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Lame prospects for a lame duck session?

Posted: Friday, November 07, 2008 11:15 AM by Mark Murray
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From NBC's Mike Viqueira
The notion that the House of Representatives is going to come back in this year for a lame duck session to enact a second stimulus or to send yet more money Detroit's way has always been a dubious proposition.

And it remains so this morning.

The votes in the Senate are simply not there in what remains of the 110th Congress, with its 49 Republican seats. Even if they were, the current president is not supportive of what the Democrats want to do. If that's the case, then what's the point of calling the House back in?

It's not likely to happen, Pelosi comments in today's Wall Street Journal notwithstanding. Her premise on this topic has always been predicated on IF the Senate and White House will go along.

It's simply not likely that lame-duck Republicans on their way out the door are suddenly going to turn around and change their votes on items like and expansion of food stamps and unemployment benefits. It could be argued that the results of Tuesday's election make it an even longer shot, as we can expect a conservative retrenchment on fiscal restraint.

The new year with a new administration and new Congress, that's when tax cuts and renewable energy tax credits are likely to be moved, along with the infrastructure spending, food stamps, unemployment insurance, etc., that Dems have been clamoring for since early in the year.

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Are you really saying that the Grand Old Party would make millions of Americans suffer just because their feelings are hurt?

I'm pretty cynical, but I don't believe that for one minute. The Congress will act, because the American people are hurting and it is the right thing to do.

Simple as that.

P.S. *hugs donna*

So good to hear from you!

Glad your dad is doing better . . . being able to come here everyday and hear the sound wisdom and good humor of you and so many other posters is probably the only thing that kept me sane over these months . . . thanks for sending your good energy into cyberspace - I needed it! :)
Sounds to me like Bush just wants to close his eyes and wake up January 20, 2009.
Why is it that the so called "conservatives" are now going to block all spending? Where were they during the huge budget bloating that was taking place during Bush's term?
They are now being hypoctitical at the expense of the American people.
It's now, more than ever that we need some form of stimulus package. And I'm not talking sending a check to every taxpayer - we need to rebuild our infrastructure, get moving on renewable energy sources, and retool our auto industry - If the republicans block any of this legislature, then they deserve to be ejected come 2010.
The same old politics are no longer useful, and we need to MOVE FORWARD!
Why is it that every time a republican administration comes into power, our economy ends up in the tank? And it takes a democrat to get us out of the mess that the repubs make?
You all need to THINK about where we are TODAY and WHY WE ARE HERE - AND DON'T GIVE ME THAT CRAP THAT THIS IS THE DEMS FAULT - I'm tired of hearing the same old excuses from the right.
How about setting your partisanship aside and getting something done for a change that benefits the middle class and not those who are in the upper 5%!
This nations needs to unite for the betterment of ALL our people.
I think what the Democratic congress wants is 1 of 2 things: The republicans to open teh door to bipartisanship during this lame-duck period of congress, which would allow unprescedented action & cooperation during Bush's 8 year term, or, should they deny that by voting down or the veto pen, make it clear that they are the cause for the past 8 years of gridlock symbolically via these attempted bills, and then show the massive contrast with all of the things that will actually get done in swift manner with the 111th Congress, and President Obama. Man, I love saying that still. President. Obama.
Still the same...Republicans claim to love America with their flag waving bumper sticker faux patriotism...but they seem to hate actual Americans when it comes to helping out...

Billions for Jews and Iraqis but not one cent for Americans
I hope that the lame duck session of Congress passes Pelosi's plan for helping the poor.  We need to pass that extension of unemployment insurance payments as around 775,000 people are in danger of dropping off that list soon and if they do with such a poor job market then watch how ugly the economy gets as they become homeless.

Toi the clueless repugnant ones posting that the stock market fell sharply because Obama got elected you obviously are the most misleading minds of the 21st Century BC!  It fell because the economic reports are getting really ugly and the truth of the damage caused by you economic morons is still spreading.

Oh yeah look at how your clueless economic policies have lost us another 240,000 jobs last month and another 175,000 more for revised numbers of the previous two months.  Tinkle Down economics do not work fools and we're seeing the legacy of Raygunz come to haunt us now.

Yes We Did!
The GOP/RNC, and Bush-Cheney are not going to change at all. That is fact! The Republican "Culture of Corruption" will continue on. They will only support economic/tax policies that coordinate with their "agenda of greedy aggression." Their agenda is as follows. Spread the wealth around to only the top 5% of the richest Americans. Continue to push for more economic deregulations. Stride for more cuts in Medicare, and other health benfits. Hold to huge tax loop holes for large corporations that send American jobs to other countries. The "do it yourselfer" lame ducks and their "lame duck" President. Just do not care! Why should they do anything? When they know there is nothing in it economically/politically for them. Now the "emotionally unstable" GOP/RNC will go into their passive aggressive role. They are now going to really show their immaturity, immorality, and nasty unethical side. America unfortunately we are stuck until next year. The only thing the GOP/RNC is going to do this Christmas. Is put more coal into our stockings. I wonder what they are going to put in theirs??
Yes, they would rather see the American people suffer just because their feeling are hurt. They would rather do that than stand up and be a man. It has always been about themselves instead of the American people.
NASHVILLE FAN.....YOU ARE WAY TOO-OO NAIVE, IF YOU THINK THE G.O.P. HAVE THE AMERICAN VOTERS ON THEIR AGENDA.
It would not suprise me one bit if republicans stall on a 2nd stimulus for middle class americans, they have never cared about us and now that they are on the way out they don't have anything to gain from helping anyone. We'll just have to wait and hope the economy can make it until next year.


Republicans suck.
They loot the treasury and our children's future income and then say they can't afford to help people in need. Ronald Reagan's minions were honest about wanting to bankrupt the government so they could justify eliminating social programs.
The Republicans will stay true to their roots and reward big business and religious fanatics...the rest of America can eat cake for all they care
The one thing Republicans are good at is spending other people's money.

The one thing Democrats are great at is spending other peoples money.
So the Democrats are going to increase spending and at the same time have tax cuts.  They sound like they are Republicans.
Expanded benefits and less tax revenue because of increased taxes (which slow the economy) are a receipe for disaster.
For much of the last year, Bush has been like a high schooler coasting through his senior year.  Still, keep an eye on him-- based on past experience with his administration, you never know what he may do in the eleventh hour.
So it looks like the rest of the GOP children are simply going to pick up their toys and go home.  As far as I'm concerned, that's fine.  We've managed to survive their childishness for 8 years now, we can manage for the next two months.  Between this and all of their party infighting, America will be well served once they are shown the door.

My only hope is that the Democrats don't get nearly as drunk on their own power as the Republicans have.

74 Days Until Inauguration Day!
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I went to get a loan to buy some property. Credit rating is in the 700's, I've never missed a payment. Loan denied. But people on unemployment, they get free money. The banks that gave out bad loans in past and now are in trouble, they get free money. The car makers that produce cars that no one wants, they get free money. But I can't get a loan, a loan that I will pay back. Something has really been lost in what America stands for.
Dems should hold the GOP Senators feet to the fire and make them vote "No" and show that the Republicans are no less obstructionist now than they were before.
I can imaging those Republicans who are not making to the next Congress doing one of two things: either doing something really weird and voting for anything that brings any kind of money to their district; the other side of that is that they could be obstructionists to anything that doesn't meet with all of their partisan ideals.  
I want all the republicans in office to just sit back and vote present for the next 4 years, similiar to the great O's 2 years in senate, on everything put up to vote on. Just sit back, relax and let all blame for our country's wasteful spending, idiotic cuts and all our freedom getting flushed away.

Conservatives just want to be left alone! We can make decisions on our own we can take care of our family on our own and are never looking for hand outs.
Liberals on the other hand need to be told what is OK to read, watch, eat, worship, teach ect. ect., the list never ends! By being told everything to do you never have to take responsibilty or blame for anything as a result of doing it, good or bad. You just want to know who's going to help you next time when you overspend.  
If nothing additional happens by the current federal government due to Republican resistance to provide relief to the American people amidst this current economic crisis, we can be thankful that Jan 20, 2009 is a lot closer than Inauguration Day 1933 after the financial meltdown of 1929.

Today we have hope; after 1929 hope did not arrive until 1933. We are very lucky this time around.  
28 years of Reagans "Trickle Down" economic policies have brought us to where we are now. TOTAL ECONOMIC MELTDOWN!!! It's time for Republicans to take responsibility for their failed economic,social,and foriegn policies. Work with the new administration to build a new stronger better America,and if they refuse,R.I.P GOP
Correct me if I'm wrong but hasn't the democratic party controlled the house and senate for two years, what have they done to help the economy, why are they not in session, could it be they don't care?  All americans should hold all of congress accountable, get back to work you arrogant elected officials.  Pick up the phone, type the email, let them know how you feel, Americans stand up and speak out!


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