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Biden smacks back at McCain on 'luck'

Posted: Monday, October 13, 2008 3:49 PM by Carrie Dann

From NBC/NJ's Mike Memoli

MANCHESTER, NH – As John McCain tried to put some distance between himself and Bush, Joe Biden sought to lump them back together, playing off the Arizona Republican’s speech by saying he’d “double-down on the same risky bet” of the past eight years.

Returning to New Hampshire’s largest city for the first time since his own presidential bid, Biden told a crowd of 900 at Southern New Hampshire University that McCain made an “honest statement” by saying the nation can’t spend four more years “waiting for our luck to change.” And yet, he asked, “What is he proposing differently?”

“When Barack Obama is president we’re not gonna wait for our luck to change,” he said. “We’re gonna change our luck. We’re gonna change this country. In the neighborhood I come from, you make your own luck.”

The Delaware senator echoed some of the economic proposals called for by his running mate today, and said Democrats hope to begin implementing them and others immediately after the election.

“We believe we cannot even wait until January the 20th, when, God willing, we’re sworn in president and vice president,” he said.

Biden said that at the core of every plan Obama has proposed is “jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs.” And in the notoriously tax-averse Granite State, he fought back hard against what he said is one of the “lies of the McCain-Palin campaign” about the tax policy.

“Not one single person making less than $250,000 dollars a year is going to see a single penny increase in their taxes, and 95 percent are going to get a serious tax cut,” he said. “They’re the facts -- 800,000 people here in New Hampshire will get a tax cut.”

Today’s visit was Biden’s second to New Hampshire as his party’s vice presidential nominee. Though he did stump here often as a presidential candidate – about 70 times by one count – he ended up devoting most of his energies to the Iowa caucuses, and dropped out of the race altogether after his poor showing there on January 3rd.

“What have you heard us both say, even when we were competing against each other in this state,” Biden said of he and Obama, “We both have had … unyielding confidence in the grit, determination and patriotism of the American people. Unyielding confidence, so we can get this done.”

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Nicely put, Mr. "future" Vice President. McCain needs to go fishing or something...
Say it is so, Joe!
Middle-class tax cuts and expanded public works projects would go a long way to helping this crisis.
Senator Joe Biden looks exhausted. As he should be; he's working hard. Yet again, a good judgment call by Senator Obama in picking Joe. He's doing a tremendous job out there on the stump.

Now Joe Biden is a guy I would LOVE to have a beer with! (wink)
Sure, go ahead Joe. And lets lump Obama in with Wright, Rezco, Ayers, and Gaines/Johnson from the two F. Macs.

The terrorist William Ayers agrees with Barack Hussein Obama's votes 95% of the time.
Anyone else getting tired of this nit-wit from that scrubby little state of Delaware? He wears thin on you real quick.
You can call Biden and Obama a lot of things. Too bad one of them isn't 'Patriotic'.
I love Biden, not sure why we don't see him being talked about as much as Palin? At least he IS talking about something we want to hear!
If McBush and his trickle down economics works, why in the world is unemployment at record numbers?

Guess those big companies used their profits for yachts and planes, not to hire additional employees!

Joe, you and Barack do have a moral compass!  Being a liberal is a good thing.  LIBERAL = fair, charitable, tolerant.  RIGHT = where the human heart is located!

The Rupukes have NO moral compass = they ignore the rules of ethics!
mccant is bff with BUSH who has hurt AMERICA  more ayers or BUSH?
Hey, Pat - Boston - I'm afraid you'd have to fight donna for him, she has a long time crush - if I recall correctly.

Go Sox!
Joe Biden is running with a man who isn't waiting for 'our luck to change', he's running on smoke and mirrors.  Today, Obama proposed eliminating a tax that DOES NOT EXIST.  

Obama proposed eliminating capital gains taxes on small businesses.  That's a neat trick-there is no such tax, so what is he going to do-enact one, and then repeal it?  Capital gains taxes are levied on stock and real estate that appreciates in value-the tax is paid on the profit when such assets are sold.  There is no capital gains tax on the profits of a small business-there are only income taxes levied on the owners, who file as individuals under the rules of S corporations.

The media, of course, will ignore this blatant falshood, or proof the Obama's ignorance, as is their wont.  The Obama followers will chant it, but it remains another empty promise.

Of course, in Obama world, facts don't matter.
So now we know the truth. Barack Obama and Joe Biden believe in the Americna Dream, up to if you make $250,000 a year. After that, you're the Evil Rich, and you become the enemy.
let's go Joe, Let's go Barack. Get the job done and get this country back on track.
Joe Biden has been terrific! A wise decision and it shows. Palin hasn't laid out any of McCain's policies in her rallies...only stoking hate.
what kills me is that americans intend to believe what they were told without investigating personal themselves..how can you call obama terrorist if  you cant find out yourself the truth..poor judgements americans
LEFT = where the human heart is located!


Call me crazy, but,call me a left winger!
What we have today is not bad luck it is what you should expect after 8 years of incompetent leadership, just like a sports team that does not practice and stay in shape and then loses by 20 points, they made their own bad luck.  When you study hard, don't blame everyone else for whats wrong in the world and look for pragmatic ideas that work you make your own good luck.
Sure, go ahead Joe. And lets lump Obama in with Wright, Rezco, Ayers, and Gaines/Johnson from the two F. Macs.

The terrorist William Ayers agrees with Barack Hussein Obama's votes 95% of the time.

G Nowe, get over it, those types of lies and accusations are not working.
Way to go JB,go get them.HIT THEM HARD,I MEAN REALLY HARD
Governor Palin, please stop masquerading as G Nowe.
And I disagree  with you 98% of the time G Nowe.    See.  Anyone can just pull any figures from the air.  That last sentence of your post really demeans you .  Shame on you .  You should know better !
Can you hear it? Can you see it? the rumble and the wave of all the people walking hand in hand with Obama to the White House!  President Barack Obama! There is no denying the movement that is taking place.
"We're gonna change this country" Into what? A socialist state? God help us if Obama and Biden are elected into office.

Ancient Chinese curse:  May you live in interesting times.
Seriously.. This guy has been in Washington as long as McCain has... therefore he contributed to the problems... He isnt any more credible than McCain... I think we should all sit this election out and demand candidates that actually have done something positive in their lives...
G Nowe must not be able to read or think for herself.
Lets not forget that Joe had a death in the family. That really makes things tough. So kudos to him to keep on working though a difficult time because the pain just doesn´t go away for a long time.
Priceless Joe! If he wasn't so entertaining he'd surely have the Quayle tag already hanging around his neck.  Unfortunately for Team McCain, Joe's gaffes are already priced into current polling.
Here we go Joe, so whatsa whats-the scenario!
You know, a case can be made for dodgy associations by each candidate, Obama included. But don't these clods know they completely subvert their own arguments with the "Hussein" inclusion? Immediately it goes from plausible argument to crackpot racist ranting. The messager affects the message. Noone will take you seriously as long as the knuckleheaded "he shares a weird name with middle eastern dictators" ploy is used. Don't you see that?
I love listening to Joe Biden.  I trust him.  He instills confidence in me.  When he says we can do it, we can solve the problems of our country together, I believe him.  Joe Biden reflects our "average Joe".  
I can’t believe McCain/Palin is still telling that lie about Obama raising tax on the Middle Class!! What I do know is…
He's so lost and Mr. McCain said, with his running mate, Sarah Palin, at his side. “He won’t have the luxury of studying up on the issues before he acts.  Surprise, both he and Sarah Palin will if he refuses to correct his deliberate lies. She doesn’t event know it's un-ethical to ABUSE HER GUBERNATORIAL POWER!
This and other lies are examples McCain is still trying to understand what about the Bush/Cheney failed policies can he continue without appearing to me more of the same.

McCain and Palin start Studying you don’t have time to luxuriate!
Enough of failed Bush/Cheney/ McCain policies
McCain =more of the same.
Nobody but Obama/Biden



I cannot  believe how big of an idiot Obama is. Letting people pull money out of their 401Ks? How stupid is that? Their 401Ks are at the lowest they'll ever be, and Obama is saying "Lock in you loses everyone!!". Anyone that has an iq of 6 or above can figure out that's a really dumb idea. Then Obama wants to stop foreclosures for 3 months. Banks that are tettering on the brink that depend on income from these properties can  expect tonot a see a dime from bad mortgages for another three months? They can't evict the deadbeats, can't sell the property, can't  expect any income. Nice job Barack, now you're destroying the banking industry as well as people's savings.
Please tell me this.... If William Ayres is a terrorist, why is he walking around America free as a bird? Why isn't he in jail?

Just asking?
If anyone out there knows the album "Tommy", the rock opera by The Who, there's a song called "Fiddle About", which is about wicked old Uncle Ernie, and comes at night to "fiddle about" with Tommy, who can't rat on him, because Tommy is deaf, blind and mute.

That's what McCain and the Republicans remind me of. I actually hear that song when I see them on TV. The coutry has had trauma that made it deaf to cries for change, blind to injustice and greed, and stiffled to cry out against it all, since Bush has an ear on your phone. The time of Republican fiddling is coming to an end. The people are speaking again, they are no longer deaf, no longer blind, no longer mute...
What Joe doesn't say is that they are going to let the George Bush tax cuts expire and our taxes with increase without him doing a thing.  We will experience a tax increase, but he will send us a small token amount back on the increase we incurred.  This is very dishonest of Obama and Biden to be mincing words like this with our family's future.
I really like that video linked from drudge. "VIDEO: Liberal Outrage: A Pro-McCain March In Manhattan..."
Guess that was just another case of McCain people sowing the seeds of hate for having the nerve to march in the one party city? You Liberals better climb down off your high Jackass and look in the mirror.
Sure, go ahead Joe. And lets lump Obama in with Wright, Rezco, Ayers, and Gaines/Johnson from the two F. Macs.

The terrorist William Ayers agrees with Barack Hussein Obama's votes 95% of the time.
G Nowe (Sent Monday, October 13, 2008 4:21 PM)

Uh, G. Nowe- Are Rezco, Ayers, Wright, et.al. running for president, and are you by any chance from Alaska?
What I find amazing about the anti-Obama people who are so quick to post garbage here is they cannot share one great plan that McCain has for hardworking Americans! Instead, they spew garbage about Rezco, Ayers, Wright etc.  Come on!  Do you think we give a crap about that if we can't afford to feed our families?  Tell us what McCain is going to do for US and maybe then we will take a second look at him.  There is nothing!  That is the problem - smoke screen to hide the empty shell.
Why is First Read and the media generally giving Palin such a pass on the 12-0 decision of the bipartisan committee in Alaska finding her actions in "Troopergate" unethical?  If a similar body had made such a finding about Biden, wouldn't we be hearing about it?
Jobs! It's all about jobs... trickle down? Give a tax break to the corporations and in today's economy it will be placed into the profit margin... the Republican theory on trickle down is a farce! Tax breaks for jobs... makes sense, not the other way, reduced taxes then maybe more jobs... look at how many companies receiving tax breaks still out sourced jobs or relocated manufacturing jobs to other countries... please, I thought this country was based on earning your keep, talk about double standard... as an Independent I want to see the Middle Class honored and reinstated... perhaps we should consider a "trickle up" theory?
  Let me double down with you Joe, on McCains luck and his two mode's of change:

1).  McCain's first mode of change is to turn the page.
2).  McCain's second mode of change is to change the subject.  I propose a third mode, and that is a two-seat "Key-mode"....with the end result of two cow chips, and I will raise you one McShame, and Sarah, we don't call them hockey puck's here in Colorado, we call them cow chip's, and I will raise you two........
Jobs! It's all about jobs... trickle down? Give a tax break to the corporations and in today's economy it will be placed into the profit margin... the Republican theory on trickle down is a farce! Tax breaks for jobs... makes sense, not the other way, reduced taxes then maybe more jobs... look at how many companies receiving tax breaks still out sourced jobs or relocated manufacturing jobs to other countries... please, I thought this country was based on earning your keep, talk about double standard... as an Independent I want to see the Middle Class honored and reinstated... perhaps we should consider a "trickle up" theory?
For all those who think Obama is an empty suit Arab: Warren Buffet endorses him. You know who Warren Buffet is, right? He's the one Sarah Palin thinks is the Mayor of Margaritaville.

And if you think Obama is an blank resume'ed Arab you probably also think Katie Couric ambushed Sarah Palin when asking her, other than Roe v Wade, what other Supreme COurt decisions have you disagreed with (a question for which Palin had no specific answer). Sorry to say, Palin lovers, that Gov Palin was interviewed, just 3 months before that question was asked, by an AK TV news anchor about the Supreme Court decision that went for Exxon and against the State of Alaska (Exxon Shipping v Baker). She expressed her deep disappointment and disagreement. So, Katie Couric remembered reading that story, lobs Gov Palin a softball, Gov Airhead whiffs on it, and you all think it was an ambush.

Now that is truly pathetic. And you think Barack Obama, Harvard Law grad and President of the Harvard Law Review, is an empty suit. Holy cow.
G Nowe,
William Ayers works for Republicans ORG and his wife endores McCain!
  Let me double down with you Joe, on McCains luck and his two mode's of change:

1).  McCain's first mode of change is to turn the page.
2).  McCain's second mode of change is to change the subject.  I propose a third mode, and that is a two-seat "Key-mode"....with the end result of two cow chips, and I will raise you one McShame, and Sarah, we don't call them hockey puck's here in Colorado, we call them cow chip's, and I will raise you two........
"Sure, go ahead Joe. And lets lump Obama in with Wright, Rezco, Ayers, and Gaines/Johnson from the two F. Macs.

The terrorist William Ayers agrees with Barack Hussein Obama's votes 95% of the time. "

Hey G Nowe, thanks for proving the idiocy of Republican Base.  We've had enough of what your team has to offer, I think we'll give our guys a try for the next 4... or 8... or 12...
Biden just lied again because his tax plan says a "FAMILY" making $250,000 would not see a tax increase a single person must make less than $125,000. He doesn't even know his tax plan and msnbc will not call him on it. It sad that a ordinary person has to point this out!!!!
Obama is correct when he says that the current economic meltdown is nothing more than the final verdict on failed Republican Policies(as well as failed foreign policies)...McCain is a Republican therefore we cannot extend the Republican Agenda...
Obama will navigate the complex and fast-moving changes of the 21st century.  McCain would keep the country on hold.


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