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McCain v. Obama: Compare & contrast

Posted: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 9:31 AM by Domenico Montanaro

The Washington Post notes that Obama’s and McCain’s speeches yesterday differed in tone and substance. Obama “began offering voters here and in Canton, Ohio, a ‘closing argument’ that sounded much like the opening argument he made when he began his campaign nearly two years ago. It was an expansive, lofty call that emphasized economic revival, played down partisan politics and conjured up an image of election results that could ‘change the world.’”

“Sen. John McCain, campaigning in Ohio, made clear he would appeal to pocketbook concerns and depend on a tried-and-tested tactic of portraying his Democratic rival as a tax-and-spend liberal. He touted his experience and urged voters to look past Obama's speechmaking skills.”

Speaking of contrasts, the McCain campaign has a new TV ad that compares the two candidates.

The script: “Your choice... For higher taxes ... for workin' Joe's.
Spread your income ... keep what's yours.
A trillion in new spending ... freeze spending, eliminate waste.
Pain for small business ... economic growth.
Risky ... proven.
For a stronger America, McCain.”

The New York Times looks at yesterday’s back-and-forth over taxes. “Mr. Obama castigated Mr. McCain, the Republican nominee, for ‘embracing the same old Bush-McCain policies that have failed us for the last eight years’ and for wanting to ‘give more to billionaires and big corporations and hope that prosperity trickles down to everyone else.’ Mr. McCain offered the other side of that historic divide, accusing Mr. Obama of wanting to take money from those who have it and give it to those who do not. Mr. McCain seized on a radio interview Mr. Obama gave seven years ago to reinforce the argument that Mr. Obama wants to ‘spread the wealth,’ as the Democrat put it on the campaign trail recently.”

“Mr. McCain read aloud part of the radio interview in Dayton, Ohio, in a speech to supporters, who booed the notion of ‘redistributive change,’ as Mr. Obama put it. ‘That’s what change means for the Obama administration — the Redistributor,’ Mr. McCain said. ‘It means taking your money and giving it to someone else. He believes in redistributing wealth, not in policies that grow our economy and create jobs.’”

But the Washington Post’s fact-checker argues that McCain is taking that radio interview out of context. “On closer inspection, the "bombshell audio" turns out to be a rather wonkish, somewhat impenetrable, discussion of the Supreme Court under Earl Warren. Obama, then a University of Chicago law professor and Illinois state senator, argued that the courts have traditionally been reluctant to get involved in income distribution questions. He suggested that the civil rights movement had made a mistake in expecting too much from the courts -- and that such issues were better decided by the legislative branch of government.”

More: “The McCain camp is wrong to suggest that the Illinois senator advocated an ‘wealth redistribution’ role for the Supreme Court in his 2001 interview.”

Irony alert. "The fact that the campaigns are running misleading ads is not surprising. The fact that Obama is wildly outspending McCain going down the stretch is much more likely to be remembered once the campaign is over," the Boston Globe's Canellos writes. "And the questions will be: Did Obama's lavish campaign end, once and for all, the idea of federal spending limits? And did the spending limits help to take down their prime author, McCain? It seems likely that most of Washington will see it that way. Some Republicans are privately grumbling that McCain helped create a system of campaign finance rules that hurt the GOP, and that he's now getting his just deserts by having to watch Obama saturate the airwaves in the final weeks of their bitterly fought presidential campaign."

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tried-and-tested tactic of portraying his Democratic rival as a tax-and-spend liberal.
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At first glance, I thought that it said "TIRED and tested"... because that's what it is.  Tired.

http://thepajamapundit.com/
There has not been a clearer contrast between two candidates in a very long time. This election has never been more about change and the same, the past and the future. It really is time to stand up for America and make progress once again!

Check out the latest posts:
http://lastofourkind.blogspot.com
Obama can cite the themes he began with 21 months ago, because he hasn't changed course very much over those 21 months.

With all the erratic twists and turns we've seen McCain take, can anyone even remember his rationale for beginning the race for the nomination in early 2007?
Yep Obama's closing speech had style and substance while McNasty's lacked both.  All McNasty has left is fear and smear and it's not going to work this time.  The voters are tired of the same old dirty tricks campaign and they're going to vote Obama into office in just 7 days.

So when will McNasty reject and denounce the mentally disturbed Ashley Todd and her sick dirty campaign trick?  When will he reject and denounce the two Neo-Nazi skinheads who wanted to murder Obama?  Telling that he has taken so long to do the proper thing.

Go Obama/Biden 08/12!
McCain and Palin take shrill to a new level.

McCain keeps hoping the voters will forget the economy and vote based on culture. But hate and division have been with us too long.

Meanwhile Bush remains in hiding.
the McCain camp forgot a few contrasts.

honesty and integrity... saying whatever lies come to mind in order to get elected.
hope ... fear and smear politics
change ... more Bush

hmmm.  wonder why they left those out...
I wonder if McCain just doesn't understand that progressive tax rates and some entitlement programs redistribute wealth?

We've had progressive tax rates for 90 years. The wealthy pay a higher percentage. That redistributes wealth.

We've also got numerous programs - many of which were started under Republican administrations - which are designed to help those who need the help. That help, needless to say, is paid for by those who don't need the help.

So the question is whether McCain understands this - we can only hope he isn't so lost as to not understand it. And if he does understand it, then we have to conclude that he's a shameless liar for opening this line of attack on Obama.
The selection of a president of the US should be more than a discussion of how much money one pays in taxes.  The President has a place among the leaders of the world, the President's decisions affect people all around the world.  Taxes are, frankly, a wonkish issue  We will always be paying them in some form and the difference of 3% in a tax rate above $250,000 is hardly the most important factor to consider in this race.  It is not reassuring either that his economic advisers are people like Meg Whitman and Mitt Romney -- people who were successful with one business, but who don't demonstrate an understanding of overall economic factors and policy.  Are there no knowledgeable economists willing to be seen with Sen. McCain at this time?
<<"But the Washington Post's fact-checker argues that McCain is taking that radio interview out of context.">>

McCain:  "I wish they'd stop fact-checking everything that comes out of my mouth!  Those guys are KILLING US!"
150 million in donations in one month..Obama spending it like there is no tomorrow. You liberals attacking RNC and Palin for $150,000???. Obama and DNC spending approx 2 MILLION dollars for a rally in Chicago. Insisting it has to be outside. 2 freakin million dollars...Somehow I'm sure Obama will have his buddy Daley pay for part of it which means he will spread the debt and I WILL have to pay for it.....
McCain rhetoric-money money money----exclusivness

Obama-Unity must happen, for a healthy economic growth, foreign relationships and trust needs to be reagained-we have isolated ourselves from other countries-going with McCain many other countries see this as a repeat of Bush-  


REMEMBER TO VOTE-IF YOU HAVE MAIL IN BALLOTS PLEASE SEND THEM IN ASAP-WE NEED ALL THE VOTES FOR OBAMA

I VOTED EARLY TO OBAMA/BIDEN

McCain rhetoric-money money money----exclusivness

Obama-Unity must happen, for a healthy economic growth, foreign relationships and trust needs to be regained-we have isolated ourselves from other countries-going with McCain many other countries see this as a repeat of Bush-  


REMEMBER TO VOTE-IF YOU HAVE MAIL IN BALLOTS PLEASE SEND THEM IN ASAP-WE NEED ALL THE VOTES FOR OBAMA

I VOTED EARLY TO OBAMA/BIDEN

McCain is just finding new words to say the same ol thing! But in all, he still isn't saying what he will do that is better than what Obama is saying he will do. McCain fails to realize that only rich folks are scared of the higher taxes on them and they make only a samll percentage of people in the states. The regular folks, the middle and low class folks need a break and more money in our pockets. That's why its Obama all the way to the white house!
I suggest someone at FIXXNOISE get a copy of the transcript from 2001 because they are on a roll with non-stop nonsense about how Obama wants to use all three branches of government to redistribute wealth based on that interview. Experts who have assessed the "entire" transcript know that the conversation dealt in part with reparations and Obama's opposition to that as a solution redress slavery. FIXXNOISE will never tell the whole story!

The right-wing pundits are going to spend this entire week trying to marry Barack Obama to every leftist radical and position that ever came down the pike. They are working overtime trying to destroy this man. It is not going to happen. Not this time.  All of the dirt has been overturned in Hawaii, Indonesia, Chicago, New York City, and Cambridge Massachusetts and still he rises! Do they really think this guy is Jeffrey Dahmer????

Nothing short of dead bodies is going to sink this campaign.
comparison- no problem
McCain=Bush- no difference in policy, you cant hide that.
Obama= Jobs, an additional 3% tax on the well off making over 250,000 for family  200,000 for single payer. I feel fine about that redistribution. judgement that would not have us in Iraq to the tune of 10 billion a month. A real plan for energy and the jobs that go with. Change- it does scare some people, but we got to go there if we plan on being a leader in this world economy, its all we have as the republicans w/ Clintons help has sent our jobs overseas, have left us dependant on china and saudia arabia and so forth.
Really people no comparison
Obama/Biden
marty
There was an article yesterday about the Hispanic vote.  It's sad to say in 2008 that a McCain/Palin ticket offers nothing for minorities.  Whether African American, Hispanic, Asian, Indian the ticket just doesn't get that America is a diverse, multicultural country.  I truly hope all minorities will carefully consider their candidate based on competency and how they will unite this country.  McCain has said absolutely nothing, no repudiation, nothing about the Ashley Todd hoax to help ease race relations in this country (she lied that an African American male beat her up).  His silence in supporting Palin in her claims of pro-America and devicive rhetoric is also astounding.  The handful of minorities at his and Palin's rallies is also astounding.  A McCain administration will set minorities back years.

If McCain repudiates Stevens for his wrongdoing, wonder when he will do the same for his gal pal Palin?

Vote early, if you can.  VOTE.  Competence.  Character.  Change.  

Obama/Biden '08
The problem with McCain is that most of his campaign speeches and ads have taken something Obama said or taken one of his votes out of context. Once that is understood by the voter, McCain himself loses credibility. Once lost, credibility is hard to regain.
I don't understand this whole 8 years of the same thing that keeps coming up...the economy was going in the right direction right up until 2006 when the Democrats took control of the Senate and House...those same Democrats promised change, just like Obama has been promising....Call me a fool but the only change i've seen is the economy tanking, available credit is tanking, etc... seems to me Democrats aren't keeping their promises? ?

but hey, whatever right?? Obama's the messiah....doesn't surprise me I live in Chicago..i'm use to the Democratic Machine raising taxes, cutting security budgets, and all that good stuff...I mean look at Chicago's murder rates, Daley's cutting budgets, police manpower and we have the highest murder rate in the country...can't wait til those same policies take over the White House!! Nice Job!
Thirty years of the tried and false message.The old tax and spend liberals,the fear and distort records,the accuse with no plan of your own.The pandering,the lies,, the race card,the digging up the past,the anti-American stuff,the gun control crap,the lining the pockets of the rich at the expense of the middle class,those days are coming to the end,we are not afraid,we will take this country in a new direction,with or without you.
Now there's a surprise.....the GOP took something Obama said out of context and made a deceptive ad out of it. Apparently with only a week to go, THEY STILL DON"T GET IT! American isn't buying it this year. Even Bush's lame attempt to invade Syria to "scare us" into thinking John McCain can handle foreign affairs better isn't taking hold. Pleeze. Get Bush/Cheney out of there before they do something else stupid. Is THAT even possible? Isn't it obvious that McFossil isn't up to running the country.....he's not even running his campaign. What a loser; someone who wants to be known as a "maverick", can't even handle his own VP pick in Sarah Palin and has to call her a "diva" 1 week before they lose this election. AND then they will point the finger at it being Palin's fault that they lost, when it was McCain's choice to put her on the ticket when he really didn't want to.......SOME maverick; didn't buck the GOP at the right time in your career, Senator....that's not being a maverick, that's being a puppet! It's heart warming to watch the entire GOP implode, isn't it? Couldn't happen to a better group of hypocrits!   Obama/Biden '08/'12!
More lies from McAngry! Nothing new. Can someone tell him that no one believes him anymore.
Ain't it funny how the Republicans keep using snipits of things that, when you actually hear or read what was said, comes back to bite them on the butt?
The comparison is really quite simple. McCain offers doom and gloom, more of the same faild policies where Obama offers a positive message of hope for the future. Just listen to what they say and how they say it. One talks about the future and how he will lead us in making things better while the other simply continues to cut down his opponent offering nothing better than what we already have.
>>>“Mr. McCain read aloud part of the radio interview in Dayton, Ohio, in a speech to supporters, who booed the notion of ‘redistributive change,’ as Mr. Obama put it. ‘That’s what change means for the Obama administration — the Redistributor,’ Mr. McCain said. ‘It means taking your money and giving it to someone else. He believes in redistributing wealth, not in policies that grow our economy and create jobs.’”

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It is not by accident that McCain is distorting Obama's intentions.  What McCain is actually doing is a back-door way of bringing up fears of "reparations" by using the coded language of "Joe the Plumber" and the word "Socialisim".  This distortion of Obama's radio interview (which I've heard and makes no mention of the word "wealth") is yet another way of playing on the racial fears of his 'no-information' base of supporters.  While it will not likely work on the general populace (most younger voters need to look up the word "socialism" to know what it means), it has already led some to take drastic action.  Note Friday's hoax of a McCain campaign worker faking an attack from an Obama supporter, and yesterday's news of a White-Supremecist plot to kill Obama.  This is what the McCain/Palin campaign of divisiveness and fear has brought out.

Olbermann's Commentary last night:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27406602/


Obama/Biden '08!
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No comparison.  A fake personna can only get you so far Johnnie.

Anyone still undecided....read the Make Believe Maverick in Rolling Stone.
Hummmmm The Bomber taking something out of context,same old Grand OLD party,same OLD crap.Been old,stayed old,will die old.Good by to the all white silver hair crowd.
I for one would like to see lobbying outlawed. Ending completely the days when you can purchase legislation by giving to a politicians campaign. In February all television signals go digital and the government will give anyone who requests one, a voucher to get a converter box. Why not create a television channel that airs nothing but political infomercials provided to these politicians for campain purposes. This would be the only venue that they would be allowed by law to advertise on. All time would be equally dispensed. There would be no buying of an election by outspending your opponent. If we end the lobbyist reign in Washington we will return to a government “for the people”. This would need to be forced upon Washington. They would never adopt it themselves. The people are going to have to rise up and say “ENOUGH”. Your days in the cookie jar are over.
Not one word in the media about the 2003 tape showing Obama and Ayers praising PLO supporters and toasting Edward Said’s successor.  But the press doesn’t think it’s quite as newsworthy as Sarah Palin’s wardrobe.
McCain is the epitome of a disorganized candidate.  His answer to everything is to 'freeze frame' until he has time to figure out what is going on.  "Suspend Campaign" four days after crisis is public.  "Freeze on government spending" as a way to balance the budget.  Erratic doesn't begin to cover the wild careening that his campaign has taken.  Proof positive that judgment is greater than experience.

Tom Osborne and Scott Walterman (POTUS-XM) were asking why this race is close yesterday morning.  I don't believe it is a ‘race’ factor - across the board (may be a component in some places).  I think it is close because the Independents are afraid to 'bet' on inexperience.  It is true that Reagan, Bush I, Clinton and "W" have all been tested.  All but Bush I had NO national experience.  It all comes down to judgment.  Reagan and "W" overly relied on their advisors/peers and ended up in political ditches.  Clinton surrounded himself by smart people and let them do their jobs.  None of it was 'perfect'; but MOST Americans would have to agree, fiscally they were much better off under Clinton.

The Reagan era brought us junk bonds and Michael Milken and outrageous interest rates.  Where "W" era brought us subprime mortgage backed securities and massive deregulation plus an unnecessary war (Iraq).

I just think the choice here, when you look at the candidates and their behavior (and you stop listening to the fear mongering, 'whisper' campaign), Obama has shown a very CLEAR ability to react timely and appropriately to any situation.  McCain is still trying to figure some of the complicated stuff out - after 26 years in Congress.  But people vote their guts, and so they are afraid.  Afraid of what they don't know and willing to let others decide for them.  My husband is convinced that the true undecideds are not all low information; but more followers.  They are watching the polls and are potentially willing to trust the masses more than themselves.

At this stage in the game, I hope so.  I don't think I can survive another four years of Cowboy politics and Rovian Divisiveness.  I want a leader I can trust and believe in and for me; with all I've seen that person is Barack Obama!
I wish people WOULD compare the policies of McCain and Obama. If they did they would see that there is NO comparison. McCain is a GOPer from the beginning; only looking out for the wealthy, where Obama's plans are to help the middle class. WHY would you vote against your best interest in this election? You must not be voting on the policies.....hmmmm, what else could it be?                Obama/Biden '08/'12!
It sounds like "Insane McCain" is manipulating his message again, and not thinking correctly on his feet. The "Insane McCain-"Dizzy Diva" economic facts concerning Obama are again wrong. Read the true story America! Obama never suggested, nor believes that the Supreme Court should be redistributing wealth of any kind.  That is just fact! McCain needs to comprehend, and understand what he is reading outloud to others. The more he speaks without solid research the more foolish he looks.
The thesis of Obama's "revealing" radio interview was simple; how can you NOT be disappointed that the civil rights movement produced changes in law but not so much in terms of economic advancement.  It was thought that equal rights under the law would result in equal economic opportunity, in reality racism is a little more slippery than that.  I see nothing threatening, in fact that disappointment probably helps explain the hardened attitudes of some of the elder statesmen of the civil rights movement.
Based on the last 8 years Bush/McCain haven't had a problem taking taxes from the middle class and working poor and "redistributing" it to the wealthy and big corporations. To McCain/Palin government welfare for the wealthy and powerful is a good thing but when Obama offers 95% of Americans and small businesses a tax break it's socialism.
McCain/Palin taking from the least to give to the most.  
All is not as it seems.  The Europeans are not as inf actuated with Obama as the press likes to report.  This from today's Haaretz

"French President Nicolas Sarkozy is very critical of U.S. presidential candidate Barack Obama's positions on Iran, according to reports that have reached Israel's government.

Sarkozy has made his criticisms only in closed forums in France. But according to a senior Israeli government source, the reports reaching Israel indicate that Sarkozy views the Democratic candidate's stance on Iran as "utterly immature" and comprised of "formulations empty of all content."

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1031943.html

But don't worry.  Electing a first-term senator with less foreign policy experience that George W. Bush along with a compliant congress will all work out.  



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