie him to former Fannie Mae chief executive Franklin Raines. “My opponent attacked me for being associated with a Fannie Mae guy who I met once and talked to for maybe five minutes,” Obama said. “He did a TV ad saying this guy was my adviser. The guy actually had to send out a letter saying ‘uh, that’s not true. I actually don’t really talk to the guy.’ The same day he did that, the head of the lobbying shop at Fannie Mae turned around and said wait a minute, 'when I see photographs of Sen. McCain’s staff, it looks to me like the team of lobbyists who used to report to me.' This is what the head of lobbying at Fannie Mae said. Folks, you can’t make this stuff up.”

The event was billed as a women’s rally, much like the one Obama held yesterday in Coral Gables, and his speech focused on issues like pay equity, education, the right to an abortion, and expanded family and medical leave -- drawing contrasts with McCain at every turn. The candidate even broke into song at one point while complimenting his wife Michelle, a working mother. He compared her to “that Chaka Khan song," singing the line “I’m Every Woman” and prompting and gleeful response from the crowd.

The senator was introduced by Arizona Gov. Janet Napolitano, who stressed his opposition to privatizing Social Security, and Kansas Gov. Kathleen Sebelius, who talked about Obama’s upbringing by Midwestern women and his understanding of issues like healthcare and pay equity because of his experience with his sick mother and his grandmother’s experience working for a bank.

The enthusiastic crowd that filled a theater at Bethune Cookman University, a historically black college, was about 80% black. Before the event, different groups took turns standing and shouting challenges to other groups. “We want change yes we do, we want change how about you?” they said. And later “We want change, we’ll go vote, how about you?” They oohed and ahhed and booed and clapped throughout Obama’s roughly 30-minute speech.

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Yep!  Hit him with the FACTS Obama!  McCain has been telling lies to cover up his lack of knowledge!  

Yup. OBAMA was right on the war;
    OBAMA seems to be right on the economy situation;
 And Sen. McCain and cronies? (GRAMM and the Deregulators-that could be a really bad band) Flailing about with quick-trigger comments and positions, back-and-forth, all wrong, just
  ANOTHER BAIL OUT brought to the taxpayers FROM THE JUDGMENT OF KEATING 5 !
"...Opening up the health insurance market to more vigorous nationwide competition, as we have done over the last decade in banking..." This statment by McCain deserves more attention than just reporting that Obama talked about it in a speech. It puts the lie to everything he has said this week, plus he claims credit for the deregulation of the banking industry. People deserve to know.
All of the arguments against McCain on this issue are nothing more that liberal talking points.  Where is the promised change?
RHJ
Tucker Bounds is a lying idiot...desperation from the McCain campaign will only increase in the weeks ahead as Obama and Biden continue to pull ahead in the polls, focus on the issues and slam their opponents in the debates
Great shots. Should all be ads
pounding home each point with quotes and video clips and senate votes from Sen. McCain and the Repubs.
Keep linking the faces of LOBBYISTS and bank connections with being on the McCain campaign payroll.
 Tough, hard. 77% AND COUNTING!
I wish he would have mentioned the real culprit that's responsible for us paying 700 Billion...Phil Graham. I hope he pins old Phil right on McSame's forhead.

If Sen. McCain and Gov. Palin want to deny all connection to the Republicans and the Bush administration, they should be on the INDEPENDENT Ticket.
They're NOT.
Obama is right! Socialism is the answer. A Community Organizer should be in charge of everything!! What could possibily go wrong that idea?
McCain is running as fast as he can from his record on deregulation... he's likely to say anything and everything over the next couple of weeks to keep the narrative away from his long history of deregulation, including his vote for the Gramm-Leach-Bliley act in 1999 that largely got us into this mess!

http://torqopia.blogspot.com/2008/09/mccains-flip-flops-on-regulation.html

He's flip-flopped on just about everything... now he's skirting his own campaign finance reforms:

http://torqopia.blogspot.com/2008/09/mccain-skirts-federal-spending-limits.html
One bank, one insurance company, one telephone company, one newspaper, one tv station, one power company, one post office (ooops, already got that one), one clothing store (government issued grays), one food store. No competition, no advertising. We'll save a bundle, and we'll look good in our National Uniforms. Then we can watch Barack lecture us every night on the tellie.
Yeah, whats deregulation ever gotten this country? Just this #1 super power status in the worlkd. But thats a pain, because now everyone is asking us for money and trying to immmigrate here. Deregulation has been nothing but trouble.
Every day a new verbal gaffe from the Dumb and Dumber ticket.  Yeah the fundamental deregulator wants to deregulate the health care industry to ensure we get ripped off for essential health care services and that the insurance companies can deny payment without supervision or responsibility.  Proof that Flip Flop McCain can't keep his talk straight!

The $700 billion taxpayer funded bailout of Wall Street is nothing less than a bailout of the republican party and the McCain campaign who brought us Reagan's Voo Doo economics that created this whole mess.  This bailout is nothing but stealing from our children and grandchildren and we adults should be apologizing to them for the reckless deregulation brought on by the lobbyist loving Reagan foot soldiers.  Heck of a job Johnny!

Go Obama/Biden 08/12!
Keep it up Barack!
The voters need to be aware how out of touch
Mccain is with middle class America and what
is GOOD for this country.
He and Bush really pushed to privatize Social
Security. And, am sure, since he is a non-
regulation guy, we would be in as big a mess
as we are with his banking policies.
We cannot let the republicans continue to
destroy our great country.
ENOUGH!!
Having Tucker Bounds as his spokesman shows us that McCain surrounds himself with incompetents.  What would a McCain Administration look like?  Heck of a job, Brownie!
McCain's thoughts, words and position is so scattered. The only way Tucker Bounds can keep sweeping up the stuff McCain spews is by throwing it on to the opposition. Yea, Tucker we "get it" alright.

The debates will bring it all home.

Great campaign fundraising by location map MSNBC!!!! Interesting data state by state for each candidate. I see Obama gets more donations in Alaska than McCain. Great tool. Thanks!
As long as FOX news is allowed to lie without being called on it by other media outlets, other than Keith Oberman and The Daily Show our national discourse will never be of any benefit.  It's simple.  Don't allow people to say what 'some one else meant', use the video of them contradicting themselves and then allow them to explain.  Don't allow them to change the meaning of words! "Fundamentals"  this is a term that has been taught in economics classes for a hundred years.  The media needs to fijnd a backbone and realize their responsibity to the Nation!  Allowing a party mouthpeice to take up valuable aitr time repeating the same lies serves no one!!!
"Barack Obama has proven he will say and do anything to put his superficial ambitions over the real challenges Americans are facing.”

How the hell can the McCain camp make statements like that with a straight face??  When their candidate has changed faces so many times just this week alone that I'm suprised he didn't give himself whiplash.  Combine that with all his many, many gaffes this week, and it's SO CLEAR this man is putting his quest for the white house first and foremost.  Country First my a$$.  John McCain First is more like it.  

ENOUGH!!!!!!

OBAMA/BIDEN '08
Obama is right! Socialism is the answer. A Community Organizer should be in charge of everything!! What could possibily go wrong that idea?
I Organize Play Dates for Kids
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While Obama was a community organizer Palin was going to 5 schools over 6 years for a frigging Communication degree!  If I remember to my football days, Communiation was the degree all the really dumb athletes took.  And we only had 4 years to get our dumb-dumb degree.  It took Palin 6 years to get a degree that the dumbest ball-player gets in 4.

So, go ahead vote for the: "Hey we all know they are idiots, but at least they are white" ticket.  I dare you...
Starring at my stock portfolio makes me ill!

I can't believe we let McCain and Graham get away with this crap.  All my savings up in smoke because they wanted to deregulate Wall street like thy did the energy sector.  That got us skyrocketing gas prices thanks to futures trading and Enron.

Not he wants to do that to healthcare!  OMG!  And if he dies we have Palin in change of the economy.

Not this time, even die hard republicans need to wake up, we do need change in Washington, and not a pretender like McCain.
Scare tactics? McCain said he would cut spending and he said SS cuts are on the table.  He backed Bush's plan to "privitize".  I am at times incredulous that McCain and his people tell outright lies, and then when called on them, they lie again!  Somehow he seems to continue to fool about half the people.  Only ignorance and/or racism can explain anyone voting for McCain.
Tucker Bounds = Liar

Sarah Palin = Liar

John McCain = Liar

MSM - FR

Please make more than just a footnote that these dishonorable people are trying to flat lie on a daily basis to win this election. You need to elevate this loudly and as often as they do it so the lowest info voters get the message. Obama needs to be called out as well when he does. To pretend "both sides do it" is irresponsible.

Obama / Biden 2008
Eric, Salinas, CA
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Obama is "LYING" through his teeth about not being in bed with Franklin Raines and Jim Johnson, both heads of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.  Raines and Johnson both gave themselves millions and millions of dollars in bonuses.  They cooked the books, you dummy.
More Money More Problems: "Yeah, whats deregulation ever gotten this country? Just this #1 super power status in the worlkd. But thats a pain, because now everyone is asking us for money and trying to immmigrate here. Deregulation has been nothing but trouble. "

When you take your head out of the sand take a look around.  Obama's whole point is that we're NOT the #1 superpower in the world anymore. But there's hope.  There's no question that people want to immigrate here, but your comparison is like saying we're the thinnest kid at Fat Camp.  Obama will rebuild our prestiguous status in the world and put us back on that pedistool where we belong.  OBAMA-BIDEN 08!!!
I agree with Senator Obama 100%.  He is saying it right!  Tucker is an intentional idiot- he says stupid things because he is paid to say stupid things that are lies.  He would have to 'disappear' if he told the truth like Fironia told the truth, mccain and palin couldn't run a corportation which implies they sure can't run a nation of corporations!

I would like to remind people that the office of president and vice-presidet are 'public servant' offices. There is limited privacy.  If you run for office, the need to be open is inheritant.  I want to see Palin's tax returns for at least the past 2 years that she has been a governor.  That is fair.

Or

are we going to continue as a nation to support a dual dictatorship inwhich the only accountability our "public servants" have is to say "no comment" and "executive priviledge".  

At this point with Cheney's private business in Iraq and his income secure because he moved it overseas(being protected by the taxpayers) and the Bush legacy a travesty although he personally made millions and has increased his wealth as president, it appears that even with an intelligent, effective leader  such as Senator Obama ready to take on the job, the ONLY reason he is not more ahead in the polls is his race.  How incredibly sad that the bigots of this nation would rather wallow in a depression for years than select a competent leader.


"I wish he would have mentioned the real culprit that's responsible for us paying 700 Billion...Phil Graham. I hope he pins old Phil right on McSame's forhead."

With the "nation of whiners" quote thrown in for good measure.
I agree with Senator Obama 100%.  He is saying it right!  Tucker is an intentional idiot- he says stupid things because he is paid to say stupid things that are lies.  He would have to 'disappear' if he told the truth like Fironia told the truth, mccain and palin couldn't run a corportation which implies they sure can't run a nation of corporations!

I would like to remind people that the office of president and vice-presidet are 'public servant' offices. There is limited privacy.  If you run for office, the need to be open is inheritant.  I want to see Palin's tax returns for at least the past 2 years that she has been a governor.  That is fair.

Or

are we going to continue as a nation to support a dual dictatorship inwhich the only accountability our "public servants" have is to say "no comment" and "executive priviledge".  

At this point with Cheney's private business in Iraq and his income secure because he moved it overseas(being protected by the taxpayers) and the Bush legacy a travesty although he personally made millions and has increased his wealth as president, it appears that even with an intelligent, effective leader  such as Senator Obama ready to take on the job, the ONLY reason he is not more ahead in the polls is his race.  How incredibly sad that the bigots of this nation would rather wallow in a depression for years than select a competent leader.


McCain has a voting record over 26 years.He can run but he cant hide from that little fact.
The GOP affirmative action nominee
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One again you jerks are playing the "race card."

When I was in college, football players did not major in Communications.  What planet did you come from?  Geeeezzzeeee, First Read, where is this dude coming from?????


W
While Obama was a community organizer Palin was going to 5 schools over 6 years for a frigging Communication degree!  If I remember to my football days, Communiation was the degree all the really dumb athletes took.  And we only had 4 years to get our dumb-dumb degree.  It took Palin 6 years to get a degree that the dumbest ball-player gets in 4.

So, go ahead vote for the: "Hey we all know they are idiots, but at least they are white" ticket.  I dare you...
The GOP affirmative action nominee (Sent Saturday, September 20, 2008 2:31 PM)


The only AA candidate out there is Obama. It shows that it allows imcompetents to move. The problem is, they are still incompetents.
On McCain blaming Obama for part of the financial mess, If it wasn't so serious a situation I would have a good laugh! If McCain really believes this to be true, he is SERIOUSLY FLAWED!
Making a profit is for losers.
That's what I'm talking about.  On every hand Obama is able to refute McCain's lies with the facts and McCain's own statements and record. Then he offers his plan. Those things he has fought for in Illinois and the policies he wants to put in place as president.

McCain, on the other hand, has lied, misrepresented and flip-flopped on a daily basis, saying whatever he thinks will go over big that day and provide himself a good sound bite.  Even if his proposals were good, which they are not, how can we believe he would do it?

But, the thing that burns me up the most, is that he believes those of us who see and hear him on a regular basis are stupid and that the racists will use his lies to convince LIV voters that they are true.

DON"T LET HIM GET AWAY WITH IT!  ANYONE WHO LIEs LIKE THAT TO GET THE POSITION, WILL LIE EVEN MORE TO KEEP IT!!!!!  
Imagine it is Nov.5, the day after election day. Now go look in your bathroom mirror, look yourself in the eyes and imagine McCain/Palin have been elected.  How do you feel?  Nervous...knowing nothing has changed.  Keep looking..now imagine Obama/Biden have been elected.  Hope do you feel?  Excited and hopeful and optimistic that this great country will be great again.  Be honest with yourselves.  Vote for change.

Vote Obama/Biden '08
The GOP affirmative action nominee <<<<

As opposed to the Democrat Affirmative Action nominee? At least Palin ran something.

You appear to be kind of a snob too.
I vote on the issues not the political party.  This week put everything into perspective.  I plan to vote for what is best for me and my family.  Trickle down economics has not trickled down on middle class in years.    This year I will be casting my vote for Barack Obama!
"Obama is right! Socialism is the answer. A Community Organizer should be in charge of everything!! What could possibily go wrong that idea?"

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I'm sorry, but which party just yesterday socialized the banking system to the tune of $700 billion?


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