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Will the Real Virginia please stand up?

Posted: Saturday, October 18, 2008 2:50 PM by Carrie Dann

From NBC's Carrie Dann
It's no secret to native Virginians that the parts of the state inside the Washington DC beltway aren't representative of the entire Old Dominion.  That's probably the point that McCain advisor Nancy Pfotenhauer was trying to make when she told NBC's Kevin Corke today that the northern and mostly suburban part of the state doesn't represent "real Virginia."

A resident of one of those VA suburbs, Pfotenhauer acknowledged that recent elections have shown the region growing more Democratic. (John McCain's brother, Joe, recently joked that the area is "communist country." ) 

"But the rest of the state - real Virginia, if you will," Pfotenhauer added, "I think will be very responsive to Senator McCain's message."

When Corke invited her to "climb back off that ledge" from the comment, Pfotenhauer clarified that "Real Virginia, I take to be the part of the state that is more Southern in nature, if you will. Northern Virginia is really metro DC. "

Fairfax and Loudoun counties, just two of the fast-growing northern Virginia suburbs, account for roughly 20% of the state's population, with a combined population close to 1.3 million. 

The Politico reported this week that McCain ran only eight ads during the first three weeks of September in the Washington media market that blankets Northern Virginia. Obama ran 1,342.

Regardless, the whole thing might not be such a morale boost for Republicans cheering on the candidate in nearby Price William county. McCain stumps there this afternoon.

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I guess the real virginia is also the pro-America Virgina.

It is really ashame how these people are trying to win by dividing and conquering.

John McCain do you really care about your legacy?
Real Virginia, places that love america.  The divisive campaign of McCain and Palin needs to end.  There is no Blue America or Red America but the United States of America.  There is no black America or White America or Latino America, but the United States of America.

Obama/Biden '08

My family lives in VA, far away from the northern-VA beltways. I voted for McCain twice in the past...but never again.He has proven to be far more deceitful than a leader.My family will vote Obama all the way. The recent racist program with fake $1 bills with Obama, and watermelons, food stamps, & terror suggestions are more racist than anything in the past. We cannot withstand racism in the WH in th is country. Obama provides a chance at leadership & decency while McCain-Palin provide a dead end of mistrust and no leadership.
How many different people are these morons going to insult before the country sends them all packing. "not real Virginia", "communist country", "pro-America areas", what the hell is wrong with these people.
I'm sorry mrs. Pfotenhauer, but as a native Virginian from prince William County, I take great offence at your divisive insinuation that I, a sweet tea drinking, barbequing virginian that I am somehow not a "real" Virginian.

What is it with your campaign lately that insists that if we do not vote for you, we are not "real," or pro-American? Disgusting.
Pfor Pete's sake Nancy, don't call the pfolks in Northern Virgia pfake citizens.
I like Joe Biden, am sick and tired of the Republicans questioning my patriotism and my Christianity as a Democrat and then putting a secessionist on their ticket.
Obama rally draws 100,000 in Missouri and where's the news coverage. Instead we get the same tired stump speeches and lies from Palin and McCain. Way to go MSNBC
I am sure the real California is here in Republican San Diego and not the Democratic San Francisco. Stop dividing us. The whole of California is real and all of us White, Black and Brown are Pro-America. Wake up people and Vote for the Real Candidate (Obama/Biden).

This is after the nonsense from the MN rep who said liberals are Anti-American. This is coming from a Republican whose party controlled the congress for 10 of 12 years and white house for the last eight and look at where we are. Two wars, economy in shambles, unemployment up, energy prices up, foreclosure up and a president who is clueless.
Joe McCain sounds like a throw back to the McCarthy era. What a jerk. It figures considering how his brother's campaign has been doing things. Northern Virginians should be greatly insulted and demand an apology not just from Joe but John as well.
I think all of VA will see  mc shame for what he realy is, I saw the picture on the WSJ's Page of Obama in MO.. Those folks in MO like me  here in IA arent in the pro americian part of our nation however:I am retired USN and a Disabled Vet. I was in the Navy for the Nam conflict. Mc Same will not help VET's.. He is a Liar. I am An American Fighting Sailor. I live in IA so this does not make me pro American. Tho I am disabled from fighting for this land. I reckon All those folks in this Picture aren't very pro Ameriian either. Palin thinks we live in the non American part of the USA.. Give Em' Hell!!!!

Give Em' Hell CLAIR!!! Gotta love ya Show Me Folks An it looks like you just did!!! Now get out and Vote Walk , Crawl ,Run, Waite in Line  But vote, Idid alreaghity  Dont let this Great man Obama Down WE NEED HIM NOW THE WORLD NEEDS HIM!!!!! Bill A Disabled vet in IA (Not Pro American part of the country)
McCain, “Joe didn’t ask to be famous, but you wanted him to a shiny example of your DISINFORMATION; just like you own terrorist ties, racist, and fascist ideology.

Yet, McCain, you have little guilt or SHAME for these atrocious acts which has/will take US (we the American people) to pre-civil war days. Whenever anyone African American or other ethnic groups complains your camp blames the Obama camp of playing the race card. Did you, McCain forget voters were given provisional ballots under an insidious tactic known as "vote caging," which uses targeted mailings to disenfranchise black voters whose addresses have changed; which your campaign still advoctes as well as purging. Therefore, Acorn allegations is voter registration; unlike  your party’s voter suppression, voter fraud and Diebold machines. Source: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/23638322/block_the_vote/5
America knows who the REAL ENEMIES and cowards are. It’s the McCain/Palin campaign inciting violence and hiding behind your blatant lies; along with Fox News (the real McCain Headquarters).

 Americans want tax cuts that would help struggling, middle-class families get back on track and provide relief during these financially uncertain times.
McCain supported Reagan on tax cuts for the wealthy, abortion and support for the Nicaraguan contras. He sought to slash federal spending on social programs, and he voted twice against campaign-finance reform. Source: http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/make_believe_maverick_the_real_john_mccain/page/7

McCain/ Palin = unlicensed plumbers (Joe the Plumber + Watergate gate CREEP Plumbers) + AIP + = more of the same
No way
No how
No McCain/ Palin
Nobody but Obama/Biden




Puffenfluffer is a joke!!!  She's one of them there Lobbyist we here about.  Meaning shes one of them rich, snarkey lobbyists we hear about, youbetchaya!!

 
First we have the "pro-America" America versus I guess the rest of us who are apprently "Anti-America" in McCain/Palin world and now we have "real" virginias as opposed to what exactly.  

Any American should be deeply offended by this divisive turn the so-called "country first" campaign.  I guess the question now is which country are they referring to.  
Apparently people who are educated and really paying to the issues this year are not part of McCain's Patriotic base.  Please vote Obama and help end the dumbing down of America.
Her "real Virginia" is the old, conservative Virginia that has the strength and richness of tradition. The downside of that tradition is it can be difficult to be open to new ideas. Loyalty to the party has been important, often to the detriment of real examination of issues and candidates.  The painful change brought by the influx of many "outsiders" is forcing many to face a new reality. Some can do it, some can't.
Another example of Republicans trying to divide the country.  (Ex:  The REAL Virginia or the PRO-America parts of our country).  It makes me sick to have them say that there are "pro-America" parts of the country.  Does that mean that Oregon and California are "anti-American" parts of the country.  That is insulting to those of us that love our country!!!  
Yes, that is their  innuendo lately; that if you are a Democrat or Obama supporter, you are somehow unamerican. Palin said yesterday that she was glad to be in a "pro-american "state and some nut job, Congresswoman Michele Bachman from Minnesota, said on Chris Matthews last night that liberal congressmen should be investigated by journalists!! ( suggesting that they do not have America's best interest at heart). These folks are sickening in their divisiveness and I pray that they are sent packing on November 4th.
THE REAL VIRGINIANS PLEASE STAND UP, stand up for your rights, stand up for fairness, stand up for the truth, stand up for someone who believes in you and in your way of making your life better, stand up and stand with the MAN who wants to better your way of life. VOTE OBAMA, STAND UP FOR WOMENS RIGHTS, STAND UP FOR EQUAL PAY, STAND UP FOR HEALTH CARE.

Thumps down to MCCAIN who has to mislead the public and scare them to get votes. Slimy, cheesy McCain and his sidekick Palin, need to go back where they came from and take there scary political views with them.

TIMES ARE CHANGING, AND OBAMA IS MAKING THAT CHANGE HAPPEN, WITH ALL OF OUR HELP, WE CAN STOP THE SAME "OLD GUY" POLITICS!  

STAND UP WITH OBAMA! WALK WITH HIM, WORK WITH HIM AND PUT HIM IN THE WHITE HOUSE.  

 
oh geez, isn't this what got allen in trouble, she didn't call anyone a racial slur also did she? the good ol' lying gop has used the divide and conquer, lie, smear and swiftboat tactics so long, they don't even realize when they are doing it any longer.
It's kind of sad that the Republicans have to label parts of the country that don't ascribe to their philosophy. Comments like "real" and "pro-America" only seek to segregate our nation. Could someone please explain how that is putting "Country First?"
Wow! What a unpatriotic way to segregate our fellow Americans living in Virginia. I wonder if Pfotenhauer still has her Confederate Uniform still at the cleaners. When she is done sewing together her Confederate Flag, and her Confederate Uniform is back from the cleaners. She will be ready for action in her "make believe" Battle of Bullrun. So if people in Viginia that live near the DC area see a lady wearing a Confederate Uniform and carrying a Confederate Flag yelling. "The South shall rise again!" Please call 911 immediately. What a joke!
I take personal offense to my home area being called Communist just because they are polling and registering Democratic. They are sick as sick as the rest of the country of trickle down economics.  We all know that didn't work because they are to greedy at the top. Evidently, they are to selfish to share by playing a little more in taxes, too.
As a former but long-time resident of northern Virginia, I have to say that Pfotenhauer is right, it's not like the rest of the state. But she's really engaging in more of the same race-based politics that characterize McCain's campaign.

McCain thinks thinly veiled racism is the way to get southern votes.  It will get him some, but it will also get him and his party the enduring contempt of millions of southerners.

I love to watch Pfotenhauer...  She is the 'stepford wife' of the GOP...  You can't help but be impressed by her ability to bounce back, time after time, with her foot in her mouth...  Yup, this is the best they've got...
do any of you know why ZERO comments have been posted over at THE NEWS HOLE since SEPTEMBER 25 ???????

is it impossible for one of you to shoot me an e-mail telling me that you have investigated this and have found a legitimate explanation for what happened over there ?????

what is the big mystery ??? how about some answers ?
I live in extreme southwest Va.and have voted in almost every presidential election since 1964. i am glad to see that my vote may count this one time,since va has always gone republican before. the next step should be to elect our president and vice president with popular vote and finally become a real democracy
"Real Virginians" are going to vote for Obama in large numbers and hand McCain/Palin defet on 11/4.

That's just as it should be. Those two individuals are such morons I can't imagine anyone with good sense voting for them. She is a parrot and says whatever the campaigns scripts for her. McCain is a manipulative, maniacal, morally bankrupt, ambitious but not intelligent individual who deserves the spanking he's going to get with his defeat.

That a southern state will have such a defining impact on the outcome is monumental and historians will talk about how the last vestiges of slavery will be removed and the races will come together like never before.

God bless America!

Obama/Biden
They keep trying to divide the country. Maybe they should be drawn and quartered? It not be such a bad idea to let them feel the sting of the tip of a whip. Maybe then they wouldn't be so cruel and hateful?! I fully expect the conservative/republican's to exchange the elephant with so variation of a swastaka. Don't be coy, you know damn well what I'm saying is true! "He doesn't see the nation like 'we' do." "Their not like us." "They don't represent our country of good hard working real americans." I'll bet good money to none that they don't want a civil war here in America again! However by their rhetoric it's sure hard to tell?! Virginia's no exception. There won't be anyone being dragged behind a truck with a chain or young black men being burned alive like that young Marine here in Virginia s few years back! McCain may say he's against that sort of thing (whatever), he sure doesn't appear to be bothered by the racist things eing said about Obama. You know why? Take a guess!
I live in "real" Virginia, have been here since my father retired from the military in 1968.  He was born in Hopewell.  I live on a city street where I can see a homemade sign for McCain that reads "God, guns & glory."  Actually, that one house has 3 or 4 McCain signs.  Three other houses on the block have signs for Obama (campaign design).  Mine is one of them.
The REAL McCain strategy is as crystal clear as the diamonds on a southern bell's neck.
WE AMERICAN PEOPLE WILL NOT BE DIVIDED EVER AGAIN!!!

BLACK, WHITE, BROWN GREEN AND ORANGE!!!

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH TOO MUCH BLOOD HAS BEEN SHED ON ALL

US... WE HAVE SENSE ENOUGH TO LIVE IN THIS COUNTRY

AND BE "UNITED PEOPLE OF AMERICA"
The REAL McCain strategy is as crystal clear as the diamonds on a southern bell's neck.
Some republicans to see the United States differently than you and I do.  
I was watching this when she said it. Between Sarah Palin and her, "real America", quote the other night in NC, to his aides saying thing's such as,'turning the page on the economy', 'were going to lose if we focus on the economy',to this irresponsible quote from one of his most articulate and in my opinon more apt people, he dosent stand much of a chance to pull this thing off. Sen. McCCain...Fire them all and get out of this with at least some honor and cred!
That's probably what she meant? Uh huh.
Real Virginia, Pro America ???? The "BIG TENT" party will be meeting in a phone booth if this keeps going on.
So this is what it's going to be?  Divide the country into "real Americans/Virginians/Carolinians" and "anti-Americans?  Turn Americans against one another, calling each other traitor, all in the name of winning?  This is the final, logical consequence of Rovian politics.   The Boy Genius and his proteges are kids playing with fire. I fear we will all live to regret this.
Kevin Corke really impressed me during this interview, these Mid-day NBC guys have a bunch of talent.

Sounds like Pfotenhauer is lost in the deep past with regards to VA.  We live in Southeast VA and support Obama for President.

Perhaps she has seen Gone With the Wind too many times.

I still do not understand why anyone bothers to put the talking heads from either campaign on TV.  Does anyone believe the BS they spout?
This election will definitely go down in the history books and shed light on these here United States of America. This election has truly shown that we talk the talk but do not walk the walk. Comments by the McCain campaign are beginning to be offensive, but very devisive that we may be losing ground overall when all is said and done November 5, 2008. Pro-American states? Real Virginia? I guess the McCain campaign has not realized that the cowboy mentality has changed our philosophy, but they have truly embraced George Bush's policies. Overall: The McCain campaign carryover so far from the Bush administration: You either with us or against us, Hmmm!!! and you're not George Bush?
How many more groups of people can the McCain campaign denigrate before America gets the message that McCain's campaign seeks to divide this country and fan the flames of hate in a pathetic attempt to win the election.  In their eyes, only their stauch supporters love this country and only their supporters are real patriots.  This is wrong on so many levels.  I hope enough Americans are paying attention to insure that these dishonorable tactics are not successful.
So, when "That One" wins this November, will it be a "real" victory.
Insulting your voters usually works wonders for your vote totals.  Keep up the good job!
Okay, I'll tell all my friends at William & Mary from Fairfax, Loudoun, Prince William, Arlington, and Alexandria to start paying out-of-state tuition.

While they're at it - how about that region stops paying Virginia taxes - watch the Commonwealth GRIND TO A HALT.

No true, self-respecting Virginia politician, regardless of whether they're from Norfolk or Richmond or McLean or Danville actively promotes the notion that there are two Virginias, opposed to one another. If they do, they lose a statewide election (see: George Allen, 2006 - A Fairfax County resident by the way)
Yep.  I'm a native Virginia who lives in rural Central Virginia and works in the state capital.  While I typically vote Democrat, I will DEFINITELY be voting for McCain for President.  I guess I'm one of those simpletons who clings to their guns and religion.  Too bad we can't all be Big City Marxists.
Well... I assume that's because northern Virginia is not one of those "pro-America parts of the country" Sarah Palin talks about? I'm not sure why the Republicans are fighting so hard to win this election when they seem to hate and continue to insult more than half of the people they claim they would be honored to serve as president.
Is she kidding.  I have traveled extensively  thoughout Virginia, as a lawyer, as a state soccer administrator, and as a political activist, and  Northern Virginia is much more like the restof Virginia, Richmond, Hampton Roads, Charlottesville, Williamsburg  et al, than  some  parts like extreme Southwest VA.

Just goes to show how out of touch the MCCain  campaign is.
What a disgrace! I am a Virginian.  I was raised in Alexandria and voted for DOLE!!!  I would not vote for McCain if he paid me now.  NO WAY!!!
If the McCain campaign does not feel good about Prince William County, they will lose Virginia. Obama did not perform well in Southwest Virginia during the primary but that is where he has been investing time and money during the general. His numbers in Virginia have risen because of his improved standing in the southwest. Webb and Warner have thrown their full support behind him. Pfotenhauer is probably referring to the southwest. She is in for a suprise.


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