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So, about that nine-point spread...

Posted: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 11:30 AM by Domenico Montanaro

From NBC’s Domenico Montanaro
The McCain campaign took issue with the ABC/Washington Post poll which shows Obama up by 9. The reasoning, delivered by McCain pollster Bill McInturff (formerly the Republican half of the NBC/Wall Street Journal poll), was one of Party ID.

Those identifying as Democrats in the ABC/Washington Post poll outweighed Republican by 16 points, a wider-than-usual number, McInturff said.

“It’s way different than what other pollsters are showing,” McInturff said, citing many polls showing about a four-to-nine point Democratic Party ID advantage.

In the last NBC/WSJ survey (Sept. 6-8), there was an eight-point spread, 44% Democratic, 36% Republican. In August, the difference was nine points, 43% Dem, 34% Republican.

“I don’t think these results are indicative of what’s happening in the campaign,” McInturff said, calling the ABC/Washington Post poll an “outlier” and “unusual.”  

“I think that despite this very unusual week given the financial crisis, the data is remarkably stable,” McInturff said. “Where I think this race is, it’s a margin of error nationally and in most of the competitive states.”

Even though McInturff said there hasn't been a Party ID split of more than five points (even in 1992), he conceded that McCain needs a spread better than four to eight points in Election Day exit polls.

"If it’s better than that, then I feel really good," he said, "and if some historic accident happens where it turns worse than that, that’s not a good day for Sen. McCain.”

He cited the numbers average of public polls nationally and in 12 key states -- Colorado, Florida, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Nevada, New Hampshire, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.

“With good regard and respect for my fellow pollsters,” McInturff said, “this race is a margin of error race.”

*** UPDATE *** ABC Polling Director Gary Langer offers his explanation: "The reality is that partisan affiliation in our poll is just about where it’s been all year -- and just about where McInturff himself said it might end up on Election Day. What matters is whether you’re looking at 'unleaned' or 'leaned' party identification, and whether that’s among registered or likely voters. The most relevant number for this discussion is unleaned party ID among likely voters -- 37-30 percent Democratic to Republican in our poll. As it happens that’s precisely where McInturff said the election could turn out: the Republicans, he said, 'could be down 6 to 8.'

"McInturff’s focus was on a different number -- leaned party ID, not unleaned, and among registered voters, not likely voters. We have a 16-point, 54-38 percent Democratic advantage there, which he said was “an unusual outlier.” In fact, rather than an outlier, that almost exactly matches our average for this number all year, 52-38 percent."

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"I don't think the results are indicative of what is happening in the campaign."

BS.  This economic mess is a nightmare for McCain.  He been for deregulation for years and the conservative, deregulation, free-market approach will bite him in the end.  McCain could find himself in a "Heads, you win, Tails, I lose" situation when a bail-out bill comes for a vote. Depending on the bill, a "Yes" vote could be a vote for Bush and Wall Street. A "No" vote could be against middle-class America.  The devil will be in the details.  

Actually the 9 point spread may be a little high, more like a 52-47 split with 1% going to Barr. Middle class baby boomers are keeping a close eye on their retirement and will vote their pocketbook before their party.  You may see older Americans beginning to support Obama.
Time will tell.
Why get all worked up into a lather over it anyway, when our whole country is in Katrina mode?
I would love to know who these polsters are calling.I have never been asked my position.  Are these people picked at random, or from a pool.
I wonder what effect Obama's numbers will have down-ballot, if any.

Likewise McCain.  The bailout is giving legislative incumbents a real role to play prior to the election -- and their opponents must be able to come up with ideas of their own on these issues...

The polls I am interested in are the congressional battleground races...

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Funny - when McCain is UP in the polls the obama gang cries Fraud - bad polls - BUT - when obama is up - Wow - he's so great!
The American people know who is the best to lead our country - obama is NOT qualified and will never be elected.
How much does this really affect the results?  Really that many Democrats would skew the results?  That is really hard to believe.  You'd think they would tout that kind of results where not all Democrats are behind Obama.  How large was the sampling size?  That might need to be increased to work out problems like this.  
Thanks, McCool... I get it now. The poll figures are meaningful when they support you but when they're tanking you, they're rigged.... As Sarah Lipstick might say, "Tanks but no tanks."  
The Republicans were crowing after the Palin bounce. Now that the numbers don't favor them they say the polls are skewed. You can't have it both ways losers.
I'm sure McCain has a lobbyist from the polling firms on his staff that will help him put a positive spin on this.
Liberal Dan


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