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I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

Posted: Monday, October 06, 2008 11:21 AM by Domenico Montanaro
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From NBC's Domenico Montanaro
Obama
camp wants to call attention to the Keating documentary it made, which seems largely a response to McCain on Ayers. 

"They said they were going to turn the page on the economy and play the guilt by association politics," an Obama aide said. "McCain's role in this scandal points to his past handling of economic scandals."

The aide noted the closeness of McCain and Keating -- that he gave Mccain $106,000 for his campaigns and that they'd vacationed together in the Bahamas.

"They had a close personal relationship," the aide said. "This is an association that is actually relevant to the past economic crisis and how he'd handle one in the future. This is one that has been glossed over." 

Video: Obama campaign senior adviser Robert Gibbs talks about Obama's new attack ad on McCain and the Keating scandal that the Arizona senator was involved in back in the late '80s.

Keating was instrumental in McCain's rise as a politician. The Arizona senator was cleared of accused wrongdoing in the Keating 5 scandal -- though he was rebuked by the ethics committee for poor judgment.

Obama camp is going to try to keep the message focused on the economy going forward. 

Aides are also wondering how McCain will try and pivot to attack Obama in a town-hall format, and how that will be perceived by voters.

"They previewed the strategy," an aide said. "Will he [Mccain] actually sit there and launch 90 minutes of character attacks against Obama?"

The McCain campaign has invoked William Ayers on the trail, which it also did before the conventions, as well as other associations. The Washington Post reported that Jeremiah Wright would not be part of an assault on Obama's character, citing McCain on a similar attack used by the North Carolina Republican Party. But Palin told Bill Kristol that Wright is fair game.

"My gut is someday they're going to find some clip that they think will be relevant" that "could scare some people" at the margins, the Obama aide said.

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The media would have you believe that this is, and will be a close election, but we folks who know better have not a doubt as to what's about to happen in four short weeks...

Oh, yeah... Wasn't this Palin broad suppose to turn this thing around for McCain? I mean, since all the pundits say she did dominate the debate... {WHAT A JOKE!!!}

The Repugnant's have got to be disgusted with John McCain, and that goofy ass decision to select that Pain in The Ass as his running mate...

And as for the Debate, John McCain is about to get what he's been askin' for... A TOWN HALL SETTING :)

...Believe the hype if you want about him being able to dominate this type of venue... What he wanted was to get some practice sessions in with Obama so he'd know what to expect in such a setting. That's why he's been so insistant on having a Town Hall Meeting.
Buddy you only fooled your base with that 'Bush It'.

Well here you go Mc -4.more.years.of.the- Same...
Your Town Hall, with no practice sessions in between.
Take it 'My Friend' and deal with it...

(And please believe that Obama's holding another 'Trump Card')

IS THERE ANYBODY IN McCAIN'S CAMP WHO CAN EVEN ALMOST MATCH THE INTELLECT OF BARACK OBAMA?

Obama as 1 man is smarter and wiser than the collective mind of the entire McCain camp...
These Guy's Are Idiots!

...LET'S PLAY BALL!
And one of the Keating Five, John Glenn, is one of Obama's key Ohio surrogates.  Great idea to do this, Obama!
Obama has much more to fear about his own associations.
Rezko, Valerie Jarrett, Altgeld Gardens, ACORN, Rev Wright, Father Pfleger, Ayers, the CAC $$$ & who it went to, what about his Columbia years, Pritzker, Crown, yada, yada, yada~~~

Barack is "Chicago dirty"!!!
120 billion the payers had to pay last time, 700 billion this time, phill gramm, charles keating, flora, no wonder john want to give more tax breaks, to these rich theives!!! they want more and more, and he is willing to screw the very people who are voting for the goof!!! enough in enough!!!
i have to worry about gas to get to my job that i hope will still be there when this mess is over, and all john knows is tax breaks for those who don't need them. john mccain may your cancer come back!!!! your health ins be canceled because you hit the max, and you have to suffer just like every day people have to!!!! i wouder if you will still call us your friends!!!
Typical GOP Tactics...

Bash your opponent when you can't compete on the issues facing this nation.

Only another example of why John McCain should be called out on allowing his campain to run this type of attacks...  

McCain come out and Sid he would not get to the Highest Office in the Land in this manner then 30 days to go and we see he is nothing more than a typical GOP Whip that does what his party does best...
Sure. Keating. All the congressmen involved with Keating were Democrats, so the Democrats, who ruled the committee investigating the problem, needed a Republican to blame. They dragged McCain into the mess, and he was found to have nothing to do with it. That's Democrats for you. Liars, cheats, and thieves.
As someone who lived in Arizona during the S&L scandal, I can tell you McCain was "in bed" with Charles Keating...big time.  It was Keating who, as a buddy of Cindy's father, propelled McCain into Arizona politics (which, oh, by the way, is as corrupt as D.C. politics).  McCain learned corruption at the knee of Charles Keating.  It is no surprise to anyone who knows Arizona politics that McCain is extremely politically corrupt.  As soon as he became the Repubs nominee, I, and many other Arizonians, knew he was not the "maverick" he claims.  That is all a bunch of b.s.  And I think it is clear from how his campaign has gone and is going (south)what a liar and political gain-only jerk he is.  Picking Palin is proof.  Kudos to the Obama campaign for holding out using the Keating 5 until now.  Perfection!!! Can't wait to see the 13 minute documentary Obama has produced on McCain and Keating.  Something I, as a former Arizona resident, have been patiently waiting for.  As they say when any corruption is involved...follow the money.  This trail leads McCain right into the ground and makes McCain and Palin's attacks about Ayers and Rezko look like tiddly-winks!!!!  Now, Obama should make a 13 minute documentary on Palin's church and outrageous religious ties.  This is getting fun!!!

Obama/Biden'08
It seems Palin is now at her most intelligent when playing the role of attack dog (with lipstick and heels by her own admission).  "Hey I'll campaign in Michigan, I'll talk about Ayers and Wright... let me at him!" The best weapoon against Palin is Tina Fey. She can portray the mean but popular girl in high school that Palin is exhibiting right now.  
Can we please fast forward to Election Day?!? I think I'm starting to drown in the mud...glug, glug...
No rhetoric, no hype can become so shrill as to drown out the fact that Bush and McCain have crashed the American economy.
Keating was such a long time ago. I mean, Obama was using illegal drugs back at the time.
All this Ayers stuff is just distraction from a McCain campaign that desperately wants to move this election off the issues.

McCain wants to "turn the page" on the economy so he can talk about Ayers. I'm guessing most Americans are a little more interested in the economy.
I can't believe we have to go through this character assassination by tenuous relationships all over again.

McCain cannot win this game that he's playing.  He was actually a member of the Keating Five - it shows his poor economic stances and proves he's corrupt!  And don't forget about Palin's witch doctor!
McCain's involvement with Charles Keating is relevant to the election as McCain was "palling" around with Keating while Keating was committing crimes.  McCain was rebuked by Congress for his poor judgment in trying to get regulators to back off from investgating Keating.  A key distinction between Ayers and Obama is all the McCain camp has is guilt by association, i.e. Ayers accused of crimes long before Obama met him and therefore Obama must be guilty also.  Does anyone not see this as a McCarty-type attack?
Mccain and Palin has already lost the election. I voted today and the majority of people voting was for Obama, of all races. Mccain lost the race when he changed his moto to the change platform. Young people was really turned off by this. Haven't he heard the phase "he is jocking my style." Palin's voice reminds me of the old south, redneck mentality;people with wife-beaters on and a six-pack of beer in their hands. Where is the pick-up truck with the flag on the back window (you know what flag i'm talking about). She is entertaining, kind of dumb and ready to lead them third grade student to the play ground, that's about all.
The Obama campaign has said repeatedly that they'd go there (to Keating) if McCain insisted on that.  So they have.  It does go to the heart of John McCain's understanding of the economy.  He's repeating the same mistakes in THIS ECONOMIC CRISIS.  Its more than fair to ask "what's changed in John McCain's mind about the banking industry?" Its a much more fair comparison than someone who served on a committee or the pastor of a church and its much more relevant than any guilt by associate strategy.
The fear of Obama winning this election has already started. the dow drops 10,000 points today on news of Obama's lead. Obamas only plan is not hidden anymore.
Destruction US has started

The beginging of the END for the US ! Thanks Obamanuts !
Anyone but obama (Sent Monday, October 06, 2008 11:33 AM)

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Get some help for that condition. I think it is called 'paranoid delusion'.  

On second thought, maybe it is just racist hatred.
The McCain campaign is desperate and unprincipled.

Why would McCain use Sarah Palin to attack Barack Obama about his association with Bill Ayer's behavior almost 40 years ago? Is McCain suggesting that Obama should have vetted Mr. Ayers when they met 12 years ago? As in "hi I'm Barack Obama, were you ever involved in terrorist activities in the 70's?" Since Obama was eight years old and living in Indonesia he would not have known about the Weather Underground at the time. Using that logic Obama would need to vet anybody over 60 before serving on a Board with them.

McCain still has not vetted Sarah Palin. In addition, his vetting of his campaign staff is suspect; otherwise how does he explain having all of those  K street lobbyist on his team.

It is too bad he had to go there, because now Obama has no choice but to fight back. Something which he learned a lot about in Chicago.

This latest McCain stunt should tell the American people all they need to know about his character. That he would rather lose a campaign using slimeball tactics than lose a campaign based on principled arguments.

Obama/Biden
'...was cleared of accused wrongdoing in the Keating 5 scandal -- though he was rebuked by the ethics committee for poor judgment...'

That jsut means he wasn't found in bed with a live boy or a dead girl

McCain wa a PERSONAL friend of Keating
He took REPEATED TRIPS on Keating's private plane
They VACTIONED TOGETHER

Keating was a CROOK who SWINDLED THOUSANDS out of their retirement savings
THIs is McCain's FRIEND, wjho he defended
McCain tried to INTIMIDATE REGULATORS


Character and HONOR, INDEED
To all of you who keep saying that McCain was exonerated:  He was rebuked for poor judgment.  

That is just what we need, McCain in the POTUS office to demonstrate more of the poor judgment that he is famous for.
The first rule of debate is when the other side has no choice but to resort to personal attacks, you have officially won the debate.

McCain has no new ideas and is very much part of the problem. McCain's own cowardice in this campaign has shed his once Teflon coating. Once out of place associations like Keating will come to light.

The difference between McCain's smears and the upcoming Keating attacks (which Obama's campaign warned it would use if the campaign went to a dark place), is that Wright and Ayers attacks will seem like desperate flailing, while Keating is actually relevant to the economy, so Obama can stay on message and still slam McCain's Keating ties.

I'm sure these smears could be avoided if Sen. Obama had agreed to appear with Sen. McCain at any one of the Republican rally townhalls scheduled by the McCain campaign.

http://www.rodneyhopper.com
Does McCain have a "clean bill of health" ????

Is he receiving full benefits from the military because of his post traumatic stress "disability", which is to be expected after being a POW........ (PTSD) is a psychiatric condition ...

What medications is he on? Which antidepressant medicine does he take? Some have been proven to result in erratic, violent, and sometimes even suicidal behavior.......
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antidepressant

Prozac and its cousins, including Paxil and Zoloft, have been linked to suicide and violence in hundreds of patients. ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complex_Post_Traumatic_Stress_Disorder





Can we really afford to elect a president with a "psychiatric condition" such as Post Traumatic Stress Disorder?

WAKE UP AMERICA!
.....it's almost time to vote!
At the end of this race, will McCain be able to live with what he's done to his brand?  Seems completely trashed to me - and definitely self inflickted
"You wanna know how to get Capone? They pull a knife, you pull a gun. He sends one of yours to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue. *That's* the *Chicago* way!" - Jim Malone

http://www.rodneyhopper.com
Keating 5 & Bill Ayers

The difference between associations..........


is that with The Keating 5- McCain is DIRECTLY involved & ACTUALLY faced charges.......

on the other hand.......
Obama didn't even know Ayers was involved in ANYTHING when Obama was only EIGHT YEARS OLD!



One association is NOT simply an association, it's ACTUAL involvement in CRIMINAL activity!

<<The beginging of the END for the US!>>

No, the beginning was in 2000 when Bush got in.  But, of course, you're too blinded to see that.
Obama was 8 years old when Ayers was doing his thing.  He is now a proffeseur.  McCain was 58 with the Keading 5 scandal.  He was lucky he didn't not get sent to prison for his involvement.  Remember that had to do with the economy.  That shows you how McCain handled the economy in the past and how he would handle the economy in the future.  Don't forget the Troopergate investigation with Palin.  She used her position to get someone fired.  She doesn't need more power, like she said in the debate.  I cannot believe that she wants more power than Cheney.  That should scare every american.  If anyone wants to associate Obama with Aires, my response is I will raise you Keading 5 and Troopergate.

Go Obama/Biden
It's always the most guilty that point fingers at everyone else. McCain and Palin are as unethical and crooked as they come! Go away hypocrites!
Is she kidding me! Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones. Were do I start. Not only does she have associations with her controversial church clergy, there is her association with, and her husbands membership in a group of Alaska secessionists. Even Wright did not advocate treason. Then there's McCain's associations. His courting of controversial pastors John Hagee and Rev. Parsley, his Keating 5 involvement in which he took bribes from Charles Keating during the Savings and Loan crisis. There's his wife's own drug problem which she stole from her own charities drug supplies and John aided in the cover-up. What about his association with Phil Grahm who is so out of touch he called us a nation of whiners and said we were in a mental recession. What about his returning from Vietnam to find his wife disabled from a car accident and subsequently has numerous extra marital affairs including with his current wife Cindy.  Associations are just that associations they don't necessarily reflect the person. If they want to go there they should be prepared to deal with the consequences.
Remember to vote Obama supports. If we win and Obama serves two terms, ALOT of old republicans will be dead and we won't have to worry about simpletons voting against stem cell research, a woman's choice, fighting global warming, for endless war, for tax cuts for the extremely weathly, for anti gay bigots, etc etc.

DO IT!!!!
ABOUT TIME.... And don't believe all this bull that he was only remanded to make it fair...
read about this. and remember Neil Bush (the forgotten son) was involved in the SNL scandel when his father George was President...

Sound Familiar....

Think before you vote... Think about ALL of us

OBAMA/BIDEN 08
McCain's campaign Chairman RICK DAVIS has received $2 MILLION form Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac

And let's be clear, HE WAS ON THE TAKE UNTIL AUGUST 2008 !!

He was BEING BRIBED for ACCESS to McCain !!

Let's talk about THAT !!

And maybe even 'Foreclosure Phil' Gramm
McCain's economic advisor
Any day now, McCain will call for an end to all character attacks, and proclaim "I'd rather lose an election than be lowered to gutter politics."
Sarah Palin is like Millie Vanilli - when the telepromter stops, she'll have nothing to say.  Why is this so scary?  Because she doesn't just want to be VP.   She has enough chutzpah to actually believe she can and will be Prez and the sooner the better!  Look out John, she's armed and dangerous!!!
 

If Palin brings up Wright, they should post the video of her having a ritual done in her own church, but an Kenyan revivalist to protect her from witchcraft.  Turn about is fair play, and there is footage to prove it.  
"The fear of Obama winning this election has already started. the dow drops 10,000 points today on news of Obama's lead. Obamas only plan is not hidden anymore.
Destruction US has started

The beginging of the END for the US ! Thanks Obamanuts !" by
Anyone but obama

Your comment proves how misinformed you really are.  The Dow didn't drop 10,000 points it dropped below 10,000.  If the Dow dropped 10,000 points in one day it would be at zero abnd people would be jumping off buildings.

Where is McCain's plan??

And yes the destruction of the US did start a long time ago when Bush locked our futures into an Iraq war to please his Saudi investor friends and Daddy.
First, we are only 5% of the world's population. We better learn to co-exist with the rest of the world. Second, we are living in a financial bubble. We have debt being bought by the Chinese and many other nations. We are selling the rights to our roadways and bridges to foreign interests, because the politicians are revenue hungry. We have national debt of $33,333 for every man, woman and child in America. Are you able to pay that off? For your kids too? Third, this bubble is about to burst. We can't afford to be the world's bully any longer. We are 5% of the world's population and we pretend we can continue to run the world. We are living way beyond our means personally too. Individual debt is through the roof, hence the bankruptcies in the housing sector. We don't save for things we want. We borrow so we can have things now that we haven't earned. Fourth, for the good of the United States, stop the name calling and get serious about the issues. Start learning the facts. If you don't vote for Obama/Biden there will be just more of the same until the bubble bursts and we are in a depression that will make the other look like a tiny financial blip.
With the Dow down yet again, and retirees near panic, and families worried about their mortgage, health care, jobs and the cost of living, oh and the two wars, McCain is awfully arrogant and thick to think we're interested or swayed with his attacks on Obama's character. Obama has a plan and will be a breathe of fresh air. McCain cannot separate himself from the GOP and the Bush admin.
We want substance, talk about the issues!!!

We want substance, talk about the issues!!!

We want substance, talk about the issues!!!
I still say if they had taught birth control in some of these republican schools we just would not have the ignorance and stupidity we see out of so many of them today.
If the Charges were dropped on McBush and the charges were dropped on Ayers what h*ll is the big deal. If this Ayers is such a piece of crap, then why ain't he in the jail cell next to Keating? Ayers is now a professor and he is on some education project too. I am sorry but the Ayers crap was before my time. If he was trying to blow crap up - then he should have been behind bars all of these years.

As for McPalin. If she wants to go there with the church, then she better explain her stupid church. Witchcraft, Alaska will be the last state standing at the end of days. I am sure they got their Obama\Biden voodoo dolls ready..
John Mccain is no war hero. He is a coward for using his POW status to get elected and then stay elected...hero indeed...hrrmmmph
OK - Let's see --
The McCain/Palin camp want to hold Obama's feet to the fire because of AYERS. Obama who was 8 years old at the time of the bombings.  Now ok - I will admit that AYERS at that time was a rebel and took the wrong way to speak out.  However, this country allows people to change and get forgiveness.  Soooo after 30 years AYERS has changed and has been forgiven by soooo many people (excepting the RIGHT of course).  But OBAMA can't be president because of it??
I question their ethics with this one--
McCain--Keating 5.  There was and has been no change in McCain judgement since then.
Palin--Husband belongs to radical association that wants to separated from US and go to CANADA.  No one there has denounced that affiliation.
BUSH--Was a COKE head during college, and an alcoholic. But he changed and asked forgiveness - the supreme court gave him the presidency.
MRS BUSH--Killed someone in a vehicle because she used poor judgement when she was a young adult.  We forgave her all.
CHENEY--shot someone while serving in office - he says it was an accident - we buy it and forgive him.

Now - you neo-cons out there think that the people in this country (who have pretty much had enough of the smears) are not going to come back stronger and vote for OBAMA because you say AYERS was bad 35 years ago!!!

Someone in McCains camp has got to buy a clue sometime soon or the end will come long before NOV!!!
the followin is in response to: <<<DO YOUR RESEARCH MCCAIN WAS CLEARED REGARDING KEATING ISSUES!  OBAMA CAN'T DENY ANY OF HIS TIES TO FAR LEFT EXTREMISTS FRIENDS, BUSINESS ASSOCIATES, DOMESTIC TERRORIST AND PREACHERS!
clh MISSOURI (Sent Monday, October 06, 2008 11:33 AM)

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cIh Missouri!. Obama wasn't charged in anything to have been cleared. Fact. Keating did play a major role in the launch of McCain's career..Ayers held a fundraiser for Obama but it's hardly a drop in the bucket compared to what others have done. So the ALL CAPS doesn't work here.
I will see your total BS and raise you a direct hit - NICE.


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