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McCain: So a third Bush term is true…

Posted: Monday, September 22, 2008 9:26 AM by Domenico Montanaro
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The Washington Post examines the fact that so many Bush veterans are helping McCain and Palin. "The clutch of Bush veterans helping to coach Palin reflects a larger reality about Sen. John McCain's presidential campaign: Far from being a group of outsiders to the Republican Party power structure, it is now run largely by skilled operatives who learned their crafts in successive Bush campaigns and various jobs across the Bush government over the past eight years."

“Republicans have been heartened by the effectiveness of the new McCain organization, which has helped put McCain back in serious contention for the White House, causing restlessness among Democrats who believed the race was Sen. Barack Obama's to lose. Dana Perino, the White House spokeswoman, expressed pride at what her former colleagues have been able to accomplish… Yet others, including some sympathetic Republicans, have begun to quietly question whether McCain and Palin are well served by strategists so firmly anchored in the Bush establishment when the candidates are presenting themselves as a ‘team of mavericks’ and agents of change. One Republican with long-standing ties to the Bush administration described the situation as a paradox in which Palin is especially vulnerable.”
 
“‘If the McCain campaign is trying to prop up Palin as its change agent, and its inoculation against the “third Bush term” rap, then why on earth is she surrounded by a cast of Bush advisers?’ said the Republican loyalist, who spoke on the condition of anonymity. ‘Since she's been selected, every single one of the senior aides that she's brought on board had prominent roles in Bush's White House or on his campaigns, or both.’”

By the way, far fewer Clinton/Gore/Kerry veterans are with Obama than Bush veterans with McCain.
 
The McCain camp is up with a new ad today that attempts to paint Chicago's historical political image problem on to Obama. Interesting the folks they choose to highlight vs. the Chicago pols they didn’t.

This car fact isn't great for McCain -- 13 for the McCains versus one for the Obamas. Ouch.

On TODAY, NBC's Meredith Vieira asked McCain, "Does it bother you that you draw the biggest crowds when she's [Palin's] there?" McCain dismissed that, saying, "Oh, it's very exciting."

Al Franken, a former Saturday Night Live performer and currently running for U.S. Senate in Minnesota, "had a phone conversation last week with SNL creator Lorne Michaels, his campaign spokeswoman Colleen Murray said Sunday. She described the talk as two friends of more than 30 years catching up, and she said Franken told Michaels about his experiences on the campaign trail. In relating a story about recording campaign commercials, Franken noted how all political candidates must say they 'approve this message' in their ads -- and editorialized that he thought it must be a difficult task for McCain, whom many Democrats and pundits have accused of leveling dishonest charges against Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama." 
 
Here’s SNL's take on McCain's ads.

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McCain + Palin = Bush.

Increasingly, the McCain campaign looks eerily similar, both in tactics and policy, to the Bush 43 administration.

http://thepajamapundit.com/
A 3rd Bush term would be better then a second Carter term. We seem to have forgooten about double digit unemploymnet, double digit inflation, and 14% mortgage rates. If you liked all those, you would love Obama being president.
Yep...why do voters buy the rhetoric and avoid the truth?...Because it's easier.
Let's see, McCain owns 7 houses and 13 cars.  I think a McCain presidency would be worst than Bush.  McCain and the Republicans have run this nation over the cliff.  McCain is as greedy as the roaches on Wall Street.  Why should the taxpayers reward McCain's greed with elevating him to the White House?  Why does an old man need 7 houses and 13 cars?  It is pure greed, folks.  
OBAMA/BIDEN '08
We can see that the republicans were just lying again at their convention when they tried to pretend they were some brand new party.  The false mavericks of the Dumb and Dumber ticket are just more Bush Hugging clones who will give everything to the top 5% while ripping the other 95% off the way they've done since Ronny Raygunz!

We need new intelligent and honest leadership and only Obama/Biden will give us the change we need and can believe in.

Go Obama/Biden 08/12!
McCain/Palin 08 -- we like to have it both ways, we're mavericks except we can't run a campaign (well, that's more McCain) so we are beholden to all the Bush operatives.

Color me "not surprised" which is a particular shade of repulsed gray.
Yeah, this is change alright, don't pay any attention to the man behind the curtain Dorthy. Not this time, No Way, No How, No McGoo.
NOTHING MORE SCARY than watching ignorance in action. - Tommy Smothers  9/21/08

No DIPSTICK & LIPSTICK ticket!
What will happen when John McCain is elected? The worst is yet to be seen! You think people are living in tent communities now, they will become the staple of our communities soon, get ready Walmart,K-Mart,and Sporting goods stores, Tent sales will skyrocket! And John McCain has 7 homes!!! Yes maser McCain, I's would love to work at one of your homes, whichever one I cans place mines family tents!!!
We are not surprised!
I just want to hear Tina Fey say, "Thanks...but no thanks"
http://twocanpete.blogspot.com/
The more Repubs 'change' the more they stay the same.
But you missed the point that /carlie had a 40 million paycheck that Mccain claims not to know a thing about!!!
How can he not know?
that is a lie!!
If he doesn't know then he is a old fool...
Typical republican campaigning.  When you as a party have nothing new or positive to say just make stuff up and keep saying it until you yourself start to believe your own lies.  I wonder how long it will be until th repubs play the 911 card?  I suppose it will be next Monday after McBush loses the first debate.
Almost every night i hear someone on talk tv comment how sarah palin quote "has a compeling story" whadupwiddat, what is so compeling about her life?
nickb
>>> “‘If the McCain campaign is trying to prop up Palin as its change agent, and its inoculation against the “third Bush term” rap, then why on earth is she surrounded by a cast of Bush advisers?’ said the Republican loyalist, who spoke on the condition of anonymity. ‘<<<

Yeah, right. Let me guess, the 'Republican loyalist', was with wihter Al Franken, or an even bigger comedian, Chuck Hagel.
This car fact isn't great for McCain -- 13 for the McCains versus one for the Obamas. Ouch.

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Nice to see we're getting back to the real issues.
Good.  Let McCain and Palin do nothing about the ties to Bush.

The American people are kicking themselves for voting for Bush in 2004.

It won't happen again, not with a likely "third term" of futility lurking.
hopefully this can show the American people we will have no change if Mcain becomes president. I have read some blugs and hear people say 4 years is not a longtime, well it is if you think things are bad now by the end of 4 yrs we will be in the bottom of the pits with more debts, people dying with lack of health care, and unemployment up the roof. Please let us all think about the good of the country not our own pride remember UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
Four more years!  Four more years!  Four more years!  We will see world war III if and when McCain wins this election.  Oh well, at least the workers in the military industrial sector will have jobs.  
So why is John McCain touting change when he has all these Bush people in his camp.  If he wins, nothing will change.  
In what world can McCain paint himself as anything but the consummate Washington Republican? He has consistently supported EVERY legislation to deregulate the protections put in place after the Great Depression geared to keep banks and other financial institutions from greedy, corrupt practices.

John McCain is a worshipper at the feet of Ronald Reagan...

The so-called Republican "conservative ideals of smaller government" have been corrupted by the corporatist libertarianism of the presidents and elected officials of the past 20 or so years.

It is AMAZING to me how this group has expounded the idea that wealth somehow "trickles down" when their goals are to consume all the wealth possible from America. They did it with Savings & Loans (Remember Keating?) They did it with Enron (Phil Gramm there, too). They did it with the dot Com boom and bust. And now, they have played fast and loose with mortgages, derivatives and banking made possible by Republicans who pushed through deregulation and removed oversight.

These crooks and liars always want to subsidize the risk but privatize the wealth.

The recent actions in Congress to "bailout" Wall Street is just another move to grab even more money that this country JUST DOESN'T HAVE. It's theft on a scale never before seen, unless you go back to the days of the Roman Empire. It is, one might say, a corporate coup of this country.

I would urge Congress to let Wall Street FAIL. These greedy suckers, on news of getting a bailout were back to business as usual. Paulson claims that a bailout is required to keep credit cards working for the average American. BS!

Let credit cards fail. It's TIME they did.

The $700B-$800B required for this corporate bailout is money America will have to borrow -- more debt placed on top of the trillions we already have because of a war started by that certified IDIOT BUSH, money mostly going into the pockets of corrupt countries, Cheney cronies, like Halliburton, KBR, Booz Hamilton, The Carlyle Group and others.

NOWHERE is this more evident than in the 180 degree flipflop of the "king of deregulation" -- John McCain -- who rails at a broken Congress and the greed of Wall Street while hoping America will forget that it is HIS OWN PARTY and, in fact, his GOD Reagan who perpetuated the MYTH that wealth trickles down.

So much for COUNTRY FIRST.

Corporate libertarians like McCain and his top advisors (Gramm, particularly, but also Thain and others) have clearly and consistently put the RICH first, the rest of you be DAMNED.

They've put this economy in the toliet; Americans should take a big dump, turn around, look in their toliets. THAT is what trickles down for the middle class and those even worse off.

If we are to bail out anyone, let us bail out our COUNTRY.

Let's take half of that $700B-$800B and IMMEDIATELY start an Energy Technology push to develop clean, green technologies such as wind and solar and hydrogen power. Heck, let's hire T.Boone to run the department overseeing it. Let's build JOBS that stay right here in our country -- let's do some nation building right here, in America.

Then, let's take the other half of that money and provide every single HOMEOWNER (not investor, but OWNERS, living in their houses or recently kicked out) in foreclosure with a low and fixed interest loan to keep their home. Also, let's invest in IMMEDIATE funding for extended unemployment benefits and aid to people and families who are truly suffering right NOW in America. And while we are at it, why not put some of that money in Texas and Louisiana and other states suffering incredibly from the destruction caused by GUSTAV and IKE... (ask yourself... Where ARE those Republican self-proclaimed "patriots" -- who politically exploited Hurricane Gustav to simultaneously avoid the political embarrassment of a link of Bush/Cheney to McCain/Airhead at the RNC -- in the wake of Hurricane Ike's devastation of Texas?)

Wall Street, the Republicans, and the clay feet of their GOD Reagan need to be exposed and revealed for what they truly are: CROOKS, LIARS and THIEVES.

As an independent, this Missouri Mom (and gramma) will be voting for someone who is really interested in changing the fundamental failures in Washington...

because, it's NOT about EARMARKS, America --  it's about YEARS of using distraction to get you to PAY NO ATTENTION TO THE MEN BEHIND THE CURTAIN... it's about a coming attempt by the corporatists to essentially effect a FINANCIAL COUP over the United States, by sucking what little remaining wealth we have left dry.

Revolution starts from the bottom up.

The revolution starts right here, right now.

Write every single person you can in Washington DC and in your State to tell them to tell the "Reaganites" NO HOW, NO WAY, NO BAILOUT!
McCain is a big fat liar....so he would make a splendid Third Busher.
Here is an idea for an Obama add:

Republicans = war and debt.

Democrats = peace and prosperity.

You decide.
I guess if Obama is in power, we'll all be regulated to 1.3 cars per family, 2.1 children, 1.1 houses. Government issued clothing will eliminate the need for all those fancy rich people clothing stores, like JC Penny's and Target. Walmart of course will be outlawed because they wouldn't let the unions in. And our cars will be vintage '57 chevy's, just like they have in Cuba.
I would rather have a third Bush term than a second Carter term.  
Of course its a third Bush term, Anyone who doesnt see that is blind. 90% of the time is a lot of votes
over the last 7 1/2 years.
 I would love to suggest a topic. THE MEDIA, You guys included. We need nothing but the unvarnished truth from the media, not pigs, not lapel pins, not
paris hilton. We need dialog on the issues, You should
really call a untruth a untruth, you should call the truth, the truth. You should not let a lie go uncalled. When either campaign goes to stupid unrealated topics, dont report them like they mean something. just call it hogwash and go on. Come on guys, lets us meet the real press, like Tim Russert
would be doing right now.  I know most of you are republicans, thats OK . I understand most of you will really be voting your intrest, go ahead and do so, but its not your job to taint the news, report the news. Please see how the American public feels about you right now. Look at how Joe S. acted this morning
when a watcher asked the same thing. We are a country in trouble and you must do what is right.

marty
Your comments about the McCain campaign are right on. The harder he tries to project his image as an "outsider" the more ridiculous he becomes. Their campaign is an insult to every voter who can think. But isn't that the strategy here, appeal to the voters 'inner racist' by giving them any excuse to not vote for Obama other than the fact that he is black.
I only hope as the election gets closer that the voting public will see them for the hypocrites they are and be color blind when they vote.
Please!  My family has 5 cars-we have five drivers.  The McCain's have seven children, five of whom are married, all of driving age. So do the math.

If Barack Obama fed First Read the information that the sun rose in the west, you'd print it and call McCain 'out of touch' for not knowing that fact.

It's okay.  Your revenues show how successful you've been at 'driving the message'.

Four years from now, I wonder if there will BE an msnbc?
So then she was for change before she was against it?

Or against change before she was for it and now back to being against it?

McCain + Palin = Bridge, Road, Track to No Where.
The Bushies are running the Palin campaign, really? And I thought they were too busy running Alaska!
Your comments about the McCain campaign are right on. The harder he tries to project his image as an "outsider" the more ridiculous he becomes. Their campaign is an insult to every voter who can think. But isn't that the strategy here, appeal to the voters 'inner racist' by giving them any excuse to not vote for Obama other than the fact that he is black.
I only hope as the election gets closer that the voting public will see them for the hypocrites they are and be color blind when they vote.
Simply put: McCain-Palin are frauds!
From A. Taxpayer:
"I would rather have a third Bush term than a second Carter term."
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Interesting.  I don't see how our current dependence on China is a preferred scenario- especially in light of the fact that many of China's children have been poisoned as a result of corporate misdeeds.  
Those of you who reference "a Carter third term" are so misinformed that you should NEVER walk near a voting booth.  The massive recession during those years started during the Nixon second term disaster and was made worse by Gerald Ford.  There are those of you out there that remember Ford's answer to inflation, wearing W(hip)I(nflation)N(ow) buttons?

Carter was definitely not my favorite President. I never voted for him.  But he is consistently accused of things that were not his doing.

The only good thing Bush ever did was make this country realize how much worse things can be.
McCain/Palin is a third Bush term on steriods!!! Thirteen cars and seven houses indeed. They are keeping the economy humming. Howver, 95% of the American people don't run in those circles so we can't possibly believe McCain when he tries for the "I feel your pain" routine. It worked for Bill Clinton who was a poor governor from Arkansas.  It will not work for the senator from Arizona and his heiress wife.

Nice try, but McCain/Palin would be a Bush 3rd term and they just need to acknowledge it, win or lose and stop with the lies an obsfuscations.
I guess if Obama is in power, we'll all be regulated to 1.3 cars per family, 2.1 children, 1.1 houses. Government issued clothing will eliminate the need for all those fancy rich people clothing stores, like JC Penny's and Target. Walmart of course will be outlawed because they wouldn't let the unions in. And our cars will be vintage '57 chevy's, just like they have in Cuba.
The Future (Sent Monday, September 22, 2008 9:54 AM)

Good one!  Will our socialist uniforms be gray or green?   Those little caps they wore in China under Mao were sort of  cute.
You guys at MSNBC are not talking about the fact that millions of folks like me (65 year old white woman soon to retire, new voter for president) as well as millions of young folks who have never voted for president before, are not being polled.  I really think that it's going to be a landslide for Obama.  Take that all you naysayers!  I'm going to Nevada to register folks for Obama and I've never voted for a Dem in my life.  Lot's of folks don't like the Dems or that other party but love Obama! I've never been polled and no one I know has ever been polled. I don't have a land line.  How many of the youth voters have land lines????  Boy, are you guys in for a surprise!  Obama 08!
Hey, A. Taxpayer, is your head really that far int he sand?  Have you been listening at all to what has happened to the financial markets?  While the republican administration has been asleep at the switch the republican mantra of "let the market do what it wants" philosophy is going to cost US. Taxpayers a trillion dollars.  Yeah, great idea lets have another 4 years of what we have had with the repubs.  
Anyone that follows politics already knows the way the Republicans work.  McCain cut his deal with the party and fell right into line when his ambition overcame his convictions and he sold his hard earned honor for the support of the right wing.

I feel for this shell of a former man.... I never totally agreed with him but I did respect him.

This car fact isn't great for McCain -- 13 for the McCains versus one for the Obamas. Ouch.

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Nice to see we're getting back to the real issues.
Democrats Have Problems With Successful People (Sent Monday, September 22, 2008 9:49 AM)

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The McCain's are successful?  Hey, nice that John McCain has been in office for 26 years, but here's a reality check...

How did the McCain's earn their fortune?

Cindy was born into it and John married into it.  That's success?
Just one more car and old grampy mcsame can have two cars per house.
McCain doesn't want to raise taxes? Just how does he expect to pay for the tremendous debt? If I have this correct, he (and his pundits) say raising taxes on business will discourage creation of jobs. Therefore what he is saying is help the wealthy get wealthier so they can get more profits in their pockets and use a fraction of it to create new employees so those lower level employees can be taxed to pay for the debt.

McCain for President? Thanks...But NO THANKS! That's the REAL bridge to nowhere!
WHat kind of data is used by these folks to claim Obama will be like Carter?  Can they cite anything?

As for will McCain be a Bush third term, let me count the ways:

Bush folks ALL over the campaign

Rove fingers all over the campaign

McCain votes 95% of the time with Bush

Palin is Bush with lipstick

McCain pushing more preemptive war with Iran

McCain the de-regulator with Phil Graham as this economic advisor

Wake up America!
I am ready for a change and a change for the other direction. We do not need another four years of Bush/McCain Palin. It is so scary that we could repeat eight years of the same. You and I both know that our free world has had so many problems to name a few, war,economy, gas, housing, jobs, education, food, insurance and on and on. We could be in a third world country if we continue the same. Amerians please think about what is going on here. I am voting for Obama and I encourage you to please do the same. I am a simple person with not a lot of needs only for those that is necessary. When that is in danger I get worried. I am of age that I can not start over and what I have is not much but enough to care for me. I do not want to loose my Social Security benefits that McCain said he wanted to invest part of the Social Security benefits with the stock market. The war that we can not afford and should not have been in to begin with that is costing a trillion dollars. We owe trillions to China and tell me how are we going to get out of the debts we owe. Think about what has happened the last 8 years. Bush has the lowest rating of any President in history and you really want the same for I don't think so.
So there's more Bush people helping McCain....well he needs the help, that's obvious.  Bush 44, McPain, Unstable/Unable, Dipstick/Lipstick...great names for a candidate(s).  The Republicans are panicking while McCain's numbers are falling and Obama's are climbing and after the debates.....it will be apparent why Obama is the only Presidential one.  
It's 2008...Shame, Shame,  shame on all the racists in this country...there's nothing more stupid than a racist.
And to all of you patriots who drive Toyotas and other foreign cars thanks for your part in nose-diving the economy.
If you care about the country and our future you'll vote Democratic..the party of the people!!
Obama/Biden '08
McCain and Palin no mavericks, they are just another Bush term. We do not need this, our Nation is going under thanks to the Republican's. People of america open up your eyes, see what McBush offers. More of the same. He does not care for the middle class, only the rich. His campaign is run by lobbyist and Bush staff.McCain will have us at war with every country and Palin would bring her witch hunting pastor to Washington. OBAMA/BIDEN 08
My daughter is 25 year old in her third year of graduate school and is uninsured, while her mother and father and brother(20 years) are fully insured she has been effectively cut from her mothers teamster medical coverage. now this situation happens to maney families and they find a way to insure their kids and they find some kind of coverage till she gets through school. My beef is this, we are all asked to bail out AIG while our older kids in school, in some cases go without insurance. this really makes me mad.
nickb
"I would rather have a third Bush term than a second Carter term"

Then you don't know your history, this shows more stupidity than anything else
What is new about Obama's politics.  The same old liberal tried and failed approaches.  Advisers are like lawyers.  The can defend you or attack you.  The skills they bring is the important issue.  They don't set policy.  They only set campaign strategy. John has shown that he is not the same.
RHJ


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