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Biden compares 'John McLane' to Bush

Posted: Thursday, October 23, 2008 1:19 PM by Mark Murray
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From NBC's Mike Memoli

CHARLOTTE, N.C. -- This is one comparison John McCain won’t mind.

As Biden tried to tie McCain to President Bush this morning, he slipped and referred the Republican nominee as “John McLane." He immediately recognized the mistake, and tried to roll with it.

“I don’t recognize him anymore. I used to know him well,” he said, before acknowledging it was “a bad joke.” The crowd laughed politely, anyway.

All kidding aside, as Biden would say, he continued on, saying that in the course of this campaign the American people have seen that there is “not one fundamental economic issue” where McCain and the president disagree.

“I know we’re not running against George Bush,” he said. “But we are running against the very economic policies John McCain is promising to continue to push forward.” And borrowing what he said was one of his mother’s expressions, he joked: “If it walks like a duck, if it looks like a duck and it quacks like a duck, it’s a duck! … John McCain and Sarah Palin are quacking like George Bush!”

At the first of three events in the Tar Heel State, Biden also attempted to incorporate some NASCAR lingo into his stump, though the lines mostly fell flat to the crowd at UNC-Charlotte’s Halton Arena.

“Right now, our campaigns are trading a little paint. But what worries me most is the McCain campaign seems to have gotten a little loose,” he said, to only scattered laughs. “Not a lot of NASCAR fans in here,” he conceded. “John's getting a little loose. He doesn't have much of a steady hand these days. And now, and now's the time, now's the time we most need a steady hand.”

Republicans tried to do one better. “To offer a more accurate NASCAR analogy than Biden did: If Obama wins, he will raise taxes and our economy will go from a yellow to red flag,” RNC spokesperson Alex Conant said in a statement.

Biden has two more opportunities to test his NASCAR lines on Tar Heel crowds, with stops later today in Winston-Salem and Raleigh.

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Funny! During the course of all that speaking I don't know how they remember their OWN names. Still not as funny as McCain trying to repeat Obama's words then saying "I couldn't agree with him more" and then trying to get back out of THAT. We should thank them that there is any levity at all during these scary times.
MSNBC is the most Biased Media Site In History

MSNBC Politics has this cool thing that lets you predict the electoral college on how you think it will play out on Nov 4th.  Just for kicks...I filled out the entire thing for Obama and the entire thing 100% for McCain...Obama gets 538...McCain gets 535

No clue how to change over those other 3 votes as the the entire map is red and I can't click anywhere else...I even took screen shots to show it...seems to me they are being very biased not even allowing McCain to start out at -3

Just an observation I thought they would want to correct
I would vote for John Mclain in a heartbeat. We've got to be tough on those European bank robbers.
Last night, when McCain and Palin were being interviewed, McStupid called Bidden O'Bidden, two or three times.
<<"If Obama wins ... our economy will go from a yellow to red flag.">>

As opposed to a McCain win, which would be more akin to a 15-car pileup, complete with explosions and burning wreckage.
Give em' H-E- (double hockey sticks) Joe!
OK, so every slip of the tongue is now a story?

Then again, I guess "Yippee ki-yay, m*****f***er!" might be an appropriate slogan for McCain's Final Days.
I love Joe, but he has to tighten up and stay on top of the game. McCain is already trying his best to hurt us with that other Joe ( the Plumber.)
That duck analogy is a good one. Try as he may to distance himself from bush, that haunting clip of him saying he voted with the president over 90 % of the time will be his undoing. Don't let up, barack! Keep the geezer on the ropes!
I don;t think anyone recognizes John McCain anymore. Every day he is someone else.

http://lastofourkind.blogspot.com
In the last week there have been gaffes from all quarters.  Too many to list.  Personally, I think the candidates are getting tired. They see the finish line 12 days away. Getting slap-happy can happen.  Unless it is a major, true-blue dumb (Michelle Backmann type statement), it's time to cut them some slack.  Sometimes I get tired just listening to them.
Are you sure he didnt say John McLame?
Back in 2000, "Joe the Plumber" lost his driver's license in Arizona. He never paid his fines and owes over $700 to the Mesa Municipal Court. He failed to stop at a red light and failed to provide proper insurance.
Good role model you're using John and Sarah. Hey, maybe you can pay his unpaid fines.
please update post from this morning, why are you not at least trying to keep up. you must have many more post please look at them BTW Joe Biden is a +
for Obama while mrs needless markup is just a toxic waste flash in the pan.
We love Joe and Obama here in North Carolina!  The lines to vote here for early voting are long as many young people are excited to vote for the first time for President.  We will be so excited to see NC turn blue this year!!
I think he meant McLame.
Sigh....I can't wait for Nov. 4th so all this micro-analyzing can, hopefully, come to an end.  It's been absolutely 24/7 for weeks now and I can only imagine how exhausted they are!  Hell, I say crazy, mixed-up stuff at the end of one day (which  my own personal media, my kids, are sooo quick to pick up on!)  Anyways, can we just back off, stick to the issues, and get to Election Day.

Mere slip of the tongue. Obviously what Biden meant to say was McLame.

I also heard Palin quacking in Troy, Ohio today. Unbearable. Absolutely unbearable. In all sincerity, why does she sound like she is speaking to 3rd graders? She is an oddity for sure.





lol, its true, mccain in florida saying he's against bush policy, hows that when he vote with over 90% of the time, and still at it with this stupid "joe the plumber", mcbush is lost, i watch the whole clip with obama talking to phony joe, and obama said it like he always does about tax cuts that anyone who makes under 250k. mcloser is done, stick a fork in him!

GO OBAMA-BIDEN 08&12
John McClain was a very good friend of mine.  I would vote for him in a heartbeat.  I wonder whatever happened to him.  John - you out there?  I do know The John McClain that I know would never buy into the constant barrage of lies coming from the Republican party.  They are a disgrace to America.
No Joe you're right....John McLane Die Hard was a movie character.  Movie characters survive reckless, stupid errors and rowdy bravado, real people don't.

The Make Believe Maverick, old blinky, would be as dangerous in the presidency as an eight year old brat with a hand grenade.  Add to that a completely unqualified vp candidate and you've got a disaster.

This navy vet who served in many of the same years as the admirals boy is voting for Obama.
What the heck is this "Messenger of Misinformation" from the McCain-Palin Campaign spewing out now! A much more accurate NASCAR analogy is that our economy is already under the red flag. Stop sniffing the stock car fumes again, and notice that cars of our economy are crashing all over the track! The McCain/Bush economic car crashed a long time ago, and is still on fire! The Obama-Biden car is doing just great, and picking up speed on the straight away toward the higher turns of success for all the American People. Heck! The McCain-Palin Pit crew is so frustrated that they ran out of tires to put on  "Straight Talk Express." You got McCain stumbling around the pit area! Palin is still trying to figure out how to read a tire gauge, and figure why her fancy clothes keep catching on fire. Now these are much more accurate NASCAR analogies for you son!
MSNBC is the most Biased Media Site In History

MSNBC Politics has this cool thing that lets you predict the electoral college on how you think it will play out on Nov 4th.  Just for kicks...I filled out the entire thing for Obama and the entire thing 100% for McCain...Obama gets 538...McCain gets 535

No clue how to change over those other 3 votes as the the entire map is red and I can't click anywhere else...I even took screen shots to show it...seems to me they are being very biased not even allowing McCain to start out at -3

Just an observation I thought they would want to correct
John, MI
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I am guessing you missed Washington DC. The get 3 electoral votes. Everyone else gets the number of congressman/senators the state has and that is how you come up with 538...
I thought it was MUCH more funny to watch the looping of the McCain campaign rally where McCain was saying "can't not" but slurring it to end up saying "c*nt" over and over.

But then, McCain uses that word for his wife, so maybe he was just talking TO her and not ABOUT Obama/Biden.

Um... that was on MSNBC repeatedly. And Biden *did* say "excuse me" and then "McCain" (which you wouldn't know from this headline, FR)

Honestly... don't you get enough readership that you don't have to resort to fake headlines? But of course... moderation means you never have to post comments you don't like, huh?


I am wondering Why is it ok for the media to go digging through Joe the plumbers life? He is just a citizen who asked a question.  He isn’t running for anything. I see on this board people cheer this activity like yeah go get him how dare him he’s a McCain plant. I don’t care if he was John McCain’s mother the media has no right to do what they are doing. I think it is vary dangerous if we silence opinion through intimidation.
Joe Biden was giving it to Johnny to stop these awful robocalls.  Johnny deserves to be called much worse than "John McLane".  
I think Joe meant to say John McLame.As in his sorry attempt to run a respectable campaign,like he said he would.Now Joe may not be on top of the NASCAR set but I for one can see the big one happening soon.Bomber has been running on his worn out rubber and the heat and slick track have taken it's toll and he still refuses to pit.His team mate has been driving like a mad dog to make up all the laps she is now down, you see there set-up wasn't very good right off the trailer.And the boys are now scratching there heads trying to find the right combo.She has a bad shock package,her springs are to stiff,the track bar will need to be raised and the tire pressure  lowered.I can see these two causing the big one,kind of like cousin Carl did a few weeks ago. Zoom.Zoom                      
To the person saying, "they won't even allow me to set all of them to McCain"....thats because DC is too small to click on there to change it....the pointer doesn't recognize it being between VA and MD because its so small......and therefore you cannot change it from the blue setting....leaving you unable to give its 3 EVs to mccain......hope that helps you stop crying
All the canidates are looking worn out, you know how you feel after just one flight to anywhere, imagine that times all the traveling all have done recently. I anticipate a lot more speaking mishaps between now and Nov 4. Coupled with the losing factor and a feeling of the sky is falling will prove more so for the McPalin side. At least they should have time for a long rest after the campaign.
The extra three for Obama are for DC, which has no chance of going Republican seeing as it has consistently voted around 90% for the Democrat.
i guess he forgot that DC is allowed 3 votes.....republicans dont like allowing liberals their fare share of representation so it wouldnt suprise me....or he was just too slow to realize it
Biden screws up again and again and gets away with it. The guy needs another medical check-up.

The jackel is still loose. I wonder if the moderators will catch it.
Biden has completely lost his mind. The only people left to follow him seems to be left wingnut liberals. That's because Joe reminds them so much of themselves.
Is it November 4th yet?  I am so tired so I am sure Obama and Biden are tired too. I am also tired of listening to Mccrap and McWalinPalin.
McCain should be thrilled about this one...being compared to Bruce Willis' John McClane character in Die Hard! I dunno how Bruce feels about it, though...
Watch Bruce Willis come out to support McCain now after this.  
If god forbid Obama wins, on Joe's final day in the senate, McCain should just kick Biden's butt all around the Senate floor. Biden is an embarassment to both himself and the country. Joe, when you've dug yourself into hole, stop digging!!
This is a bad year for Republicans. Anything they tried originally turned against them. Anything they copy from the Democrats, they messed it up. Can’t cram, can’t copy, and can’t think. Mccain is too old to remember his thoughts, Palin has no basic knowledge on issues to address them past the

1 - McCain accused Obama of being a celebrity, tried to copy him with Palin, with the ideas of hockey mom, soccer mom but overdressed her for $150000 (regular hockey/soccer bought things at Wallmart, kohls, Ross, Belk, etc). Such contrast along with Palin’s obvious weaknesses did not help Mccain at all.

2 - McCain accused Obama of being a terrorist and that did stay with his base and probably sticks at the rally level. Ask Rep. Michele Bachmann, the Republican gentlelady from Minnesota..She is paying the price right now and that is probably the end of her career…from Michele the congresswoman to “Michele the less than $75,000 a year”. She needs Obama tax Plan now more than ever.

3 - McCain used the “Joe the plumber” % vetting “fake astute” and gets real small businesses to realize that “small Business owner” will hope to make 250000 or more a year for the rest of their lives and pay more taxes. They do not care paying more taxes as long as the middle class is doing well and asking more and more of their products. Do you think Bill Gates (microsoft) is worrying now about paying more taxes. He is happy to hear that more middle class folks will be able to afford a computer for their kids using that extra money. The more computers that are sold, the more money to Microsoft. “Joe the Plumber” is making now 40000 a year and it was above his pay grade to understand if he ever owes a business making 250000 a year and more folks (middle class) is his neighborhood have seen their buying power increasing due to tax break, and a rescued economy from team Obama-Biden, that is more people asking Joe to come to do plumbing work for them. Joe missed that and listening to Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity 24/7 would not help him understand the new America. Too bad JOE

4 - Lastly, he used the Joe Biden comment regarding ” Obama will be tested within the next 6 months if he wins”…but America realized whoever wins will probably be tested, the issue here is who do you trust in a crisis: Mccain will react erratically like Bush (lets go to war, let’s bomb somebody), the way he reacted when the economic crisis started, the way he manages his campaign (every hour, what can we try next). His response: He has been tested and his proof: He was at a cockpit of a plane heading to Cuba…that is operation level Mr McCain not DECISION level. America is more confident with Obama+Biden who will listen to others to handle a potential crisis than McCain who is by himself (Sara can’t help).
John from MI, I know its nice to try and find a bad guy for every problem you have, and to blame McCains horrible campiagn on MSNBC.  But to say MSNBC is biased because you cant fill out a simple computer program.  The 3 electoral votes your missing are from Washington, DC. Did you forget to predict our nation's capital?
This is a story?  Maybe if Biden had said McLame or McSame or McShame or McBush but surely we have more important things to talk about.


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