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First thoughts: Hillary at State?

Posted: Friday, November 14, 2008 9:19 AM by Domenico Montanaro
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From Chuck Todd, Mark Murray, Domenico Montanaro, and Carrie Dann 
*** Hillary at State? As we've learned with anything regarding the Clintons, one never knows exactly how serious the speculation might be. But let's assume the news -- reported last night by NBC’s Andrea Mitchell -- that Hillary Clinton is in the mix as a potential Secretary of State is as serious as it appears. (Because if it's not, and her name is being floated only to be rejected, it's going to make her more upset. But we digress…) The best reason for Obama to be looking for a place in his cabinet for Clinton is simple: to get her out of the Senate. Just ask George W. Bush, Bill Clinton, and Jimmy Carter what it was like to have a once or future presidential rival in the Senate serving as a one-person Roman tribunal. Remember how easily the press gravitated to John McCain in '01 or Bob Kerrey in '93 or Ted Kennedy in '77 to allow them to be one-senator judge/juries on Administration proposals? The upside for Obama putting Clinton at State (or even the Pentagon) is that it gets her out of the Senate and gets her out of the domestic policy debates. Also, one other thing to keep in mind if Clinton does end up at State, she'll be off the political circuit; it’s considered unseemly to practice politics while serving in one of the big cabinet posts, especially at State or Defense. So this would mean no more Hillary on the stump for candidates, no more Hillary raising money, no more Hillary collecting chits. OK, we will now take First Read away from Machiavelli and turn it back over to the current authors.

VIDEO: Advisers say President-elect Obama is considering Hillary Clinton for secretary of state. NBC's Andrea Mitchell reports.

*** DNC debate: There’s a fascinating story in today’s L.A. Times about some hesitance by members of Team Obama to have the Democratic National Committee house the Obama political machine. Some, like Steve Hildebrand of Obama's field team, believe many of Obama's supporters will be turned off by having the DNC become the official political arm of the Obama Administration. Hildebrand thinks if Obama wants to cultivate his supporters to get them excited by various policy proposals, he should allow an independent group to be formed. But it appears Hildebrand's idea is a long shot, as the L.A. Times reports that Axelrod and Plouffe are leaning toward turning everything over to the DNC -- since they'll "own" the DNC.

*** In Da Club: As the Republicans gather all over the place to mull their future, one group wants to single out the conservative Club for Growth for hurting the party with moderates. In particular, the League of Conservation voters says it’s finding it difficult to find moderate pro-environment Republicans to support, because the Club has been so successful knocking them off in GOP primaries. But the LCV notes the Club's record in general elections is not good. Club-backed candidates -- who defeated some Republicans the LCV would have supported or have supported -- lost congressional elections last week in MD-01, MI-07, and ID-01. In addition, their New Mexico Senate candidate also lost (and lost badly). Has the Club been too pure and ended up nominating candidates that are too conservative, allowing Democrats to win in places like, well, Idaho? The Club is going to have some defending to do (particularly with its donors) about how well the conservative purity game is playing out on the trail.

VIDEO: Sarah Palin was the media draw at the Republican Governors Convention, but the GOP shied away from embracing her. NBC's Michelle Kosinski reports. 

*** If you can’t beat them, co-opt their message? Charlie Crist closed out the Republican Governors Association meeting last night with a speech that could be the kind of message that not only paves the way forward for the party, but for his own career on a national stage. He was post-partisan, stressing inclusiveness, working together, and above all getting things done. It was a polished, practiced speech about expanding majorities, instead of being pigeonholed to the base. Frankly, there seemed to be a lot of Obama in it…

*** T. Boone does “Meet”: On Sunday, Meet the Press has an exclusive interview with T. Boone Pickens -- the Texas oilman, energy-independence advocate, and Oklahoma State football patron -- as well as a roundtable with Tom Friedman and Tavis Smiley. Pickens also appeared on Morning Joe this morning…

*** Rockin' the suburbs: In 2004, many exit pollsters pointed to George W. Bush's five-point lift over John Kerry in the nation's suburbs as one of the keys to the Republican's victory. In this past election, however, Obama flipped that Democratic deficit in the 'burbs to a two point advantage. But how much did it help him state-by-state? Obama won EVERY state in which he got more than 50% of the suburban vote. In two traditionally red states -- Indiana and North Carolina -- Obama lost the suburbs, but he improved on Kerry's suburban performance by double digits to pull off narrow wins in those states. In fact, Obama outperformed Kerry in the suburbs in every battleground state except for Missouri. As Charlie Cook writes today in his newest column, “When Democrats win the suburbs, Republicans are in trouble.”

*** Take me home, country roads: It's safe to say that, at the beginning of the presidential race, pundits were not trumpeting predictions that a black man named "Barack Hussein Obama" -- who even claimed that small-town voters were bitter, clinging to their religion and guns -- would do better than John Kerry in rural areas. Nationally, however, Obama outperformed Kerry in rural areas -- by just three points. But get this: His performance versus Kerry in low-population regions shot up in a few states like Pennsylvania (+5), South Carolina (+9), and Texas (+5), where extended primaries (and their accompanying far-flung field offices) certainly couldn't have hurt the campaign's efforts to turn out rural voters. And Obama did very well with rural voters in another handful of states: Colorado (+14), Virginia (+9), New Hampshire (+5), Missouri (+7), and New Mexico (+8). What do those have in common? They were battlegrounds where Obama had offices throughout each state.

*** Remaining races: Not many new developments out there. In Alaska, Mark Begich (D) remains in the lead over Ted Stevens (R), with more absentee and early ballots to be counted next week… In Georgia, 2,000 turned out to see McCain campaign for Saxby Chambliss (R), while the Democratic Senatorial Committee is up with a brand-new TV ad hitting the GOP incumbent… And in Minnesota, there’s an excellent piece reminding us that the changing vote-count total in the Coleman-Franken race isn’t that unusual. “The night that Sen. Norm Coleman defeated former Vice President Walter Mondale in the 2002 U.S. Senate race he piled up more than 1,062,000 votes. But when all the ballots were certified two weeks later, Coleman had 54,000 more votes. It's TRUE. Between election night voting numbers, and two weeks later when the State Canvassing Board certified official results, Coleman gained 54,429 votes. Mondale's vote total also went up 63,192 votes, but not enough to beat Coleman. It's what happens in Minnesota elections. We just don't pay attention when the race isn't close.” 

VIDEO: All eyes are on Alaska, Georgia and Minnesota as contests continue. NBC's Lee Cowan reports.

Countdown to Georgia Senate run-off: 18 days
Countdown to Electoral Vote Count: 55 days
Countdown to Inauguration Day 2009: 67 days

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The great thing about HILL as Secretary of State is the real, practical use of the term "work together" to solve the country's problems. And Christ.. are there a lot of them!! I like the idea of getting the best people possible to fill positions. I would also add that Gov. Richardson should get something prominent in this cabinet. This guy has a proven track record and helped deliver the key Latino vote for Obama. Unless he wants to explain in four years why Richardson got snubbed, I say give him something like Education or Energy. And lastly... while in a perfect world a person like John McCain would have a spot in this cabinet as Head of Veterans Affairs. Mr. Country First, I love the Vets, NO ONE cares more about the Vets, etc... , should be given a chance to finally put his actions where his mouth is. But John McCain is NOT the John McCain of 2000, and that's the real shame. I LIKED that guy. But if we're to move forward as a country... we need the BEST people in the KEY positions, regardless of who they are or what party they represent.
Being the comsumate politician he is, President-elect Obama would like nothing more that to neuter Hillary Clinton by getting her out of the Senate.  During the primary debates, he grudgingly agreed with her on nearly all of the policy positions she presented, his own being fairly weak especially in health care and energy.  He doesn't want someone in the Senate pushing better policies that he developed.  I case anyone wonders, I did vote for Senator Obama.
The Hill & Bill show continues. Beam me up Scotty - there is no intelligent life here!
instead of Club for Growth we should take a non-violent approach such as I Heart for Growth  ;)
Hillary is head and shoulders above either Kerry or Richardson.  As candidates,Kerry muddled whatever message he intended, while Richardson's message seemed to begin with his resume.  Hillary would be great. Now, could the First Read staff stop the petty politicking and concentrate on the idea of governing.    
HILLARY CLINTON FOR SECRETARY OF STATE ?

WILL SOMEONE PLEASE CHECK HER EXPIRATION DATE.

UNSCREW HER HEAD AND YOU WILL SEE THE CONTENTS ARE SPOILED.

THE WOMAN IS ABRASIVE AND SHE CAN'T TELL FACT FROM FICTION.

DOES AN EMBELLISHER AND A KNOWN LIAR DESERVE ANYTHING ?
I really think that she is qualified to run the State Department, however her true skills are much more geared for the Senate. The GOP in the Senate are going to be a real political challenge to deal with. Hillary has the skills, and "political brass knuckles" to help keep the GOP in line. The GOP is having a "nervous breakdown" over getting politically killed in this election. I have never read about so many GOP "temper tantrums" in my whole life! What a joke!
What is going to happen to the US?  Hillary as SOS is just the start of our downfall and further deterioration in our position in the world.  Look on the bright side--maybe she can go into most of those countries under fire like she lied about during the primaries!! Maybe Obama will have her do all that negotiation with our enemies that he preached during the campaign!  Look out US, now the Dems want to remove long term experienced republicans from the few influencial spots they have on committees and the American (fools)voting public gave them the power to do it.
Republicans need to just sit back, relax, and watch the train wreck aka the Obama Administration.
Choo Choo Charlie (Sent Friday, November 14, 2008 9:40 AM)

Kinda like the last eight years with Bush at the helm.
Question name one thing that the republican leadership has gotten right in the last ten years?
So how would having an entrenched Washington-ite like Clinton as Secretary of State be change again? Clinton may have been a much better president than Bush, but he was not the model to follow, and Mrs. was there every step of the way. And I still remember her so-called campaign, with its ridiculous lies and mudslinging. I think Obama would be sending a horrid message giving her anything with as much power as State. It may be no drama Obama, but Hillary is all about drama.
Bill Richardson would be an excellent choice for
Secretary of State.  He has the moxy and the savvy
for the job with experience as UN Ambassador to boot.
Senator Hillary Clinton is a better woman than the "Pitbull with Lipstick". Ms. Clinton is  intelligent, better educated, and can speak English using coherent sentences.

The "Pitbull" is an embarassment to Alaska. It is dangerous when religion and government are not separate. S.P. has no business preaching from the political stage and to propose that the U.S. Constitition be amended according to her religious beliefs.

As an Alaska Native and a woman, I definitely do not support S.P just because she is female. I fervently hope the U.S. does not support her for any political endeavors in the future. Up here in Alaska, we get many "End-of-Roaders" who do not accurately represent us, the original residents of the state. It is true that the pipeline imported many from Oklahoma and Texas who changed the political and religious climate of our state. We also, unfortunately, get stuck with people like S.P. who cause us division in-state and are inaccurate portrayal of our people. Thank god I am an indigenous woman who does not have extreme religious convictions to rationalize bigotry and intolerance.
T. Boone is right, he's always been right on the next best thing in energy and the next best investment.  It makes sense to utilize wind power, especially in Oklahoma 'where the wind comes sweeping down the plain' BUT - one good Oklahoma tornado and an entire field of wind towers could disappear in an instant, costing millions to replace - and what do we do for power in the meantime? What's the back-up plan before we flip the switch and turn it all over to mother nature?
I have a couple of thoughts on Hillary.
First..stay in senate, Sen. Kennedy will need a replacement for the causes he champions.
Second...Supreme Court Justice..she'd be a thoughtful, intelligent justice.



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