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Biden makes appeal to National Guard

Posted: Monday, September 22, 2008 4:00 PM by Carrie Dann
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From NBC/NJ's Mike Memoli
BALTIMORE, Md. -- Joe Biden, calling himself a “gigantic supporter” of the National Guard, pledged that Democrats would be a stronger ally for Guard members both at war and at home, offering added support to match what he said was an increasingly important role they play for the country.

The Democratic vice presidential nominee also offered a rebuttal to the style and substance of John McCain’s speech before the National Guard Association conference here yesterday, criticizing his foe for maligning Barack Obama’s motives.

“I heard John claim that behind Barack’s positions quote, ‘lies the ambition to be president,’” Biden recalled. “I do not think it’s appropriate to question a man or a woman’s motive. … After the last eight years, the last thing we need now is more politics of division, more characterizations of personal motivation rather than strong and important disagreements on judgment.”

And borrowing a line from his running mate, Biden alluded to his and McCain’s sons’ service to make the point that no party has a monopoly on patriotism.

“We all, we all put country first,” he said. “When John and I send our sons to war, they don’t wear a Republican flag or a Democratic flag.  They wear an American flag.”

Biden argued that the issues affecting the Guard match the nation’s challenges on national and economic security, and promised that he and Obama would support the missions of servicemen abroad and ensure they return to home “to strong, secure jobs and a sound economy.” He faulted the Bush administration and McCain for opposing legislation to extend to National Guardsmen the benefits other servicemen receive, despite their increasing role in combat.

The vice presidential nominee also said he welcomed a debate about who had the judgment to serve as commander in chief, deviating from his prepared remarks for a lengthy tangent about the state of affairs in Iraq and Afghanistan.

“We can end this war and we can end it with honor, and we can end it leaving a stable Iraq behind. So who was right on that?” he said. Obama had advocated a gradual drawdown in U.S. troops in Iraq that was as cautious as the initial decision to invade was “imprudent,” he added.  

(It’s a policy he claims the Bush administration is now pursuing, while McCain favors what Biden considers an unending commitment to stay in Iraq.)

“So when John McCain, God love him, says Barack Obama put his career before his country, what does that say President Bush is doing?” he said today. “What does that say about what is about to be the policy with a great big stamp on it? The policy that Barack Obama suggested 15 months ago is a policy that we’re about to adopt as a nation and in a de facto way we’ve already adopted.”

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McCain is the biggest hypocrit of all when it comes to the military.  Sen. Obama has a B+ rating while McCain has a "D" rating.  Does McCain think most Vets and the American people are stupid???  Apparently he does since he keeps coming up with these accusations.  All Americans should be offended at the way he and his VP choice are running their campaign with the constant lies.

OBAMA/BIDEN, 2008!
THANK YOU JOE.  WHEN MY SONS WENT TO WAR THEY WERE AMERICANS AND TO HEAR JOHN MCCAIN YOU WOULD THINK ONLY REPUBLICAN CHILDREN ARE FIGTHING AND DYING FOR THIS COUNTRY.
If John Blinky McCain put America first as he says he wouldn't have joined Charles Keating's scam.  He says he puts country first.  Who's country Blinky?  The country of the wealthiest 2 or 3 percent of the people?  Or the country of the poor, the homeless, the uninsured, the wavering middle class?  No John McCain hasn't support the middle class America for a long long time.  You're even trying to short-change vets McCain.  Vote Obama/Biden
Joe Biden, calling himself a “gigantic supporter” of the Nationl Guard.

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Goes along well with him being a "gigantic bag of wind".

To Sara Palin and her supporters, take a lesson here.

...deviating from his prepared remarks...

See, you don't always need a teleprompter, or to read from a prepared script from your handlers because they're afraid you'll mess up.  This is the mark of a good speaker, and what makes Biden a much better VP than Palin.

Obama/Biden '08!
And behind McCain's daily lies is the same ambition to be president. McCain goes beyond hypocrisy to shamelessness. Everyone who aspires to be president has ambition.
News Flash - Repukes don't own the American Flag!  Biden is right ! Dems do more for National Guardsman...Obama voted for expanded GI Bill and VA benefits....McCain voted against both and in fact, wants to eliminate most VA benefits to returnign soilders, and privatize the service.  McCain, what pathetic poor excuse for a former Vet...his POW days just made him a total crack pot...too scary to be president.  
There is nothing funnier then watching liberals try to get a few votes out of the military. That is one group that the Democrats cannot bs, they are way too smart for the Democrats.
You have to love Joe Biden. He knows his stuff and he just makes good sense. He was a great choice for VP and will be a good partner working with Obama in the White House.
I love Joe Biden.  He's the real "straight-talker".

Come on folks. Have some eggs, vote for the best team available.  Obama/Biden 08, 12.
Biden brings a common sense approach to his appeal to the National Guard.  I personally think his honesty, character, ethics, and love of this country will gain support from all sides. He's the perfect balance for the Obama/Biden ticket.
Democrats treat the military like it was just some other social program. They try to attract the military just like they do with their other social programs by showering them with perks and goodies in an attempt to buy their vote. What the military people really want though is to be better equipped to win wars. And it's on that issue that the Democrats are clueless.
Thanks to Jo Biden for saying that supporting our troops is Not Partisan. I support the troops but have experienced negativism because I don't support the Iraq War.  The Bush Administration sadly drew a line in Iraqi sand that pitted the American Public against itself...support for the wrong war is Patriotism.  Opposition to the war is treachery.  Add the element of fear to fuel the fire and Bush succeeded in burning the national unity we experienced after 9/11.  

This is a sad era in our short lived history.  Hopefully we will learn from our arrogant mistakes and regain our respected footing globally, and begin to rebuild trust of common Americans in our government.  

Rome didn't fall in a day...however it did decay from within...seems we're following suit, and we're just over 200 years old.
Keep hammering away Joe!!!  McCain doesn't OWN the word 'honor' just a Palin doesn't own the word Lipstick!!!  Really I am so angry today with the GOP!  And the Media for trying to play egalitarian, saying that both candidates are stretching the truth!!  MSM you are LYING when you say things like that!  Why are you so afraid of the GOP calling you partisan?!  Don't you know they will cal ANYONE partisan who doesn't agree with them?  They think that their world view is the ONLY and correct one; they think that their ideas are the status quo!  Chuck Todd and buddies:  Do your Job report the truth - McCain stretches the truth and Lies more often than the Democrat does!!  Stop being cowed down!!
Biden: “So when John McCain, God love him, says Barack Obama put his career before his country, . . . "


What a condecending jerk Biden is, God love him, because no one else will.
Does graduating at the bottom of his class, crashing 5 airplanes and being a prisoner of war qualify him to be Commander In Chief?
I so love this man.  And anyone, ANYONE who thinks that Sarah Palin would make a better VP than Joe Biden has just not been paying attention.

We MUST stop the Palin/First Dude/McOld/Bush ticket from winning.

AK Wolves for Obama/Biden '08
Patriots for Obama/Biden '08
Truly Country First!!!

Even Ray Charles, God rest his soul, could see that Obama and Biden are the only way to go!!
Joe Biden's biggest career moment came when he tried to block Clarence Thomas from the Supreme Court. He lost that one too. Biden also got 1% of the vote when he ran for president.

Yep, he's a real political dynamo.
“We all, we all put country first,” he said. “When John and I send our sons to war, they don’t wear a Republican flag or a Democratic flag.  They wear an American flag.”

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Amen to that! No party has a monopoly on patriotism, or Christian faith, or American values, or hard work, etc. We need to respect one another and discuss our differences with an attitude of tolerance.  Tearing one another down demeans all of us and hinders our progress as a country.

If I could be in Congress, I'd try to pass a bill that required ads to be about the candidate ONLY. No ads lying or disparaging the other candidate could be aired. I know this infringes on free speech, but these ads can be very confusing and downright misleading. Thus, if the candidates only spoke about themselves, they would be forced to discuss their policies and positions, not their perspectives on the opposition. How much money could we save then? And we might actually be better informed as a nation.  

For now, however, I am just ignoring all TV,web, and radio ads. They're the least effective way to get real info.  So glad I didn't waste time getting cable this summer. . .

Obama/Biden, '08!!!
What about Palin's son Joe? Or is it still the official Democratic line not to acknowledge any of Palin's accomplishments? You know, so Obama doesn't look bad in comparison.
Dear Joe. Get lost.
Doesn't anyone remember that McCain voted against the GI bill, didn;t want to limit times troops were sent to IRAQ,  didn't vote for healthcare after service witht the National Guard.  And McCain is suppose to help the soldiers in the National Guard.  Yea right!!!!
Didn't Obama promise to remove all troops from Iraq immediately if he became president?  Then he shifted to a more mainstream Democrat position, to set a date for the removal of troops from Iraq.  That date was to be inflexible, and have no consideration for the state of the war, or Iraq as a whole.  What Bush, and McCain for that matter have in mind is the gradual removal of troops from Iraq, as the Iraqi government, and military are able to take over and take in their place.  There is a big difference between ending our involvement after we've been successful, and are no longer needed, and setting a "drop dead" date that would pull our troops without regard for the consequences.
Way to go Joe Biden!  You are a classy first act VP!!
I'm so sick of John McCain's self-righteousness when it comes to patriotism.  He acts like nobody can be as patriotic as he is and if anybody disagrees with him, it's somehow a function of the fact they don't love America as much as he does.  Spare me.  Every time I hear him say "country first" or "honor" I just want to gag.
We all forget that years ago, McCain said that he wanted to be President from he was 62 yrs. That it had nothing to do with being patriotic etc.  Maybe someone should dig this tape up for replay.  McCain is dishonorable and disappointing.  If it were not for Palin & McCain hiding behind the enthusiam that she brings as a new political face, then it would be much clearer the being that McCain is.
New CNN Poll has Obama up by 51% to Mccain's 46%.

The poll also indciates that the vast majority of voters believe the economic mess belongs to the  republicans.

Not so good for Mr. McCain. Especailly right before the first debate where he will be taken apart by Obama and hopefully by the moderator who will challenege McCain about all the lies he and Pailin have been spreading.
What about the policy that Obama wanted to pursue-you know, that the Iraqi government would stretch out our committment there until 2012-so that, if elected, Obama could use it as a re-election campaign prop?  The one Maliki told the world about, that Obama now denies?  

He wouldn't lie, would he, Joe?  Nah; any more than you would plagiarize someone else's speech.
You go Joe !!

I'm so tired of politicians using the soldiers for political gain.  
As a veteran speaking to other active duty, vets, reservists and guardmen... casting your vote for McClown after knowing his position on veteran benefits, the new GI Bill and his future defense cuts... would make you a complete and utter idiot!
One can only hope that the American people actually are smarter than the McCain campaign think they are.  If not, and they believe the incredible lies, we are in very big trouble.  We can't even imagine.
The military should be outraged at this GOP regime that lied to all of us about this senseless war!!
C A, Tuscaloosa, AL

New CNN Poll has Obama up by 51% to Mccain's 46%.

The poll also indciates that the vast majority of voters believe the economic mess belongs to the  republicans.

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Then the vast majority of voters are in for a little surprise now aren't they?
The military should be outraged at this GOP regime that lied to all of us about this senseless war!!
For once , please vote for the person who will attempt diplomacy before war, who will advocate for the middle calss as opposed to the wealthy, and who has more than a few IQ points to rub together!!. McCain third from last in his class, Obama magna cum laude at Harvard Law School??
mccain is a disgrace to vietnam vets as well as any soldier past or present.  take the time to look up his past, it is an eye opener especially the pow coverup.  disgraceful.
" Didn't Obama promise to remove all troops from Iraq immediately if he became president?  Then he shifted to a more mainstream Democrat position, to set a date for the removal of troops from Iraq.  ......."

You have got to be kidding me.  Do you really believe that.  If so , you are truly brain washed.  Wake up and look at what is really going on.
If you want 8 more years of - if you are against the war you are against the troops; if you think the economy is going down the tubes you are against the Amercian worker; if you against invading country's that had nothing to do with attacking the U.S. you are a traitor; if you don't agree with McCain's sabre rattling you are unpatriotic. If you are for a woman's right to choose you side with the devil; if you are gay don't go to New Orleans or God will punish you by calling down upon you a terrible hurrricane; if you are not for me you are against me; if the law does not favor me as your Presdeint / VP then we are above the law.....................


If you want this kind of attitude to continue in the Whitehouse vote for McCain/Palin.  
I have 4 cousins and a niece all now seriving in Iraq. They all email me and ask my advise on issues pretaining to the military. I simply told them if you want to come home with your tail between your legs vote Obama ! Or Vote McCain finish the job and come home Hero's ! They asked if Obama seemed like a man that could lead ? I replied, he couldn't fight his way out of wet paper bag ! They laughed and then asked who I was supporting and why. I told them McCain. Why ?
1. better national defence
2. more experience in dealing with national issues
3. understands what they are going through
4. more trustworthy, he not a muslim like your fighting.

They said that was enough and said they would back McCain as well. I then told them to spread the word a about what we had talked about and gave them a web site to look up, if they could. usweekly.com. That alone will make up your mind. I did also explain Obamas closest friends and what they have done...
Ayers, Wright, Reszko, Farrakan, to name a few. I was asked in a later email hiw he got the nomination, I said it was given to him by the DNC. Hillary had more pop votes. Then explained how hillary was screwed over by the dnc and how obama was given delegets that he never campaigned for earned. MI  Then went on to explain how Obama wants to socialize America like the old USSR, giving free health care to illegals etc. Not to mention that we will make all the illegals here Americans if they  vote for him. Oh and how he plans to almost triple the amount of taxes we pay.
Needless to say I informed my fighting family abroad about Obama !!!!
Palin's son.  Someone mentioned Palin's son.  From what I have read, he really did not volunteer, he was given a choice by a judge to either go into the military or receive judgment from the court.  I do not think this puts him in the same category as Biden and McCain's sons.

cc
Keep it up Senator Biden! More arguments like this with real sense and meaning is more effective in debunking McCain's shallow attacks which has become too personal. The ambition to be president could not be more obvious than the way McCain has shown it in a negative way thru his campaign speeches & ads in a manner that is so deviant and degrading.
Every single prior Secretary of State (Republican and Dem Administrations) who particpated in the Secretary of State Forum the other night gave what was obviouisly support for Obama's foreign policy recommendations and suggestions. Not one, not one agreed with McCain's public sabre rattling and clearly stated that such talk made matters worse rather than better. Each and every one supported Obama's diplomacy first position and criticized any person who would tarnish the reputation of the U.S. by suggesting that we bully the world into believing as we do. If anyone here saw the Forum you know it was obvious that without mentioning their names, Bush and McCain took shots from these Secretaries of State throughout the entire evening. They know (Republicans as well as Dems) that McCain is dangerous.      
Vets are NOT supporting McCain.......He has a ZERO record on vet issues. Including voting AGAINST the GI bill

McCain is a FAKE, a LIAR and an OLD man with serious mental issues like dementia
What people, especially parents, should remember is that it was the Republican party that sent our sons and daughters to die in a war we never should have been in the first place. They are our most precious resource and the last thing we need is another president who will get us into needless, costly wars. So, I ask you, who is really looking out for our soldiers - those who send them into unjustified wars or those who only send them as a last resort, and who, by the way, actually then vote to take care of them when they come back?
What does the fact that military giving to campaigns this year has been heavily in favor of Obama say about the confidence of men and women in uniform regarding more Bush style Republican leadership? Being willing to fight, doesn't mean one knows how or why one should. Bush has shown us that and McCain just follows along. Many of our brave men and women recognize that.
does anybody remember back 2 months,
President Bill said these POw's can crack at any
because the stress they incured while being locked up. We all smiled and please be quiet Bill, turns out
the man hit it perfectly.

Gi Joe/ Barbie '08'
Didn't Obama promise to remove all troops from Iraq immediately if he became president?  Then he shifted to a more mainstream Democrat position, to set a date for the removal of troops from Iraq.  That date was to be inflexible, and have no consideration for the state of the war, or Iraq as a whole.  What Bush, and McCain for that matter have in mind is the gradual removal of troops from Iraq, as the Iraqi government, and military are able to take over in their place.  There is a big difference between ending our involvement after we've been successful, and are no longer needed.  There is a big difference between McCain's plan and Obama's of setting a "drop dead" date that would pull our troops without regard for the consequences.
What about Palin's son Joe? Or is it still the official Democratic line not to acknowledge any of Palin's accomplishments? You know, so Obama doesn't look bad in comparison.

Palin's Army

My guess is Joe either forgot that Track Palin is deploying soon (He hasn't actually deployed, they were having the ceremony on 9/11, before Palin was picked, so Palin could make a speech). Joe personally knows John, and has since before John was married to Cindy. They know each others children, so he was thinking about Johns children. Also Palin didn't make the remark so there really wasn't  a reason to include her son.
With McCain, of course, lies ARE behind the ambition to be president.


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