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Biden: The entire country is pro-America

Posted: Friday, October 17, 2008 6:49 PM by Mark Murray
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From NBC/NJ's Mike Memoli
MESILLA, NM -- Biden today accused his Republican counterpart for engaging in the same kind of divisive politics seen in the Bush Administration, saying he has yet to find a part of the country that is not “pro-America.”

Near the end of his speech in an outdoor square here, Biden repeated Palin’s comments from a fundraiser in North Carolina last night, and said he hoped it was “just a slip on her part.”

“Folks, it doesn’t matter where you live, we all love this country,” he said. “One of the reasons why Barack and I are running is that we know how damaging the politics of division that continues to be practiced by the McCain campaign, how damaging this policy of division has been for Americans over the last decade or more.”

Raising his voice, Biden said Americans “are all patriotic, we all love our country.” He added, “And I’m tired. I’m tired, tired, tired, tired of the implications about patriotism."

Biden was referring to Palin's comments last night in North Carolina, where she celebrated campaigning in "pro-America" areas of the country. (That remark prompted the Obama campaign to ask: Which parts of the country aren't pro-America?)

"We believe that the best of America is in these small towns that we get to visit, and in these wonderful little pockets of what I call the real America," Palin said. "Being here with all of you hard-working very patriotic, um, very, um, pro-America areas of this great nation. This is where we find the kindness and the goodness and the courage of everyday Americans."

(Today, Palin responded that she considers the entire country "pro-America." "I was just reinforcing the fact that there, where I was, there’s good patriotic people there in these rallies, so excited about positive change and reform of government that’s coming that they are so appreciative of hearing our message, hearing our plan,” she said. “Not, not any one area of America is more pro-America patriotically than others.")

In his first public event since Wednesday’s debate, Biden also seized on McCain’s comment that night saying he was not George Bush, and said it seems the Arizona senator “doth protest too loudly.”

“My mother when I was a kid -- and you've heard me say this before … she says, ‘Honey, if it looks like a duck, if it quacks like a duck, if it walks like a duck, it's a duck.’ Well ladies and gentlemen, in these last three debates it looked like a duck to me,” he said.

Biden’s visit comes on the eve of the early voting period in New Mexico. And in urging the crowd to take advantage of early voting, he reminded them that John Kerry lost the state in 2004 by the equivalent of four votes in each precinct. He said that while there is "reason to be encouraged" about the Democratic ticket, he cautioned supporters that the election was "far from over."

"This Administration is -- has bequeathed, I think, the tactics of Karl Rove to the McCain [campaign]," he said. "You’re gonna see some pretty, pretty tough stuff, pretty tough stuff in these last two weeks, so we cannot let up."

Introducing Biden, New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson also urged voters to work hard through election day. “I want everybody here early voting, go out and vote now,” he said. “I want you to vote often! I want you to vote many, many times, legally!”

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Well, we're not ALL all that patriotic - apparently the the crazy ticks in Alaska that elected Miss Rhetoric want to secede from the country - that's not all that patriotic.
Joe must have not wanted to mention the folks in Alaska who would like to suceed.  My husband lived there in the sixties, and said that group has always had a following.  If they suceeded, how could they get all that pork Sarah swears she is against?  Oh, I forgot, food for oil.
>>>"We believe that the best of America is in these small towns that we get to visit, and in these wonderful little pockets of what I call the real America," Palin said. "Being here with all of you hard-working very patriotic, um, very, um, pro-America areas of this great nation. This is where we find the kindness and the goodness and the courage of everyday Americans."

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I suppose by "pro-America" she meant the shrinking number of "red" states that the campaign has to work with.  I wonder if she believes Alaska is "pro-America", especially considering her and her husband's involvement in the Alaskan Independence Party.  Come to think of it, is SHE pro-America?

Obama/Biden '08!
http://jawillie.blog.com
Biden needs to stick to three letter words and the constitution, his obvious areas of expertise.
... except of course those folks involved with the Alaskan Independence Party who wish uphold the dream of founder Joe Vogler (yes, another Joe!)and ultimately secede from the union. The method is to infiltrate politics through the cloak of the republican party. Joe Vogler's death still remains a mystery. Start here at wikipedia under Disappearance and Death: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Vogler

Todd was an AIP member from 1995-2002 while married to Sarah. Sarah was non partisan Mayor until 2002. The connection between Todd relinquishing his membership in order for Sarah’s ascension into the political theater is pretty clear. Being a member of the AIP is not a benign act, one favors very specific goals and clearly unpatriotic succession is one of them. This is what happens when a VP is not properly vetted. The cover-up of truth is upon us. Good riddance!

Thanks Joe! Thanks for defending us Democratic Pro Americans, and telling that dingbat wannabe VP how rediculous and hypocritical she is.  She really makes me cringed.
for those citizens in the ten battleground states who are or have or will receive these "robocalls" linking just remember the gop is very very good at playing the shell game con. talk about ayres and not keating, who actually paid almost in its entirety the first political campaign of john mccain's for an arizona congressional seat; or perhaps g. gordon liddy, an unrepentant convicted felon who terrorized the constitution and oliver north who betrayed not only the american people but the presidents they served. these men have actual connections and associations with joe mccain as compared to the ayres loose connection.
Ah yes another part of Palin's fantasy world. Isn't it patriotic to question our country's actions... isn't that what our founding fathers did? But i guess they didnt live in "pro-America" either.
Good job Joe the Senator... I wish democrats would fight more about this pro-American, patriotic, stuff. Republicans wants everyone to believe that you are only patriotic if you are one of them. Let me tell you my friends... that's hogwash. I am a democrat and I have already cast my vote for Barack Obama, and I also voted for John Kerry, and I am as patriotic as any republican. And guess what, I also support the troops and I believe in God.
Having an Obama/Biden Administration could very well be the start of something big for us as a nation. At some point, Americans are going to have to face reality instead of buying into the garbage the Karl Roves of the world have been slinging for years.

It has gotten us no where. Absolutely no where.

An Obama/Biden Administration for me signifies an administration which will put as much thought into putting together a Department of Education as they do a Department of Defense.

It our nation's children we all collectively have to take care of. And we can't do it unless we give every one of them an opportunity at a good education. We owe them that.

This should be our #1 priority, together with the 2 wars we are still engaged in and the economy.
It is sad for women everywhere that McCain chose this woman over all the politician from all the possible choices for his running mate.  On the otherhand... All the more reason to vote for the ticket where the candidate can think and communicate.  Go Obama/Biden
This is just the latest example of her ignorance and stupidity.
Biden: The Entire Country is Pro-American


Well, yeah, except for you commie liberals.
Biden is a great guy... compassionate, honest, and straightforward.... and I really hope that he will be our VP.
McCain&Palin realize that their policy message is not resonating with the voters so they are going to the tried and true message of FEAR! The American voters  worse nightmare will be if these two take over the Oval Office. We need a team that will help all Americans as well as bring back the dignity that the United States used to have in the world. Vote for the team that is for Change not Fear! OBAMA/BIDEN
WHERE IS THE FOLLOWUP ON THE G. GORDON LIDDY STORY?
This was brought up on David Letterman last night!
THE MEDIA SHOULD BE ALL OVER THIS!  THIS SHOULD BE MAKING HEADLINES CONSIDERING WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO DO WITH THE AYERS STORY.

In 1998 Liddy hosted a fundraiser at his house for John McCain's re-election campaign at which guests could have their pictures taken with McCain and Liddy. Over the years, he has made at least four contributions totaling $5,000 to the senator's campaigns -- including $1,000 in 2008.

Last November, McCain went on his radio show. Liddy greeted him as "an old friend," and McCain said "I'm proud of you, I'm proud of your family." "It's always a pleasure for me to come on your program, Gordon, and congratulations on your continued success and adherence to the principles and philosophies that keep our nation great."

For his role in WATERGATE, which he coordinated with Hunt, Liddy was convicted of conspiracy, burglary and illegal wiretapping, and received a 20-year sentence. He served a total of five and half years in prison, including over 100 days in solitary confinement, before his sentence was commuted by President Jimmy Carter.

MCCAIN SAID IN RESPONSE TO THIS THAT HIS ASSOCIATION WITH LIDDY IS OK SINCE LIDDY HAS DONE HIS TIME IN JAIL!  DIDN'T AYERS DO HIS TIME IN JAIL AND IS NOW A PROFESSOR AND PHILANTHROPIST?

WHERE IS THE FAIRNESS TO MEDIA REPRESENTATION?
Biden is talking about divisive politics, yet his friends in the media, and they are his friends, spend most of their time throwing mud and tearing down people like Sara Palin and Joe the Plumber. There's you divisive politics.
Good thing she got a pre-nup. But why doesn't she trust McBush?

Mark Foley(R) (Sent Friday, October 17, 2008 6:46 PM)

eat me raw.

Joe, I'll bet you do love your country; I never questioned your patriotism.

I question the patriotism of the reporters who follow you around.

See, Joe, as dumb as you are, (and, God love ya, you're dumb), they elevate you to Einstein status.  If you were just a LITTLE BIT dumber, and had joined, say, the Republican party, you'd have been torn apart for your gaffes, ignorance of history, plagiarism, and totally idiotic ideas.  You may not have intelligence, Joe, but you are CANNY, and you get that.

No, Joe, my problem is not with you, but with the reporters.  The same reporters who broadcast, far and wide, that someone yelled 'kill him' at a McCain rally; that information was used, I believe, in all innocense, by the candidate it was supposedly aimed at, and is now out there as truth.

Funny thing, Joe, the Secret Service, charged with protecting candidates, reviewed the tapes of the rally, because it is their job.  What they heard, Joe, was TELL him, and they reviewed those tapes over and over.  Just to be sure, they interviewed a lot of people who were there, and NO ONE heard this 'threat'.

So, Joe, I have great reservations about the fourth estate.  See, they spread the false story, and did not disseminate the correct story.

And, I'm sorry, but I find that unpatriotic, and untrue to their journalistic ethics.
McCain and Palin's message on the campaign trail is disgraceful! They are stooping so low they have lost their balance. Their solgan "Country First" what does that mean to them? Trying to divide Americans with words like them and us liberals leftist pro American parts of the country and at the top of the list making slanderist comments about Barack Obama and now the robo phone calls how they (Palin) tries to define who is patrioc and who is not..... it's too much... it is over the top... We need to come together in these difficult times not be divided. It is rather pathetic to resort to these tactics and yes Senator Joe we are all tired tired tired of this shameful and distrubing McCain/Palin campaign! I never really thought McCain would want to win so badly he would lower himself in this manner. He is in every since of the words "politcs as usual" no let me rephrase it's "politics worse than usual:!!!  
In reference to Cindy McCain’s taxes.

The absolute stupidity of the Obama supporters, not to mention how soon they forget.

Laura of Orlando, FL said

Yep, the McCain's feel our pain......

Obviously the idiots supporting Obama don't care to remember how much the Obama's 2007 tax return showed he earned.

Obama's 2007 tax return showed he earned $4,238,165, for those retards out there, that's $4.2 million.

Oh wait how much did Cindy McCain earn in 2007, $4.2 million, well isn't that exactly the same as Obama?

So Laura of Orlando, FL, by your assessment, yep I guess the Obama's feel our pain....




I'm sick of the Republican ticket thinking that they can label anyone left of them as Anti-American. Let's investigate Palin' palling around with the Alaska Sucessionist Party or the speech that McCain gave at an ACORN ralley on video? The media is getting really one sided with the accusations these last days. >:o(
“Folks, it doesn’t matter where you live, we all love this country,” he said. “One of the reasons why Barack and I are running is that we know how damaging the politics of division that continues to be practiced by the McCain campaign, how damaging this policy of division has been for Americans over the last decade or more.”

Thanks, Sen. Biden. This and Barack Obama's vision, character and intellect are why I'm voting Democrat for the first time.

Palin gets scarier by the minute. Her devisive hateful rhetoric is appaling. But rest assured folks, I'm sure McCain calls her promtly after each vile venom strewn rally to vigorously "repudiate" her comments.
The politics of divide and conquer, still going on. The Me first, ideologues are still trying to divide the American people so that they can have business as usual. Don't fall for it this time people.  As long as they can keep us divided and fighting each other they win and we lose.
Gen Powell  will endorse Obama on Sunday.  Reasons
- Fox News is starting to disparage Powell
- Obama is to have a special guest with him next week on the campaign trail
- If Obama campaign had any direction on how an announcement would be made they would go for a talk show to allow Powell to provide his reasoning in a comprehensive way versus just a 30 sec sound bit on the news
This woman is such a pathetic excuse for a vice presidential candidate! She has no integrity and no conscience.

Obama/Biden, '08
This subtle anti-American message being spread by McCain/Palin/RNC by connecting Barack Obama to Ayers is just pathetic!  The latest McCain campaign tactic with the Robocall stating Barack Obama has close ties to a terrorist is disgusting!  Barack Obama was an eight year old kid when Ayers was involved in bombing.  They simply sit on the Board of a non-profit organization founded by the Annenberg Family, who happen to be Republicans.  So I guess the Annenberg's are palling around with terrorists, too!

What's truly anti-American is Sarah Palin taping a speech for the Alaskan Independent Party convention and Todd Palin's membership in the AIP.  Why don't any of the talk show hosts bring this up when McCain staffers go off on their tirades about Obama and his "close association" with Ayers!

McCain/Palin/RNC should be ashamed of how they are conducting themselves in this campaign.  They are giving the rest of the world more reason to dislike the USA.

I can't wait until November 4th when I may proudly say President Barack Obama and Vice President Joe Biden.
half of the country is pro socialist Biden and you will be a part of it.  Your kids will be real proud of you=you make a nice honkie for Obama.
Sarah Palin is the most disgusting politician I have ever seen. She is a disgrace to a great country and if she were elected she would bring American prestige to a lower level than it is now.
The American people deserve better than this irresponsible rabble-rouser, and whatever John McCain may have achieved in his life and career could be erased by his choosing Sarah Palin as his running mate.
YEAH RIGHT BIDEN ALL YOU DEMS ARE SLOBERING AT THE MOUTH SO YOU CAN SPIT ON OUR TROOPS WHEN THEY COME HOME IN DEFEAT IF MR SOCIALIST IS ELECTED. N KOREA AND IRAN ARE GETTING THEIR NUKES READY KNOWING OBAMA WONT DO ANYTHING.
Neo-Con McShame:

  You will be known to the world as "Pimp" McShame.  You just as well put you girl on the corner of easy street and got it made blvd, and have her tell all the John's that drive by, "Hey good looking", you want to have a good time tonight......................because it is the truth........expose your moral value's.........for what it is...............
I wonder if upstate New York (where I live) is considered anti-American?  Our kindness and goodness and courage can't quite match up to Sarah Palin's, but then again, whose do?
Way to go Joe. The hocky mom seems to think she
can say and do whatever she wants and it will fly
because she is "cute" Well, we true Americans
are sick of that phony. unqualified, arrogant
candidate, trying desperately to divide our
country and arouse the radicals.
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!
I don't believe that Palin is in any position to determine who the "best of America" is. Lets not put another closed minded governor into the White House.
I am a 5-year old African American woman who LOVES AMERICA. I have lived through so much covert racism today, but the McCain campaign is bringing it to the forefront.  And yes, McCain seems to approve the blatant racist methods his campaign is using. When does it stop? McCain apologizes, yet the beat goes go – His spokespersons (the lunatic on Chris' show) and his sidekick Palin keep the momentum going.
I am a 5-year old African American woman who LOVES AMERICA. I have lived through so much covert racism today, but the McCain campaign is bringing it to the forefront.  And yes, McCain seems to approve the blatant racist methods his campaign is using. When does it stop? McCain apologizes, yet the beat goes go – His spokespersons (the lunatic on Chris' show) and his sidekick Palin keep the momentum going.
why do Palin "slips" never get any air time? why does no one in the media say anything negative about her? if only there was a left bias in the media....seems like cnn and msnbc go out of their way to not cover stories like this on Television.
Joe Biden is absolutley right!  We are tired of all of this hyperbole being spewed by Palin et al.  It is frightening to hear comments being made by Rep. Michele Bachman to Chris Matthews on Hardball tonight.  She suggested that there are un-American members of Congress... WOW!  Who voted her into office?  I am really worried.  What can we do about these divisive politicians?  I know!  VOTE THEM OUT OF OFFICE AND ELECT INTELLIGENT AMERICANS....  McCarthyism is alive and well in Minnesota, evidently.
THE CURTAIN'S ABOUT TO CLOSE:

If people choose not to vote for a future for themselves or their kids, then so be it. We'll undoubtedly get what we deserve.

It's a shame however that some are so cynical that they're willing to vote on continuing the same failed policies of an incompetent, closed & cut off administration, that's been a constant insult to the intelligence of the American people for another 4 years, rather than stepping out on faith, and moving this Country forward with a Leader {The President of Harvard Law} whose entire adult life has been unequivically dedicated to serving people.

The youth of this Nation are enthusiastically voting for their futures, and it's sad to see that their parents would much rather embrace their fears, and prejudices than to meet their kids half way.

The 'Youth' of this Great Nation are proving more wiser than its 'Elders'.

This Country is about to go in one of two directions.

God forbid Sarah Palin should end up finding herself in the ultimate position of PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!!!

{1 STEP FORWARD, 2 STEPS BACK}
This woman on 'Hardball' just referenced to the remark Michelle Obama made when she said "for the 1st time in her life she felt proud of her Country" , McCain himself is on the records as saying something similar. He said when he was released from captivity he was pround for the 1st time of being American. No one ever states this fact. It is sickening to suggest that Obama is unpatriotic or unamerican because his dad is from Kenya. Hell, we all come from somewhere else, with the exception of the Natives. I guess when white folks are the majority people can get away with such sickening suggestions.

Chris Matthews need to ask the right questions. He's too busy waiting to talk instead of seeing which avenues he needs to go down. This lady he just spoke to is a total idiot.

C'mon guys' earn your pay checks...

Tonight on "HARDBALL with Chris Matthews" Congresswoman Michelle Bachmann of Minnesota equated being a "liberal" with being anti-American, suggesting that Barack Obama was anti-American and suggesting that "liberal" members of Congress such as Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi and Senator Harry Reid of Nevada were of like mind.  She pointed out "liberal" college professors as persons she considered "anti-American".  

Coming from a Minnesota member of Congress such statements are extraordinarily disturbing.  Is she suggesting that the "liberal" former college professer, the late Minnesota U.S. Senator Paul Wellstone was "anti-American".  Is she suggesting that the "liberal" former U.S. Senators and former Vice-Presidents of the United States Walter Mondale and Hubert H. Humphrey were "anti-American".  

The fact that this woman -- a United States Congresswoman -- is appearing on television and questioning the patriotism and Americanism of "liberals" (read: people that disagree with her on political issues) is disgraceful and unworthy of the high office she holds.  Perhaps she is trying to outdo Sarah Palin in the politics of insinuation and smear.  I certainly hope that every person in her congressional district sees her interview with Mr. Matthews and remembers the great "liberal" Americans and fellow Minnesotans that she by implication slandered with her comments.

This character assassination must stop and political leaders must start acting respectfully of their political opponents.  We are all Americans and we all seek the betterment of this country and seek to make it a better place for ourselves and our children.
Somebody talk me down. Are we really going to let the JoeTHEFAKEPLUMBER steal this election from us?  Really. Seriously? The gap is closing why? This guy and that lying W(b)ITCH Pailin.

Say it ain't so. PLEASE...SOMEBODY.
I don't understand why when Senator Obama is linked to Bill Ayers that no mention is ever made of Sarah Palins ties to and the "First Dude's" membership in the Alaskan Independence Party.

If you want to talk Un-American, I'd say this organization would be at the top of that list (see below).   And at the end of the day it would seem that First Dude has a bit more influence and access to Governor Palin at home and at the office, as evidenced by TROOPERGATE.

From the Alaskan Independence Party Website:
"I'm an Alaskan, not an American. I've got no use for America or her damned institutions."
Joe Vogler

This "your only patriotic if you are Republican" narrative is frightening. Chris Matthew's Hardball tonight was a horrific embarrassment on tonight's show. Why does it fail you as journalists to present and be clear about the truth? Chris Matthews let Pat Buchanan play with fire tonight. He was offensive beyond imagination. He had an agenda to hammer Ayers and the Klan and I am ashamed to have witnessed his lack of understanding for the weight of his remarks. Obama has been clear about his relationship with Ayers. He did not start his political career in Ayers living room. This is just GOP talking points that they continue to say over and over and over. That round of neighborhood parties was not for Barack's career but the woman he would eventually replace. It was not an event for Barack. He launched his career at the Ramada Inn.  PLEASE stop this insanity. The woman guest from the Nation on Hardball was right on. You (the media and the GOP) are playing with fire. There is a surge of hate and violence that is occuring all over this nation and unless we are careful with our language we will incite that further. The GOP are using the word "terrorist" to say unAmerican and I fear black. When they say that, they are saying that Obama is not patriotic, one of "us", and is something to fear. Let's stop the madness and be responsible in our use of language and have regard for the facts of the story.
Many of the Boomers believe That the SDS, Black
Panthers and American Indian Movements were Patriotic
and that without their efforts, we would never have reached the societal compromises allowing races to
thrive in this country. I am one that truly
has the notion that these groups were Patriotic.
they loved the USA for what it could become.
The politics of Sarah Pallin are transparent.
the Republicans are transparent. John McCain
sets himself apart as a self defacing patriot,
and uses the emotions of millions of intellectually
deprived Americans to advance his personal causes.
His speeches are echoing the exaltations of the
lips of those with impoverished minds
This woman is a joke, plain and simple.  It is UNpatriotic to suggest that there are parts of America that are 'pro-American'.

I also resent her remarks suggesting that Obama equals socialism.  (Perhaps she should go look the term up.)  He is a Social Democrat - left leaning centrist which is vastly different from a Socialist.

As someone who lived and worked in Alaska for 16 years, and my husband was born and raised there - an Alaska Native of the Haida Nation, I wish the rest of the country could understand a little about Alaskan economics.  They have billions in savings accounts and use the interest on that money to PAY every man, woman and child who lives there a yearly disbursement.  There is no state income tax or state sales tax.  They are rich from oil lease profits (a lot of that drilling is on Federal lands.)  Recently, Gov. Palin imposed a tax hike on the oil companies (similar to Obama's windfall profit tax proposal) and increased the yearly permanent fund dividend by $1200/person, for a total of $3200.  Now I ask you - isn't that a 'redistribution of wealth'?  Alaskans do have to pay more for everything, but wages are considerably higher there and with little or no tax burden, people generally do pretty well living there.  When most states are facing a budget deficit Alaska has millions stashed away and still manages to sneak out several millions of pork barrel projects.  If anything, she has become an embarrassment to her own state because they preferred to keep their economics low-keyed while everyone else suffers.

Thanks for giving me a platform to express myself.
You go Joe!  I too am tired of this 'who is more patriotic' BS.  This is just playing to the lowest information and uneducated voter, who because they are uneducated, have limited opportunity for good job prospects.

Therefore it easier to blame someone who is different, in their pea brains that would be the reason their economic state is low on the totem pole and prejudices are constantly reinforced by the likes of Sarah Palin and John McCain.  

Shame on the McCain campaign, they are trying to make a house divided.   Shame on Sarah Palin for stoking these fires.     I see signs around my own town, people standing on street corners yelling for Palin and MCCain, the same people who yell against illegal aliens.  I am sickened by the hatred and bigotry.

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Isn't Biden the one who said it was patriotic for the wealthy to pay more taxes?  Now he's sick of the implications about patriotism?  The man must be able to unhinge his jaw like a snake to get his foot in there so many times.

And Gov Richardson, each person in this country gets ONE vote.  You vote ONCE in an election.  Not often.  Not many, many times.  And we wonder why people have no faith in our election system and our officials.  
The RNC pulled $15Mil out of McCain's campaign to use for Congressional districts that are close. Those $$'s will be replaced by 527 ads that have been waiting in the wings with a HUGE war-chest (those 527's drive mack trucks through the hole in the  McCain-Feingold Act). This campaign can't get any dirtier... reminds me of the football game in the "Leatherhead" movie... after awhile, can't tell them apart! No reason to watch TV for 2 weeks. I decided after a great deal of independent research into the candidates, their teams, & positions on the issues that affect the strength of our nation. As a retired attorney, the Obama-Biden has my vote.


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