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Pending races & Senate History 101

Posted: Thursday, November 13, 2008 12:59 PM by Carrie Dann
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From NBC's Ken Strickland
If the contested elections of the Minnesota, Alaska, and Georgia Senate races aren't resolved before the new Congress convenes in January, the Senate has the power to seat someone to the position until the matter is resolved. It's been done several times in Senate history, most recently as 1997 with Senator Mary Landrieu.

Article 1, Section 5 of the US Constitution states, "Each House shall be the Judge of the Elections, Returns, and Qualifications of it's own Members..."

How does it actually happen? The Senate Historian's Office explains it this way:

"...a petition has been presented to the Senate or a resolution offered by a senator contesting the election of a candidate (in some cases a year or more after the election in question). The contest may relate to the actual conduct of the election (vote count, electoral irregularities, etc.) or electoral misconduct by candidate or supporters. Most, but not all, of these cases were referred to a committee for review."

There has only been one case in Senate history when the chamber actually reversed the final election results. That was in 1926 in a race between Daniel Steck and Smith Brookhart in Iowa.

"Brookhart was initially seated but was later unseated by the Senate and Steck seated in his place," the Senate Historian's Office writes. "This is the only occasion to date in which the Senate has actually reversed the results of an election, unseated a senator, and seated the challenger."

The responsibility of making such a judgment would likely fall the Senate Rules Committee, if warranted.

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Wow FR is on a real roll this morning posting so many articles and comments.  I sure hope that the senate seats Begich, Martin and Franken so that we reach the magic 60 number and we finally won't have to listen to the clueless whiners fillibustering.

One thing is for certain we can never allow the Wicked Witch into the Senate because could you imagine that buffoon wasting so many hours talking in the well of the Senate trying to pull off a fillibuster?  Talk about talking in tongues, she certainly has problems speaking in English with coherent thoughts that don't contradict themselves every few seconds.
The laws that run the Senate are very interesting, and always end with a political twist to them. How the present situations pan out will put Senate procedures, rules, and policy to very expansive tests. Observing the many different political personalities, will also add more drama to the whole situation. American Democracy in action people!
If the Dems hit their 60, I'm throwing a huge party. You're all invited! Brighter days will undoubtedly be ahead! As it stands, I will pray and remain hopeful. Kick the Repugs out!
Cool, you mean Norm Coleman would have to vaminos for good?  Who gets to make this call?  hmmm,...

At this point, the best thing would be for Alaska to just go Dem.  That would take all of the other garbage literally off the table.

The runoff with Saxby could get interesting.  I would LOVE to see every single Obama organizer that flooded the swing states get down there and make a face to face contact with every single voter and turn this senate seat BLUE!
[[Wow FR is on a real roll this morning posting so many articles and comments. ]]

And almost 10% of the articles have some truth in them. They do get all their info "off the web", so you know it must be true!!! Some articles even have named sources.
Full Moon <><><> >>As it stands, I will pray and remain hopeful. Kick the Repugs out! <<


I thought all Democrats where atheists. Oh, you mean you pray to Barack. Nevermind . . .  
do you think it matters? DEMS AND REPUBs both voted to steal the peoples money and give it to their friends .Visit the ghetto and see if they notice credit tightning housing what difference to them if you save a guy who went to disneyland on home credit and is losing his house too bad wrong chocie should have lisented more in school.
I missed something what pray tell did the dems ever filibuster TELECOM TORTURE JUSTICE DEPT what where was there backbone .IN THEIR WALLET.
looks like from the post all are into palin hardly any care about the others funny huh a newbie getting so much attention over more qualified people funny huh seems like just yesterday hilliary was saying.....
Eric from Salinas, California, why do you always put forth hateful comments?  One would think you are a bigot for talking such trash all the time.  Remember the golden rule, do unto others as you would have them do unto you!
Who is the BOSS this post has nobody and still it takes forever to update what a bunch .......
I think Sen. Ted "Tubes" Stevens is mobilizing his Alaskan corruption machine to create votes for Begich. If Ted loses, he saves himself the shame of having to resign (bad) or be expelled by the Senate (worse) or being replaced by Sarah (worst).
Why did Joe Scarborough, AKA Morning Joe, said this morning that John McCain received 48% of the popular vote when it is 46%. WHY IS HE LYING TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, I know he is a rebublican, but come on!!!!!!!!!!

Joe please deliver the news the way it should be! correct, precise and non-partisan.
I have a novel idea.  Count EVERY vote.  Then live with the results.
The conservative, hypocritical, almost exclusively white camp of the republican party somehow thinks that they can someday win over the American electorate.  To still think this after this election shows just how dense they are.  Not that the democrats are "the answer." Far from it.  If the democrats don't govern from the center--if they give in to the nutcase left who are just as clueless as the extreme right-wing--they will lose power for their party ala 1992.  Negativity and extremism will no longer work in this country.
Let's remember, 60 is not magic, it's just better than 59 or fewer.  Rarely do all Democrats agree on anything.   The art of statesmanship and diplomacy is an oft ignored  quality in evaluatinf legislators.  It will be no less important to practice regardless of the majority margain.
Why not just close up shop nobody cares about this not even you guys at msnbzzzzzzzzzzz
It would be unlikely in this day and age that Senate would appoint the challenger to sit in the seat before all the results are done.  There are still a few weeks to get it done.  I do have to say that with the exception of GA, I think that the Senate would be going with the challenger if there was a say.  
Just one question --if such a motion is made, is it subject to getting 60 votes to be voted upon because of the present filibuster rule.
4 minutes of post is there no ownership of jobs at msnbzzzz maybe you need to have your staff cut back if you only work 4 minutes on a post before going off to do something. God i got a job and can still find time inbetween to comment maybe you need to hire new people who enjoy work alot of folks looking for a job right now. STEP UP and get going or shut it down.
Sarah Palin...10 pounds of dumb in a 5 pound bag..

Alright I blogged it..
These elections should be decided at the state level
Let's not introduce more partisanship into them

Georgia gets a re-vote
Minnesota gets a re-count (whether or not Coleman likes it)
Alaska gets thier votes counted after the thaw

One or two of these seats would be great

Getting rid of draft dodger/coward Saxby Chambliss, 'Priceless'

Who are the Democratic 'leaders' campaigning for Jim Martin in Georgia ?
Who are the Democrats fund raising for him ?
Who are the Democratic 'leaders' ??



Don't count on it being a cakewalk if the Dems reach 60.  There are a lot of Dem senators from Red states.
I'm a stauch Democrat but I shudder at the thought of a 60 seat majority. Any measure that cannot garner the support of at least a few moderate Republicans deserves to fail! We need practical solutions to our problems, not leftist dogma and 'pet' projects at this time of crisis.
WHY WAS BROOKHART Reversed?  from WIKI-- As Time Magazine would later write, Brookhart's "pugnacious cowhide radicalism nettled patrician Senators."[8] Two years later, in the 1924 election, he made his first attempt to win a full term. Running again as the Republican nominee, Brookhart appeared to have defeated the Democratic candidate, Daniel F. Steck, by a small margin, with Brookhart getting 447,594 votes to Steck's 446,840. Brookhart thus took office on March 4, 1925, but Steck pursued a challenge with the Senate Committee on Elections and Privileges. In the Committee hearings on Steck's challenge, the Iowa Republican Party sided with Democrat Steck. It filed a brief that was sharply critical of Brookhart, accusing him of disloyalty to the Republican presidential ticket in 1924 because of his support for Progressive Party presidential candidate Robert M. LaFollette of Wisconsin.[9]

Brookhart held this seat only until April 12, 1926 when the Senate voted by a margin of 45 to 41 to replace him with Steck, who then served out the remainder of the term. Because the Senate was then firmly in Republican control, his ouster was possible only because over a dozen Republicans voted with Democrats to unseat Brookhart.[10] On other occasions the Senate has settled election disputes before a Senator took office, but this is the only time the results were overturned after the Senator was seated.
1. Send the Clintons to Campaign in Georgia,it is one of their areas of strength. Obama is too busy to spend time campaigning there and has more important things to do.
2. Begich is now favorite to win in Alaska. All the sections (2,5,6,37,38,39,& 40)that have yet to release their absentee and early voting numbers, supported Begich 60:40 over Stevens on Nov 4th. Go to Alaska.gov Lt Govenor/Elections to see these facts.
News Flash:
      Floridah...
      Gov. Palin blames Obama for winning the election...
Remember, a lot of what is in the Constitution regarding the Senate dates back to before Senators were elected by popular vote! Prior to 1913 amd the 17th Amendment Senators were elected by their State Legislatures (although some States had democratized the process through open Party Primaries to select the nominees).
If there's only 97 Senators seated, how many are needed to make the Rules Committee appointments filibuster-proof?!?!  Would Norm Coleman's head explode if the Democrats appointed Al to his seat while they finished out the recount?  C-Span 2 will be must-see-TV in January.
There is no magic in the number 60 (Babe Ruth notwithstanding).  It is simply better than any lower number of majority.  Democrats have almost never all agreed on anything.  It will still take artful statesmanship to convince the body to act on progressive legislation.  Brute force rarely prevails for long.
"Each House shall be the Judge of the Elections, Returns, and Qualifications of it's own Members..."

I can't imagine the Constitution would have have been written by someone who can't spell!
If elections were run the way they OUGHT to be in this country, this would never have to happen. We'd be able to do a count and a couple of re-counts between election day and the end of the year, or maybe a count, a re-count, and a run-off election. Think we'll ever get there?
Banshi from Atlantic City; Boy are you ignorant just like Palin and McCain et al; I am a born again Christian, pray to God; abhor racism; not into lies; I am an African American democrat. it was apparent during the campaign people like Palin need to fall on their knees and truly repent; how do you call yourself a Christian and spew racism, hatred and prejudicethe scriptures teaches "for all have sin and come short of the glory of God" stop perpetrating and read the scriptures; be ye doers of the word and not hearers only...


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