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First thoughts: Bush's line

Posted: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 9:42 AM by Carrie Dann
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From Chuck Todd, Mark Murray, Domenico Montanaro, and Carrie Dann
*** The Bush factor: Many have attributed Obama’s win to his organization, his performance among minorities and young voters, his nearly unlimited campaign cash, and his response to the economic meltdown -- and all deservedly so. But don’t forget how big of a role Bush’s unpopularity played in this election. With the single exception of Missouri (which barely went for McCain after a delayed call from NBC News), Obama won every state where Bush’s approval rating was below 35% in the exit polls, and he lost every state where Bush’s approval rating was over 35%. The state with the highest Bush rating? Utah, at 47%, which supported McCain by a 29-point margin. The place with the lowest? Washington DC, at 8%, where McCain got just 7% of the vote. Nationally, according to the exits, Bush's approval rating stood at a stunning 27%, mirroring the all-time low hit in the late October NBC/WSJ poll. Of those nationwide who approved of Bush's handling of his job at the White House, 89% voted for McCain, while those who disapproved broke for Obama by a margin of more than 2-1. The state that mirrored the exit poll data on the approval vs. victory margin split? Virginia, where Bush's approval rating stood at 27% and where Obama won by a seven-point margin. 

Video: NBC Deputy Political Director Mark Murray offers his first read on the significance of Sarah Palin and the GOP governors meeting in Miami and John McCain's role now.

*** A new hope: The Republican Governors Association meeting kicks off today in Miami, where there will be plenty of opportunities to read the tea leaves for 2012. There's no doubt that most of the hope for the future of the GOP rests on the shoulders of many of these RGA members. On the agenda today: a luncheon at 1:15 pm ET featuring Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty; a 2:00 pm roundtable discussing the 2008 election (which includes Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal and Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour); a 4:10 pm press roundtable (with Pawlenty, former Congressman and Bush Administration official Rob Portman, and former eBay CEO Meg Whitman, who hopes to join the RGA as California governor in 2011); and a 7:30 pm reception featuring Barbour. Thursday is Palin Day at the meeting, where the Alaska governor will hold a press conference with reporters at 9:40 am and then deliver a speech afterwards. Also speaking tomorrow at a “Looking Toward the Future” panel: Pawlenty, South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford, Indiana Rep. Mike Pence, Tommy Franks, and Bill Kristol. And Thursday wraps up with a press roundtable (which includes Barbour, Sanford, Florida Gov. Charlie Crist, and Texas Gov. Rick Perry) and a state dinner (featuring remarks from Crist and Perry). There will be a lot of little sidebar stories to cover, including the budding RNC chair race as potential candidates are all making their way down to Miami this week as well.

*** Backtracking on lobbyists? Yesterday, the Obama team announced new restrictions on lobbyists for serving in the transition. Among the rules: Federal lobbyists can’t contribute money to the transition; if they’ve lobbied in the past year, they’re prohibited from working in the fields of policy where they have lobbied; and they’re prohibited from lobbying the Administration for 12 months on matters on which they have worked. Yet it seems that these rules have opened up Obama to potential criticism that he’s backtracked on an earlier promise he made during the campaign. Lobbyists, Obama once said, “will not work in my White House,” although he later revised that line to say that they will not “run my White House.” Are these new rules as strong as his language early in the campaign? No. Are these the strongest lobbyist rules for a White House transition that we've seen? Yes. But all this reflects Obama’s struggle with keeping his campaign promises while facing the reality that so many people he may want to appoint might be people who have previously lobbied.

*** The Mormon church’s power? The Atlantic’s Marc Ambinder notes that the Mormon Church “has earned some serious cred in social conservative circles” after its work in helping to pass California’s gay-marriage ban. Just askin’, but does this have repercussions for Romney in 2012? Here’s the official word from the church in an article a spokesman references: "Mormon church members undertook a perhaps unprecedented mobilization, contributing an estimated 40 percent of the individual donations made to the Yes on 8's $30 million-plus campaign. Yet the Salt Lake City church, which did not contribute to the campaign, sees its involvement in politics as unusual. ‘I don't think there's any sense in the church that this coalition has more life beyond this one issue,’ said Mike Otterson, a church spokesman. ‘We haven't created a permanent alliance of churches here. What we did here was we came together to protect traditional marriage.’” Whether intentional or not, the potential help for Romney is this: to convince evangelicals that a Mormon in the White House wouldn't somehow undermine their own religion and their own values.

*** Si, se puede: During the sunset of Hillary Clinton's primary run, her supporters warned that Obama's failure to win Latino voters in the primaries spelled potential disaster for the general election. Those prognostications turned out to be overblown as Obama won 67% of the Hispanic vote, up from Kerry’s 53% in 2004. Latino voters carved out a bigger piece of the electorate than in past years in every battleground state other than Florida, Georgia, and New Jersey. That includes jumps in relatively non-diverse states like Iowa (+2% from 2004), Montana (+3), and New Hampshire (+1). In the key Western states of Nevada and Colorado, Hispanics accounted for a 5% larger slice of the electorate than they did in 2004. In New Mexico, that number was a whopping 9%. And what about in those new swing regions where Obama mobilized coalitions of young and minority voters to flip red states into blue ones? In Virginia, Latino voters broke 2-1 for Obama and made up 5% of the electorate; in Indiana, they went 3-1 for the Democrat. In fact, this should be the single most worrisome trend for the GOP -- the spike in Latino turnout was across the country, not just in states that were already known to have large Latino populations.

*** The remaining races: Today, we might have a better sense of the outcome in the Alaska Senate race, when the state’s Elections division expects to count most of the outstanding 90,000 early, absentee ballots or questioned ballots. Ted Stevens (R) currently holds a 3,257-vote lead over Mark Begich (D)… In Georgia, it’s being reported that McCain will stump for Sen. Saxby Chambliss (R) on Thursday… And in Minnesota today, Secretary of State Mark Ritchie holds a press conference to provide additional details of the recount in the unresolved Coleman-Franken Senate race.

*** More on Minnesota: The Republicans may be struggling how to deal with rebuilding their brand, settling the Georgia Senate run-off, or dealing with the Ted Stevens situation. But the party -- both in Minnesota and nationally -- seems to have quickly settled on a strategy to deal with the Minnesota recount. The party apparatus seems to be in sync in labeling the recount and the recanvass as somehow a questionable process. Using the fact that Franken picked up so many votes during the recanvass, the GOP talking point appears to be to question the recanvass and use that to issue a cloud over the recount process. Bottom line: It appears we're quickly heading to a situation where neither side is going to believe the final result of the recount.

Countdown to Georgia Senate run-off: 20 days
Countdown to Electoral Vote Count: 57 days
Countdown to Inauguration Day 2009: 69 days

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Yeah, the Mormon church should be ashamed of themselves.  My experience with the holier than thou Mormons was when a Mormon woman moved into my mothers house when she was dying of ALS to live with my dad.  Dad said it was okay because God told them it was.

So forgive me if I detest Mormons.
I believe the biggest obstacle blocking progress in this country for at least the past few decades is the corrupt influences in Washington, particularly lobbyists and other special interest groups.  When I first decided to support Obama, the one thing that made him stand out in my mind was the fact that he vowed "lobbyists will no longer drown out the voices of the American people when I am in office".  I knew right then that a President who made his choices based on the voices and interests of regular American people and not based on lobbyists from big corporations could not go wrong.  Today, I am hearing there are "LOOPHOLES" for these lobbyists.  I don't hope, I EXPECT President Obama to identify and close these loopholes.  This is one area where we cannot budge.  To really make a difference, we have to give government back to the people... not partially back, not mostly back with a little lobbying influence... but completely back to the people.  I do not know a more avid supporter of Obama than myself... and that's why I WILL NOT be quiet about this until they are silenced!  This is one area where President Obama cannot go back on his word... nor can he say that if you look at his words closely, you'll see there were always loopholes... that is unnacceptable.  He knows exactly what message he was conveying which was that we the government cannot work for the people if it is working for corporations.  No ifs ands or buts.  The dream of regaining our sense of citizenship and doing social work and voicing ideas and opinions via the internet or community groups... that dream will die if lobbyist influence is left alive.  This is one issue where there is no compromise... there is no middle ground... its either "for the people, by the people" or its not.  If its not... the people will loose that sense that we can demand change and our country will inevitably continue on the path it was on before Obama.  Obama said "change happens because the American people demand it"... that was a complete farce if he allows lobbyist to continue their corrupt influence in Washington.  Now is our President-Elect's chance to make clear what he plans to do in this regard... this was the one area that really set him apart from everyone else in the minds of his strongest advocates and if he doesn't hold true to this principle, everything else is tarnished.  Any decision he makes will be questioned by weary supporters like me... wondering if some lobbyist was able to fulfill his company's agenda despite undermining the collective interest of the country.  

Our nations biggest problem is undeniably... apathy.  People have become apathetic because they don't believe the government really cares what they believe and they've lost trust in the governments ability to get anything done and they blame it on corruption.  Obama's campaign has neutralized alot of that cynicism with his campaign of hope which began with the message that the government does care, they do listen, and under this new administration will be rid of the most obvious corrupting influences... lobbyists, special interest groups.  That message reingnited a passion like we've never seen... I want to see that continue... but it won't unless you CLOSE THE LOBBYIST LOOPHOLES NOW!
Bad Chihuahua: '...So now the Bishops seek to hit Obama for his stance on abortion. And they will atempt to stop Biden, Kennedy and the other Catholic politicians from recieving Communion. Hey man, it's about time they stood up for the Catholic doctrines and put them in force....'

You mean like molesting altar boys and stealing from the poor ?

Those are great doctrines, aren't they ?

Why does the Catholic Church PROTECT child molesters?

Why does the church move them from diocese to diocese?

Your God, not mine
Your church, not mine

Mormons, Catholics, Holy Rollers.....

Concentrate on shrinking that camel....
and making that needle eye MUCH BIGGER !!

I'm glad to hear from other folks who don't believe that gay marriage is in any way threatening to the institution of marriage.

And based on some of the things I've read here since the election, just because we American have elected ourselves the first black president in no way means there still isn't a lot of hate and intolerance going on.

TO Dennis in Dallas -- WHO's the racist? Methinks you need to look at the man in the mirror....

TO J. Merle Stanley, Westchester, NY -- Pretty much no matter how Obama's presidency goes, I'M NEVER GONNA WISH W WAS BACK IN THE WHITEHOUSE! The past 8 years have done MORE to RUIN America than even Nixon and Watergate did (and that was a LOT).
what will repub's do without all of the lobbyist money. What will they do without lobbyist writing our laws. How will they keep thier lifestyle without the kickbacks. Come on peope without lobbyist's the repub's will not be able to introduce any new legislation, we know that thier intellect is way below average. Look who is now leading thier party. Sarah Palin. What needs to be done is some kind of simple civics, geography, history test before you are able to run to national office. We would definitely have fewer repub's as they seem to get confused when you are not talking about thier God. Let this country do all possible to keep politic's clean, dignified, and honest..Never vote republican or you can look forward to more of this mess in the future
Oh Pat, but you are so wrong!   The Republicans do indeed stand for something.  They stand for corporate wealth.  Their entire predicate is based on the preservation of corporate wealth.  Yeah, they try to hide behind the perfume of patriotism, the facade of family values and try to instill a fear of  nasty Marxism (which they have been doing since the turn of the last century), in order to get middle class people to vote against their own economic interests.  It's really a big joke to them, those 'masters of the universe' as they shift the flow of enormous amounts of capital and launch imperialist wars in order to protect their interests.

We, the middle class (and that includes everyone who must work for a living) have  (at least temporarily) taken our country back. It's up to us to help re-invigorate capitalism so that capitalism can act as an agent of  continued social mobility (when healthy - capitalism is a far fairer system than Communism or Socialism and offers much more opportunity for a greater number of people).  The robber baron mentality that started during the Reagan years, led to the stripping of regulations and caused the mayhem of today, must be vanquished.  I hope that common sense prevails and that President Obama (my eyes mist when I write 'President Obama' - I still can't believe it) is able to establish an economy that fosters reasonable growth (like during the Kennedy, Johnson and Clinton years) while restricting the very rich from becoming even more so.  The economies of scale are disasterous for the rest of us and prevent new start-ups from developing like they should (and of course the system should remain flexible, subject to continuous alterations and improvements).  

By the way do you think that Sarah Palin even thinks about the implications of the 'economies of scale' - she probably thinks that it has to do with fishing.
Obama/Biden '08
Well "Puppet Palin" is going to be "pandering" again at the RGA meeting today in Florida. The "Special Spewer" will be dishing out so much verbal robotics, and "uneducated" thoughts that it will make her a real "winner" with the GOP/RNC base. The "Dizzy Diva" is going to show the nation, again. That she is uneducated, not well read, does not comprehend information, misquotes people, speaks with poisonous sarcasism, and can speak well if properly prepped to do so. What an intellectual joke she is!!  
Dennis Dallas: if you'd taken the time to check the results you'd have seen that blacks went for Obama +7 more than Kerry, but so did a lot of other groups increase their vote for him, among them Hispanics +14, Asians +6 and whites +2, mean and women +5 each.

Obama outperformed Kerry in every significant group.
As bad as the GOP status is currently, there are only 3 reasons why McCain did not win (thank God). Those are the lousy campaign, Sarah Palin, and the extreme right-wingers that seem to be spokespersons (Limbaugh, Buchanan, Delay, Rove, Inghram).The extremists are not Republicans & will cost future elections.
" Say about Bush what you may but he still is head strong and will not compromise his principles."


HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Industry's tool won't compromise his "principles."

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!


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