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Obama camp: McCain health plan 'a disaster'

Posted: Monday, October 06, 2008 3:17 PM by Carrie Dann

From NBC/NJ's Athena Jones

The Obama campaign kept the focus on healthcare Monday, this time seeking to draw attention to an article in today's Wall Street Journal that outlined how John McCain’s proposals would cut funding for Medicare and Medicaid in order to keep his plan budget-neutral.

The Journal reported that McCain would cut Medicare and Medicaid funding by $1.3 trillion dollars over the next decade --  based on estimates by independent analysts -- and use those savings to fund tax credits to help people purchase health coverage. The paper said the campaign had not given a specific figure for the cuts, but did not dispute the analysts' estimate.

Two battleground state surrogates, former Florida Sen. Bob Graham and Pennsylvania Sen. Bob Casey, hosted the call. Both states have large populations of elderly voters.

Medicare and Medicaid serve seniors, the disabled and the poor. Graham said McCain’s plan would be disastrous for the oldest, the poorest and the sickest Americans, and would hurt state budgets.

“This plan would be a disaster. It would cut Medicare and Medicaid by over 20 percent over the next 10 years. It would dramatically reduce quality of health care for older Americans and the poorest and sickest of Americans, while at the same time adding to the burden of state governments,” he said. “Under Medicaid there is  a set of benefits that are legally required of the state to provide. If the federal government reduces its level of support then that is just more of a burden that states – which are already in an extremely overextended basis – will have to pick up.”

Casey said some 2.2 million older Pennsylvanians served by Medicare and 1 million children served by Medicaid would be adversely affected by McCain’s proposal.

“What this health care plan indicates is that John McCain is out of touch with what Americans are going through. People are struggling as they never have before with this economy,” he said. “You have to wonder about what John McCain and his running mate, what their priorities are for America. Privatizing Social Security, gutting Medicare, deregulating health care is not putting country first, it’s putting radical, misguided, reckless ideology ahead of the interests of your country and ahead of the interests of families in America, especially older citizens and very vulnerable Americans.”

Monday’s conference call came on the heels of a weekend during which the senator repeatedly bashed McCain on the stump for health care proposals he said could spell the end of the country’s employer-based health care system and could leave many Americans unable to afford coverage.

Graham said Obama would try to improve the employee-based health care system rather than “blowing it up” as McCain would do, while Casey said McCain’s plan to tax employer-provided health benefits showed he was “not living in the real world” and said he would “like to see John McCain survive without his government-provided health insurance.”

A focus on the economy has helped Obama to gain support in several states and put his rival on the defensive even in solidly Republican states that George Bush won in the last two elections, places like Florida and North Carolina.  Now the Democratic nominee is seeking to expand his discussion of pocketbook issues to health care, arguing that reform of the system is necessary to shore up the economy and help businesses compete.

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I'm just so tired of the Obama fanatics tell us what we can, and what we can't talk about. Listen Obamanuts, the press did absolutely nothing to vet out Obama and his shady past. That leaves it to the candidates to take it upon themselves to do the job. Obama is a product from the Chicago Machine, the most corrupt bunch of pols this country has ever seen. There is a lot of dirt on this Obama character that the press refuses to talk about because they're too busy trying to (unsuccessfully) find stuff on Palin. So quit your whining and for once listen, you might learn something.
Chad Cummings, Ft. Wayne IN (Sent Monday, October 06, 2008 3:15 PM)
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Well you seem to know since you fancy yourself such a smart guy. Please enlighten us? Tell us all about the dirt you have uncovered on Obama. Please tell us about all the awful things and fill us in on where you got your facts.
Why don't you shut up and learn something yourself Chad? Why don't we talk policy? You start. Lay out for me why you support McCain's economic plan for America. Tell me what you like about his foriegn and domestic policies. In fact why cant just one of you ignorant, sarcastic right wingers talk civics just one freakin' time? You blah blah blah all day long about gotcha national enquirer bull s**t. You rattle off sarcastic little one liners with no substance. You guys never ever state one thing about McCain's vision for America's future that you support. Have any one of you actually read his economic and domestic proposals if he were to be President? I have several times and I would be happy to have the conversation with you Chad. You, full moon, Ken and anybody else who wants to join in. Let's start a discussion.

So I'll ask again. Let's start with the economy. The ball is in your court.
After McCain said the fundamentals of our economy were sound, he combated the criticism by explaining he was talking about American workers. Palin continues to use this lame excuse. Every candidate makes mistakes & gaffes, but there is a big difference between putting your foot in your mouth and making a bold statement that demonstrates your inability to connect with the rest of the world. I was a Clinton supporter turned McCain supporter until he selected clueless Palin as his VP. How can you connect with the world when you haven't explored it, when you consider driving to Canada from Alaska "foreign travel."  But I still continued to listen to both GOP candidates hoping they'd convince me I was wrong, that McCain's experience would rescue us. I finally came to my senses. Voting for Obama might be our only chance to lift our nation up again and recover from 8 years of disaster.
As the owner of a small business with 30 employees...

I can assure you that if McCain's health care plan is implemented as written, which is that I as the employer am not allowed to categorize health care costs as a business expense and therefore forces me to both pay the hundreds of thousands of dollars to the insurance companies AND pay taxes on the money I've just spent -I WOULD EITHER HAVE TO LAY OFF 2 OR MORE EMPLOYEES OR STOP OFFERING HEALTH CARE BENEFITS.

Bottom line.

Molly, you can trust
McCain who couldn't be trusted by his first wife? That same McCain who was repudiated for his activity in the Keating 5 scandal which costs American taxpayers $125 billion?
Or, Palin who is currently under investigation?  I mean really, if she had NOTHING to worry about, why stall?
Taxing health insurnace benefits...now slashing Social Security Medicaid and Medicare.
Country First?  I don't think so. Wrong for seniors.
Wrong for young folks needing a job. it's JOBS that we need.
Just plain wrong for the country.
Do you know someone whose insurance company has turned down a legitimate claim.  

If not, you don't know anyone with serious illness.

McCain plan turns over to these very insurance companies your access to health care.  The individual tax payer doesn't get the tax credit.  It goes directly to the insurance companies.

The plan dismatles state regulations and allows the insurance company to exclude anyone from coverage.

It is  windfall for the insurance companies.

Lets cut medicare and medicaid for anyone who votes for the anti american ticket of mccain-palin...they deserve to serve out their later years under a bridge with no healthcare for voting for the reprehensibles
Palin has the nerve to talk about Obama - when she infact is one step away from being a felon. Troopergate, tax evasion, witchcraft.  This is the best John McCain could do????
With information like this, there is no need for the Democrats to "answer" the smear tactics of the Republicans.  

Cut Medicare benefits? There goes Florida - right into the Democrat's pocket.

Cut Medicaid benefits?  There goes the vote of the parents of every disabled child in the United States - right into the Democrat's pocket.

That's okay.  The Democrats have big pockets - - big enough for ALL of us!

Thank God for Senators Obama and Biden.  They are both "classy" men.  Too bad they have to spend time answering inane accusations when what they want to do is help solve the problems of the American people.  

Governor Palin?  You are such a Bible thumping politician - maybe you should read the part about "let (s)he who is without sin throw the first stone".  Senator Obama has a very loose professional association with Ares - you have a very close association with your husband.  He was, after all, a member of the organization that wants Alaska to secede from the United States for 7 years.  Isn't that treason?  You have a somewhat vague association with the same organization.  Or - are you just treasonous by association?  

So do you REALLY want to do there? If I were you, I'd drop those stones rather than throw them.  Otherwise you may get a few thrown right back at you!

Does John McCain receive healthcare at the country's expense?Is the State of Alaska providing prenatal services for Palin's daughter?They've got a lot of nerve..

I'm a life long Republican who is so disgusted with Bush, Cheney and now McCain, Parrot Palin that I will enthusiastically vote for Obama/Biden. McCain would govern by looking in the rearview mirror while Obama will create a vision for the future.
for a guy like McCain who has never paid a dime for his own care to come out with this plan for the rest of us to say the least out rages. where as Obama's plan is to have the same as congress.If they have money for everything else why not med.care
I would suggest anyone on here to try to go out and buy individual health insurance.  Check to see the premiums for your family and then look at the deductibles, the coinsurance, the per-existing conditions, etc.  Also, ask about guaranteed renewals and the max rate increase.  You'll be sorry you did.
States get Medicare and Medicaid on a matching basis, so any cut to Federal money actually means more than a dollar lost in a state's ability to fund services.  Assuming for the moment that 1.3 trillion in true fraud isn't out there (and unless Halliburton is running Medicare programs I doubt it) it means reducing state funding.  So states will either cut the number of people they serve (if they legally can) or have to dramatically increase state revenues (ie higher taxes).  All to pay for a tax credit that at most lets 5 million people on the margins get heatlthbare but won't provide health care to more than 40 million other Americans by the most generous of estimates.  By comparison, Obama doesn't want to cut Medicaid or Medicare, wants us to collectively pay $300 million more and provide health care to as many as 34 million Americans who don't have it now.  Really not a tough choice folks.
After working for 35 years in the health field for an HMO, one of the perks of retiring was health benefits for life paid for by my employer for my spouse and me.  If McCain is elected, I would get a $5000 tax credit to pay for health insurance on health benefits worth about $15000 a year.  Now how does receiving $5000 against my taxes and paying taxes on the other $10000 benefit me?  And should I need to find another insurer, i may not be eligible because of an existing health problem.
  McCain can talk all he wants about his health care plans because as a retired naval officer and incumbent senator he has access to the best health care in the world.  And even if he weren't in the Senate, his wife's wealth assures that he and his family will always be insured.
Get in the real world, McCain, and see how those without are living!

Go Obama-Biden 08
TAXES WILL BE RAISED NO MATTER WHO GETS IN OFFICE.  THE DIFFERENCE IS OBAMA WILL TAX THE WEALTHY MORE THAN THE NON WEALTHY.  MCCAIN WILL TAX EVRY PERSON WHOSE EMPLOYER HELPS TO OFFSET THE COST OF THEIR INSURANCE.
Why would want anyone want a healthcare plan where the paitient can pick any medical services provider anywhere in the country (doctor, labs, hospitals, physical therapy, etc.) such as that provided under Medicare Parts A and B when you can sign up with an HMO that routinely limits you to specific providers and locales while offering to pay its' CEO $1.4 Billion Dollars over a two-year period (United Healthcare)?

If you are Medicare eligible, the United Healthcare Medicare Advantage plan also demands and receives a bonus of somewhere between 7% and 14% over and above what Medicare spends on those who use Medicare Parts A and B.
Remember,
you MUST take one of the candidates who forced you to pay for the Wall Street bailout.
Understand?

"The two parties should be
almost identical, so that
the American people can
'throw the rascals out'
at any election without
leading to any profound or
extensive shifts in policy."
-Carol Quigley


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