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Battleground: So many polls out there...

Posted: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 9:21 AM by Mark Murray
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New LA Times/Bloomberg polls show Obama ahead among likely voters by seven in Florida (50%-43%) and by nine in Ohio (49%-40%).

New Quinnipiac polls show McCain gaining ground in Florida (Obama ahead 47%-45%, down from 49%-44%), but maintaining big leads in Ohio (51%-42%) and Pennsylvania (53%-41%).

And the AP is out with a slew of state polls. "The polling shows Obama holding solid leads in Ohio (7 percentage points), Nevada (12 points), Colorado (9) and Virginia (7), all red states won by Bush that collectively offer 47 electoral votes. Sweeping those four — or putting together the right combination of two or three — would almost certainly make Obama president."

Also: "In addition, Obama is tied with McCain in North Carolina and Florida, according to the AP-GfK polling, two vote-rich states Bush carried in 2004. Obama is throwing his time and money into the Sunshine State, which has 27 votes, part of a strategy to create many routes to victory and push toward a landslide of 300 or more electoral votes. North Carolina has 15 votes."

The Washington Post runs the maybe-the-polls-are-wrong story.

ARIZONA: There’s another Arizona poll showing a dead heat. "With less than a week until Election Day, McCain is leading his Democratic rival, Illinois Sen. Barack Obama, by 2 points, 46 to 44, down from a 7-point lead a month ago and a double-digit lead this summer, according to a poll from Arizona State University."

COLORADO: Michelle Obama's visit to GOP stronghold Colorado Springs this week emphasizes the Obama sampling of the game plan successfully employed by Colorado's Democratic Gov. Bill Ritter and Sen. Ken Salazar. "Both Democrats made a point of visiting every one of the state's 64 counties and had a basic campaign blueprint: run up the winning margins in Democratic bastions like Denver, edge out their Republican rivals in critical counties, such as Adams and Jefferson, minimize losses in GOP strongholds such as El Paso County and the Western Slope, and hold their own in Arapahoe County, as well as in rural areas."

FLORIDA: Gov. Charlie Crist extended early voting hours. "Hoping to relieve overburdened early polling sites -- while trying to entice even more voters to cast ballots before Election Day -- Gov. Charlie Crist on Tuesday ordered the state's 67 supervisors of elections to extend hours at the polls," the Miami Herald reports.

INDIANA: Obama leads 48%-47% (within the four-point margin of error) in a South Bend Tribune/WSBT-TV poll out yesterday.

NEVADA: Today's update from Jon Ralston's must-read flash report: "The numbers in Washoe County continue to amaze: It's 51-33, Democrats, in early voting - 48-36 when mail ballots are added. A 12-percentage point lead in Washoe County? Add the Washoe and Clark numbers together and here's what you have: D - 52 percent, R-32 percent, Others-16 percent. Unless "Others" is having a love affair with John McCain, kiss Nevada goodbye, GOP."

NEW HAMPSHIRE: "Less than a week before Election Day, polls show McCain struggling -- even here, in the state that first fell in love with him nearly a decade ago and twice rescued his presidential ambitions from oblivion," the Boston Globe writes. "Exasperated and fearing a Democratic landslide, Republicans across the country have lashed out at McCain's campaign as too timid or too erratic. In New Hampshire, there is some discontent, too. A top campaign official publicly objected when the national campaign made phone calls attacking Democrat Barack Obama in the state, and former governor and longtime McCain supporter Walter Peterson said he fears the campaign's top brass has alienated too many New Hampshire independents by catering to social conservatives."

Obama holds a 54%-39% in New Hampshire, a Boston Globe/University of New Hampshire poll finds. "Financial distress has clearly driven voters from McCain to Obama, who was trailing his Republican rival by 2 percentage points in September -- a 17-point swing in just one month. Nearly half of those surveyed cited the economy and jobs as their top concerns, and they overwhelmingly saw Obama as the candidate best equipped to address them." Though, we've seen those New Hampshire polls before...
 
Meanwhile, the McCain campaign says the Republican nominee will visit the Granite State at least one more time in the next five days.

NORTH CAROLINA: Who's toxic now? The Atlantic’s Ambinder noticed the conspicuous absence from McCain's recent rally of a Republican senator who's fighting for her political life.

PENNSYLVANIA: Read the press clippings today and you'd think the numbers in the Keystone State have closed dramatically. But have they? The Boston Globe: "It is the one reliably ‘blue’ state where McCain, the Republican nominee, believes he has a shot, as he looks to compensate for the unknown number of  ‘red’ states that may slip from his grasp. Obama's advisers point out that almost every public poll over the last month shows Obama with a double-digit lead; if that holds, it would give the Illinois senator a far larger margin of victory than Al Gore or Senator John F. Kerry had in Pennsylvania in the last two elections.”

“Still, Obama's repeated visits here - he held rallies in Chester, outside Philadelphia, yesterday, and in Pittsburgh the night before - suggest that his campaign is worried enough about the state, which he lost handily in the primary to Senator Hillary Clinton, to maintain a major presence this close to Election Day."

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I'm holding my breath.

Polling has been wrong before (I'm looking at you New Hampshire), so I'm going to continue watch the race closely.  I'm not taking anything for granted.

http://thepajamapundit.com/
Only one poll matters, and that's next Tuesdays. Liberals are getting a little nervous lately. They are even smart enough to realize that places like the NY Times, CBS, CNN, NBC, etc., are putting phony stories out to prop up Obama, and are also putting phony polls out to do the same.
Polls are very hard to read. Do we account for the Bradley Effect? How about the youth? Our latest post talks more about skepticism. It's not crazy to still have doubts about an Obama victory. IF there is anything America has taught the voters is that an election can be stolen, and we must take no poll for granted!

Feel free to comment:
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Voter suppression tactics are my main concern here.  Already hearing about absentee poll workers just not showing up, or people waiting 8 hours because voting machines are "down", or voting verification machines are not working, or poll workers show up but no one has the keys to unlock the computers...and this is all happening in predominately democratic and african american districts! I smell a republican conspiracy here to suppress the Obama vote!  
The polls could indeed be wrong, but there's little justification to regurgitate McCain propaganda in the guise of news.
Ahead in Indiana!!!

Ahead in NV by TWELVE!?!?!

And only down by 2 in ARIZONA!!?!?!

If everyone gets to the polls and casts their vote, then this thing is going to be a landslide for Obama. And Sarah Palin can take her ignorant ass back to AK.
McCain's only option is to try to neutralize the economy as an issue by distorting both his and Obama's records on the economy and taxes. But Americans are not as stupid as McCain thinks.
Folks, note that if one reviews the data on http://RealClearPolitics.com, several things stand out.
 1) The Obama strategy of enlarging the battlefield as worked very well with Barack leadiing in almost all the battleground state polls.
 2) The only battleground state that is still in flux with the polliing lead small and flipping back and forth between the two candidates.
 3) The RCP electoral map has shown consistent "drift" toward Obama. Currently @ 311 with today's addition of NV into his column.

So, while it is certainly not over, all the indicators look promising. :)

VOTE early if you can!
Obama-Biden '08
Pajama, if you are "holding your breath" you may be interested in our latest post...

http://lastofourkind.blogspot.com
the "spread the wealth around," (by the way exactly what the good ol' gop's gwb admin. did but from the middle class to the wealthy - IF YOU CAN'T HAVE A FLAT TAX WHY HAVE A PROGRESSIVE TAX IN REVERSE) has now been tied to their old, reliable fear tactics. gosh darn, take money from hard working, responsible white voters and give to shiftless, lazy non-working, non-taxpaying blacks and browns and native americans? one would think a "tax-cut" would strong suggest a cut to those who by definition are working and paying taxes - duh!another case of "fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me! sure, i'll give mccain four more years of the same and this time hope for a different result than more unemployment, more foreclosures, more collapses, more wealth not trickling down - NOT!
The Obama Campaign is brillantly making mccain think they are worried about P.A.  they're draining  all his resources by playingy in Pennsylvania and all the while  not focusing on Missouri, Colorado, Florida, and Virginia.Excellent strategy.
"NY Times, CBS, CNN, NBC, etc., are putting phony stories out to prop up Obama, and are also putting phony polls out to do the same."

Phony stories and phony polls?  Are you nuts???  

Someone call Olvier Stone, I think there is a conspircay afoot!!  :-)
Just like on 2000 and 2004, all these polling organizations will have egg on their face after the farce they've put on for this election. This election is going to be close. Real close. With McCain winning in a cliff hanger.
cry baby cry  CRY BABY CRY YOU DEM HATE AMERICA LOSE AGAIN WITH THE WORST CANDIDATE EVER YOU REALLY THOUHT A FRIEND OF TERROSIST, HATE PREACHERS PLO TERROSISTS, WIFE THAT HATES AMERICA COULD WIN OVER A WAR HERO AND OUR BELOVED SARAH
McCain's gotta be crapping his pants right about now.

Or at least more than he usually does.
Please exercise your right to vote!

VOTE OBAMA/BIDEN NOW IF YOU CAN or on 4 NOV!!!

A RABID REPUBLICAN, VIETNAM-ERA VET, FAT, OLD, PREJUDICED, WHITE GUY NOW FOR OBAMA/BIDEN
The polls keep showing that McNasty is not closing the gap and with 6 days left there's just not enough time for him to do so.  I am so enjoying the polls in the battleground states that show a landslide coming up Tuesday.

Go Obama/Biden 08/12!
To: Not So Close.  Yes, we libs are nervous.  We do fear the REMOTE possibility of another four years of Bush policies.  I can also understand your own nervousness at the prospect of Obama as Pres.  I have my own, probably dissimilar concerns, but I prefer to give us all a better chance at a fresh start.  I hope it works out for both of our sakes.  Go Phillies.
Talking you down, Rachel:

The Bradley Effect is an urban myth. It was an excuse blaming the voters for the campaign's poor get out the vote effort. New Hampshire turned on a dime (and some tears) the polling was right, but some voters were moved to Clinton in the last 24 hours. Of course, Obama didn't actually lose New Hampshire since he won as many delegates there as did Hillary.

Obama's decision to fund the campaign with millions of small contributions instead of taxpayer money was more important to this conclusion than McCain's decision to pick Palin. The poor old grouch is outnumbered everywhere and getting grouchier.

Six Days!

I'm a Democrat voting for McCain.  I can't vote for Obama.  His qualifications are razor thin-foreign affairs, legislative experience, and commander-in-chief-no thanks. He is not ready.  One day he may be, but not today.

Let's vote with our heads, be pratical.
>>>“Still, Obama's repeated visits here - he held rallies in Chester, outside Philadelphia, yesterday, and in Pittsburgh the night before - suggest that his campaign is worried enough about the state, which he lost handily in the primary to Senator Hillary Clinton, to maintain a major presence this close to Election Day."

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Very smart move on Obama's part, as it shows that he's not taking the state for granted, nor is he putting much stock in poll numbers.  Neither should we.  Remember, the only poll that really counts is the one taken on November 4th (and for the record, IT IS NOVEMBER 4TH.  DON'T LET ANYONE TELL YOU OTHERWISE.).  Make sure you get out and vote, and get your family, friends, neighbors, co-workers, etc. to vote.  If anyone needs a ride to the polls, offer one.  If you need a ride, ask for one.  Don't let anything or anyone stop you.  The Republicans will not give up power easily and will do all they can to suppress the vote and question the results.  They can't stop all of us.  If we vote in great enough numbers and pull in a wide enough margin of victory in each state, there's no way they can question the results.  GO VOTE ON NOV. 4TH.

Obama/Biden '08!
http://jawillie.blog.com
Only one poll matters, and that's next Tuesdays. Liberals are getting a little nervous lately. They are even smart enough to realize that places like the NY Times, CBS, CNN, NBC, etc., are putting phony stories out to prop up Obama, and are also putting phony polls out to do the same.

Not Even Close
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Get real!
People are not going to waste their time by putting up phony polls, unless its fixed noise and the right wing radio, who have been "making news" up for as long as they've been on the air.  you are correct that the only poll that matters is on Nov 4th, but i don't see much discrepancy between the polls and turnout in the primaries, so i don't expect to see a big shift on Nov 4th.

It may not be over before 10 pm, but i'm sure hoping for it to be... (if VA and NC go Obama, or FL flips blue, McCain is done)
Pennsylvania will go Obama.  In fact, every day McCain is there is a day lost somewhere else.  

As you know, as a Hoosier, I try to report what's happening here.  I was wrong about Obama beating Hillary,  Hillary won by a mere 20,000 votes.  But I do believe Indiana will go Obama by a slim margin. McCain took Indiana for granted, sending wing-nut Sarah.  Obama has been here several times invigorating the base.  The ground troops are working the phones and knocking on doors. The surprise in Indiana will be the FARMERS. They usually vote GOP, and Obama will get a more favorable split.
These polls just amaze me.  In all my years of voting I have never been polled nor do I even know anyone that has been polled. If I was, I would tell you that it terrifies me how many people are looking to Mr Obama to be their savior.  What's kind of chaos is going to follow when they discover that he can't possibly meet their expectations... ?  I feel sick that our people have yet to learn that society can only be progressive when people learn to love God first, each other second, and themselves last And to accompany it with hard work, honesty & integrity rather than entitlements, resentment,& racism. God help us because no one else possibly can.
Tied in ARIZONA the bomber home turf!!!!!!!!!OUCH
Inside the margin of error in Arizona? Didn't see that coming.

My guess is Obama won't get over the top in Indiana, North Carolina, Missouri or Florida. I think he will in Virginia, Colorado, New Mexico and Nevada. Iowa isn't even a battleground state here. New Hampshire, either.

I have truly no idea how Ohio is going. But if the above paragraph holds, Obama doesn't need Ohio nor Pennsylavania.  
McCain supporters like to blame anyone but their candidate for the bad news in the polls.  It's a conspiracy, it's the media, it's Obama's donors,  it's the elites.... It's just got to be the fault of someone besides John McCain, Sarah Palin, or the party they represent.

Go on believing there will be a surge for McCain on Tuesday.  You'll find yourself having a very somber victory party.
The very simple message is this America. Get out early, and vote! "Remember New Hampshire!" Polls do not mean a thing. It is what, we the people, do as our God given right to do, and that is VOTE!
US ARMY retired....Col., Ranger, Infantry.....two things from McCain that cinched my vote for Obama; Sarah Palin, Colin Powell. I served two tours as an enlisted man in RVN prior to my commision, then Panama, Haiti,Somalia, Gulf I, Iraqi Freedom and Afghanistan and am sick and tired of McCain trotting out his POW story as though it qualifies him to be Commander in Chief in any way--was his service honorable? Certainly. Did he show courage? Absolutely. But he didnt finish his mission, only flew 23 missions in Vietnam (remember they didnt have an air force, only Sams and a few planes around Hanoi).When McCain says he "knows how to win a war" I wonder which one he's talking about.Give me Obama, h has the judgement and intellect to put our best military and civilian minds in place to craft a overarching strategy for foreign policy that isnt based on "shoot em up" and bomb-bomb-bomb Iran. Our troops have performed brilliantly despite a ridiculously pathetic President who has no sense of war and no idea what harm he is doing to our standing in the world.He has been a great recruiter for the Taliban and Al Queda and McCain with his bravado and brinksmanship would be no better.
Early thanksgiving barbecue on Tuesday, November 4th.  We'll be rooting for Obama here in Plano, TX!  YEAH!!!
Time for the Make Believe Maverick to take a hike.

We'll be glad to see you go.

Come on Missouri it's time for a new direction.
Nothing the republican promised has been delivered. Vote Barack Obama and Joe Biden.
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TODAYS POLL NUMBERS —- “NOVEMBER SURPRISE IN STORE FOR OBAMA”

RASMUSSEN Tight: Obama Lead Down to 3 Points…
Accuracy Of Polls a Question In Itself…
TRICK OR TREAT: GALLUP SAYS OBAMA +2

ALL POLLS INDICATE THAT OBAMA’S LEAD IS DROPPING, DROPPING, DROPPING ….

>> POLLSTERS HAVE SERIOUSLY UNDERESTIMATED MCCAIN SUPPORTERS’ TURNOUT!

A MCCAIN WIN IS NOT THE ‘BRADLEY EFFECT’ —- IT WILL BE THE “MCCAIN EFFECT”
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Obama is a socialist with a "me me me" attitude.


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