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McCain goes Bushwhacking in Florida

Posted: Thursday, October 23, 2008 11:15 AM by Carrie Dann


From NBC/NJ's Adam Aigner-Treworgy

ORMOND BEACH, Fla. – After giving a hard-hitting interview to the Washington Times yesterday in which he was stingingly critical of the Bush Administration, McCain continued his offensive today, forcefully calling on the Treasury Department to adopt his plan to purchase distressed mortgages.

“Let’s go out and buy up the bad mortgages and give them a new mortgage at a level they can afford so you can stay in your home so if your neighbor defaults he doesn’t bring down the value of your homes with him,” McCain declared, banging on his podium. “And let's realize the American dream. I call on the administration to act now and buy up these home loan mortgages and keep people in their homes. And why isn’t the secretary of the Treasury ordering them to do that?”

In the past, McCain has expressed the opinion that this administration isn’t doing enough to address the housing crisis, but never as forcefully as today. He has never before so adamantly 'called' on the administration to act more aggressively to address the problem, but on a day when McCain is focusing on small businesses, his criticism became a bit more direct.

This morning’s rally was the second of five stops for McCain today in this crucial I-4 corridor region of Florida on what his campaign is calling the "Joe the Plumber Bus Tour." Continuing his criticism of Biden’s prediction that Obama will be tested early if he’s elected president, McCain also responded this morning to Obama’s recent explanation of his running mate's prediction.

“Yesterday, Senator Obama tried to explain away this warning – by saying that his running mate sometimes engages in rhetorical flourishes," McCain said, laughing to himself. “Really? That’s another way of saying that he accidentally delivered some straight talk to America.”

And McCain ended his critique by asking the crowd of several thousand gathered in the loading dock of a local building materials factory a very pointed question about his opponent’s preparedness: “Are you ready to trust America’s national security to an untested leader in these times of war?”

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McDunce = dishonorable Vet/POW.
Did McCain really say "bring down the value of your homes?"  As in more than one home?  That's a pretty incredible freudian slip, Mr. Nine Houses.  I suspect most home owners (as in the singular noun "home") are indeed worried about their (only) home.
McCain's bigger problem than Bush is his own temperament, and given that, banging on the podium might not be his best tactic.
“Let’s go out and buy up the bad mortgages and give them a new mortgage at a level they can afford so you can stay in your home so if your neighbor defaults he doesn’t bring down the value of your homes with him,” McCain declared, banging on his podium. “And let's realize the American dream. I call on the administration to act now and buy up these home loan mortgages and keep people in their homes. And why isn’t the secretary of the Treasury ordering them to do that?”

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...and Obama's the socialist?
"Bushwhacking"... cute.

McCain simply HAS to go 'Bushwhacking'.  He's tied to the president and has to somehow cut the chord.

Besides, despite my support for Barack Obama, it always makes me smile to see ANOTHER person bashing the Bush administration.

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McCain can't lie and contradict himself enough to win this one. Talk about a man with compromised principles! Or does he really believe that using taxpayer money to buy up mortgages isn't socialism? What an idiot!
McBlinky is all over the place with his proposals and his innuendos about Obama and democratic policy proposals.  He's as shaky in his opinions as he was a lousy pilot who crashed five jets.  How many if any other pilots have ever been allowed that?!  Daddy the admiral must have helped and not cared how much wittle Johnnie was costing the taxpayers.

His buying the mortgages is a joke.  More looking the other way when it comes to the people who caused this breakdown.  Last minute drama and pandering from a guy who would destroy social security and the health care system.
 
In my eyes McCain failed big time in his response to the bailout. So I am not ready to trust him to handle any economice crisis.

It’s very openhanded of Obama to be truthful and have this type of vision for America. What can McCain about his plans?  Heck, he can’t even be truthful about himself needles to say domestic or foreign affairs.

John McCain opposed  to overturn the Supreme Court ruling against Lilly Ledbetter, for whom a bill is named. The Supreme Court had said her pay discrimination claim against a tire company came too late -- decades after she got her first paycheck that was substantially lower than men doing the same job at the same plant. The fact that she had only learned about the pay disparity recently made no difference to the justices:
McCain voted against the children's health care bill then defended Bush's veto of the bill.
McCain 's erratic. He's hotheaded. He loses his temper and he worries me

Tell the truth McCain.
Five myths of John McCain
http://www.rollingstone.com/videos/player/23654789
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/make_believe_maverick_the_real_john_mccain

Do it for the good of the country.

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Sarah Palin is worse for John McCain’s that why McCain’s sinking.
The Culture  vs. economy is not working for Sarah.

A broom next to Sarah's cornhead would have been more appropriate!  

“Joe plumbers” of America who are on the horizon can start with looking at 3 vital sectors of the economy and national infrastructure, transportation, healthcare, and energy.

Sarah before the next levy breaks, the next child is denied access to medical care, or the next opportunity to pursue alternative energy is missed, take a gander at your borrow and spend Chinese agenda!

Palin's wants to be more than vice president; she wants legislative power. Sarah Palin would be more dangerous than Cheney as vice president because she’s corrupt and doesn’t know what she is doing.
Tell the truth, Sarah about these things…
You’re not working-class
You have assets to be desired; a half-million-dollar home on a lake with a floatplane at the dock.
Two vacation retreats
Commercial fishing rights worth an estimated $50,000 or more (an income like that last year of at least $230,000 compares to a median income of $64,333 for Alaskans and $50,740 for Americans).

Palins' tax records reveal the Alaskan first family used a variety of imaginative loopholes to get out of paying much of their taxes.

Sarah has a lawsuit AGAINST FURTHER PROTECTION OF POLAR BEARS so as not to hinder oil drilling in Alaska's ice-filled waters e.g.  her links to the oil companies’ lobbyist. Governor Palin has waged a deceptive, dangerous, and costly battle against the polar bear," Kieran Suckling, the center’s director, she even received a rubber dodo award from The Centre for Biological Diversity. Sarah “Moose head” Palin is suing Alaska because it opposed the endangered label partly because the listing would "deter activities such as … oil and gas exploration and development". Oil companies recently bid $2.7bn for rights to explore the Chuckchi Sea, an established polar bear habitat.  The threatened species status might also impede the building of an Alaskan natural gas pipeline. Source:  Guardian.co.uk

Palin’s foreign policy experience is on a par with cursory or ceremonial experience that would include about 20 meetings, events, or phone calls in which Palin interacted with foreign officials; which did not involve policy details.   She never met with a Russian official. Source: Mother Jones magazine.


Peace
With Mccain/Palin, The Worst Is Yet To Come. You get what you got with McCain/Palin; literally!


No McCain/ Palin
Nobody but Obama/Biden

First Read,
Where is the story on McCain’s black relatives in Mississippi?  

You would think if he is so culturally diverse he would jump on the opportunity to salvage some sense of dignity in race relations.  

As it appears, many white McCain’s are visiting with their black family members at reunions, etc…why is John “Sidekick” McCain different?  

Maybe since he has been race baiting this election, it won’t fit his defined personality and campaign message or JUST MAYBE his black family DON’T fit his “Pro-American” stance of WHO’S WHO in the Good Ole’ US of A!  

Well this may not be as imporant as talking about the economy, but neither is McCain bringing up Biden's remarks.
Why does John McCain have totally different positions today than he had 8 years ago?

Why is John McCain going to tax health care benefits?

Who is going to finally explain to Sarah Palin what the Vice President does?

Why are 40% of Americans unwilling to change direction even though they see we are heading over a cliff?
Sure, lets buy all the bad mortgages, so the rest of us can pay for them.  It would be the tax payers people who would end up paying for these mortgages. I am not going to take responsibility for these.  McCain is pandering again, and again, and again.  Desperation at it's worst. If people buy this crap, then find out the truth, no wonder they ending up foreclosing!!!

Obama/Biden 08/12  
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That's what I like about this board. It brings out the intelligent liberals.
Smartacres, California
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You should have called me an open minded American
BJ, CA (Sent Thursday, October 23, 2008 9:44 AM)

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Liberals get the "open minded" tag because of the gentle breeze blowing through their ears.
It's too late for that Mcbush! You can't have it both ways! A vote for Obama/Biden is the *only* way to go at this point.
For someone who voted for George W Bush's policies 90% of the time over the past 8 years, and then now attacks Bush as if he had never supported those same policies that facilitated the disastrous financial situation we're in now is simply UNBELIVABLE! Do you really think the American people are so stupid that we don't remember your supporting Bush? Dream on, McCain, dream on.
I would like someone to please explain just how McCain has been "tested". When and how was he ever in "charge" making the big decisions and absorbing all of the stress in ANY difficult situation??

The biggest challenge McCain has ever faced that he was in "charge" of is his current campaign and we all see just how well he is handling the pressure and the awful choices he is making.

Someone please question this man on how he has been tested. Thank you.
Does Colin Powell ever get used to always being wrong?
Palin should release her records as soon as Obama releases his.  double-standards abound.
McCain's mortgage plan is socialism!  Why should I have to pay with my hard earned tax dollars other people's bad mortgages, because they were stupid enought to get mortgages they could not afford?  That's a hallmark of spreading the wealth, and therefore, by McCain's own definition, SOCIALISM!!!

McCain is a big fat socialist!  Go back to Cuba!
I firmly believe that if McCain had of just stayed at home for the past 8 weeks and not uttered a sound, we would have  one hell of a fight for POTUS!!
McCain's campaign strategist are complete freaking morans!!! Obama team? outstanding!
Last but not least the media as a whole, f--king sucks! thanks for nothing.....
Stuck between a rock and a hard place and completly undecided!
I like John McCain because he's a maverick, and he saved us from Cuba, he can save us from the terrorists.
No amount of bushwhacking is going to help the bushwhacker's sidekick from escaping the shadow of impending election doom.

Here locally The Monterey Herald had an article in it yesterday about a Mr. Diamond who got a sweetheart land deal as Fort Ord was mostly closed down with a lot of help from McCain.  Back in the 90's Mr. Diamond got a parcel of federal land valued at $7.2 million back then for a mere $250,000.  Mr. Diamond was a big supporter of McCain's Senate campaigns and McCain repaid his pal by getting him a sweetheart land deal that cost the federal government lost revenue had the land been sold for the real value.

Go Obama/Biden 08/12!
And who's the socialist ??????
If only McCain had started his campaign by distancing himself from Bush. Perhaps then the Republicans would have a chance at winning. However, when a man votes 90% of the time with the current administration, he doesn't stand a chance.

http://lastofourkind.blogspot.com
And McCain ended his critique by asking the crowd of several thousand gathered in the loading dock of a local building materials factory a very pointed question about his opponent’s preparedness: “Are you ready to trust America’s national security to an untested leader in these times of war?”


I AM!
A registered Republican for Obama/Biden
>>>“Let’s go out and buy up the bad mortgages and give them a new mortgage at a level they can afford so you can stay in your home so if your neighbor defaults he doesn’t bring down the value of your homes with him,” McCain declared, banging on his podium. “And let's realize the American dream. I call on the administration to act now and buy up these home loan mortgages and keep people in their homes. And why isn’t the secretary of the Treasury ordering them to do that?”

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Ok, maybe I missed a memo or something, but exactly WHERE does McCain plan to get the money to buy up all of the bad (ill advised) mortgages?  And is it just me, or does this sound a bit...uh, er...what's the word I'm looking for...oh yeah, SOCIALIST?

Obama/Biden '08!
http://jawillie.blog.com
Look, I wasn't lying when I said a few years ago that I wouldn't run for President of the United States in '08. I, ummmmmmmmmthink it's pretty obvious to everyone thaaat I'm running for PresidentoftheWorld. Now, there will be some who say, ummmmm"He's got a funny name, ummmmmmmmand he looks different." But III'm here totellyou that those folks are racist capitalists clinging to their religion and guns.

I'm Barack Obama and I approve this message.
When was McCain tested ???? I know about his Vietnam service --- and do value it but it's not the same as dealing with a national emergency.

Perhaps he means dealing with an ethics investigation ?
Hillary stumping for Stuart Smalley. Now that is funny. Not enough loons on the Democratic side of the Senate Hillary? Need some more? You'd think Chuck U Schumer, Turbin Durbin, Robert kkkByrd, those two nuts from California, and Hairless Reid would be enough. An absolute freak of nature show.
“Let’s go out and buy up the bad mortgages and give them a new mortgage at a level they can afford so you can stay in your home so if your neighbor defaults he doesn’t bring down the value of your homes with him,” McCain declared, banging on his podium. “And let's realize the American dream. I call on the administration to act now and buy up these home loan mortgages and keep people in their homes. And why isn’t the secretary of the Treasury ordering them to do that?”

Darn socialist. Oh wait, McCain said that. Darn undercover socialist. The Rebpulican party just doesn't know what it wants to be anymore.

And how is this not socialism?
The Obama Trauma put his fat little foot in his mouth when he talked with Joe the Plumber and let that lettle phrase "we're gonna spread the wealth" escape his crooked little mouth.

Guess who's gonna get a piece of my hard-earned bucks ... his brethern in race and ACORN. There is a strong agenda working here and either you're in it or just easily led.
Buying up bad mortgages and renegotiating at better rates?
Nationalizing banks? All because these people failed at capitalism?

And then they call Obama Socialist because he wants a 3% tax bump at the highest marginal rate?

News flash for you McCain- taxation is not socialist.

If republicans would just stick to their stated economic platform- lower taxes and less government, they might actually stand a chance.

I guess they are fortunate that we have been so dumbed down as a country that their current rhetoric is actually taken seriously.
[[McCain declared, banging on his podium.]]

Which drew a response from Billy C., "Hey, I did that a lot too!"
As a faltering politician once sai, "If he wanted to run against Georhe Bush, he should have run 4 years ago!"
Isn't buying up all those bag mortgages a form of "socialism", John? Isn't paying $100,000 for Palin's wardrobe a form of "socialism", John? Isn't the entire $700 billion bailout (you voted for) a form of "sociaism", John? Aren't Medicare, Social Security and the GI Bill forms of "socailism", John? See how ridiculous your "Obama's a socialist" label is becoming, John? Nobody's buying it.  Obama/Biden '08/'12
Bush really wasn't so bad as a president. I think McCain has good ideas. It's getting harder and harder for me to decide, now that I really think about.
Poor ole Uncle Fester, the lightbulb's dimming & NOBODY wants to brighten him up.

Delusional Thinking By Commonsense American's Is Over !
" I call on the administration to act now and buy up these home loan mortgages and keep people in their homes. And why isn’t the secretary of the Treasury ordering them to do that?”
Just a question - but how would this work. How do you decide which mortgages to buy.  I do not necessarily see this as a bad plan I just question how you implement the plan.  If the government is going to buy loan mortgages where is the incentive for the struggling home owners?  If you are current but really having a hard time why would you continue to pay your mortgage?  I am not asking for Rep or Dem talking points I just do not know the answer....
Anchorage Daily News:    

  "Long before he was "Joe the plumber," Joe Wurzelbacher lived in North Pole and Eielson Air Force Base, according to Alaska public records. A family member says Wurzelbacher came to the state in the mid-1990s and stayed about four years — long enough to have the son who can be seen standing next to him in the now famous YouTube clip  of Wurzelbacher grilling Sen. Barack Obama about taxes.

   Kelly Morrison watched the debate with her husband in Midtown Anchorage. As the candidates sparred over someone named Joe the plumber, her husband kept telling Morrison that it had to be the Joe they know.

   Morrison’s sister, Jennifer, is Wurzelbacher’s ex-wife. They’ve known him for years. At one point, Joe worked as Morrison’s plumber when they both lived in ARIZONA.

   Then someone on TV said Joe’s last name.

   “I’m like, 'That’s Joe!’ And (my husband) said, 'I’ve been trying to tell you that the whole time,” Morrison said.

   Alaska records show Wurzelbacher listed a North Pole address in 1992 and 1993, and Eielson Air Force Base address in ’94 and ’95. He applied for hunting permits, owned an old Ford and a new Dodge, and paid a $76 fine in Fairbanks court for speeding.

   It was unclear Thursday afternoon whether Wurzelbacher registered to vote while living in Alaska, and if so with which party, Division of Elections Director Gail Fenumiai wrote in an e-mail.

   Wurzelbacher’s son was born in the Fairbanks area in 1995, Morrison said..."


Anchorage Daily News: http://community.adn.com/adn/node/132881
i'll trust Obama to stand cool, calm, and thoughtful through crises that may occur.  i trust McCain to flop around screaming and yelling and blaming everyone but himself for situations that would occur.

and how is the treasury buying up bad mortgages, paid for by the taxpayers, and refinancing them going to help John?  just another pander to gain votes on a plan that isn't well though out. you're more like Bush than you admit...

it is time we had a president smarter than us.  idiots ruling has left us in a deep pile of manure, and the stench is suffocating.  

here is an idea Mr. Maverick Reformer: Lets have a new law passed that all congressional, senatorial, and government officials who are caught and found guilty in any sort of corruption scandal are shot as traitors to the American public they are supposed to be serving.  How about that John? We can start by executing your entire campaign staff and VP, and you get off the hook because we won't retroactivate it for the Keating 5 scandal...

That is how to reform our government.  make the penalty not worth the crime.  McCain, the corrupt reformer, what a hypocrite.
McCain would have taxpayers take the hit on renegotiated mortgages.  What about the lenders?  Shouldn't they have a stake in this mess?
This is OUTRAGEOUS, Why is MSNBC showing a picture of Obama in the background as Contessa is talking about Ft Dix Terror Plot and Muslim extremists.
I'm confused. How is it that Obama is a socialist, but taking my tax dollars and essentially giving them to someone who bought a house they couldn't afford isn't socialistic?

It is taking money from those who have (a house) and giving it to those who don't.
McCain, what happens to home values after you buy the bad mortgage at a depressed price? Will the homeowner be able to turn around and sell the house for a profit? What happens to home values after he sells the house at a depressed price after you buy the mortgage? What guarantees do we have that the buyer with nothing to lose will not just walk away as is already happening? You can throw a drowning man a rope, but he still has to get out of the water.


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