I know two-year-olds who whine less than the bitter McCain supporters posting in FR these days.

See that's just it, and the liberals can't for the life of them figure it out. Bush has run the country like a liberal, spending money he doesn't have. The Republicans have strayed from the fiscal conservative message, and have gotten their butts handed to them. The job of the Republicans is not to be moderates, but to be right-wing conservatives on all fronts. Just like the Democrats running off into la-la liberal land and winning, the Republicans now are free to do the same, except by going to the right. Obama didn't win because more liberals were created, he won because conservatives stayed home. A good old Ronnie Reagan type needs to come along to straighten things out. And after 4 years of Obama, or Clinton II by the way his appointments are going (Obama sure gave up on that 'Change' theme pretty quick), the Democrats will be ripe for the pickings.

You gotta' give the guy props for even wanting to be anywhere near these steaming pile of crap.

This is random; but I am predicting Newt Gingrich will run in 2012,...
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“…Concentrate on shrinking that camel....and making that needle eye MUCH BIGGER !!”  MSierra, SF (Sent Wednesday, November 12, 2008 11:10 AM)
Can I get an “Amen, sister”?  Best post in weeks!  Angels are weeping, literally.  More crime and hate has been committed in ‘the name of G-d’ through out the world.  Hypocrisy is the greatest sin, in my opinion.
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“…is able to establish an economy that fosters reasonable growth (like during the Kennedy, Johnson and Clinton years) while restricting the very rich from becoming even more so…”  Mitchell Feldman, Vestal, NY (Sent Wednesday, November 12, 2008 11:12 AM) I was with you except for this line.  I don’t have a problem with rich people getting richer – as long as ‘fair play’ is involved.  It’s when they do it dishonestly that I object.  No bid contracts de-regulation, squelching competition – those are not true capitalistic principles of Free Trade.  What we find time and again in our economic system is that we can not trust those who ‘have’ to behave responsibly.  Greed is apparently a pretty intoxicating drug and it corrupts, absolutely.  Oh, and I think Palin thinks “economies of scale” are the number of miles she has to jog to burn off that cheesecake.
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Lisa T, Columbia MO (Sent Wednesday, November 12, 2008 11:07 AM) Welcome to Missouri – it will break your heart,…Your summation was spot on!  I, too, like Christy Todd Whitman and would love to see her hold a National Post in a moderate government.  I inaccurately predicted she would endorse Obama; but I think she is truly a moderate.  I think her book was entitled, “It’s My Party, too”.  At least it was before it was co-opted by the Neo Con zealots.
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Tori, Washington, DC (Sent Wednesday, November 12, 2008 11:24 AM)  This post seems completely delusional to me.  Palin may be a lot of things; but I am quite certain she is NOT the future of the GOP.  She was far too willing to read a teleprompter that spewed hate and falsehoods.  To be a Standard Bearer – I believe you have to actually HAVE standards.  It seems like a simple, little thing; but clearly it escapes her.  To watch her continue to whine and contrive with Matt and Greta is really ENOUGH.  To hear her say that “…these ‘anonymous’ allegations are unfair…” and that “…if these journalists would do a little bit of research, they would find out the truth…”!  Well many of us felt the same way about her!  If she hadn’t been so willing to completely LIE about Obama, maybe I wouldn’t wish her back to the rock from whence she crawled.  She has accepted no responsibility for her own ignorance, she was quick to lash out at Clinton for being a whiner and now she has nothing of importance to say; but she just can’t seem to cure her addiction for the microphone and the camera.  She will never earn my respect until she accepts with grace her own flaws, educates herself on national and international topics (I don’t mean rote memorization of facts – I mean intellectual curiosity where she formulates HER OWN opinion based on knowledge of the facts.  I will not accept Rush Limbaugh’s cliff notes du jour) and apologizes to the country for the scorched earth tactics she so eagerly employed.  To be a government leader – you have to accept a diverse constituency with a multitude of complex and varying opinions and you have to be willing to govern ALL of America, not just the counties you perceive to be the REAL America.  Okay, now that I’ve typed this, I changed my mind – her fifteen minutes are up and I will never respect her – even if she could do all of the above, I would never trust that it was because of deeply held principles; but that she were doing it to win some votes.  So there, Rachel Maddow, I talked myself down.  And I feel better, too.
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Pat, Boston:  I am back on this No John Kerry for a cabinet post.  Not because I don’t think he’d be outstanding; but because MA would really lose out on some Senior chairmanship opportunities.  Not to mention appropriation seniority.  It is too much to face losing the Lion and all of the ‘down wind’ advantages.  My husband thinks I am being unreasonable on this; but I really think that Kerry serves the people of the Commonwealth of MA – not his own agenda.  Stepping off my soap box in 3-2-1.

I can understand why someone would want to be POTUS, even with the problems we are facing.  What is a mystery to me is why anyone would want to be Chairman of the RNC. In addition to the right-wing nuts (Rush Limbaugh and Pat Buchanan) fighting the more intelligent conservatives, (George Will); there will be the moderates fighting the conservatives.  The fighting is just beginning and it is anybody's guess who will be left standing. What seems important to me is who has the PERSONAL STRENGTH, power, and intelligence to manage these forces?  Answer: No One at the present time. If Sarah Palin goes there, she will be dog meat.  The CW is that it is better to be in the fight early. But Newt Gingrich will lay in the weeds and later come out as the Conservative Candidate.

So, he wants to be the Grand Wizard of the GOP?

Now America is watching another "lost soul" want to become RNC leader. Another "Messenger of Misinformation" to lead the "special spewing" of the Really Not Competent (RNC). Now this is like watching a disfunctional family comedy.

I know two-year-olds who whine less than the bitter McCain supporters posting in FR these days

That's a joke, right?  Listen to the bitterness of the Dems.  You'd think people like Eric in Salinas would have stemmed the contempt by now and actually been happy, instead of sitting there coming up with clever names for Sarah Palin.

CT Scanne CT

Ronnie Reagan tripled the national debt !!!!!!

TRIPLED IT. We never needed the first Ronnie Reagan, let alone another one.

And Russia is still a super power ya nitwit.

I think that the Republicans and the media are overlooking one serious point where the Republicans have turned off the public, and therefore, the electorate:  Divisive, fear-mongering politics.  I think the public has rejected the usual politics of the Republicans and they don't want to hear the smears and the "we might not be safe with Democrats" crap anymore.  Even when the Dems started to panic when Obama wasn't "hitting back" on the smears that John McCain and his pet Sarah were slinging, no holds barred, Obama remained steady and focused on his message.  Americans in large part respected him for it.  Conversely, they lost respect for McCain and his campaign for the divisive and inflammatory (and untrue) rhetoric.  
I am not a Republican, and I don't care what they're going to do to "regroup" or "resurge" or whatever, but they are still missing one big point.  Americans are tired of Palin-esque attacks on people and they are tired of being manipulated with fear and thinly veiled racism.  If the Republicans want to change something within their party, that is their starting point.

Sounds like more of the same "culture war" rhetoric from another "culture war" soldier of the GOP.  It's going to be so much fun watching the factions claw each other to death.

In other news, for those of you who need a reminder of just how mean spirited some republicans can be (and I emphasize the word "SOME"), here are a couple of stories for you (check out the You Tube clip in the second link).

http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Your-President-is-Black.html
http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/elections/local/Bethlehem_Hates_Obama.html

Note: The clip in the second link was taken of a McCain/Palin rally in October.

Sure, they're not bitter.

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ct scanne,ct.   This country has had a real good dose of old Ronnie Reagan, We will now have 8 years of Barack Obama, and things will be better for the working man and woman and for the working poor, we will then know for sure that trickle down dont work and good honest government does. You must not realize that the republicans are face down in the dirt. Do you know how many more of us there are than you. We found out we can win when we vote, and we plan on winning from now on. And dont worry there will be change, and you wont like it but the working class will.

marty

They're going nowhere until they deal with the Christian social right. Democrats and Independents won't come back based on economics alone now. They'll hear the radical Federalist social dogma that Republicans insist upon and stay right where they are. They've clearly forgotten all about States rights.

The RNC will never make a comeback until they reject the far right wing theocratic ideology that is pushing the bible's social views into the constitution.  This is the failure of the republican brand, and there is no cause that has been more divisive over the past 30 years than the so called christian conservatives.

The corruption, hypocrisy, and dirty politics are secondary to this issue in most american's minds.  Freedom of religion is also the freedom FROM religious government (you can't inject the bible into the constitution without violating the First Amendment!)

http://horneddevil.proboards98.com/index.cgi?board=iduspolitics&action=display&thread=68

I might agree with Saul Anuzis' assertion that when the Repub party "once again adheres to [its] core values and beliefs, and can again demonstrate to America that [it] can be trusted on those issues, we will make a comeback – stronger than ever" -- if only I knew WHICH core values and beliefs he's referring to. If he's talking about the social/culture issues (much of what is included in the party platform that was just updated prior to their convention in MN), then I think he's AS WRONG AS HE COULD BE (at least in terms of getting any kind of a majority).

In any case, the next head of the RNC will have a BIG JOB ahead of them: first, getting consensus on what the core values & beliefs ARE; and second, communicating/selling those to the country. Lots of luck!

I don't know anything about the man but if he is
totally religious right, supporter of sleeze campaigns and refuses, like his co-horts, to take
and admit responibility for his parties almost
destruction of America. then it will be politics
as usual.
The republicans have to understand that they must do
a complete turnaround in order to get our respect
back.
AND, they must work with the Democrats to get our
country back to where it once was. No more postering,
no more ego trips, no more figer pointing.
Our country is at stake.

Geez, isn't this the same clown who gave us DeVos as a gubernatorial candidate and Hoogendyk as a senatorial candidate?  Maybe he did the best he could with what he had.  Those that can, run.  Those that can't become party chairs.  Uh, I'd like to buy a clue, Pat!

At the rate the RNC is going they will be able to do a remake of "Green Acres." There are enough characters, and story material to do 20 episodes. "Insane McCain" could play the senile farmer. "Puppet Palin" could play his bucked toothed 6th grade educated daughter. Photenhauer could run the local armory. Cheney could own the local gas station/general store. Bush could be his "evil" mechanic/stocker working for food. Karl Rove could run the local newspaper called. "The Corruptor!" Chambliss could play the delivery boy working part- time for "The Corrupter!" Now this would be one very funny show America!

CT Scanne, it's not just about one issue.  As much as Republicans try, it's never about just one issue.  Bush did more than spend, he got us into an unjust war, tortured, violated the Constitution, weakened environmental standards, etc.  If you/the GOP think it's just about spending, then things are going to be better for us/Dems for a long while.

The republican party fell into the same trap that the democratic party fell into-a fractured message dictated by the groups on the fringes.  

The democrats have only recently begun to understand that candidates have to represent their districts' views in order to be elected-witness the election of several 'dixiecrats' in recent elections.

Unfortunately, the election of a far left liberal from Illinois will spoil the fun.  When Obama begins to implement his agenda, those blue congressional districts will turn red again, and control of congress will shift parties as it did when Clinton was president.

The GOP needs to get back to a core message, while allowing more moderate representatives of the party run in states that demand more 'liberal' candidates; however, the principals of the party-smaller government, lower taxes, strong national defense, respect for individual rights-must not be abandoned.  They can add energy independance to that list, as it is a national security issue.  Let the Democrats keep the NIMBY's; they are nothing more than a small and highly vocal minority.

Having power for too long has a deleterious effect on political parties-ANY party.  The republican party is in a position to right the ship, and move forward in two years, provided they learn from their mistakes.

I am a Democrat.  But if the republicans ever want another chance to control America they need to realize that taxes build roads, pay for schools, pay for all those nice government pensions, WARS, etc.  They need to suggest something other than tax cuts because those of us with real brains know that if you spend tax dollars on infrastructure the returns usually come back to the economy 7 fold.  Money spent on wars might as well be flushed down the toilet.  They also need to tone down the social issues and start to realize most people dont really care who other people spend their lives with nor do we want the government deciding personal choices.  Butt out.  If you really are pro-life, remove the death penalty, help the poor, STOP BEING WARMONGERS dont just settle on the abortion issue, that is none of your business.  if there is a God, he will make sure those who use abortion are punished in the next life.  

The Republicans just don't get it...narrow minded southern and midwest idiots may still go for the gay bashing, free spending, flag waving, litmus testing reprehensibles but the rest of America took a look and vomited...

Whatever.....

Let em' fight it out, but personally, I hope they "stick with Palin"..... or get stuck with Palin.... is more like it! Seems the Republicans can't get more "middle" if their life depended on it! And it does!

Keep up the good work!

Yes Bush did not run the country conservatively but that does not mean he ran it on liberal principles by a long shot. Under the Bush administration the country was run by a bunch of wild-eyed radicals who put power, theology and their pet theories above country, tradition, constitution, principle and people.  The political spectrum is not a line but a circle whereby if you go to past conservative and liberal you end up in the same whack-job territory inhabited by the Hitler's, Ayatollahs, Stalin's and Bush's of the world. The majority of people are on the opposite end and are pragmatic not political and are most concerned with peace, stability and prosperity in their lives.

Any interested and qualified person should go for it.  A good RNC chairman is good for the country, so let's get the "discussion" rolling!

Having someone from Michigan would be nice as the special interests there are already looking to collect on election 2008 promises from the Democrats.  

Let me offer a little free advice to the RNC: do some freaking focus groups and find out what the voters have to say. We keep being told how the RNC plans to rebuild the Party but without listening to why the voters in previously red states went blue there will be no recapturing of the national vote. My family in Indiana went Obama for the first time since Carter. The post election comment I heard the most was how angry voters were for being dismissed as anti American for voting for Obama. Questioning the patriotism of the candidates meant the patriotism of the supporters was also in question. So in Indiana at least, the GOP might want to start with a humble apology.

Bitter in PA (clinging to my gun, too) - To the victor go the spoils, you whiny brat!

To the spoiled goes the victory!!

The GOP should just turn it in already...and just go away. Not angry. Just "go away"...that is if you can find a host nation who'd want your sorry arses!!!

Why is it that the McCain supporters that write on these Blogs sound like spoiled little children that didn't get their way.  Bush ran this country into the ground.  McCain and Palin would have done zero for the middle class.  They never talked about the middle class because they had no ground work for the middle class.  I will take Obama and Clinton over them.  Clinton was a good President that left this country in good shape until Bush got to it so stop knocking Clinton.  I don't hear you saying what he did wrong, just that he was wrong.  The Republican reign is over, get over it already.  Don't knock Obama until he has been in office for a couple of years ok.  It will take him at least 4 years to get us out of the mess that Bush has put us in.

In future episodes of "GOP/Green Acres." There are many other characters that join the show. Fred Thompson could play the town lawyer with an drinking problem. Mike Huckabee could play the towns Kung Fu instructor. The locals are a little nervous of Huckabee, because of his all the Chuck Norris posters he has all over his house. Anuzis could play the local doctor, with his loyal assistant Katon Dawson. The characters, and episodes could go on forever in disturbed world of the. "Really Not Competent" (RNC).

Kim, Portland. I agree with you completely. It seems that all those from the GOP who could frame rational and thoughtful comments have dissapeared (Maybe they voted Obama). It seems all we are left with, are those filled with hate and spite. Those who would villify President-Elect Obama and all those who disagree with their opinion, because they are to stubborn to accept the results and too buried in their pride to admit they put their money on the wrong horse.

After 8 years of Bush's ideologically based foreign and domestic policies and failed economic theories, I hope the RNC flounders around for at least the next 100 years trying to figure out where they went so wrong and how they can fix their party.

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